Leaders TalkX: Moral pixels: painting an ethical landscape in the information society

Leaders TalkX: Moral pixels: painting an ethical landscape in the information society

Session at a glance

Summary

The discussion centered on ethical considerations and human rights in the digital age, particularly focusing on artificial intelligence and emerging technologies as part of the WSIS Action Line framework. The session featured ministers and experts from Belgium, Libya, Cuba, Kenya, Poland, and other countries sharing their national approaches to digital ethics and AI governance. Belgium’s Minister Vanessa Matz emphasized the importance of digital inclusion and accessibility, highlighting their AI ecosystem that brings together public and private actors to ensure ethical AI deployment with transparent governance. Libya’s Minister Abdul Baset Albaour cautioned against delegating ethical decision-making to machines, noting that while humans make decisions based on emotion, experience, and wisdom, AI relies solely on algorithms and data, making it unreliable for ethical choices.


Cuba’s representative outlined their comprehensive approach to digital citizenship education through 642 technology centers that have trained over 5 million people, emphasizing ethical, safe, and innovative use of digital technologies. Kenya’s Stephen Isaboke discussed the balance between protecting freedom of expression and access to information while preventing hate speech and misinformation, particularly among youth using platforms like TikTok and X. Poland’s Jacek Oko proposed using AI as an educational tool to teach people about AI risks, advocating for AI-powered personalized learning assistants to help vulnerable populations understand digital literacy and identify manipulated content.


Professor Salma Abbasi identified six key ethical concerns including misinformation proliferation, algorithmic bias, privacy surveillance, behavioral manipulation, declining critical thinking, and loss of cultural nuances in AI systems. She recommended transparency in AI design, robust human oversight, and accountability frameworks with consequences for failures. The panelists collectively emphasized that addressing AI ethics requires international cooperation, investment in education, transparent governance frameworks, and ensuring that technology serves humanity while respecting cultural values and human dignity.


Keypoints

**Major Discussion Points:**


– **Balancing AI ethics with innovation and rights**: Multiple speakers addressed the challenge of ensuring ethical AI development while maintaining freedom of expression, access to information, and innovation capacity. Kenya’s representative specifically discussed the “creative tension” between media freedom and ethical regulation.


– **Human-centered AI development and decision-making**: Libya’s minister emphasized that humans and machines make decisions differently – humans use emotion, experience, and wisdom while AI relies on algorithms and data. The consensus was that ethical decision-making should not be fully delegated to machines.


– **Education and digital literacy as fundamental safeguards**: Several speakers highlighted education as crucial for ethical AI use. Cuba outlined their extensive technology training programs, while Poland advocated for using AI itself as a tool to educate people about AI risks and benefits.


– **Misinformation, disinformation, and algorithmic bias**: Professor Abbasi provided a comprehensive analysis of six key risks including the proliferation of deepfakes, persistent discrimination through algorithmic bias, privacy concerns, behavioral manipulation, and the decline of critical thinking skills.


– **Need for transparency, accountability, and regulatory frameworks**: All speakers emphasized the importance of transparent AI systems, human oversight, and robust regulatory frameworks. There was particular concern for protecting vulnerable populations including children, elderly, and those with disabilities.


**Overall Purpose:**


The discussion aimed to explore how to apply ethics and human rights principles to emerging technologies, particularly artificial intelligence, within the context of building an inclusive information society. This was part of a WSIS Action Line session focused on painting an “ethical landscape” for the digital age.


**Overall Tone:**


The tone was professional and collaborative throughout, with speakers sharing practical experiences and solutions rather than engaging in debate. While there was underlying concern about AI risks and challenges, the discussion maintained a constructive and forward-looking approach. The tone remained consistently diplomatic and solution-oriented, with speakers building upon each other’s points and emphasizing the need for international cooperation and shared responsibility in addressing these challenges.


Speakers

– **Participant**: Role/Title: Not specified, Area of expertise: Not specified


– **Anriette Esterhuysen**: Role/Title: High-level track facilitator/Moderator, Area of expertise: Digital rights and governance (described as “veteran of this space”), From: South Africa


– **Vanessa Matz**: Role/Title: Minister of Digital Transformation, Area of expertise: Digital transformation and ethics in information society, From: Belgium


– **Abdulbaset Albaour**: Role/Title: Minister for General Authority for Communication and Information Technology, Area of expertise: AI and machine decision-making, From: Libya


– **Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez**: Role/Title: First Vice Minister, Ministry of Communications, Area of expertise: Digital transformation and AI ethics education, From: Republic of Cuba


– **Stephen Isaboke**: Role/Title: Principal Secretary from the Ministry of Information, Communication and the Digital Economy, State Department for Broadcasting and Telecommunications, Area of expertise: Information access rights and media freedom balance, From: Kenya


– **Jacek Oko**: Role/Title: President of the Office of Electronic Communications, Area of expertise: AI regulation and digital education, From: Poland


– **Salma Abbasi**: Role/Title: Founder, Chairperson and CEO of the EU Worldwide Group, Area of expertise: AI ethics, digital rights, and child protection (described as “veteran of this space”), From: Not specified


**Additional speakers:**


None identified beyond the provided speakers names list.


Full session report

# Discussion Report: Ethics and Human Rights in the Digital Age


## Executive Summary


This discussion, part of the “Leaders’ Talks, Moral Pixels – Painting an Ethical Landscape in the Information Society” session on day three of the WSIS framework meetings, was facilitated by Anriette Esterhuysen. The session brought together ministers and digital governance experts from Belgium, Libya, Cuba, Kenya, and Poland to examine ethical considerations and human rights implications in the digital age, with particular focus on artificial intelligence and emerging technologies.


The conversation revealed shared priorities around education, human oversight, and transparency in AI governance, while highlighting different national approaches to implementation and regulation.


## Key Participants and Their Contributions


### Belgium – Minister Vanessa Maerts


Minister Maerts outlined Belgium’s systematic approach to digital transformation, emphasizing that digital services must be accessible to all without exception. Belgium has established requirements that for each digital service, non-digital alternatives must be provided for vulnerable groups. The country has created an AI ecosystem bringing together public and private actors to provide ethical and legal advice on AI deployment, alongside launching an observatory for AI and digital technologies to reinforce transparency and facilitate citizen dialogue. Maerts stressed that digital technology must be at the service of humans by being safe, ethical, and inclusive.


### Libya – Minister Abdul Baset Abul


Minister Abul provided a cautionary perspective on AI decision-making, drawing a distinction between human and machine processes. He argued that humans make decisions based on emotion, experience, and wisdom, while AI relies on algorithms and data. He emphasized that AI decisions are irreversible unlike human decisions, stating: “That’s in my opinion, we cannot trust the machine to take decision.”


### Cuba – First Vice Minister Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez


Speaking in Spanish with translation, Minister Rodriguez Hernandez presented Cuba’s comprehensive digital education infrastructure through 642 technology centers that have trained over 5 million people, mostly young people. Cuba has graduated 17,000 engineers and created a university in 2022. The country has approved a digital transformation policy, digital agenda, and AI development strategy under an ethical framework, with digital technology topics taught with an ethical, safe, and innovative approach in universities.


### Kenya – Principal Secretary Stephen Mortari Saboke


Principal Secretary Saboke discussed the balance between rights and regulation, introducing the concept of “creative tension” between competing rights. He emphasized that governments must balance freedom of expression and access to information with ethical regulation, noting concerns about platforms like TikTok and X, as well as cybercrime issues. He argued that “we don’t have to abandon rights in order to respect rights.”


### Poland – President Jacek Oko, Office of Electronic Communications


President Oko advocated for using AI as an educational tool to teach people about AI risks and benefits. He proposed that AI could serve as a personalized learning assistant, particularly for people with special needs and intellectual disabilities. He referenced the EU Digital Services Act and its oversight capabilities, stating: “Let us not be afraid of AI. On the contrary, let us use it as a powerful tool in this educational mission.” He emphasized cooperation with non-governmental organizations and educators.


### Professor Salma Abbasi


Professor Abbasi provided a detailed analysis of AI-related risks, identifying six key ethical concerns in her framework: misinformation proliferation through deepfakes, algorithmic bias reinforcing discrimination, privacy and surveillance concerns, behavioral manipulation particularly affecting children, declining critical thinking abilities, and loss of cultural nuances in AI systems. She called for robust regulatory frameworks and highlighted the need for inclusive approaches, particularly for Global South countries rapidly adopting AI.


## Areas of Consensus


### Education and Capacity Building


All speakers emphasized education as fundamental for ethical AI governance. Cuba’s extensive technology center network, Poland’s advocacy for AI-powered educational tools, and other participants’ focus on human capacity building demonstrated broad agreement on educational approaches.


### Human Oversight


Multiple speakers, particularly Libya’s minister and Professor Abbasi, stressed the importance of maintaining human control and oversight in AI systems, emphasizing that machines should not make decisions independently.


### Transparency Requirements


Belgium’s observatory approach, Poland’s reference to EU oversight capabilities, and Professor Abbasi’s call for auditable algorithms reflected shared views on the need for transparent AI systems and public dialogue.


## Different Approaches


### Trust in AI Systems


A notable difference emerged between Libya’s skepticism about trusting machines for decision-making and Poland’s more optimistic stance about embracing AI as a tool, particularly for education.


### Regulatory Frameworks


Speakers presented different approaches to oversight, with some emphasizing governmental frameworks while others, like Poland’s representative, advocated for greater cooperation with non-governmental organizations and educational institutions.


## Key Challenges Identified


The discussion highlighted several ongoing challenges:


– Ensuring AI systems respect cultural contexts and local values


– Developing appropriate regulatory frameworks for rapidly evolving technology


– Balancing innovation with protection, particularly for vulnerable populations


– Addressing the digital divide and ensuring Global South participation in AI governance


– Protecting children from potential negative effects while leveraging educational benefits


## Technical Context


The session experienced some technical difficulties with computer and microphone issues, as noted by the moderator. Presentations from Belgium and Cuba included translation from French and Spanish respectively. A speaker from the Philippines was expected but did not appear.


## Conclusion


The discussion demonstrated broad international agreement on fundamental principles of AI ethics, particularly around education, human oversight, and transparency. While implementation approaches varied based on national contexts and priorities, participants showed commitment to ensuring that digital technologies serve human needs while respecting rights and cultural values. The conversation reflected growing international dialogue on AI governance, with emphasis on inclusive development and the need for continued cooperation between nations at different stages of digital transformation.


Session transcript

Participant: Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to start our session very soon. Dear participants, we would like to welcome you to our next Leaders’ Talks, Moral Pixels – Painting an Ethical Landscape in the Information Society. We would like to invite to the stage Ms. Anriette Estenhauer, who is going to be our high-level track facilitator.


Anriette Esterhuysen: Good afternoon, everyone who is with us. virtually and in the room. I know things are a little bit, it’s day three and things are becoming a little bit chaotic. We have ministerial meetings, but we want to start on time as close as possible because there’s another session after us. So, I’ll introduce myself. I think, have I been introduced? My name is Anriette Esterhuysen, I’m from South Africa and I’ll be moderating this session. So, we have a very distinguished panel. This session is going to look at the WSIS Action Line that deals with ethics and human rights and particularly in how we apply ethics and human rights to emerging technologies such as artificial intelligence. So, I’m going to invite the panellists to come. I think next to me I have, well, let me introduce them in order of speaking. Our first speaker, and they can all come if they are here, is Her Excellency Minister Maats from Belgium. Is she with us yet? Not yet. She’ll be joining us, so let’s move on to who’s next. We also have, sorry, this is difficult to manipulate the mic and the keyboard at the same time. From Libya, next to me, we have His Excellency Mr. Abdul Baset Abul, Minister for General Authority for Communication and Information Technology, and he’ll be our second speaker. And after him, we’ll have from Cuba, His Excellency Mr. Ernesto Rodríguez Hernández, First Vice Minister, Ministry of Communications from the Republic of Cuba. He’ll be our third speaker. Thanks very much to all of you ministers for rushing downstairs. After Cuba, we’re going to have already here, and thanks for being the first one to walk to the stage, Stephen Mortari Saboke, Principal Secretary from the Ministry of Information, Communication and the Digital Economy, State Department for Broadcasting and Telecommunications. From the Philippines, is Miss Ella Blanca López with us? Not yet. Thanks for that, Levi. From Poland, I know he’s here, I’ve just spoken to him, Mr. Jacek Orko, President of the Office of Electronic Communications from Poland. And after that, we have, last but definitely not least, Professor Selma Abassi. She’s the founder and chairperson and CEO of the EU Worldwide Group, and like me, she’s a veteran of this space. So, we will probably be joint, so don’t feel that there’s disruption. If you see other dignitaries going to the top of the stage. I’m trying to get to the top of my screen. Escaped, thank you. Just, do we have, oh, has she arrived? Perfect. Is that Miss López or Miss Lanz? Thanks very much. I’ll introduce you when I give you the floor. So, to start us, I’m going to go to our first speaker, which is Her Excellency, the Minister from Belgium. I need to get rid of this. I’m so sorry about this. Could you hold this for me, please? Thanks, Minister. So, from Belgium, Her Excellency is Vanessa Maerts. She’s the Minister from the Ministry of Digital Transformation. And the question that we have for her is, how is Belgium dealing with this challenge of applying ethics, dealing with digital transformation and building an inclusive information society, particularly with the challenges related to artificial intelligence? And you’ll be responding in French, is that right? So, please, everyone, keep your headphones on or look at the transcript. And Minister, you have three minutes and the time is in front of you. Please, go ahead.


Vanessa Matz: Merci. Thank you very much. So, ladies and gentlemen, the question of ethics in the information society is a fundamental priority that I have carried. It’s one of the mandates I have within the Belgium federal government. It’s a topic we’re all dealing with at national and international level. Ethics is not just principle. It incarnates also the accessibility and the inclusion. It is absolutely imperative that the digital services be accessible to all men and women without exception. This includes vulnerable groups for whom in Belgium we will always want to ensure alternatives, non-digital alternatives at each digital online service. This is our way to guarantee a true equality of access. I also give a strong importance to the improvement of digital public services. Initiatives like training of public agents in first line and the accompanying of the citizens and promotion of digital inclusion are one of the concrete examples. Ethics to guide the development of our technology. Let’s take the artificial intelligence. In Belgium, we have created an ecosystem AI for Belgium that brings together public and private actors of the sector. These ecosystems offer advice on ethical aspects and legal aspects of AI, ensuring that the deployment respects the norms and regulations, all the while ensuring a transparent governance. Transparency is fundamental, particularly regarding algorithms used in the public services, which is why we have launched an observatory of artificial intelligence and of the new digital technologies in order to reinforce this transparency and facilitate the dialogue between citizens and the users. We also need to take particular attention for youth who are particularly vulnerable to the ethical issues linked to digitization. Digital technology needs to be at the service of humans by being safe, ethical and inclusive for all. Digital technology cannot just be blown back from the sky, it needs to be the fruit of a constant dialogue and active cooperation between all competent authorities and at all levels. facilitate cooperation. The summit is a unique opportunity to reinforce this international cooperation and to ensure that digitization benefits everyone in the respect of ethical principles that guide our actions. Thank you very much.


Anriette Esterhuysen: You came to time absolutely perfectly. I was nervous for no reason. And Mr. Albaour, Your Excellency, the question we are asking you is could we or should we be delegating our ethical decision-making to machines? Are we doing it? And if that is happening, who should determine the framework, the rights and moral framework that guides


Abdulbaset Albaour: these systems? Good afternoon. Thank you for this question. As you know, now in these days, the most topics have been taken in AI. Before answering your question, I want to explain how the machine or how the AI take decision and what’s different between the human how to take decision and machine take the decision. Human make decision dependent on the emotion, experience, also the wisdom. But AI and machine take decision dependent on the algorithms and data. When we talk algorithms and data, we talk about the accuracy of data, also the design of algorithms, how to design these algorithms. Sometime when take the decision by human, we can maybe go back before the take decision and take another decision. But AI and machine, when take the decision, we cannot go back before the decision. That’s in my opinion, we cannot trust the machine to take decision.


Anriette Esterhuysen: Thanks very much and a very legitimate caution. Next, we have from Cuba and he’ll be responding to us in Spanish. So again, have your headphones on. Mr. Hernandez, Your Excellency, your question, I am sorry, I’m having terrible problems with my computer here. I apologize. I’m usually very well prepared. And you come from Cuba, a country that’s facing so many challenges and climate change not being least of them. And how are you facing this challenge of preparing new generations to make ethical and safe use of digital technologies?


Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez: Before I answer your question, I would like to thank the organizers of the session for giving me the honor of participating in this session. The government of Cuba and the state of Cuba have always attached great importance to the development of information and telecommunication technologies. An example of this was ratified in the 2019 Cuban constitution, which establishes the social development plan for 2030. Additionally, we have declared that digital transformation is one of the pillars of the government, along with science and innovation and social well-being. In order to make this clear and make this a reality in 2024, the policy for digital transformation was approved. The digital agenda that implements it was also approved. And the strategy for the development and use of artificial intelligence were approved. And we believe that that should be done cautiously and under an ethical framework. Precisely, we do have what we need and we call the digital citizenship, which is related to respect to privacy, verification of sources before you disseminate information to avoid discriminatory and offensive and hate speech, and to foster the ability to denounce said practices, to have robust digital accreditation, avoiding and making sure that you carry out updates to digital platforms and their security patches. To this end, we have a network of 642 technology centers in Cuba called the Youth Computer and Electronics Club, and we have been able to train over 5 million Cuban, most of them young people. Additionally, we have specialties, specialism courses in all the universities in the country. In 2022, we created a university specialized in computer sciences, which has seen the graduation of over 17,000 engineers. As part of the general curricular strategy, digital technology topics are taught under an ethical, safe and innovative approach. These actions, together with the implementation of pedagogical modalities and the mediation of technology, ensure quality learning that contributes to coherent integration of educational centers, families and the community in general, under an ethical, safe and responsible use of


Anriette Esterhuysen: digital technologies. Thank you so much, ma’am. Thank you very much for that. If we do want human centric AI, we need to invest in human capacity, and I think you’ve outlined that so clearly. Next, we’re moving to Kenya. So, Mr. Isaboki, how do governments and how do you feel they can and should they balance, on the one hand, ensuring rights to access to information, freedom of expression and the ability to innovate, while also ensuring that there is consideration of


Stephen Isaboke: ethics and values? Thank you, thank you. I think in Kenya, including the current scenario, that there’s an ongoing kind of, I’ll call it, creative tension between the right to access information and media freedom, and obviously innovation, on the other hand, and I think the whole area of ethical regulation, to actually then ensure that there’s a balance between the access to information and also respect for the law. So, the Kenyan constitution actually provides for freedom of the media, access to information, and indeed freedom to expression, but that freedom is actually not unlimited. There are safeguards around, for example, incitement to violence, you know, anything that actually is hate speech or anything that actually causes civil disorder, and all that, and I think that’s really the balance that the authorities must balance between that and allowing for, especially the youth, who are actually very, very much sort of into the AI space, into the information space, where they apply a lot of the latest sort of technology and platforms, TikTok, X, and the rest of the platforms to communicate, and in some instances they might end up communicating or miscommunicating and misinforming, and in the process also sometimes infringe on the rule of law, and sometimes that can catch up with cybercrime and all that. But as a government, we are obviously committed to ensuring that we enable and encourage innovation, encourage free expression, but again, ensuring that there’s a balanced approach to protect rights and also build trust and resilience, you know, in that democratic and digital space. Thank you.


Anriette Esterhuysen: Thank you very much for that, and also, you know, for keeping to time, and I think, and that makes the point that we don’t have to abandon rights in order to respect rights, and in fact, as you said, there are ways of balancing rights when some rights impede on other rights. We have rights frameworks that can help us deal with that, so thanks very much for mentioning that. We’ve heard about the importance of education for AI and capability in AI in order to be able to use it ethically and well in a rights-respecting way, but Mr. Jacek Oko, you’ve got a really interesting topic, which is to talk about how can we use AI? Can we use AI to educate people about the risks of AI? Thank you for the invitation to this important forum.


Jacek Oko: The AI revolution was experienced as two sides of a coin. One, on the hand, there is a tremendous potential, and on the other hand, real risks. Therefore, as regulators and policemakers, we must first protect universal ethical values from the flood of false content. Today, generating a deepfake or disinformation that looks confusingly real is not only possible, but it’s also alarmingly easy. This is a fundamental challenge for the cohesion of our Of course, we are not totally inactive. In the European Union, we already have specific regulations. Such as the Digital Services Act. This is an important tool which gives us, the regulators, the ability to oversee the moderation of illegal content, ensure transparency of online advertisement and allows us to fight against disinformation. But regulations alone are not enough. Therefore, I want to emphasize that education is the most important. Education is crucial in building social resilience. Education that allows each and every citizen, from children to seniors, to distinguish manipulated content from the true one and to understand the intentions behind them, whether they were generated in a good or bad way. However, and this is the key part of the answer to the post-question, let us not be afraid of AI. On the contrary, let us use it as a powerful tool in this educational mission. Let us treat it as a personalized learning assistant aimed at people with special needs, with intellectual disabilities, on the different autism spectrum of the seniors for whom traditional methods can be a barrier. AI can adapt content, explain complex issues in a simple way and create interactive safe environments for learning about the digital world. Who would do that? This is the question. I think we should let’s trust not governmental organizations, let’s trust educators and let’s cooperate with them as an administration. So far, we have measured our strength against our intentions. No, our intentions remain strong, but we can fully respond to them with the power of AI. Our primary goal is to create a safe Internet. But safe Internet in the age of AI means much more than just fast and It means the Internet free from manipulation, which once again becomes what we meant to be from the beginning, a reliable and verified source of knowledge. I have at the end a call. So let’s use AI to teach about AI. Thank you.


Anriette Esterhuysen: Thank you very much and for that challenge. And I think that reminder that if we approach emerging technologies just from a place of fear, we will fail to effectively utilize the positive potential. So thanks for outlining that. And do we have, we don’t have a virtual speaker and I think our speaker from the Philippines is not here. So we have a little bit more time. But our last speaker is Professor Salma Abbasi. Salman, in an era where AI and digital technologies shape our perceptions and decisions, you know, we’ve heard from Kenya as well how that happens in terms of the media and content, online content. How do we ensure ethical accountability? And especially when it’s so much of this, when algorithms actually operate beyond human oversight or even if there’s some human oversight, it’s often not visible or transparent.


Salma Abbasi: Thank you very much. First of all, I really appreciate the opportunity to be on this stage with these distinguished panelists. And I think this is a very important question for us to discuss. As we adopt AI rapidly, we have many, many ethical considerations to have. And I believe that my colleagues have said that the biggest challenge we have is the risk of trusting misinformation, disinformation, and the deep fake. I believe that there are six components to this, and I’ll go through them very quickly. The perforation of misinformation, disinformation, every minister has mentioned. The dramatic acceleration of people believing the false narrative, especially young children, is a problem. The manipulation and the distortion of facts have been seen on the streets of the United Kingdom last year when our societies were polarized and now remains in that situation. The geopolitical dynamics and those who have the power of AI are distorting the facts and there’s no recourse at the moment. The second is the persistent discrimination of the algorithmic bias that reinforces the systemic biases that we have and the programmers that remain in that bias world. The stereotype, the inequity, particularly impacting children and women and the elderly, as my colleague has said from Poland. We need to identify and understand the inequities because they are shaping the digital environment of our kids. The third concern is the privacy and continuous surveillance, which is articulated beautifully by Meredith yesterday, the president of Signal. We have vast amounts of data that people are grasping and analyzing our behavior, our patterns, our vulnerabilities, our fears, and then manipulating that. I’m more concerned about the young and the people with intellectual disabilities. The advancement of commercial exploitation is vast. 700 billion dollars commercial industry for cosmetics frightens me. The individuals do not give consent and are being manipulated. The fourth risk of manipulation is the influence of behavior. The radical increase of gender-based violence, technology-facilitated violence, the narrative of misogyny in society, which is measured, is because our young boys are being exposed to bad social media influences. The ethics, the morals are missing. Young girls are being exploited by technology-facilitated tools hidden in games, which we are not aware of. What we have to do is understand this shift in what is being commercially exploiting as fun because it’s not. It’s penetrating private spaces. Our fears, our perceptions are being shaped. The behaviors of aggression and hate, all the ministers mentioned hate. This is an unrealistic portrayal of the decline of the well-being of children. When I look at the fifth, it’s the critical thinking. Children’s attention span is very short. I’m looking at the time I’m going to erase. It’s very important for us to understand that we’re misleading the children in showing them that this is the way and the only way, the AI way. We need to balance the offline and offline critical thinking ability. The sixth most important, which I think our minister from Libya mentioned, is the nuances of the social cultural norm. All the things that we learn from our grandparents, our culture that is not digital, AI is missing all of that in its analysis. It’s priceless because it’s our cultural knowledge and heritage that is not easily documented. There are three things that I would like to recommend very quickly. The transparency in the design and development, auditable algorithms. We need to know what data they used, what were the parameters they set, and most importantly, how do we check that it’s gender-neutral in its definitions. The second is the oversight and governance, which we will discuss tomorrow. But the human oversight is a must. Human intervention blindly following algorithms is a big mistake. It does make mistakes. The data has errors. The programmer could make a mistake. The regulatory framework needs to be robust and reinforced. My colleague from Cuba, I met your regulators and we discussed this very issue. And the third and final one is robust accountability with consequences. There needs to be a consequence if a duty of care is derelict and a child commits suicide. And finally, many countries from the global south that are rapidly embracing AI without the adequate regulatory frameworks in place and safeguards, we need to collaborate closely to work to build an inclusive framework that is localized and contextualized so that we can incorporate the voices of the global south to ensure that it is shaped by them, for them. The future of AI must be grounded in our shared values with empathy, humanity, and accountability for human dignity for everyone. This is the only way we can ensure that artificial intelligence is not just artificial, but it’s there to ensure a just, secure, and sustainable future for the next generation that we are responsible for. Thank you so much.


Anriette Esterhuysen: Thanks very much, Salma. Thanks to this wonderful panel. We’ve heard about the support for ecosystems, the integration of digital public infrastructure from Belgium, the importance of human centeredness, human rights, balancing rights, but also respecting those rights, incredible value of education and investing in future generations from Cuba. The innovative approach, let’s not be overwhelmed by fear from Poland. And then, Salma, your reminder that we do need frameworks and standards. And I think everyone mentioned the importance of transparency. Thank you very much. Thanks for joining. And thanks to our leaders for inspiring us. Thank you. Recording stopped. Thank you. Dear participants, we would like to welcome you to our final


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Vanessa Matz

Speech speed

119 words per minute

Speech length

358 words

Speech time

179 seconds

Digital services must be accessible to all without exception, including vulnerable groups who need non-digital alternatives

Explanation

Matz argues that ethics in digital transformation must include accessibility and inclusion for all people. She emphasizes that vulnerable groups should always have non-digital alternatives available when digital services are provided to ensure true equality of access.


Evidence

Belgium ensures alternatives, non-digital alternatives at each digital online service


Major discussion point

Ethics and Human Rights in Digital Transformation


Topics

Development | Human rights


Digital technology needs to be safe, ethical and inclusive for all, serving humans rather than replacing human judgment

Explanation

Matz contends that digital technology should be human-centered and cannot simply be imposed without consideration. She argues for constant dialogue and cooperation between authorities to ensure technology serves humanity while respecting ethical principles.


Evidence

Digital technology cannot just be blown back from the sky, it needs to be the fruit of a constant dialogue and active cooperation between all competent authorities and at all levels


Major discussion point

Ethics and Human Rights in Digital Transformation


Topics

Human rights | Sociocultural


Created AI ecosystem bringing together public and private actors to provide ethical and legal advice

Explanation

Matz describes Belgium’s approach to AI governance through creating a collaborative ecosystem. This system brings together various stakeholders to ensure AI deployment respects norms and regulations while maintaining transparent governance.


Evidence

In Belgium, we have created an ecosystem AI for Belgium that brings together public and private actors of the sector


Major discussion point

Governance and Regulatory Frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Human rights


Launched observatory for AI and digital technologies to reinforce transparency and facilitate citizen dialogue

Explanation

Matz explains Belgium’s initiative to create an observatory focused on AI and digital technologies. This institution aims to increase transparency, particularly regarding algorithms used in public services, and to improve communication between citizens and users.


Evidence

We have launched an observatory of artificial intelligence and of the new digital technologies in order to reinforce this transparency and facilitate the dialogue between citizens and the users


Major discussion point

Governance and Regulatory Frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Human rights


Agreed with

– Jacek Oko
– Salma Abbasi
– Anriette Esterhuysen

Agreed on

Transparency in AI systems and governance is crucial


Digital transformation requires constant dialogue and cooperation between competent authorities at all levels

Explanation

Matz emphasizes that successful digital transformation cannot be achieved in isolation but requires ongoing collaboration. She views international cooperation as essential to ensure digitization benefits everyone while respecting ethical principles.


Evidence

The summit is a unique opportunity to reinforce this international cooperation and to ensure that digitization benefits everyone in the respect of ethical principles


Major discussion point

International Cooperation and Capacity Building


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


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Stephen Isaboke

Speech speed

129 words per minute

Speech length

264 words

Speech time

122 seconds

Governments must balance freedom of expression and access to information with ethical regulation and respect for law

Explanation

Isaboke describes the challenge governments face in maintaining democratic freedoms while ensuring responsible use of technology. He emphasizes the need for a balanced approach that protects rights while building trust and resilience in the digital space.


Evidence

There’s an ongoing kind of creative tension between the right to access information and media freedom, and obviously innovation, on the other hand, and the whole area of ethical regulation


Major discussion point

Ethics and Human Rights in Digital Transformation


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Anriette Esterhuysen

Agreed on

Balancing rights and freedoms with ethical considerations


Constitutional freedoms have safeguards against incitement to violence, hate speech, and civil disorder

Explanation

Isaboke explains that while Kenya’s constitution provides for media freedom and access to information, these rights are not unlimited. He outlines specific legal boundaries that exist to prevent harmful content while still allowing for innovation and free expression.


Evidence

The Kenyan constitution actually provides for freedom of the media, access to information, and indeed freedom to expression, but that freedom is actually not unlimited. There are safeguards around, for example, incitement to violence, hate speech or anything that actually causes civil disorder


Major discussion point

Ethics and Human Rights in Digital Transformation


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Anriette Esterhuysen

Agreed on

Balancing rights and freedoms with ethical considerations


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Abdulbaset Albaour

Speech speed

106 words per minute

Speech length

149 words

Speech time

84 seconds

Humans make decisions based on emotion, experience, and wisdom, while AI relies on algorithms and data

Explanation

Albaour contrasts human decision-making processes with AI systems to highlight fundamental differences. He argues that human decisions incorporate emotional intelligence, lived experience, and wisdom, while AI decisions are purely based on algorithmic processing and data analysis.


Evidence

Human make decision dependent on the emotion, experience, also the wisdom. But AI and machine take decision dependent on the algorithms and data


Major discussion point

AI Decision-Making and Human Oversight


Topics

Human rights | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Salma Abbasi

Agreed on

Human oversight is essential in AI decision-making


AI decisions are irreversible unlike human decisions, making machines untrustworthy for decision-making

Explanation

Albaour points out a critical limitation of AI systems – their inability to reconsider or reverse decisions once made. He contrasts this with human decision-making, where people can reconsider and change their minds, leading him to conclude that machines cannot be trusted with decision-making.


Evidence

Sometime when take the decision by human, we can maybe go back before the take decision and take another decision. But AI and machine, when take the decision, we cannot go back before the decision


Major discussion point

AI Decision-Making and Human Oversight


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Salma Abbasi

Agreed on

Human oversight is essential in AI decision-making


E

Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez

Speech speed

109 words per minute

Speech length

336 words

Speech time

184 seconds

Created 642 technology centers training over 5 million Cubans, mostly young people, in digital citizenship

Explanation

Hernandez describes Cuba’s comprehensive approach to digital education through a network of technology centers. These centers focus on teaching digital citizenship, which includes respect for privacy, source verification, and avoiding discriminatory speech.


Evidence

We have a network of 642 technology centers in Cuba called the Youth Computer and Electronics Club, and we have been able to train over 5 million Cuban, most of them young people


Major discussion point

Education and Digital Literacy


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Jacek Oko
– Anriette Esterhuysen

Agreed on

Education is fundamental for ethical AI and digital literacy


Digital technology topics are taught under an ethical, safe and innovative approach in universities

Explanation

Hernandez outlines Cuba’s educational strategy that integrates ethical considerations into technology education at the university level. This approach ensures that future professionals understand both the technical and ethical dimensions of digital technologies.


Evidence

In 2022, we created a university specialized in computer sciences, which has seen the graduation of over 17,000 engineers. Digital technology topics are taught under an ethical, safe and innovative approach


Major discussion point

Education and Digital Literacy


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Jacek Oko
– Anriette Esterhuysen

Agreed on

Education is fundamental for ethical AI and digital literacy


Approved digital transformation policy, digital agenda, and AI development strategy under ethical framework

Explanation

Hernandez describes Cuba’s comprehensive policy approach to digital transformation, emphasizing that AI development should be conducted cautiously within an ethical framework. This represents a systematic governmental approach to managing technological advancement.


Evidence

In 2024, the policy for digital transformation was approved. The digital agenda that implements it was also approved. And the strategy for the development and use of artificial intelligence were approved


Major discussion point

Governance and Regulatory Frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


J

Jacek Oko

Speech speed

130 words per minute

Speech length

400 words

Speech time

184 seconds

Generating deepfakes and disinformation that looks real is alarmingly easy, threatening social cohesion

Explanation

Oko warns about the accessibility of technology that can create convincing false content, presenting this as a fundamental challenge to social stability. He emphasizes that the ease of creating such content poses serious risks to societal trust and cohesion.


Evidence

Today, generating a deepfake or disinformation that looks confusingly real is not only possible, but it’s also alarmingly easy. This is a fundamental challenge for the cohesion of our society


Major discussion point

Risks and Challenges of AI


Topics

Cybersecurity | Sociocultural


Education is crucial for building social resilience and helping citizens distinguish manipulated content from true content

Explanation

Oko argues that education is the most important tool for combating AI-related risks, emphasizing its role in building societal resilience. He believes education should enable all citizens, from children to seniors, to identify manipulated content and understand the intentions behind it.


Evidence

Education is crucial in building social resilience. Education that allows each and every citizen, from children to seniors, to distinguish manipulated content from the true one and to understand the intentions behind them


Major discussion point

Education and Digital Literacy


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Agreed with

– Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez
– Anriette Esterhuysen

Agreed on

Education is fundamental for ethical AI and digital literacy


AI can serve as a personalized learning assistant for people with special needs and intellectual disabilities

Explanation

Oko presents a positive application of AI in education, suggesting it can be used as a tool to help vulnerable populations. He argues that AI can adapt content, simplify complex issues, and create safe learning environments for those who face barriers with traditional educational methods.


Evidence

Let us treat it as a personalized learning assistant aimed at people with special needs, with intellectual disabilities, on the different autism spectrum of the seniors for whom traditional methods can be a barrier


Major discussion point

Education and Digital Literacy


Topics

Human rights | Development


Digital Services Act provides regulators ability to oversee content moderation and fight disinformation

Explanation

Oko describes the European Union’s regulatory approach to managing AI risks through the Digital Services Act. This legislation gives regulators tools to oversee content moderation, ensure transparency in online advertising, and combat disinformation.


Evidence

In the European Union, we already have specific regulations. Such as the Digital Services Act. This is an important tool which gives us, the regulators, the ability to oversee the moderation of illegal content, ensure transparency of online advertisement and allows us to fight against disinformation


Major discussion point

Governance and Regulatory Frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Cybersecurity


Agreed with

– Vanessa Matz
– Salma Abbasi
– Anriette Esterhuysen

Agreed on

Transparency in AI systems and governance is crucial


S

Salma Abbasi

Speech speed

149 words per minute

Speech length

811 words

Speech time

325 seconds

Misinformation and disinformation proliferation leads to dramatic acceleration of false narrative belief, especially among children

Explanation

Abbasi identifies the rapid spread of false information as a critical concern, particularly highlighting how children are vulnerable to believing false narratives. She connects this to real-world consequences, referencing social polarization events in the UK.


Evidence

The manipulation and the distortion of facts have been seen on the streets of the United Kingdom last year when our societies were polarized and now remains in that situation


Major discussion point

Risks and Challenges of AI


Topics

Cybersecurity | Human rights


Algorithmic bias reinforces systemic discrimination, particularly impacting children, women, and elderly

Explanation

Abbasi warns about how AI systems can perpetuate and amplify existing societal biases through algorithmic discrimination. She emphasizes that programmers’ biases become embedded in systems, creating persistent discrimination that particularly affects vulnerable populations.


Evidence

The persistent discrimination of the algorithmic bias that reinforces the systemic biases that we have and the programmers that remain in that bias world. The stereotype, the inequity, particularly impacting children and women and the elderly


Major discussion point

Risks and Challenges of AI


Topics

Human rights | Sociocultural


Technology-facilitated gender-based violence and exploitation of young people through games and social media

Explanation

Abbasi highlights the concerning rise in technology-facilitated violence, particularly gender-based violence and the exploitation of young people. She points to the influence of social media on young boys and the hidden exploitation of girls through gaming platforms.


Evidence

The radical increase of gender-based violence, technology-facilitated violence, the narrative of misogyny in society, which is measured, is because our young boys are being exposed to bad social media influences. Young girls are being exploited by technology-facilitated tools hidden in games


Major discussion point

Risks and Challenges of AI


Topics

Human rights | Cybersecurity


AI lacks understanding of social cultural norms and heritage knowledge from previous generations

Explanation

Abbasi argues that AI systems miss crucial cultural and social knowledge that is passed down through generations but not easily documented. She emphasizes that this cultural heritage and wisdom from grandparents represents priceless knowledge that AI cannot capture or analyze.


Evidence

All the things that we learn from our grandparents, our culture that is not digital, AI is missing all of that in its analysis. It’s priceless because it’s our cultural knowledge and heritage that is not easily documented


Major discussion point

Risks and Challenges of AI


Topics

Sociocultural | Human rights


Children’s attention spans are shortening and critical thinking abilities need to be balanced between online and offline

Explanation

Abbasi expresses concern about the impact of AI and digital technologies on children’s cognitive development. She argues that there’s a dangerous trend of presenting AI as the only way forward, which undermines children’s ability to think critically and balance digital with offline experiences.


Evidence

Children’s attention span is very short. It’s very important for us to understand that we’re misleading the children in showing them that this is the way and the only way, the AI way


Major discussion point

Education and Digital Literacy


Topics

Human rights | Sociocultural


Human oversight is essential as algorithms can make mistakes due to data errors or programmer errors

Explanation

Abbasi emphasizes the critical need for human intervention in AI systems, arguing that blindly following algorithms is dangerous. She points out that AI systems are fallible due to potential data errors and programmer mistakes, making human oversight mandatory.


Evidence

Human intervention blindly following algorithms is a big mistake. It does make mistakes. The data has errors. The programmer could make a mistake


Major discussion point

AI Decision-Making and Human Oversight


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Abdulbaset Albaour

Agreed on

Human oversight is essential in AI decision-making


Blindly following algorithms without human intervention is a significant mistake

Explanation

Abbasi warns against over-reliance on algorithmic decision-making without proper human oversight. She argues that this approach is fundamentally flawed and dangerous, emphasizing the need for human judgment in AI-assisted processes.


Evidence

Human intervention blindly following algorithms is a big mistake. It does make mistakes. The data has errors. The programmer could make a mistake


Major discussion point

AI Decision-Making and Human Oversight


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Abdulbaset Albaour

Agreed on

Human oversight is essential in AI decision-making


Need for transparency in AI design, auditable algorithms, and robust accountability with consequences

Explanation

Abbasi calls for comprehensive transparency measures in AI development, including the ability to audit algorithms and understand their parameters. She emphasizes the need for accountability mechanisms with real consequences, particularly when AI failures lead to serious harm.


Evidence

We need to know what data they used, what were the parameters they set, and most importantly, how do we check that it’s gender-neutral in its definitions. There needs to be a consequence if a duty of care is derelict and a child commits suicide


Major discussion point

Governance and Regulatory Frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Human rights


Agreed with

– Vanessa Matz
– Jacek Oko
– Anriette Esterhuysen

Agreed on

Transparency in AI systems and governance is crucial


Global South countries need collaborative frameworks that are localized and contextualized

Explanation

Abbasi highlights the particular vulnerability of Global South countries that are rapidly adopting AI without adequate regulatory frameworks. She calls for collaborative efforts to build inclusive frameworks that incorporate local voices and contexts rather than imposing external standards.


Evidence

Many countries from the global south that are rapidly embracing AI without the adequate regulatory frameworks in place and safeguards, we need to collaborate closely to work to build an inclusive framework that is localized and contextualized


Major discussion point

International Cooperation and Capacity Building


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory


Future of AI must be grounded in shared values with empathy, humanity, and accountability

Explanation

Abbasi concludes with a call for AI development to be fundamentally grounded in human values and dignity. She emphasizes that AI should not just be artificial but should serve to create a just, secure, and sustainable future for the next generation.


Evidence

The future of AI must be grounded in our shared values with empathy, humanity, and accountability for human dignity for everyone. This is the only way we can ensure that artificial intelligence is not just artificial, but it’s there to ensure a just, secure, and sustainable future for the next generation


Major discussion point

International Cooperation and Capacity Building


Topics

Human rights | Development


A

Anriette Esterhuysen

Speech speed

120 words per minute

Speech length

1206 words

Speech time

601 seconds

Rights frameworks can help balance competing rights without abandoning fundamental rights

Explanation

Esterhuysen emphasizes that when some rights impede on other rights, there are established rights frameworks that can help governments and societies deal with these conflicts. She argues that it’s not necessary to abandon rights in order to respect other rights, but rather to find ways of balancing them appropriately.


Evidence

We don’t have to abandon rights in order to respect rights, and in fact, as you said, there are ways of balancing rights when some rights impede on other rights. We have rights frameworks that can help us deal with that


Major discussion point

Ethics and Human Rights in Digital Transformation


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Stephen Isaboke

Agreed on

Balancing rights and freedoms with ethical considerations


Approaching emerging technologies from fear will prevent effective utilization of positive potential

Explanation

Esterhuysen warns against letting fear dominate our approach to new technologies like AI. She argues that if we are overwhelmed by fear and focus only on risks, we will fail to harness the beneficial capabilities that these technologies can offer society.


Evidence

If we approach emerging technologies just from a place of fear, we will fail to effectively utilize the positive potential


Major discussion point

Ethics and Human Rights in Digital Transformation


Topics

Human rights | Development


Human-centric AI requires investment in human capacity and capability building

Explanation

Esterhuysen emphasizes that for AI to truly serve humanity, there must be substantial investment in developing human capabilities and capacity. She highlights this as a fundamental requirement for ensuring that AI development remains centered on human needs and values.


Evidence

If we do want human centric AI, we need to invest in human capacity


Major discussion point

Education and Digital Literacy


Topics

Development | Human rights


Agreed with

– Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez
– Jacek Oko

Agreed on

Education is fundamental for ethical AI and digital literacy


Transparency is a common theme across all approaches to ethical AI governance

Explanation

Esterhuysen identifies transparency as a recurring and fundamental element mentioned by all panelists in their approaches to AI governance. She presents this as a unifying principle that spans different countries and regulatory approaches to ensuring ethical AI development.


Evidence

I think everyone mentioned the importance of transparency


Major discussion point

Governance and Regulatory Frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Human rights


Agreed with

– Vanessa Matz
– Jacek Oko
– Salma Abbasi

Agreed on

Transparency in AI systems and governance is crucial


P

Participant

Speech speed

64 words per minute

Speech length

56 words

Speech time

52 seconds

The session focuses on WSIS Action Line dealing with ethics and human rights in emerging technologies like AI

Explanation

The participant introduces the session’s scope, explaining that it will examine how ethics and human rights principles apply to emerging technologies, particularly artificial intelligence. This sets the framework for discussing the intersection of technology development and ethical considerations.


Evidence

This session is going to look at the WSIS Action Line that deals with ethics and human rights and particularly in how we apply ethics and human rights to emerging technologies such as artificial intelligence


Major discussion point

Ethics and Human Rights in Digital Transformation


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Agreements

Agreement points

Education is fundamental for ethical AI and digital literacy

Speakers

– Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez
– Jacek Oko
– Anriette Esterhuysen

Arguments

Created 642 technology centers training over 5 million Cubans, mostly young people, in digital citizenship


Digital technology topics are taught under an ethical, safe and innovative approach in universities


Education is crucial for building social resilience and helping citizens distinguish manipulated content from true content


Human-centric AI requires investment in human capacity and capability building


Summary

All speakers emphasized that education and capacity building are essential for ensuring ethical use of AI and digital technologies, with particular focus on training citizens to navigate digital challenges responsibly


Topics

Development | Sociocultural | Human rights


Human oversight is essential in AI decision-making

Speakers

– Abdulbaset Albaour
– Salma Abbasi

Arguments

AI decisions are irreversible unlike human decisions, making machines untrustworthy for decision-making


Humans make decisions based on emotion, experience, and wisdom, while AI relies on algorithms and data


Human oversight is essential as algorithms can make mistakes due to data errors or programmer errors


Blindly following algorithms without human intervention is a significant mistake


Summary

Both speakers strongly advocate for maintaining human control and oversight in AI systems, emphasizing that machines cannot be trusted to make decisions independently due to their limitations and potential for errors


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Transparency in AI systems and governance is crucial

Speakers

– Vanessa Matz
– Jacek Oko
– Salma Abbasi
– Anriette Esterhuysen

Arguments

Launched observatory for AI and digital technologies to reinforce transparency and facilitate citizen dialogue


Digital Services Act provides regulators ability to oversee content moderation and fight disinformation


Need for transparency in AI design, auditable algorithms, and robust accountability with consequences


Transparency is a common theme across all approaches to ethical AI governance


Summary

Multiple speakers emphasized transparency as a fundamental requirement for ethical AI governance, including transparent algorithms, oversight mechanisms, and public dialogue about AI systems


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Human rights


Balancing rights and freedoms with ethical considerations

Speakers

– Stephen Isaboke
– Anriette Esterhuysen

Arguments

Governments must balance freedom of expression and access to information with ethical regulation and respect for law


Constitutional freedoms have safeguards against incitement to violence, hate speech, and civil disorder


Rights frameworks can help balance competing rights without abandoning fundamental rights


Summary

Both speakers agreed that it’s possible and necessary to balance fundamental rights like freedom of expression with ethical considerations and legal safeguards, without abandoning core rights principles


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Similar viewpoints

Both ministers emphasized inclusive approaches to digital transformation that specifically consider vulnerable populations and ensure no one is left behind in the digital transition

Speakers

– Vanessa Matz
– Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez

Arguments

Digital services must be accessible to all without exception, including vulnerable groups who need non-digital alternatives


Created 642 technology centers training over 5 million Cubans, mostly young people, in digital citizenship


Topics

Human rights | Development


Both speakers identified the ease of creating convincing false content as a major threat to society, with particular concern about its impact on social cohesion and vulnerable populations

Speakers

– Jacek Oko
– Salma Abbasi

Arguments

Generating deepfakes and disinformation that looks real is alarmingly easy, threatening social cohesion


Misinformation and disinformation proliferation leads to dramatic acceleration of false narrative belief, especially among children


Topics

Cybersecurity | Sociocultural


Both countries have developed comprehensive policy frameworks and multi-stakeholder approaches to ensure AI development occurs within ethical boundaries

Speakers

– Vanessa Matz
– Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez

Arguments

Approved digital transformation policy, digital agenda, and AI development strategy under ethical framework


Created AI ecosystem bringing together public and private actors to provide ethical and legal advice


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Unexpected consensus

Using AI to combat AI-related risks

Speakers

– Jacek Oko

Arguments

AI can serve as a personalized learning assistant for people with special needs and intellectual disabilities


Explanation

While most speakers focused on AI risks and the need for human oversight, Oko presented an unexpected consensus-building approach of using AI itself as a solution to AI-related problems, particularly in education and accessibility


Topics

Human rights | Development


Cultural knowledge gaps in AI systems

Speakers

– Salma Abbasi

Arguments

AI lacks understanding of social cultural norms and heritage knowledge from previous generations


Explanation

This represents an unexpected area where there was implicit consensus – the recognition that AI systems fundamentally lack cultural wisdom and intergenerational knowledge, which wasn’t directly challenged by other speakers


Topics

Sociocultural | Human rights


Overall assessment

Summary

The speakers demonstrated strong consensus on key principles including the importance of education and capacity building, the need for human oversight in AI systems, transparency requirements, and the possibility of balancing rights with ethical considerations. There was also agreement on the risks posed by misinformation and the need for inclusive approaches to digital transformation.


Consensus level

High level of consensus on fundamental principles, with speakers from different regions and backgrounds converging on similar approaches to ethical AI governance. This suggests a mature understanding of the challenges and potential solutions, with implications for developing international frameworks and standards for AI ethics that could have broad acceptance across different political and cultural contexts.


Differences

Different viewpoints

Trust in AI for decision-making

Speakers

– Abdulbaset Albaour
– Jacek Oko

Arguments

That’s in my opinion, we cannot trust the machine to take decision


Let us not be afraid of AI. On the contrary, let us use it as a powerful tool in this educational mission


Summary

Albaour fundamentally argues against trusting machines for decision-making due to their reliance on algorithms and data versus human emotion, experience, and wisdom. Oko takes a more optimistic stance, advocating for embracing AI as a powerful tool rather than fearing it, particularly in education.


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Approach to AI regulation and oversight

Speakers

– Jacek Oko
– Salma Abbasi

Arguments

Let’s trust not governmental organizations, let’s trust educators and let’s cooperate with them as an administration


The regulatory framework needs to be robust and reinforced


Summary

Oko advocates for trusting non-governmental organizations and educators for AI oversight, emphasizing cooperation with administration. Abbasi calls for robust and reinforced regulatory frameworks, suggesting a more structured governmental approach to AI governance.


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Unexpected differences

Role of fear in approaching AI technology

Speakers

– Anriette Esterhuysen
– Salma Abbasi

Arguments

If we approach emerging technologies just from a place of fear, we will fail to effectively utilize the positive potential


The manipulation and the distortion of facts have been seen on the streets of the United Kingdom last year when our societies were polarized


Explanation

While Esterhuysen warns against fear-based approaches to AI that might prevent utilizing positive potential, Abbasi provides extensive evidence of real-world harms from AI systems, including social polarization, gender-based violence, and exploitation of children. This creates an unexpected tension between optimistic utilization and cautionary risk assessment.


Topics

Human rights | Sociocultural


Overall assessment

Summary

The discussion revealed relatively low levels of direct disagreement, with most conflicts centered around the degree of trust in AI systems and the appropriate balance between regulation and innovation. The main areas of disagreement were: fundamental trust in AI decision-making capabilities, regulatory approaches (governmental vs. non-governmental oversight), and the balance between embracing AI potential versus addressing its risks.


Disagreement level

Low to moderate disagreement level. The speakers largely shared common goals of ethical AI development, human-centered technology, and the importance of education and transparency. However, they differed significantly in their approaches to achieving these goals, particularly regarding the role of regulation, the trustworthiness of AI systems, and the balance between innovation and caution. These disagreements have important implications as they reflect fundamental philosophical differences about AI governance that could impact policy development and international cooperation efforts.


Partial agreements

Partial agreements

Similar viewpoints

Both ministers emphasized inclusive approaches to digital transformation that specifically consider vulnerable populations and ensure no one is left behind in the digital transition

Speakers

– Vanessa Matz
– Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez

Arguments

Digital services must be accessible to all without exception, including vulnerable groups who need non-digital alternatives


Created 642 technology centers training over 5 million Cubans, mostly young people, in digital citizenship


Topics

Human rights | Development


Both speakers identified the ease of creating convincing false content as a major threat to society, with particular concern about its impact on social cohesion and vulnerable populations

Speakers

– Jacek Oko
– Salma Abbasi

Arguments

Generating deepfakes and disinformation that looks real is alarmingly easy, threatening social cohesion


Misinformation and disinformation proliferation leads to dramatic acceleration of false narrative belief, especially among children


Topics

Cybersecurity | Sociocultural


Both countries have developed comprehensive policy frameworks and multi-stakeholder approaches to ensure AI development occurs within ethical boundaries

Speakers

– Vanessa Matz
– Ernesto Rodriguez Hernandez

Arguments

Approved digital transformation policy, digital agenda, and AI development strategy under ethical framework


Created AI ecosystem bringing together public and private actors to provide ethical and legal advice


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Takeaways

Key takeaways

Digital services must be accessible to all populations, including vulnerable groups who require non-digital alternatives to ensure true equality of access


Human oversight is essential in AI systems as machines cannot be trusted to make irreversible decisions based solely on algorithms and data, unlike humans who use emotion, experience, and wisdom


Education and digital literacy are fundamental for building social resilience, with emphasis on teaching citizens to distinguish between authentic and manipulated content


AI poses significant risks including easy generation of deepfakes and disinformation, algorithmic bias that reinforces discrimination, and technology-facilitated violence particularly affecting children and women


Transparency in AI design and development is crucial, requiring auditable algorithms and robust accountability frameworks with consequences for failures


International cooperation is needed to develop localized and contextualized AI frameworks, especially for Global South countries rapidly adopting AI without adequate regulatory safeguards


AI should be used as a tool to educate about AI risks rather than being approached solely from a place of fear, particularly for people with special needs and disabilities


Constitutional rights frameworks can help balance freedom of expression and access to information with ethical regulation and protection against hate speech and violence


Resolutions and action items

Belgium created an AI ecosystem bringing together public and private actors to provide ethical and legal advice on AI deployment


Belgium launched an observatory for AI and digital technologies to reinforce transparency and facilitate citizen dialogue


Cuba established 642 technology centers that have trained over 5 million people in digital citizenship


Cuba approved digital transformation policy, digital agenda, and AI development strategy under an ethical framework


Need to implement auditable algorithms with transparency in design and development processes


Establish robust regulatory frameworks with human oversight requirements and accountability mechanisms with consequences


Unresolved issues

How to effectively regulate AI systems that operate beyond human oversight or with limited transparency


How to address the cultural and heritage knowledge gaps in AI systems that lack understanding of social cultural norms


How to balance innovation and free expression while preventing technology-facilitated violence and exploitation


How to ensure Global South countries can develop adequate regulatory frameworks while rapidly adopting AI technologies


How to address the commercial exploitation in AI systems, particularly the $700 billion cosmetics industry manipulation mentioned


How to effectively combat the shortened attention spans and declining critical thinking abilities in children due to AI exposure


Suggested compromises

Provide non-digital alternatives alongside digital services to ensure inclusion of vulnerable populations while advancing digitalization


Use AI as a personalized learning assistant for people with special needs while maintaining human oversight and intervention capabilities


Apply constitutional safeguards against hate speech and violence while preserving freedom of expression and access to information


Collaborate between governmental and non-governmental organizations, educators, and administrators to leverage AI for educational purposes


Balance online and offline critical thinking development to maintain human cognitive abilities while embracing AI benefits


Develop localized AI frameworks that incorporate Global South voices while building on existing international cooperation structures


Thought provoking comments

Human make decision dependent on the emotion, experience, also the wisdom. But AI and machine take decision dependent on the algorithms and data… Sometime when take the decision by human, we can maybe go back before the take decision and take another decision. But AI and machine, when take the decision, we cannot go back before the decision. That’s in my opinion, we cannot trust the machine to take decision.

Speaker

Abdulbaset Albaour (Libya)


Reason

This comment provides a fundamental philosophical distinction between human and machine decision-making processes. It introduces the critical concept of irreversibility in AI decisions and highlights the absence of emotional intelligence and experiential wisdom in algorithmic processes. This cuts to the core of the ethical debate about AI delegation.


Impact

This comment established a cautionary tone that influenced subsequent speakers to address the limitations of AI. It shifted the discussion from purely technical considerations to fundamental questions about the nature of decision-making and trust in automated systems.


But as a government, we are obviously committed to ensuring that we enable and encourage innovation, encourage free expression, but again, ensuring that there’s a balanced approach to protect rights and also build trust and resilience… we don’t have to abandon rights in order to respect rights, and in fact… there are ways of balancing rights when some rights impede on other rights.

Speaker

Stephen Isaboke (Kenya)


Reason

This comment introduces the sophisticated concept of ‘creative tension’ between competing rights and reframes the discussion from a zero-sum perspective to one of dynamic balance. It challenges the false dichotomy that you must choose between innovation and rights protection.


Impact

This shifted the conversation from viewing rights and innovation as opposing forces to understanding them as complementary elements that require careful balancing. It provided a practical framework for policy-making that influenced the moderator’s summary and likely shaped how other participants viewed the regulatory challenge.


Let us not be afraid of AI. On the contrary, let us use it as a powerful tool in this educational mission… So let’s use AI to teach about AI.

Speaker

Jacek Oko (Poland)


Reason

This comment represents a paradigm shift from defensive to proactive thinking about AI. It’s counterintuitive and innovative – using the very technology that poses risks as a solution to educate about those risks. It challenges the fear-based approach that often dominates AI discussions.


Impact

This comment introduced a new dimension to the discussion by proposing AI as part of the solution rather than just the problem. It moved the conversation from purely regulatory and cautionary approaches to exploring innovative educational applications, demonstrating how emerging technologies can be leveraged for positive outcomes.


The nuances of the social cultural norm. All the things that we learn from our grandparents, our culture that is not digital, AI is missing all of that in its analysis. It’s priceless because it’s our cultural knowledge and heritage that is not easily documented.

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Reason

This comment introduces a profound and often overlooked dimension – the loss of intergenerational wisdom and cultural knowledge in AI systems. It highlights how AI’s reliance on documented, digitized data excludes vast repositories of human knowledge passed down through oral traditions and cultural practices.


Impact

This comment deepened the discussion by introducing cultural and heritage considerations that hadn’t been explicitly addressed. It expanded the scope from technical and regulatory concerns to include preservation of human cultural wisdom, adding a more holistic perspective to the ethical framework discussion.


Many countries from the global south that are rapidly embracing AI without the adequate regulatory frameworks in place and safeguards, we need to collaborate closely to work to build an inclusive framework that is localized and contextualized so that we can incorporate the voices of the global south to ensure that it is shaped by them, for them.

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Reason

This comment addresses a critical gap in global AI governance – the exclusion of Global South perspectives in framework development. It challenges the assumption that AI ethical frameworks can be universally applied without considering local contexts and power dynamics.


Impact

This comment brought attention to global equity issues in AI governance, shifting the discussion from primarily technical and national perspectives to international cooperation and inclusive development. It highlighted the need for collaborative, culturally sensitive approaches to AI ethics.


Overall assessment

These key comments collectively transformed the discussion from a series of national policy presentations into a nuanced exploration of fundamental questions about AI ethics. The Libyan minister’s philosophical distinction between human and machine decision-making established a foundational framework that influenced subsequent speakers to address AI limitations more critically. The Kenyan representative’s concept of ‘creative tension’ and rights balancing provided a sophisticated policy framework that moved beyond simplistic trade-offs. The Polish speaker’s innovative proposal to use AI for AI education introduced solution-oriented thinking, while Professor Abbasi’s comments on cultural knowledge and Global South inclusion expanded the scope to encompass heritage preservation and global equity. Together, these interventions elevated the conversation from technical implementation details to fundamental questions about human agency, cultural preservation, rights balancing, and global justice in the age of AI. The discussion evolved from individual country reports to a collaborative exploration of shared challenges and innovative solutions.


Follow-up questions

How can we effectively balance offline and online critical thinking abilities in children’s education?

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Explanation

This addresses the concern about children’s shortened attention spans and the risk of misleading them into thinking AI is the only way, highlighting the need to develop comprehensive educational approaches


How can we incorporate cultural knowledge and heritage that is not easily documented into AI systems?

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Explanation

This addresses the gap in AI systems missing social cultural norms and traditional knowledge passed down through generations, which is crucial for culturally appropriate AI development


What specific regulatory frameworks and safeguards should Global South countries implement when rapidly adopting AI?

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Explanation

This is critical as many developing countries are embracing AI without adequate protections in place, requiring collaborative frameworks that are localized and contextualized


How can we ensure auditable algorithms with transparent data sources and gender-neutral parameters?

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Explanation

This addresses the need for transparency in AI design and development, particularly regarding what data is used, parameter settings, and bias prevention


What constitutes effective human oversight in AI systems and how can we prevent blind following of algorithms?

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Explanation

This addresses the critical need for human intervention in AI decision-making processes, especially given that algorithms can make mistakes and data can contain errors


How can we establish robust accountability mechanisms with real consequences for AI-related harm?

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Explanation

This addresses the need for accountability when duty of care is neglected and serious harm occurs, such as technology-facilitated violence or exploitation leading to severe consequences


How can AI be effectively used as a personalized learning assistant for people with special needs and intellectual disabilities?

Speaker

Jacek Oko


Explanation

This explores the positive potential of AI in education, particularly for adapting content and creating safe learning environments for vulnerable populations


What are the most effective methods for citizens to distinguish manipulated content from authentic content?

Speaker

Jacek Oko


Explanation

This addresses the fundamental challenge of deepfakes and disinformation, requiring practical solutions for media literacy across all age groups


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Leaders TalkX: Future-ready: enhancing skills for a digital tomorrow

Leaders TalkX: Future-ready: enhancing skills for a digital tomorrow

Session at a glance

Summary

The discussion focused on enhancing digital skills for tomorrow’s workforce, moderated by Cheryl Miller from the U.S. Council for International Business. The panel featured government officials from Estonia, Tanzania, the United Kingdom, and Turkey, along with Jennifer Corriero from Taking It Global, all addressing the urgent global priority of building digital literacy and inclusion.


Maggie Jones from the United Kingdom emphasized that digital skills must be accessible, affordable, and inclusive for meaningful participation in the digital world. She highlighted the UK’s digital access program, which has helped 15 million people in underserved communities across five countries and reduced the digital gap by 26% in 2024. Estonia’s Liisa Pakosta shared her country’s comprehensive approach, noting that Estonia became fully digital after regaining independence in 1991, with 100% of government services now digital. Most notably, Estonia launched the world’s first AI program for schools in September, providing free access to AI tools for all 10th and 11th graders and teachers.


Tanzania’s Jerry William Silaa outlined five key pillars for creating an enabling environment: political commitment, infrastructure investment, legal frameworks, inclusivity partnerships, and skills development. Turkey’s Ömer Abdullah Karagözoglu discussed the BTK Academy, launched in 2017, which now serves 2.65 million users with 317 training programs covering digital skills from basic to professional levels. Jennifer Corriero emphasized the importance of experiential learning in K-12 education, advocating for virtual field trips and youth-led community projects to inspire children and ensure technology enhances rather than replaces human connection. The panel collectively demonstrated that successful digital transformation requires comprehensive strategies combining infrastructure, education, policy, and international cooperation.


Keypoints

**Major Discussion Points:**


– **Digital inclusion and accessibility as a global priority** – Multiple panelists emphasized that one-third of the world’s population still lacks internet access, and that connectivity must be both available and affordable to create meaningful digital participation for all segments of society.


– **Integration of digital skills into national education systems** – Countries shared their approaches to embedding digital literacy from elementary through university levels, with Estonia pioneering AI programs for all 10th and 11th graders, and Tanzania incorporating digital skills throughout their curriculum.


– **Creating enabling environments for digital transformation** – Panelists discussed the infrastructure, legal frameworks, political commitment, and multi-stakeholder partnerships necessary to support successful digitalization initiatives, including investment in broadband connectivity and innovation hubs.


– **Youth-centered approaches and experiential learning** – The discussion highlighted the importance of hands-on, experiential learning opportunities for K-12 students, including virtual field trips, community-based projects, and ensuring young people have agency in their digital education journey.


– **International cooperation and knowledge sharing** – Countries emphasized the value of partnerships, sharing best practices, and collaborative approaches to bridge the global digital divide, with examples of successful international programs and initiatives.


**Overall Purpose:**


The discussion aimed to explore strategies for building digital skills as a global priority, focusing on how different countries are approaching digital inclusion, education, and skills development to prepare people for meaningful participation in a digital future. The panel sought to share best practices and promote international cooperation in bridging the digital divide.


**Overall Tone:**


The discussion maintained a consistently positive, collaborative, and inspiring tone throughout. Panelists were enthusiastic about sharing their countries’ achievements and approaches, while emphasizing partnership and mutual learning. The tone was professional yet passionate, with speakers demonstrating genuine commitment to digital inclusion and youth empowerment. The moderator maintained an encouraging atmosphere, and the session concluded on an uplifting note with the youth advocate’s call to collective responsibility for future generations.


Speakers

– **Cheryl Miller** – Moderator, U.S. Council for International Business


– **Liisa Ly Pakosta** – Her Excellency, Estonia (referred to as “Liisa Pakosta” in introduction but speaks as “Liisa Ly Pakosta”)


– **Maggie Jones** – The Honorable, United Kingdom – Digital development and digital skills integration


– **Jerry William Silaa** – The Honorable, Minister of Ministry of Communication and Information Technology, United Republic of Tanzania – Digitalization and enabling environments


– **Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu** – The Honorable, Chairman of the Board and President of the Information and Communications Technology Authority, Turkey – ICT skills and digital literacy access (referred to as “Ömer Abdullah Karagözoglu” in introduction but speaks as “Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu”)


– **Jennifer Corriero** – Executive Director of Taking It Global – K-12 education and youth digital skills development


**Additional speakers:**


– **Michael Furtick** – Co-founder of Taking It Global (mentioned by Jennifer Corriero as being present in the room, but did not speak)


Full session report

# Enhancing Digital Skills for Tomorrow’s Workforce: A Global Perspective


## Executive Summary


The discussion on enhancing digital skills for tomorrow’s workforce, moderated by Cheryl Miller from the U.S. Council for International Business, featured government officials from Estonia, Tanzania, the United Kingdom, and Turkey, alongside Jennifer Corriero from Taking It Global. Each panelist presented their country’s or organization’s approach to building digital literacy and inclusion, showcasing diverse implementation strategies across different national contexts.


## National Approaches and Key Initiatives


### United Kingdom: International Cooperation and Digital Access


Maggie Jones from the United Kingdom emphasized that connectivity alone is insufficient for digital inclusion. She stated, “we won’t bring them online by just making an Internet connection available to people. Connectivity must also be affordable. And for people to engage with the digital world meaningfully and safely, we must ensure they have the necessary digital literacy and digital skills.”


Jones highlighted that one-third of the world’s population still lacks internet access. The UK has launched a new digital development strategy and implemented a digital access programme that has reached millions of people across multiple countries. She noted that digital and computing roles are projected to grow more than double the rate of the wider workforce by 2030, emphasizing the economic importance of digital skills development.


### Estonia: Comprehensive Digital Transformation and AI Integration


Liisa Pakosta from Estonia announced that Estonia became the first country to implement AI programmes for all 10th and 11th graders and teachers starting in September 2024. She explained the challenge facing education systems: “We all know that all that you learned like two years ago is not very relevant maybe today, and we do not know exactly what are the skills you need after two years. But in education systems, you build education systems for 10 or 15 years.”


Estonia’s digital transformation began after regaining independence in 1991, with the country achieving 100% digital government services. The Tiger Leap programme delivered internet access to all schools, including primary schools. Pakosta emphasized Estonia’s commitment to knowledge sharing, stating that the country is “fully open to sharing experiences, lessons learned, and mistakes with other countries interested in digitalisation.”


### Tanzania: Multi-Stakeholder Partnerships and Infrastructure Investment


Jerry William Silaa from Tanzania reported significant infrastructure achievements, with the country reaching high levels of mobile broadband connectivity across 3G, 4G, and 5G networks through substantial infrastructure investment. Tanzania’s approach is built on five key pillars: political commitment, infrastructure investment, legal frameworks, inclusivity partnerships, and skills development.


Tanzania has integrated digital skills throughout its educational system from elementary to university level and is designing a digital technology institute to serve both in-school and out-of-school experts. The country is also building eight innovation hubs to incubate youth ideas and develop startup ecosystems. President launched a 10-year digital economy strategy in July 2024, demonstrating sustained political commitment to digital transformation.


### Turkey: Structured Training and Institutional Capacity Building


Ömer Abdullah Karagözoglu from Turkey presented the BTK Academy, launched in 2017, which now serves 2.65 million users with 317 training programmes across 12 thematic categories. The academy covers digital skills from basic to professional levels, with particular focus on rural and underserved regions.


Karagözoglu emphasized that “basic digital competencies promote equal opportunities in labour markets and help narrow regional development gaps,” highlighting the economic and social benefits of comprehensive digital skills programmes. Turkey views digital literacy as a foundational skill and core element of modern education strategy.


### Taking It Global: Youth-Centered Learning and Community Building


Jennifer Corriero from Taking It Global focused on K-12 education and youth empowerment, advocating for experiential, hands-on learning opportunities. She emphasized the importance of maintaining human connection in digital transformation, arguing that “investment in public education should utilize technology for enrichment opportunities for every child” while ensuring that “focus should be on community building and ensuring technology doesn’t interfere with human connections.”


Corriero engaged the audience by asking them to identify as parents, aunties, uncles, or mentors, connecting individual responsibility to systemic change. She concluded with an ethical framework: “So, it’s our duty. It’s our collective duty to care, not only for the babies of today, but for those that are unborn, and to make sure that the ways that we’re creating technologies and using technologies are truly enriching generations to come to help them thrive.”


## Common Themes and Approaches


### Educational System Integration


All speakers emphasized the importance of integrating digital skills into national education systems from early levels through professional development. Countries demonstrated varying approaches, from Estonia’s AI integration to Tanzania’s comprehensive curriculum development and Turkey’s extensive training platforms.


### Infrastructure and Accessibility


The discussion highlighted that digital inclusion requires both infrastructure development and skills training. Speakers emphasized that connectivity must be accompanied by affordability, safety measures, and meaningful engagement opportunities.


### International Cooperation


Multiple speakers emphasized the importance of collaboration between countries, sectors, and stakeholders. The UK’s international programme, Estonia’s knowledge-sharing commitment, and Tanzania’s multi-stakeholder partnerships demonstrate different models of cooperation in digital development.


### Youth Focus and Innovation


All presentations included strong emphasis on youth engagement and innovation, from Tanzania’s innovation hubs to Estonia’s comprehensive school programmes and Taking It Global’s community-based approach.


## Implementation Strategies


### Government Leadership


The discussion revealed the importance of high-level political commitment supported by comprehensive strategic frameworks. Tanzania’s 10-year digital economy strategy and the UK’s new digital development strategy demonstrate sustained political vision.


### Partnership Models


Tanzania’s multi-stakeholder approach highlighted partnerships between government, private sector, civil society, and international organizations. This model enables resource sharing and broader reach than single-sector initiatives.


### Adaptive Systems


Estonia’s rapid AI integration demonstrates the importance of adaptive approaches that can respond quickly to technological changes. Estonia’s willingness to experiment and share both successes and failures provides lessons for other countries.


## Conclusion


The panel demonstrated diverse approaches to digital skills development, from comprehensive government-led initiatives to international cooperation models and community-based programs. Each speaker presented concrete examples of programs and policies their countries or organizations have implemented to address digital inclusion.


The discussion highlighted both the technical and human dimensions of digital transformation, with speakers emphasizing that successful digital skills development requires not only infrastructure and training but also attention to community building, equity, and meaningful participation in the digital economy.


The speakers’ willingness to share experiences and lessons learned suggests opportunities for continued international cooperation and mutual learning in addressing the global challenge of digital inclusion.


Session transcript

Cheryl Miller: Good morning, Your Excellencies, distinguished panelists and esteemed colleagues. My name is Cheryl Miller and I’m with the U.S. Council for International Business. It is an honor to moderate today’s Leaders’ Talk X Future Ready Enhancing Skills for a Digital Tomorrow. Building digital skills is an urgent global priority. We need to equip people with the tools needed to meaningfully participate in an open, inclusive and people-centered information society. As we dive into this important discussion, I would like to first introduce our distinguished panel. We have the Honorable Liisa Pakosta of Estonia, the Honorable Jerry William Silaa of Tanzania, the Honorable Maggie Jones of the United Kingdom, the Honorable Ömer Abdullah Karagözoglu of Turkey, and the Executive Director of Taking It Global, Ms. Jennifer Correiro. I’d like to pose my first question to the United Kingdom, the Honorable Maggie Jones. And I understand that the United Kingdom has its own unique approach to digital development and the progression of skills. How are digital skills integrated into the UK’s approach and how does that support the United Kingdom with its agenda on digital inclusion and connectivity?


Maggie Jones: Thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to present the UK’s approach to digital development. And our approach in the UK to the development of our own digital skills is exactly the same as the approach that we apply internationally. And our approach is simple. Our approach is simple. For ICTs to benefit all aspects of life, they must be accessible to people. One third of the world’s population still doesn’t have access to the Internet. We won’t bring them online by just making an Internet connection available to people. Connectivity must also be affordable. And for people to engage with the digital world meaningfully and safely, we must ensure they have the necessary digital literacy and digital skills. The UK’s digital access program has helped drive affordable last-minute connectivity for over 15 million people in 5,000 underserved communities in Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa, Brazil and Indonesia. By promoting sustainable technology and business models, our digital access program helped partner countries to reduce their digital gap by 26% in 2024. It shows what can be achieved through international cooperation and partnership. We must also be inclusive. Promoting digital skills is a key part of the UK’s approach to achieving this goal of inclusive digital development. Digital skills are not just for the tech savvy. They are enabling all of us to use new technology with confidence and safety. Digital skills are also critical for a thriving economy. Digital and computing roles are projected to grow by more than double those in the wider workforce by 2030. The UK also partners with developing countries through initiatives such as Skills for Inclusive Digital Participation within the British Council. That project helps build the whole spectrum of digital skills to increase digital literacy and to raise cybersecurity awareness. We fully support the WSIS agenda and its priority to connect the remaining third of the world’s population. The UK’s new digital development strategy was launched last year. It outlines a vision to bridge the global digital divide in partnership with developing countries and to promote a more inclusive, responsible and sustainable digital transformation. It recognizes international cooperation and multi-stakeholder approaches are vital to achieving inclusive and responsible digital transformation. The UK has partnered with the ITU since 2020, and we’re very proud of that work and partnership. Inclusive digital development is fundamental to unleashing technology’s potential as an enabler across all of the sustainable goals, and those are our priorities.


Cheryl Miller: Thank you. Thank you so much. Let’s give a warm round of applause. Thank you. We turn next to Estonia, and I understand that Estonia has been consistently scoring high in results, and so I’d like to pose this question to Her Excellency Liisa Ly Pakosta. How do we approach teaching and skills development in a rapidly changing environment, and what can other countries learn from what Estonia has put into place?


Liisa Ly Pakosta: Thank you. So, Estonia is a fully digital country, and I can share very quickly some of our experiences. First, we regained our independence after Russian occupation in 1991. During the Russian occupation, learning at school was a way to show resistance, so when we regained our independence, we were very poor, but we had a lot of talent out there who had really learned at schools, also IT. So this was the baseline to build up a fully digital society where we now have 100% of government services digital. Going forward from that, we had Tiger Leap, so we delivered internet to all the schools, including the primary schools, and started… with Teaching IT Skills from the Very Beginning. And what we are doing now, now during the AI era, we all know that all that you learned like two years ago is not very relevant maybe today, and we do not know exactly what are the skills you need after two years. But in education systems, you build education systems for 10 or 15 years. So in order to fulfill the requirements of innovation, economy, democracy, justice for everybody, equity, and all the values that we really have, we start from the 1st of September this year, as the first country in the world, AI program for the schools. So all the 10th graders and 11th graders and all the teachers in Estonia will get free access, free access for everybody to use actually the AI tools throughout the school learning. So we would like to be our children to be the best users and the best developers of artificial intelligence in the world. And this is absolutely needed if we want to go on with innovation, with digitalization, using AI, developing AI for the good of our citizens. So this very shortly has been the Estonian path, and now I have to underline that this has all supported learning all other subjects as well. We have constantly been in top rows of the PISA tests that measure the general understanding and skills of students throughout the world. So democratic values, equity, but offering the free access to absolutely everybody to learn and use all the technological possibilities out there has been the ground for Estonian success for digitalization. And we are fully open to share our experiences and to share our cornerstones, lessons learned, but also mistakes made to everybody who is interested in. So because only with a cooperation we can build a better world. Thank you so much.


Cheryl Miller: Thank you so much. It is truly inspiring to hear the amount of effort that you all are putting into this preparation. I know that it really takes an enabling environment to roll out these types of initiatives and skill building. I’d like to turn next to the Honorable Jerry William Silaa, Minister of Ministry of Communication and Information Technology for the United Republic of Tanzania. And I understand that Tanzania has been doing a lot of work to get ready, and so my question to you is, in terms of an enabling environment, what is the enabling environment that you’ve created?


Jerry William Silaa: Good morning. Thank you, the moderator. It’s quite a privilege to be part of this high-level panel. In Tanzania, we are really proud of how we provide a good environment for digitalization. And there are like, I’ll mention, like five pillars out of many. We start with the political wheel. We have a big and huge commitment from Her Excellency Dr. Samia Sulohasan, the President of the United Republic of Tanzania herself, through the 10 years digital economy strategy she launched on the 29th of July 2024. Also, on the infrastructure, we have a massive and high investment in infrastructure. We are having 93, 91, and 25 mobile broadband connectivity in 3G, 4G, and 5G, respectively. We are having about currently 13,820 national ICT backbone, connecting 109 districts out of 139 districts, and we are doing a massive investment in last-mile connectivity. And also on legal framework, we’ve just enacted a Personal Data Protection Act, and we have formed a Personal Data Protection Commission. We have strong legal institutions to manage the digitalization in the country. The regulator, and a very huge inclusivity in terms of partnership, in terms of government, private, civil society, the international organization, the ITU, and the global platform players. Also, in terms of youth, we have a very high level inclusion of youth. We are now building eight innovation hubs, which will incubate the ideas and innovation of youth in the startups ecosystem to make sure that they are not being left behind. But also, we are having a huge commitment of the government in terms of putting up a level playing field for all players so that when we go for digitalization, we don’t leave behind anyone in the society. And the best and the major huge pillar is the skills. We have incorporated digital skills in our curriculum from the elementary level and primary school to the university. But also, as my colleague from Houston has said, digitalization knowledge is changing. The government is currently now designing a digital technology institute, which will be an institute to act as a leverage for out-of-school and in-school experts to brush their knowledge in terms of emerging technologies, artificial intelligence, big data analytics, and all the emerging technologies which now are growing in a steady pace so that we can be compatible to the whole digitalization process, as Tanzania should be also a player. Thank you.


Cheryl Miller: Thank you so much. And I think a key aspect to this all is access, making sure that we have access to ICT skills. And so, I’d like to turn next to the Honorable Omar Abdullah Karaguzoglu. He is the Chairman of the Board and President of the Authority for the Information and Communications Technology Authority in Turkey. And my question to you, I understand that Turkey has been very much focused on the access portion. And so, what is the significance of ensuring widespread access to ICT skills and digital literacy in Turkey? And what steps are being undertaken to address the issue?


Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu: Thank you, Madam Chair. Excellencies, esteemed colleagues, and valuable participants, good morning to all and to our great panel. I wish everyone a fruitful and successful session. Ensuring nationwide access to ICT skills and digital literacy is a strategic priority for both individual empowerment and inclusive national development. It is also vital for fostering meaningful and sustainable international cooperation. First and foremost, basic digital competencies help promote equal opportunities in the labor market. Educational resources and training opportunities must be accessible to all, not just those who are already digitally skilled or well-connected. Such inclusivity helps narrow regional development gaps and alleviates youth migration pressure from underdeveloped areas. Moreover, equipping businesses and entrepreneurs with digital skills significantly enhances productivity and facilitates access to global markets, enabling stronger integration into international value chains. Inclusive ICT education also plays a key role in enabling the full participation of all segments of society, including persons with disabilities and the elderly. In today’s world, digital literacy is no longer optional. It is a foundational skill and a core element of any modern education and development strategy. In line with this vision, the BTK Academy was launched by the Information and Communication Technology Authority of Turkey at the end of 2017. It serves as a comprehensive online training portal designed to provide individuals with the knowledge and skills they need to thrive in the digital era. Beyond online access, the Academy also delivers in-person and camp-based trainings, particularly targeting rural and underserved regions. It offers programs for all levels, from beginners to professionals, with content developed by experts in areas such as software development, cybersecurity, artificial intelligence, and cloud computing. As of today, the BTK Academy hosts 317 training programs, in total 165,000 minutes of content across 12 thematic categories, and serves a growing community of over 2.65 million users. We believe that investing in digital literacy and ICT skills is investing in a more inclusive, innovative, and future-ready society. We are proud of the progress achieved so far and remain fully committed to expanding and diversifying our efforts. Our goal is to ensure that no one is left behind in the digital transformation journey, and we believe we are on the right track. Thank you.


Cheryl Miller: Thank you so much. One of the great things about this was this high level has been the focus on youth. There have been many different sessions and conversations around young people and their interaction in tomorrow’s digital economy. And so, I’d like to turn next to our final panelist, Ms. Jennifer Corriero. She’s the Executive Director of Taken Inc. Global, and I understand that there are different phases of our journey with these technologies, and you focus on K-12. And so, we’d love to hear your perspective. What approaches are needed in K-12 education to support students in developing their skills for a digital tomorrow?


Jennifer Corriero: Thank you. I am so happy to be here. And in a nutshell, I think we need to focus on experiential hands-on learning opportunities to inspire kids. How many of you are a parent, an auntie, an uncle, or a mentor to a young person in your life? Please raise your hand. Tell me if you have a child in your life. I hope to see more hands up. All right. So, together, I hope that we can increase investments in public education so that we can utilize technology in ways that allow for enrichment opportunities for all children, for every child to feel that they are surrounded by role models, by people who they can relate to through offering virtual field trips. This is where Connected North was recognized from Canada. We were the Canadian project highlighted in the WSIS Champion recognition earlier this week. Virtual field trips with galleries, museums, science centers, aquariums, the space station, inspiring children to see what the possibilities are for their futures. And also, how can we focus on community building and well-being and not let technology get in the way of our humanity and the importance of connecting with one another as people and to feel a sense of agency? I believe that we should invest in funds for youth-led, community-based projects. 25 years ago, I started this charity, Taking It Global, with my co-founder, who’s here in the room, Michael Furtick. We started as teenagers in the early days of the Internet. We were high school students wishing for a more interactive learning experience while we were at school. And so, we created one of the world’s first online communities, one of the world’s first multilingual websites on the Internet. We were the founders of the Youth Caucus for the World Summit on the Information Society back in 2002, 2003, with the prep comms, of course. We were there in Geneva. We had a youth pavilion. We were there in Tunis. And here I am, 20 years later, still advocating, not as a young person, but as a mother, as an auntie, as a mentor, as someone who is so grateful to the people who gave me a chance, who gave me the mic and asked for my inputs when I was young. So, that’s why I invited you to think about the young people in your life, but also think about when you were a child. Who were the people who gave you a chance? Who are the people that encouraged you to be the leader that you are today? And what can we do collectively as a global community to take that responsibility, not only for our own kin, but for those children who we may have never met before, because they can’t be here on this stage. So, it’s our duty. It’s our collective duty to care, not only for the babies of today, but for those that are unborn, and to make sure that the ways that we’re creating technologies and using technologies are truly enriching generations to come to help them thrive. Thank you.


Cheryl Miller: Thank you so, so very much. And that concludes our panel, but I would love to give you all just the warmest round of applause. I thought this was an awesome panel, and thank you all in the audience for joining us. Louder, we can’t hear you. Gotta get ready for lunch. Thank you, Cheryl. Could we please invite you for a group photograph before you leave the stage? Recording stopped.


M

Maggie Jones

Speech speed

118 words per minute

Speech length

408 words

Speech time

206 seconds

One third of the world’s population still lacks internet access, requiring affordable connectivity beyond just availability

Explanation

Jones argues that simply making internet connections available is insufficient to bring people online. Connectivity must also be affordable, and people need digital literacy and skills to engage meaningfully and safely with the digital world.


Evidence

One third of the world’s population still doesn’t have access to the Internet


Major discussion point

Digital Infrastructure and Connectivity


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


UK’s digital access program helped 15 million people in 5,000 underserved communities across multiple countries

Explanation

The UK’s digital access program demonstrates the effectiveness of international cooperation in bridging digital divides. By promoting sustainable technology and business models, the program achieved significant results in reducing digital gaps.


Evidence

Digital access program helped drive affordable last-minute connectivity for over 15 million people in 5,000 underserved communities in Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa, Brazil and Indonesia, reducing digital gap by 26% in 2024


Major discussion point

International Cooperation and Partnership Models


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Agreed with

– Liisa Ly Pakosta
– Jerry William Silaa
– Jennifer Corriero

Agreed on

International cooperation and partnership are essential for successful digital development


Digital skills must be accessible to all people, not just the tech-savvy, to enable confident and safe technology use

Explanation

Jones emphasizes that digital skills are not exclusive to technically inclined individuals but are essential for everyone to use new technology with confidence and safety. This inclusive approach is key to achieving meaningful digital participation across all segments of society.


Evidence

Digital skills are not just for the tech savvy. They are enabling all of us to use new technology with confidence and safety


Major discussion point

Inclusive Digital Development and Access


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu
– Jerry William Silaa
– Jennifer Corriero

Agreed on

Digital inclusion must ensure no one is left behind in the digital transformation


Digital and computing roles are projected to grow more than double the rate of the wider workforce by 2030

Explanation

Jones highlights the critical economic importance of digital skills by pointing to the rapid growth expected in digital and computing roles. This projection underscores why digital skills are essential for a thriving economy and future workforce preparation.


Evidence

Digital and computing roles are projected to grow by more than double those in the wider workforce by 2030


Major discussion point

Economic Impact and Workforce Development


Topics

Economic | Development


Agreed with

– Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu
– Jerry William Silaa
– Cheryl Miller

Agreed on

Digital skills are critical for economic development and workforce preparation


UK launched new digital development strategy to bridge global digital divide through international partnerships

Explanation

The UK’s new digital development strategy represents a comprehensive approach to addressing global digital inequality. It emphasizes the importance of working with developing countries and utilizing multi-stakeholder approaches to achieve inclusive and responsible digital transformation.


Evidence

UK’s new digital development strategy launched last year outlines vision to bridge global digital divide in partnership with developing countries and promote more inclusive, responsible and sustainable digital transformation


Major discussion point

Government Leadership and Policy Framework


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory


L

Liisa Ly Pakosta

Speech speed

126 words per minute

Speech length

423 words

Speech time

200 seconds

Estonia delivered internet to all schools including primary schools through the Tiger Leap program

Explanation

Estonia’s Tiger Leap program was a foundational initiative that provided internet access to all educational institutions, including primary schools. This early investment in educational technology infrastructure enabled the country to begin teaching IT skills from the very beginning of students’ educational journey.


Evidence

Tiger Leap program delivered internet to all schools, including primary schools, and started teaching IT skills from the very beginning


Major discussion point

Digital Infrastructure and Connectivity


Topics

Infrastructure | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Jerry William Silaa
– Jennifer Corriero
– Cheryl Miller

Agreed on

Digital skills education must be integrated throughout educational systems from early levels


Estonia became the first country to implement AI programs for all 10th and 11th graders and teachers starting September 2024

Explanation

Estonia pioneered a comprehensive AI education program, recognizing that traditional education systems built for 10-15 years cannot keep pace with rapidly changing technology. The program provides free access to AI tools for all students and teachers to ensure Estonia’s children become the best users and developers of artificial intelligence globally.


Evidence

First country in the world to start AI program for schools from September 1st, 2024, giving all 10th and 11th graders and teachers free access to AI tools


Major discussion point

Digital Skills Integration in Education Systems


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Estonia is fully open to sharing experiences, lessons learned, and mistakes with other countries interested in digitalization

Explanation

Estonia demonstrates a collaborative approach to digital development by offering to share both their successes and failures with other nations. This openness reflects their belief that international cooperation is essential for building a better world through digitalization.


Evidence

Fully open to share experiences, cornerstones, lessons learned, and mistakes made to everybody interested because only with cooperation we can build a better world


Major discussion point

International Cooperation and Partnership Models


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Maggie Jones
– Jerry William Silaa
– Jennifer Corriero

Agreed on

International cooperation and partnership are essential for successful digital development


Estonia’s approach emphasizes democratic values, equity, and free access to technological possibilities for everyone

Explanation

Estonia’s digital development strategy is built on principles of democratic values and equity, ensuring that all citizens have free access to technological opportunities. This approach has supported learning across all subjects and contributed to Estonia’s consistently high performance in international educational assessments like PISA tests.


Evidence

Democratic values, equity, offering free access to absolutely everybody to learn and use all technological possibilities has been ground for Estonian success, consistently in top rows of PISA tests


Major discussion point

Government Leadership and Policy Framework


Topics

Development | Human rights


J

Jerry William Silaa

Speech speed

128 words per minute

Speech length

400 words

Speech time

186 seconds

Tanzania has achieved 93% 3G, 91% 4G, and 25% 5G mobile broadband connectivity with massive infrastructure investment

Explanation

Tanzania has made substantial investments in telecommunications infrastructure, resulting in high levels of mobile broadband connectivity across different generations of technology. The country has also developed extensive ICT backbone infrastructure connecting the majority of its districts.


Evidence

93%, 91%, and 25% mobile broadband connectivity in 3G, 4G, and 5G respectively; 13,820 national ICT backbone connecting 109 districts out of 139 districts


Major discussion point

Digital Infrastructure and Connectivity


Topics

Infrastructure | Development


Tanzania incorporated digital skills in curriculum from elementary to university level and is designing a digital technology institute

Explanation

Tanzania has integrated digital skills education throughout its entire educational system, from primary school through higher education. Additionally, the government is developing a specialized digital technology institute to serve as a resource for both in-school and out-of-school learners to update their knowledge in emerging technologies.


Evidence

Incorporated digital skills in curriculum from elementary level and primary school to university; designing digital technology institute for out-of-school and in-school experts in emerging technologies, AI, big data analytics


Major discussion point

Digital Skills Integration in Education Systems


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Agreed with

– Liisa Ly Pakosta
– Jennifer Corriero
– Cheryl Miller

Agreed on

Digital skills education must be integrated throughout educational systems from early levels


Tanzania maintains inclusivity through partnerships between government, private sector, civil society, and international organizations

Explanation

Tanzania’s approach to digitalization emphasizes creating a level playing field for all stakeholders and ensuring no one is left behind. The country actively engages multiple sectors and international partners, including the ITU and global platform players, to achieve comprehensive digital inclusion.


Evidence

High level inclusion of partnerships between government, private, civil society, international organizations, ITU, and global platform players; commitment to level playing field for all players


Major discussion point

Inclusive Digital Development and Access


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Maggie Jones
– Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu
– Jennifer Corriero

Agreed on

Digital inclusion must ensure no one is left behind in the digital transformation


Tanzania is building eight innovation hubs to incubate youth ideas and startups ecosystem

Explanation

Tanzania is investing in youth-focused innovation infrastructure by establishing eight innovation hubs designed to support young entrepreneurs and startups. This initiative aims to ensure that young people are not left behind in the digital transformation and can contribute to the country’s innovation economy.


Evidence

Building eight innovation hubs to incubate ideas and innovation of youth in startups ecosystem to ensure they are not left behind


Major discussion point

Economic Impact and Workforce Development


Topics

Economic | Development


Agreed with

– Maggie Jones
– Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu
– Cheryl Miller

Agreed on

Digital skills are critical for economic development and workforce preparation


Tanzania has strong political commitment through President’s 10-year digital economy strategy launched in July 2024

Explanation

Tanzania demonstrates high-level political commitment to digital transformation through presidential leadership and comprehensive strategic planning. The 10-year digital economy strategy launched by President Samia Suluhu Hassan represents a long-term vision for the country’s digital development.


Evidence

Big and huge commitment from President Dr. Samia Sulohasan through 10 years digital economy strategy launched on July 29th, 2024


Major discussion point

Government Leadership and Policy Framework


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


O

Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu

Speech speed

113 words per minute

Speech length

371 words

Speech time

196 seconds

Turkey’s BTK Academy serves over 2.65 million users through comprehensive online training portal

Explanation

Turkey’s BTK Academy, launched in 2017, provides comprehensive digital skills training through both online and in-person formats. The platform particularly targets rural and underserved regions, offering extensive content developed by experts in various technology fields.


Evidence

BTK Academy launched end of 2017, hosts 317 training programs, 165,000 minutes of content across 12 thematic categories, serves over 2.65 million users, delivers in-person and camp-based trainings in rural areas


Major discussion point

Digital Infrastructure and Connectivity


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Turkey’s BTK Academy offers 317 training programs across 12 thematic categories for all skill levels

Explanation

The BTK Academy provides comprehensive digital education with extensive program offerings covering various technology areas from beginner to professional levels. The content spans critical areas such as software development, cybersecurity, artificial intelligence, and cloud computing.


Evidence

317 training programs, 165,000 minutes of content across 12 thematic categories, programs for all levels from beginners to professionals in software development, cybersecurity, AI, and cloud computing


Major discussion point

Digital Skills Integration in Education Systems


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Basic digital competencies promote equal opportunities in labor markets and help narrow regional development gaps

Explanation

Karagozoglu argues that ensuring widespread access to digital skills creates more equitable opportunities in employment and reduces disparities between different regions. This inclusive approach also helps address youth migration from underdeveloped areas by providing local opportunities.


Evidence

Basic digital competencies help promote equal opportunities in labor market, help narrow regional development gaps and alleviate youth migration pressure from underdeveloped areas


Major discussion point

Inclusive Digital Development and Access


Topics

Development | Economic


Agreed with

– Maggie Jones
– Jerry William Silaa
– Jennifer Corriero

Agreed on

Digital inclusion must ensure no one is left behind in the digital transformation


Equipping businesses with digital skills enhances productivity and facilitates access to global markets

Explanation

Digital skills training for businesses and entrepreneurs significantly improves their operational efficiency and enables them to participate in international markets. This capability strengthens their integration into global value chains and enhances economic competitiveness.


Evidence

Equipping businesses and entrepreneurs with digital skills significantly enhances productivity and facilitates access to global markets, enabling stronger integration into international value chains


Major discussion point

Economic Impact and Workforce Development


Topics

Economic | Development


Agreed with

– Maggie Jones
– Jerry William Silaa
– Cheryl Miller

Agreed on

Digital skills are critical for economic development and workforce preparation


Turkey views digital literacy as foundational skill and core element of modern education strategy

Explanation

Turkey positions digital literacy not as an optional skill but as a fundamental requirement for modern society. This perspective drives their comprehensive approach to digital education and development, emphasizing that digital competency is essential for full participation in contemporary life.


Evidence

Digital literacy is no longer optional, it is a foundational skill and core element of any modern education and development strategy


Major discussion point

Government Leadership and Policy Framework


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


J

Jennifer Corriero

Speech speed

154 words per minute

Speech length

518 words

Speech time

200 seconds

K-12 education needs experiential hands-on learning opportunities and virtual field trips to inspire children

Explanation

Corriero advocates for interactive, experiential learning approaches that utilize technology to provide enriching educational experiences. She emphasizes the importance of virtual field trips to galleries, museums, science centers, and other inspiring locations to help children envision possibilities for their futures.


Evidence

Connected North recognized as Canadian WSIS Champion project for virtual field trips with galleries, museums, science centers, aquariums, space station to inspire children


Major discussion point

Digital Skills Integration in Education Systems


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Agreed with

– Liisa Ly Pakosta
– Jerry William Silaa
– Cheryl Miller

Agreed on

Digital skills education must be integrated throughout educational systems from early levels


Investment in public education should utilize technology for enrichment opportunities for every child

Explanation

Corriero calls for increased investment in public education systems to ensure that technology serves as an enrichment tool accessible to all children. She emphasizes the importance of surrounding children with role models and people they can relate to through technological platforms.


Evidence

Need to increase investments in public education to utilize technology for enrichment opportunities for all children, surrounded by role models through virtual experiences


Major discussion point

Inclusive Digital Development and Access


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Maggie Jones
– Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu
– Jerry William Silaa

Agreed on

Digital inclusion must ensure no one is left behind in the digital transformation


Global community has collective duty to care for children and ensure technology enriches future generations

Explanation

Corriero emphasizes that digital development is not just about individual responsibility but requires collective global action. She argues that current leaders have a duty to ensure that technology development and implementation truly benefits not only today’s children but also future unborn generations.


Evidence

Collective duty to care not only for our own kin but for children we may never meet, for babies of today and those unborn, to ensure technology enriches generations to come


Major discussion point

International Cooperation and Partnership Models


Topics

Development | Human rights


Agreed with

– Maggie Jones
– Liisa Ly Pakosta
– Jerry William Silaa

Agreed on

International cooperation and partnership are essential for successful digital development


Focus should be on community building and ensuring technology doesn’t interfere with human connections

Explanation

Corriero advocates for maintaining the human element in digital development, emphasizing that technology should enhance rather than replace human connections. She stresses the importance of community building and ensuring people maintain a sense of agency and humanity in their interactions with technology.


Evidence

Focus on community building and well-being, not let technology get in the way of our humanity and importance of connecting with one another as people and to feel sense of agency


Major discussion point

Economic Impact and Workforce Development


Topics

Sociocultural | Human rights


C

Cheryl Miller

Speech speed

142 words per minute

Speech length

641 words

Speech time

269 seconds

Building digital skills is an urgent global priority to equip people for meaningful participation in an inclusive information society

Explanation

Miller emphasizes that developing digital skills is not just important but urgent on a global scale. She argues that people need to be equipped with the right tools to meaningfully participate in an open, inclusive, and people-centered information society.


Evidence

Building digital skills is an urgent global priority. We need to equip people with the tools needed to meaningfully participate in an open, inclusive and people-centered information society


Major discussion point

Digital Skills Integration in Education Systems


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Liisa Ly Pakosta
– Jerry William Silaa
– Jennifer Corriero

Agreed on

Digital skills education must be integrated throughout educational systems from early levels


Access to ICT skills is a key aspect of digital development initiatives

Explanation

Miller identifies access as a fundamental component of digital development efforts. She emphasizes that ensuring widespread access to ICT skills and digital literacy is crucial for successful digital transformation initiatives.


Evidence

A key aspect to this all is access, making sure that we have access to ICT skills


Major discussion point

Inclusive Digital Development and Access


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Youth engagement and their interaction with tomorrow’s digital economy requires focused attention in education

Explanation

Miller highlights the importance of focusing on young people and their role in the future digital economy. She emphasizes that different phases of technological development require specific approaches, particularly in K-12 education systems.


Evidence

Focus on youth and their interaction in tomorrow’s digital economy, with many sessions and conversations around young people


Major discussion point

Economic Impact and Workforce Development


Topics

Economic | Development


Agreed with

– Maggie Jones
– Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu
– Jerry William Silaa

Agreed on

Digital skills are critical for economic development and workforce preparation


Agreements

Agreement points

Digital skills education must be integrated throughout educational systems from early levels

Speakers

– Liisa Ly Pakosta
– Jerry William Silaa
– Jennifer Corriero
– Cheryl Miller

Arguments

Estonia delivered internet to all schools including primary schools through the Tiger Leap program


Tanzania incorporated digital skills in curriculum from elementary to university level and is designing a digital technology institute


K-12 education needs experiential hands-on learning opportunities and virtual field trips to inspire children


Building digital skills is an urgent global priority to equip people for meaningful participation in an inclusive information society


Summary

All speakers agree that digital skills education should start early and be systematically integrated throughout educational systems, from primary school through higher education levels.


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


International cooperation and partnership are essential for successful digital development

Speakers

– Maggie Jones
– Liisa Ly Pakosta
– Jerry William Silaa
– Jennifer Corriero

Arguments

UK’s digital access program helped 15 million people in 5,000 underserved communities across multiple countries


Estonia is fully open to sharing experiences, lessons learned, and mistakes with other countries interested in digitalization


Tanzania maintains inclusivity through partnerships between government, private sector, civil society, and international organizations


Global community has collective duty to care for children and ensure technology enriches future generations


Summary

Speakers unanimously emphasize that digital development cannot be achieved in isolation and requires collaborative efforts between countries, sectors, and stakeholders.


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Digital inclusion must ensure no one is left behind in the digital transformation

Speakers

– Maggie Jones
– Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu
– Jerry William Silaa
– Jennifer Corriero

Arguments

Digital skills must be accessible to all people, not just the tech-savvy, to enable confident and safe technology use


Basic digital competencies promote equal opportunities in labor markets and help narrow regional development gaps


Tanzania maintains inclusivity through partnerships between government, private sector, civil society, and international organizations


Investment in public education should utilize technology for enrichment opportunities for every child


Summary

All speakers advocate for inclusive digital development that provides equal access and opportunities to all segments of society, regardless of their background or current skill level.


Topics

Development | Human rights


Digital skills are critical for economic development and workforce preparation

Speakers

– Maggie Jones
– Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu
– Jerry William Silaa
– Cheryl Miller

Arguments

Digital and computing roles are projected to grow more than double the rate of the wider workforce by 2030


Equipping businesses with digital skills enhances productivity and facilitates access to global markets


Tanzania is building eight innovation hubs to incubate youth ideas and startups ecosystem


Youth engagement and their interaction with tomorrow’s digital economy requires focused attention in education


Summary

Speakers agree that digital skills are not just educational goals but essential economic drivers that prepare workforce for future job markets and enhance business competitiveness.


Topics

Economic | Development


Similar viewpoints

Both countries have developed comprehensive, government-led digital education platforms that provide extensive training programs and embrace cutting-edge technologies like AI to prepare their populations for digital futures.

Speakers

– Liisa Ly Pakosta
– Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu

Arguments

Estonia became the first country to implement AI programs for all 10th and 11th graders and teachers starting September 2024


Turkey’s BTK Academy offers 317 training programs across 12 thematic categories for all skill levels


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Both countries demonstrate high-level political commitment through comprehensive national digital strategies that emphasize long-term planning and international cooperation.

Speakers

– Jerry William Silaa
– Maggie Jones

Arguments

Tanzania has strong political commitment through President’s 10-year digital economy strategy launched in July 2024


UK launched new digital development strategy to bridge global digital divide through international partnerships


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Both speakers emphasize that technology should serve human values and democratic principles, maintaining focus on community, equity, and human connections rather than technology for its own sake.

Speakers

– Jennifer Corriero
– Liisa Ly Pakosta

Arguments

Focus should be on community building and ensuring technology doesn’t interfere with human connections


Estonia’s approach emphasizes democratic values, equity, and free access to technological possibilities for everyone


Topics

Sociocultural | Human rights


Unexpected consensus

Rapid adaptation to emerging technologies like AI in formal education systems

Speakers

– Liisa Ly Pakosta
– Jerry William Silaa

Arguments

Estonia became the first country to implement AI programs for all 10th and 11th graders and teachers starting September 2024


Tanzania incorporated digital skills in curriculum from elementary to university level and is designing a digital technology institute


Explanation

It’s unexpected that both a highly developed digital nation like Estonia and a developing country like Tanzania are equally committed to rapidly integrating cutting-edge technologies like AI into their formal education systems, showing that technological advancement in education is not limited by economic development level.


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Emphasis on youth-led innovation and entrepreneurship across different development contexts

Speakers

– Jerry William Silaa
– Jennifer Corriero

Arguments

Tanzania is building eight innovation hubs to incubate youth ideas and startups ecosystem


Global community has collective duty to care for children and ensure technology enriches future generations


Explanation

The consensus between a government minister from a developing country and a youth advocacy leader on prioritizing youth-led innovation shows unexpected alignment between institutional and grassroots perspectives on empowering young people in digital transformation.


Topics

Economic | Development


Overall assessment

Summary

The speakers demonstrated remarkable consensus across key areas: the need for early and systematic digital skills education, the importance of international cooperation, the imperative for inclusive digital development, and the economic significance of digital skills. All speakers emphasized that digital transformation must be people-centered and leave no one behind.


Consensus level

Very high level of consensus with no significant disagreements identified. This strong alignment suggests a mature global understanding of digital development challenges and solutions, indicating that the international community has converged on fundamental principles for digital skills development. The implications are positive for coordinated global action, as shared understanding facilitates collaborative implementation of digital inclusion initiatives.


Differences

Different viewpoints

Unexpected differences

Overall assessment

Summary

The discussion revealed remarkably high consensus among speakers with no direct disagreements identified. All speakers shared common goals around inclusive digital development, education integration, and economic benefits of digital skills.


Disagreement level

Very low disagreement level with high consensus on fundamental principles. The main differences were in implementation approaches and emphasis rather than conflicting viewpoints. This high level of agreement suggests strong international alignment on digital development priorities, though it may also indicate limited diversity of perspectives or insufficient challenging of assumptions in the discussion format.


Partial agreements

Partial agreements

Similar viewpoints

Both countries have developed comprehensive, government-led digital education platforms that provide extensive training programs and embrace cutting-edge technologies like AI to prepare their populations for digital futures.

Speakers

– Liisa Ly Pakosta
– Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu

Arguments

Estonia became the first country to implement AI programs for all 10th and 11th graders and teachers starting September 2024


Turkey’s BTK Academy offers 317 training programs across 12 thematic categories for all skill levels


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Both countries demonstrate high-level political commitment through comprehensive national digital strategies that emphasize long-term planning and international cooperation.

Speakers

– Jerry William Silaa
– Maggie Jones

Arguments

Tanzania has strong political commitment through President’s 10-year digital economy strategy launched in July 2024


UK launched new digital development strategy to bridge global digital divide through international partnerships


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Both speakers emphasize that technology should serve human values and democratic principles, maintaining focus on community, equity, and human connections rather than technology for its own sake.

Speakers

– Jennifer Corriero
– Liisa Ly Pakosta

Arguments

Focus should be on community building and ensuring technology doesn’t interfere with human connections


Estonia’s approach emphasizes democratic values, equity, and free access to technological possibilities for everyone


Topics

Sociocultural | Human rights


Takeaways

Key takeaways

Digital skills development requires a multi-faceted approach combining infrastructure investment, educational integration, and inclusive access policies


International cooperation and partnership models are essential for bridging the global digital divide, as demonstrated by successful programs reaching millions of people


Educational systems must adapt rapidly to technological changes, with Estonia leading by implementing AI programs for students and teachers


Government leadership and political commitment are crucial enablers, supported by comprehensive legal frameworks and strategic policies


Digital literacy is now a foundational skill equivalent to traditional literacy, requiring integration from elementary education through professional development


Inclusive development must ensure no one is left behind, including rural communities, persons with disabilities, elderly populations, and underserved regions


Youth engagement and experiential learning approaches are critical for preparing students for future digital economies


Economic benefits include projected doubling of digital job growth by 2030 and enhanced productivity through global market access


Resolutions and action items

Estonia committed to sharing experiences, lessons learned, and mistakes with other interested countries


Tanzania announced plans to complete connectivity to remaining 30 districts through national ICT backbone expansion


Turkey committed to expanding and diversifying BTK Academy efforts to ensure no one is left behind in digital transformation


UK reaffirmed support for WSIS agenda to connect the remaining third of the world’s population without internet access


Tanzania is building eight innovation hubs to incubate youth ideas and startup ecosystems


Tanzania is designing a digital technology institute for both in-school and out-of-school experts to update skills in emerging technologies


Unresolved issues

How to effectively address the challenge that skills learned two years ago may not be relevant today while education systems are built for 10-15 year timeframes


Specific mechanisms for ensuring affordability of connectivity beyond just availability


Detailed strategies for addressing youth migration pressure from underdeveloped areas through digital skills


Concrete measures for preventing technology from interfering with human connections and community building


Funding mechanisms for scaling successful programs globally, particularly for youth-led community-based projects


Standardization approaches for digital skills curricula across different educational systems and countries


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Thought provoking comments

We won’t bring them online by just making an Internet connection available to people. Connectivity must also be affordable. And for people to engage with the digital world meaningfully and safely, we must ensure they have the necessary digital literacy and digital skills.

Speaker

Maggie Jones (UK)


Reason

This comment reframes the digital divide discussion by highlighting that access alone is insufficient. It introduces the critical distinction between mere connectivity and meaningful digital participation, emphasizing affordability and safety as essential components.


Impact

This established the foundational framework for the entire discussion, moving beyond simple infrastructure provision to holistic digital inclusion. It set the tone for subsequent speakers to address comprehensive approaches rather than just technical solutions.


We all know that all that you learned like two years ago is not very relevant maybe today, and we do not know exactly what are the skills you need after two years. But in education systems, you build education systems for 10 or 15 years.

Speaker

Liisa Ly Pakosta (Estonia)


Reason

This comment captures the fundamental paradox of digital education – the tension between rapidly evolving technology and the inherently slow-moving nature of educational systems. It articulates a core challenge that all countries face in digital skills development.


Impact

This observation shifted the discussion from what to teach to how to create adaptive learning systems. It influenced subsequent speakers to focus on flexible, future-ready approaches rather than specific technical skills, and justified Estonia’s bold move to integrate AI into their curriculum.


So all the 10th graders and 11th graders and all the teachers in Estonia will get free access, free access for everybody to use actually the AI tools throughout the school learning. So we would like to be our children to be the best users and the best developers of artificial intelligence in the world.

Speaker

Liisa Ly Pakosta (Estonia)


Reason

This represents a paradigm shift in educational policy – being the first country to systematically integrate AI tools into education. It’s provocative because it challenges traditional educational approaches and demonstrates unprecedented commitment to emerging technology adoption.


Impact

This concrete example of radical innovation elevated the discussion from theoretical frameworks to bold practical implementation. It likely influenced other panelists to think more ambitiously about their own digital education initiatives and set a new benchmark for educational technology integration.


How many of you are a parent, an auntie, an uncle, or a mentor to a young person in your life? Please raise your hand… Who were the people who gave you a chance? Who are the people that encouraged you to be the leader that you are today?

Speaker

Jennifer Corriero


Reason

This interactive moment transformed the discussion from policy-focused to deeply personal, connecting individual responsibility to systemic change. It challenged the audience to see digital skills development as a personal mission rather than just institutional responsibility.


Impact

This dramatically shifted the tone and engagement level of the discussion, making it more emotionally resonant and actionable. It moved the conversation from what governments should do to what individuals can do, creating a bridge between policy and personal responsibility that concluded the panel on a more humanistic and inspiring note.


So, it’s our duty. It’s our collective duty to care, not only for the babies of today, but for those that are unborn, and to make sure that the ways that we’re creating technologies and using technologies are truly enriching generations to come to help them thrive.

Speaker

Jennifer Corriero


Reason

This comment elevates the discussion to an intergenerational and ethical level, framing digital skills development as a moral imperative that extends beyond current policy cycles to future generations. It introduces the concept of technological stewardship.


Impact

This provided a powerful philosophical conclusion that recontextualized all the previous technical and policy discussions within a broader ethical framework. It challenged participants to think beyond immediate outcomes to long-term societal impact and responsibility.


Overall assessment

These key comments collectively transformed what could have been a routine policy discussion into a multi-layered exploration of digital inclusion challenges. Jones’s opening reframing established comprehensive thinking about digital access, while Pakosta’s observations about the pace of change and Estonia’s AI initiative introduced urgency and innovation. Corriero’s personal appeals and ethical framing provided emotional depth and moral context. Together, these comments created a progression from technical infrastructure concerns to adaptive educational systems to personal and intergenerational responsibility, making the discussion more nuanced, actionable, and inspiring than a typical policy panel.


Follow-up questions

How can countries effectively adapt their education systems for rapidly changing technology when building education systems typically takes 10-15 years?

Speaker

Liisa Ly Pakosta


Explanation

This addresses the fundamental challenge of keeping pace with technological advancement in educational planning, as highlighted when discussing how skills learned two years ago may not be relevant today


What are the best practices and lessons learned from Estonia’s AI program implementation that other countries can adopt?

Speaker

Liisa Ly Pakosta


Explanation

Estonia offered to share their experiences, mistakes, and lessons learned from being the first country to implement AI programs in schools, indicating this as an area for knowledge transfer


How can countries ensure no one is left behind in digital transformation while maintaining a level playing field for all players?

Speaker

Jerry William Silaa


Explanation

This relates to the inclusive approach Tanzania is taking and represents a broader challenge for developing nations implementing digital strategies


What specific strategies are most effective for reaching rural and underserved regions with digital literacy programs?

Speaker

Omer Abdullah Karagozoglu


Explanation

Turkey’s BTK Academy targets these areas specifically, and understanding effective approaches for underserved populations is crucial for inclusive digital development


How can we increase investments in public education to better utilize technology for enrichment opportunities for all children?

Speaker

Jennifer Corriero


Explanation

This addresses the funding gap in educational technology and the need for equitable access to digital learning opportunities


What are the most effective methods for connecting the remaining one-third of the world’s population that still lacks internet access?

Speaker

Maggie Jones


Explanation

This represents a significant global challenge mentioned as part of the WSIS agenda and UK’s digital development strategy


How can technology be used to enhance human connection and community building rather than replacing it?

Speaker

Jennifer Corriero


Explanation

This addresses the balance between technological advancement and maintaining human relationships and agency in digital transformation


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WSIS Action Lines C4 and C7:E-employment: Emerging technologies in the world of work: Addressing challenges through digital skills

WSIS Action Lines C4 and C7:E-employment: Emerging technologies in the world of work: Addressing challenges through digital skills

Session at a glance

Summary

This discussion focused on preparing the workforce for the digital future, particularly addressing the challenges and opportunities presented by artificial intelligence and rapidly evolving skill requirements. The panelists, including representatives from Microsoft, ITU, ILO, and UNESCO, explored strategies for developing future-ready skills in an era of technological transformation.


A key finding highlighted by Microsoft’s Anupama Shekhar was that LinkedIn data projects a 70% change in skills needed for most jobs by 2030, emphasizing the urgent need for adaptive learning approaches. The discussion emphasized three critical strategies: supporting innovative peer-to-peer learning models, developing locally generated but globally relevant programs, and building capacity within educational and training systems rather than just targeting individual learners directly.


The panelists stressed the importance of comprehensive policy frameworks, with ILO’s Dorothea Schmidt-Klau advocating for inclusive national employment policies that integrate digitalization strategies with employment frameworks. She highlighted the need to update international labor standards to address digital transformation while ensuring decent work conditions. ITU’s Susan Teltscher discussed scaling challenges, particularly in reaching underserved rural communities that lack internet access and require resource-intensive, localized approaches.


The conversation addressed AI’s dual role as both a tool for learning and a subject requiring literacy, with emphasis on developing critical thinking and human skills alongside technical competencies. Participants raised concerns about assessment challenges in higher education, the need for continuous course updates due to rapid technological change, and gender disparities in AI skill development. The discussion concluded with calls for strengthened partnerships between public and private sectors, emphasizing that collaboration is essential for creating sustainable, scalable solutions to workforce development challenges in the digital age.


Keypoints

## Major Discussion Points:


– **Rapid Skills Transformation and Future-Readiness**: The discussion emphasized that by 2030, approximately 70% of skills needed for most jobs will change, requiring new approaches to defining and achieving “future-readiness” in the workforce. This includes supporting innovative learning models and locally-generated but globally-relevant programs.


– **AI’s Impact on Learning and Education**: Participants explored both opportunities and challenges of AI in education, including concerns about assessment authenticity, the need for AI literacy frameworks, and the importance of maintaining human skills like critical thinking and communication alongside technical capabilities.


– **Policy Integration and Scaling**: The conversation highlighted the critical need for comprehensive national employment policies that integrate digitalization strategies, active labor market policies, and updated international labor standards to make skills development initiatives sustainable and scalable.


– **Bridging the Digital Divide and Reaching Underserved Communities**: Significant attention was given to the challenge of reaching rural and underserved populations who lack internet access and digital infrastructure, requiring resource-intensive community-based approaches and strong partnerships.


– **Partnership and Ecosystem Building**: Throughout the discussion, speakers emphasized that effective skills development requires building capacity not just in individual learners, but in the entire ecosystem of educational institutions, government agencies, and private sector partners working together.


## Overall Purpose:


The discussion aimed to explore strategies for developing digital and AI skills at scale, with particular focus on how international organizations, governments, and private sector partners can collaborate to prepare workforces for rapid technological change while ensuring inclusive access to training opportunities.


## Overall Tone:


The tone was collaborative and solution-oriented throughout, with participants building on each other’s insights rather than debating. There was a sense of urgency about the pace of technological change, but also optimism about the potential for partnerships and innovative approaches to address the challenges. The discussion maintained a practical focus on actionable strategies while acknowledging the complexity of the issues at hand.


Speakers

**Speakers from the provided list:**


– **Tom Wambeke**: Moderator of the session


– **Dorothea Schmidt-Klau**: Works for the ILO (International Labour Organization), focuses on employment policies and international labor standards


– **Anupama Shekhar**: Works with Microsoft, focuses on digital skills development and AI literacy programs


– **Susan Teltscher**: Works with ITU (International Telecommunication Union), involved in digital skills training and the ITU Academy


– **Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta**: Government Affairs in Coursera for Latin America and the Caribbean


– **Nidhi Gopal**: International candidate with specialization in VLSI design and engineering (participated online)


– **Sarah-Jane Fox**: Dr. Sarah-Jane Fox from the Institute for Digital Culture


– **Participant**: Valeska Guerrero – Expert on sustainable infrastructure, also mentioned another unnamed participant who discussed unemployed graduates and AI academies


– **Gianluca Musraca**: Dr. Gianluca Musraca, described as a futurist working on AI governance and digital transformation projects, involved with UNESCO competence frameworks


**Additional speakers:**


None identified beyond those in the provided speakers names list.


Full session report

# Preparing the Workforce for the Digital Future: A Comprehensive Discussion on AI and Skills Development


## Executive Summary


This comprehensive discussion, moderated by Tom Wambeke, brought together representatives from major international organisations and private sector leaders to address the critical challenge of preparing the global workforce for an AI-driven future. The main panel included Susan Teltscher from the International Telecommunication Union (ITU), Anupama Shekhar from Microsoft, Dorothea Schmidt-Klau from the International Labour Organization (ILO), and Gianluca Musraca working on AI governance and digital transformation. The session also featured active participation from audience members including Maria Cristina Cardenas from Coursera, Dr. Sarah-Jane Fox from the Institute for Digital Culture, and Nidhi Gopal participating online.


The discussion centred on the urgent need to address rapidly evolving skill requirements in an era of technological transformation, with particular emphasis on artificial intelligence’s impact on education, employment, and workforce development. A key finding highlighted by Microsoft’s research revealed that 70% of skills needed for most jobs will change by 2030, establishing the urgency that permeated the entire conversation.


## The Scale of Transformation: Understanding the 70% Skills Change


Anupama Shekhar from Microsoft opened the substantive discussion with a striking statistic that fundamentally reframed the conversation from theoretical future planning to immediate crisis management. LinkedIn data projects that by 2030, approximately 70% of skills needed for most jobs will change, requiring a complete reconceptualisation of what it means to be “future ready” in the workforce.


Shekhar emphasised that this transformation necessitates three critical strategies for effective response. First, organisations must support innovative models such as peer-to-peer learning platforms like Goodwall that enable young entrepreneurs to learn from each other in dynamic, collaborative environments. Second, there is a crucial need for locally generated but globally relevant programs that go beyond simple language translation to achieve true cultural localisation. Third, the focus must shift from building capacity in individual learners to strengthening the entire ecosystem of educational institutions and systems that deliver training.


Microsoft has responded to these challenges by partnering with one of the largest teachers’ unions in the U.S. to create AI academies for teachers, recognising that transforming learning environments requires working with educators rather than bypassing them. Shekhar also discussed the TeachAI framework, which provides competency definitions and policy considerations for educational implementation, moving beyond simple technical training to encompass broader capabilities including ethical AI use and critical evaluation of AI outputs.


## Scaling Through National Policy Frameworks


Dorothea Schmidt-Klau from the ILO provided crucial insights into the policy dimensions of skills development, arguing that inclusive national employment policies are essential to scale up and make digital skills initiatives sustainable. She made a particularly thought-provoking observation about the need for systemic transformation: “It’s not only the people who need to be future ready. It’s also our own international labour standards that need to be future ready… Every single labour standard needs to be checked, whether it is still relevant.”


This comment expanded the scope of ‘future readiness’ beyond individual skills to institutional and regulatory frameworks, recognising that the challenge extends far beyond training people differently to fundamentally restructuring the systems that govern work. Schmidt-Klau emphasised that international labour standards require updating to include digitalisation, digital skills, and lifelong learning components.


The ILO representative highlighted successful partnerships such as the Decent Jobs for Youth initiative partnering with Microsoft, demonstrating how public-private collaboration can effectively scale digital skills training. However, she also raised concerns about reaching the most vulnerable populations, particularly NEETs (not in education, employment, or training) who are completely disconnected from systems and whom “we don’t even know where they sit.”


## Regional Acceleration and Cross-Border Challenges


Susan Teltscher from the ITU addressed the practical challenges of scaling digital skills initiatives across regions and borders. She noted that the ITU Academy runs more than 150 courses annually for all countries, demonstrating the scale of international coordination required. However, she highlighted a critical implementation challenge: “Those that are in the underserved communities, they don’t have access to Internet at home. They don’t have a computer… So if you want to train them, how do you do that? You have to go out and reach them in their communities… This is very resource intensive.”


This observation grounded the high-level discussion in practical realities, highlighting the digital divide as a fundamental barrier to scaling AI and digital skills training. Teltscher emphasised the need for partnerships to reach underserved communities and stressed that lifelong learning approaches must recognise that not everyone has innate digital capabilities.


The ITU has been working on regional acceleration initiatives and cross-border knowledge sharing, recognising that skills development challenges transcend national boundaries and require coordinated responses. Teltscher also emphasised the importance of balancing AI tool usage with maintaining fundamental knowledge and soft skills.


## AI’s Future Impact and Governance Challenges


Gianluca Musraca, working on AI governance and digital transformation projects, introduced critical concerns about the pace of technological change and its implications for policy-making. He made a particularly striking observation: “Look at what happened with ChatGPT, we were not prepared for that and now this is already past. The agentic AI phenomenon is already changing completely our organisations… we may actually end in a very dystopian future that we should try to avoid.”


Musraca emphasised that policymakers often lack understanding of AI implications and need better engagement and education to make evidence-based decisions. He advocated for multidisciplinary approaches that extend beyond technical skills to include procurement, change management, and public service delivery. He also promoted modular, personalised training approaches with micro-credentials as necessary adaptations to diverse skill development needs in rapidly changing environments.


His work on the AI for Gov project demonstrates practical applications of these principles, focusing on helping government officials understand and implement AI technologies responsibly. Musraca stressed the importance of moving beyond superficial AI training to develop deeper, more comprehensive understanding of technological implications.


## Audience Insights and Practical Challenges


The discussion was enriched by substantial audience participation that highlighted practical implementation challenges. Valeska Guerrero raised important concerns about the balance between AI productivity tools and foundational knowledge, questioning whether increased efficiency might come at the cost of deep understanding.


Dr. Sarah-Jane Fox from the Institute for Digital Culture posed critical questions about assessment challenges in higher education, asking how institutions can effectively evaluate students when AI tools are widely used. She expressed concern about the risk that students might develop AI skills without acquiring fundamental knowledge and expertise.


Maria Cristina Cardenas from Coursera provided valuable data on gender disparities in AI education, revealing that only 32% of women enroll in AI courses globally. She also highlighted the challenge of keeping course content current, noting that platforms must constantly update their offerings due to rapid AI innovation.


One participant suggested creating networks to help unemployed graduates in developing countries create AI-based startups addressing Sustainable Development Goals, highlighting the potential for international collaboration to address both skills development and broader development challenges.


Nidhi Gopal, participating online as an international candidate specialising in VLSI design and engineering, inquired about opportunities with the ILO, demonstrating the global reach and interest in these initiatives.


## Key Areas of Consensus and Collaboration


Despite representing different sectors and perspectives, the panellists demonstrated remarkable consensus on several key principles. There was universal agreement that partnerships are essential for scaling digital skills initiatives, with speakers consistently emphasising that effective scaling cannot be achieved by individual organisations alone.


The panel also reached strong consensus that AI should complement rather than replace human capabilities, with particular emphasis on maintaining critical thinking, communication skills, and fundamental knowledge. This human-centred approach to AI integration emerged as a core value shared across all participants.


All speakers recognised that rapid technological change necessitates adaptive and modular training approaches rather than traditional static educational models. The emphasis on lifelong learning as a response to continuous technological evolution was another area of strong agreement.


## Proposed Solutions and Next Steps


The discussion generated several concrete proposals for moving forward. Participants agreed to continue partnerships between UN organisations and private sector partners for skills training initiatives, building on successful models like the Decent Jobs for Youth initiative.


There was support for developing and implementing AI literacy frameworks with defined competencies for educational policy, as demonstrated by Microsoft’s TeachAI initiative. The creation of modular, personalised training approaches with micro-credentials was proposed to adapt to diverse skill development needs.


The launch of initiatives like the AI Skills Coalition and Digital Transformation Center was discussed as ways to promote training and reach underserved communities. Participants also agreed to follow up with smaller group conversations in subsequent sessions to take actions forward and solve identified challenges.


## Final Reflections from Panellists


In closing remarks, each panellist offered their perspective on moving forward. Anupama Shekhar emphasised the need to “dream big and dream small” – thinking systemically about transformation while maintaining focus on individual learner experiences and outcomes.


Gianluca Musraca stressed the importance of multidisciplinary approaches and evidence-based policy-making, drawing on his experience with the AI for Gov project to emphasise the need for comprehensive understanding rather than superficial training.


Dorothea Schmidt-Klau highlighted the challenge of reaching disconnected populations and adapting to changing generational aspirations, noting that “young people are born with digital skills and have different aspirations that societies and teachers must learn to handle.”


Susan Teltscher reinforced the importance of lifelong learning and partnerships, emphasising that effective skills development requires recognising different starting points and learning needs across diverse populations.


## Conclusion


This comprehensive discussion revealed both the urgency and complexity of preparing the global workforce for an AI-driven future. The 70% skills change projection by 2030 established a clear timeline for action, whilst the various perspectives shared by panellists and audience participants highlighted the multifaceted nature of the challenge.


The strong consensus on key principles—particularly the need for partnerships, human-centred AI integration, and adaptive learning approaches—provides a solid foundation for collaborative action. However, the challenges around assessment, gender inclusion, reaching underserved populations, and policy development indicate that significant work remains.


The discussion demonstrated that effective workforce preparation for the digital future requires simultaneous action across multiple dimensions: individual skills development, institutional capacity building, policy framework updates, and international coordination. The collaborative tone and commitment to follow-up sessions suggest strong potential for translating these insights into concrete action that addresses both the technical and human dimensions of digital transformation.


Session transcript

Susan Teltscher: Dr. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schimdt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau,


Tom Wambeke: Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar,


Anupama Shekhar: Dr. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Janelle Monae, Dr. Janelle Monae, interesting, but there’s definitely challenges that come with that as well. Another data point that we’re seeing is with LinkedIn, with our LinkedIn data, when we kind of scan all of the LinkedIn profiles and our LinkedIn economic graph team has put together that talks about these changes in skills that we anticipate. And what we’re seeing is that by 2030, we’re anticipating that for all the jobs, for most jobs, by 2030, we’re going to see a 70% reduction in skills. So 70% change in skills that are needed for most jobs by 2030. So 70% change in skills needed for most jobs by 2030. So that’s a significant shift and a significant, you know, when we say future ready, that definition is constantly changing as well. And so I think what it means in terms of strategies, which was your question, especially as we think about what private sector can do to lean in. One big aspect of that, I think, is supporting innovative models. And I think innovation is key to keep up with that change, to keep up with the readiness changes. One example of something we’ve done to support innovative models is we’ve worked with an organization called Goodwall that is working across multiple countries. In Africa, they’ve set up a peer-to-peer learning platform to help young entrepreneurs be able to connect with each other, to be able to learn, you know, AI skills and get credentialed access as well from that, and be able to share and build a community. Dr. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, locally generated programs, but globally relevant programs. So locally, you know, generated, globally relevant programs. An example of where we’re doing that, we’re actually, you know, we’ve developed a lot of free learning curriculum, free learning content around AI, but also digital skills more broadly, that we’ve made available around the world, and we’ve localized into multiple, you know, cultural contexts, not just languages. And we’re actually developing new signature content as well for teachers, for civil society professionals, for government workers, to the points that were brought up earlier, to help equip government employees as well to gain access to some of those skills, again, building and structuring to local context. And then the third thing that I would say is actually related to the point that I think Dr. Gianluca, you made earlier. All of this can only happen through, not just by going directly to the learners and supporting their capacity, but by building the capacity of the systems that are doing this work. So whether it’s educational institutions. Dr. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, local approaches, globally relevant approaches, and then the third is building the capacity of the systems that are doing the work.


Tom Wambeke: Thanks a lot, Anu, for giving a more nuanced view on what we mean by future-ready, and if I look at all these different efforts, I have a question for Dorothea. How could these efforts also be scaled up in national labor policies, according to you?


Dorothea Schmidt-Klau: Thanks a lot. I think, and I said it before, and other speakers said it in other sessions, to scale things up and to make them sustainable, you need policies. You need policies to back up individual actions and interventions, to make them lasting and to make them repeatable and scalable. And for that, as I already said, inclusive national employment policies are ever so relevant. We see, as you said, many countries now have digitalization strategies. And you were saying, who are the stakeholders, who need to be on the table? Well, all the stakeholders you mentioned are already on the table when we develop employment strategies, employment frameworks. So it’s so easy to connect, because at the end of the day, what you are saying is part and partial of what we need for a successful employment strategy. And we actually do see in many countries that ministries of digitalization, or whatever they are called, are linking with ministries of employment because of the close connection of the two. So I think, if you want to scale up, make sure that all relevant strategies come together. the umbrella of National Employment Strategies or Comprehensive Employment Policy Frameworks. Now you might ask, is this actually happening? And in this regard, and people are always asking for examples, have a look at the youth guarantee schemes that we work with the EU in EU countries, in many Balkan countries. They exactly take this approach. They really make an effort that all perspectives when it comes to digitalization are included in the way forward. And they are also included in what follows after an employment strategy, which is the active labor market policies. Active labor market policies translate your ideas into practice, especially for those people who not automatically find a job because of new developments. So here we are talking about the young people who find it still very difficult, despite the fact that they have digital skills, they find it very difficult in their transition into labor markets to find a decent job immediately. Now we talk about being future ready. It’s not only the people who need to be future ready. It’s also our own international labor standards that need to be future ready. When you work for the ILO, it’s all about creating international labor standards, but it’s also about updating international labor standards. And we put a lot of effort into updating these international labor standards, particularly those related to skills. And there are new elements that were not there when the standards were created, but need to be added. And for example, this is, of course, the whole area of digitalization, digital skills. It’s also a lot about lifelong learning, because it’s not the first time that we find that all of a sudden the older workers need some skills that they were never trained on. And this would not have happened if we trained them all along their life, because then automatically digital skills would have come in at one certain point. It’s also about, you know, as we said already, updating those international labor standards that are linked to public employment services, because it’s a different thing they do now than they used to do in the past. Every single labor standard needs to be checked, whether it is still relevant, because at the end of the day, these international labor standards set the frame for how the transition to the digital economy takes place. And to make sure that there is nobody lost on the way, that this digitalization does not only lead to more jobs, but also to better jobs, because that’s the ultimate goal. And I just want to stress that in this endeavor, there are two elements that are super important. The one was already mentioned, and that’s the knowledge we need to have. And our AI Observatory is such a platform where we actually try to gather the knowledge and gather the data so that we can make sure that everybody profits from the information, not just the rich countries, but more particularly also the not so well-off countries. And the other thing I want to mention is actually partnerships that are so essential, okay? We as the UN, we don’t create a single digital job. We don’t skill a lot of young people, maybe some in some projects. But our goal is to be there, to set the frame, to make sure that the development goes into a direction that we want it to go and that we drive the development and not the development drives what’s happening to people. So I think this is very important. And for example, when it comes to partnerships, it’s very important that we have these public-private partnerships. And for example, our initiative, Decent Jobs for Youth, that one of our major partners is actually Microsoft. That really shows that then how we can translate these updated standards to having an impact. on the Sustainability Perspective and on the scalability discussion.


Tom Wambeke: I have one follow-up question for Susan. If you look at the regional or the cross-border level, what is currently being done to accelerate scale?


Susan Teltscher: A lot in short, but in long. In fact, there are so many players, they are all now focusing on digital and digital skills. You have heard it a lot. You hear it more and more now in the events like here, the WSIS, etc. And from the UN point of view, many, many UN organizations are now involved in providing skilling and training in their respective fields. We have worked closely with ILO, Dorothea, you mentioned the Decent Jobs for Youth initiative. In fact, this was when the ITU-ILO digital skills campaign was launched, which was in 2018. So many years ago already, we were trying to promote digital skilling and Microsoft, thank you very much, one of the main partners here, who has committed to train millions of youth in digital skills. We have now launched in ITU the AI Skills Coalition recently with a focus more on AI. Again, it’s also to promote the outreach of training and skilling in this field. But even, or especially also from the implementing point of view in ITU, the ITU Academy was mentioned earlier. So we have been training policy makers and professionals in this field for decades, and we run more than 150 courses on ITU Academy. for all countries every year. So that’s also a contribution to this in terms of scaling. And I wanted to mention another initiative that we have, our Digital Transformation Center initiative. This is trying to reach the population in the rural communities, in the underserved communities. And when we talk about scaling, this is one of the main challenges that we actually have. It’s much easier to scale if people are already connected. You reach them online and you can train them, et cetera, et cetera. But those that are in the underserved communities, they don’t have access to Internet at home. They don’t have a computer. They may have a phone, but that’s about it. So if you want to train them, how do you do that? You have to go out and reach them in their communities. You have to work with local community leaders. This is very resource intensive. So you may have this in your national government digital skills strategy, but you have to put also the resources to it, to actually go and reach those vulnerable groups who still make up a large proportion of the population who is not connected. So for scaling, that requires resources and partnerships. I fully echo what you said before. Without partnerships, we can’t reach it. Thank you.


Tom Wambeke: Thanks a lot, Susan. I’m actually doing an AI-infused transcription of this dialogue, and I see one of the patterns, of course. We are also in parallel at the AI for Good Summit. AI is one of the recurrent patterns in the semantic analysis of what I see here. If I connect it then with learning, Anu, like that’s maybe again another new challenge. If we connect AI and learning and being a learning specialist myself, there are as many opportunities as there are challenges. You know, what would your perspective be on that topic?


Anupama Shekhar: Yeah. Thank you for that question, because I think it’s an important question. I think we often. Dr. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, which is one of the largest teachers’ unions in the U.S., focused on building an A.I. academy, supporting teachers in building their A.I. skills and knowledge. So I think programs like this can really help create and transform the learning environment and put A.I. in its place. I think one last thing I want to highlight on the policy side of things, we’re working with TeachA.I., which is a large, global nonprofit organization that has actually built an A.I. literacy framework. So if you’re looking to kind of understand, again, with some of your programs, how to support policy work for teachers, this creates, this essentially has a framework of competencies that define A.I. literacy. What are some of the policy considerations that go into defining those policies, those competencies? And then what are some tactical ways in which teachers and learning environments can be supported in bringing A.I.?


Tom Wambeke: Thanks a lot, Anu. And indeed, a lot of these A.I. discourses are sometimes a bit dominated by looking for efficiencies in learning, a lot of focus on productivity, but your reflections take A.I. literacy beyond that. You know, you mentioned human skills communication, but also critical thinking and so on. Gianluca, if I ask the question to you, it’s not only about digital skills development that we’re talking here, but about the future in a way. What does A.I. mean for the future of skills development, according to you?


Gianluca Musraca: Well, I mean, coming here this morning, I was thinking that, you know, 20 years have passed since Tunisia. I was in Tunisia at WSAS. and the world has completely changed for the good and for the bad and really technology is actually dominating our lives. But then, I mean, Dorothea mentioned rightly so that policy is the issue, policymaking, but which kind of policies? The problem, we don’t have really evidence about what are the implications, the impact of these technologies yet on our societies. We see a lot of risk, a lot of opportunities also, but the policymakers are not really often in the position to really take the right decision. So we really need to, as Susan was saying, we really need to engage them, making sure that they learn also what we are talking about, because sometimes we are really talking about this as something magic and we think things will be changed for the good, but actually they are creating more problems than we thought. So evidence is important, but also actually we’re talking about the future. I was also looking at the future is here lemma of the summit, but what kind of futures we want and actually are we really meaning future? I mean, I’m first and foremost a futurist and foresight is also an art that we need to make sure is part of the toolkit of the policymakers and everybody. So you mentioned competence frameworks, I’ve been working with UNESCO in refining and improving their competence framework exactly to integrate the AI part that is completely unknown. We talk about AI literacy, but we’re not really touching yet the top of what we are going to have in the next few months. Look at what happened with RGPT, we were not prepared for that and now this is already past. The agentic AI phenomenon is already changing completely our organizations. So we have to prepare ourselves for that big change in some industry, this will be completely, some industry will be completely transformed. Dr. Gianluca Musraca, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorotea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorotea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar, we may actually end in a very dystopian future that we should try to avoid.


Tom Wambeke: Thanks a lot, Gianluca. And given the fact that the future is always uncertain, I think it’s a very valuable suggestion to find synergies between AI literacy and futures literacy, foresight literacy. Now, AI is always based upon, let’s say, co-creation of collective intelligence. We have done it already based upon the four experts. We are with 60 people in the room, so I would like to open up the floor and tap into your collective intelligence. What you have heard so far from our four panelists, are there any specific, let’s say, comments, questions, feedback that you would like to add to the discussion? I have two questions here or comments at the back.


Participant: Thank you so very much. My name is Valeska Guerrero. I’m an expert on sustainable infrastructure, but also very interested in how AI can support intelligence. I’m more like in the data perspective, but at the same time, I have, well, I use, I would say, AI on a daily basis in the sense of improving, you know, how productive I am on a day-to-day basis. For instance, maybe a work plan that you would take, I don’t know, like an entire day of doing it, you can probably do it in less time. But at the same time, I’m actually, I mean, I agree a lot with what Dr. Gianluca, sorry, your last name, okay, but I mean, it’s really, really critical in the sense that we cannot just rely on AI. I mean, at the same time, I think our skills, our know-how, for instance, my background is on international business, but also project management. So I wouldn’t know how a project plan would look like if I wouldn’t have studied that before. Saying so, I think it’s really relevant that we use both the…


Tom Wambeke: Thank you. It just occurs to me that apart from obviously we want to train the young


Participant: people and so forth, if you look around, between 15 to 20% of graduates in most developing countries are unemployed because the governments have not been able to get their act together if you like. These are smart young people, bright people. This is what I’m trying to do with a network of people in about 34 countries at the moment, where we are sharing knowledge across borders. But one of the things we’re trying to do is to work with local AI academies, not necessarily government universities, but even lower level, to train young people and to train them not just about AI and learning how to do content management or something, based on the Sustainable Development Goals. In every one of the Sustainable Development Goals, there’s at least, I reckon, between five to 10 startups which could actually make a huge difference. They could be real businesses for these young people. And at the same time, it helps us to tackle the problem that we all have and we haven’t been able to solve. I’ve spent four decades trying to solve the problem. I retired and then AI came along. And I’ve dived back in again because I see that in five years, I’ll probably be able to do what I could not do in 40 years of trying. So I think there’s a great opportunity.


Tom Wambeke: Thanks a lot.


Sarah-Jane Fox: Hello, Dr. Sarah-Jane Fox from the Institute for Digital Culture. And just to pick up on a few comments, particularly from the lady behind me. Do you see or would you anticipate that there’s a difficulty, particularly when we’re looking at higher education, and our students who are rapidly using AI, sorry, but they are rapidly using AI, and it’s very difficult to assess them. So they may have the skills, knowledge of AI in the workplace, but not necessarily the background knowledge that you alluded to, with regards to knowing the expertise that they require, i.e. for a doctor, for business management, for being a lawyer, all those different skills that we can’t assess where the AI has come in and written the essay for them. So is there perhaps from a higher education perspective or from an AI tool, an indicator that we can put in where that has been used, you know, a way of detecting where AI has been utilised in education. Otherwise, what we’re going to get is actually a workforce that we’re assessing only for their AI skills,


Tom Wambeke: and not for their actual knowledge. Thanks a lot, which brings me to this corner.


Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta: Hi, Cristina Cárdenas, Government Affairs in Coursera for Latin America and the Caribbean. And we have over 164 million students globally, 29 million belong to Latin America and the Caribbean. And we have 800 courses among 13,000 that we have for generative artificial intelligence. And we rotate the courses very often, like we have around 150 to 250 courses rotated every month from the same providers. And my question is, how are you doing to replace those in the ITU? Because the reason why they rotate the courses is because they have a lot of The reason why we update the courses is because the innovation is so fast that the producers of our content are replacing those contents. We have a lot of students demanding these courses, around 6.3 million students during the last year enrolled to Coursera to take those courses globally. And when the challenge is also the gender, we have only 32% of women taking those courses. So my questions are related to the replacement of courses here. How are you updating the courses that are changing all the time? And how are you doing to enroll more women in those fields? Thank you.


Tom Wambeke: Lots of questions and inputs and I’ve also been asked to close the digital divide as we have some people online here as well. So we have Nidhi Gopal who has also a final comment question before we go back to the panel. Nidhi, go ahead and unlock your microphone. Just unmute it as we don’t hear you right now. Yes, we can hear you right now. Yes.


Nidhi Gopal: Yeah, I just have one question. Does the International Labour Organization offer opportunities to the international candidates with a specialization in VLSI design, engineering and equipment with the latest skill set like AI and all and having six years of professional experience?


Tom Wambeke: Okay, thank you for this question, Nidhi. Targeted and to the point. So these were four or five different inputs and I’m also looking at the time here. We have about still seven minutes. So that allows more or less, let’s say almost two minutes for each panelist in which I would like to ask them if possible, maybe to address one or two of the questions that you have seen. But also we’re trying to extract something from this session. What are some of, let’s say, the key points that we need to take further into the conversations we already linked with some insights from the first session? I also would like to know which. key points we have to take further towards a call to action, what is urgent, what is needed. So these are the two entry points for your last two minutes pitch. And I would like to start with Anu and then


Anupama Shekhar: we just move on. Sure, thank you. So I want to address something that came up in terms of, you know, how do we help students, especially in higher ed institutions, how do we help them gain some of those responsibility skills to be able to use AI and use the tools in a responsible way. And also from an educator standpoint, how do we help them assess the students, you know, in the most accurate and safest way. I know that from, I think one big aspect of that is in building into some of these competency frameworks, building into the curriculum that we offer, the human skills, the responsible AI skills being a big, big proportion of what we teach students today. And then also what we’re hearing, we actually have a group of academic scholars that we work with. And what I was hearing from them is that the way that they’re assessing is also changing, they’re kind of adapting that in this new world. And there’s a lot more hands on assessment, there’s a bigger proportion of the sort of the grade that’s coming from the assessment. So we’re starting to see some trends in that direction as well. But I think there’s much more work to be done in this space. And I think there’s a lot of collective work that we need to do together to figure that out. I just want to I know you had sort of a question on call to action to the group. And I want to end by saying, I think for the best thing we can do is to probably dream big and dream small. And what I mean by that is, you know, what the point I was making earlier in terms of building the capacity of the the ecosystems, the systems that are doing this work, that’s the dream big part. And whether it’s through the skills coalition from the ITU, or some of the innovative programs that the ILO is running, like the Women in Digital Business Program, so dreaming big. But also Dreaming Small, thinking, you know, when we’re designing these programs, thinking about the individual teachers and the students and the learners that are going through the programs and designing the programs with each of their experiences in mind. And another way that I mean Dream Big and Dream Small is, you know, we have these big groups where we come together in panels, but let’s also follow up in Dream Small with smaller group conversations. Let’s take these actions forward and work towards solving some of these challenges and problems that we’re raising today.


Tom Wambeke: Thanks a lot, Anu. Gianluca, are you Dreaming Big, Dreaming Small?


Gianluca Musraca: Well, let me say, of course, I’m trying to link the different questions and comments. I fully agree with the colleagues on the back that, I mean, the issue here is about multidisciplinarity and it’s not just about the technical skills. So, you know, I was last week in a big conference and someone made a big announcement. We are training millions of civil servants on AI. They will all learn how to prompt. OK, so, well, maybe it’s not enough. We need to look at the procurement issues, how we manage the big change of the digital transformation. And this brings also to the comment on the back, also on the need to involve the youngest there, but also the startups. And there is a big movement about also GovTech when it comes to, you know, changing also the way we design and deliver public services and where artificial intelligence and other technologies can actually help a lot. But this is not enough. And I think Susan mentioned really the key word, Accelerate. And this is actually the name of my new project, AI for GovAccelerate or AI for GovX. That is, I mean, it’s a 20 million euro funded project by the EU, part of the half billion that the EU is funding on digital skills and especially on AI, but not only. And, I mean, these and other projects I’m involved in now are also… and Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau. I’m going to start with a brief introduction of the AI. I’m going to start with a brief introduction of the AI. I’m going to start with a brief introduction of the AI. I’m going to start with a brief introduction of the AI. The first thing I’m going to do is to try to look at how we change the approach. I mean, the lady from Coursera is an example of how we should do things in order to have micro-credentials approach and exactly make sure that we can adapt with different modular approaches, the skills developments we have. We cannot just have, you know, a training that we use forever and for everybody. We need to be really, to have personalized training and AI can also help us in that. Then sometimes I say, oh, we are training people on AI. We have a 30-minute course. Okay, well, that’s maybe not enough. And that’s where we need also to make sure that academics are really involved and we have credentials and quality certifications. Otherwise, you risk to make more problems than create, you know, a better equipped workforce. Just to conclude on that, we also have to make sure that linking the interdisciplinary approach with also the new needs of governments and society, we can scale this up. So in our program, we are aiming at, and that’s maybe the dreaming, the small and the big. We had the AI for Gov pilot we have done now. We are entering the fifth edition, self-sustainable, and we don’t need any more funding from the EU. We have trained 200 people, but they’re all actually at the highest level. I don’t know, now working in the AI office of the EU or in a different government. And so they are creating the ecosystem. Now we are aiming at training thousands of people. But then now hopefully we’re partnering with ITU and UNESCO and we can try and train millions of people all over the world using the approach that we have that is also experiential learning. It’s not just a training on theories or on techniques, but actually how we use data. Someone mentioned the importance of data, otherwise AI is useless. We need to know how we use the data, which data to use, and then how we can use this data and artificial intelligence technologies to make a transformation of our governance and our societies.


Tom Wambeke: Thank you Gianluca for this. Insightful prompts for follow-up. Moving to Dorothea, your key takeaways.


Dorothea Schmidt-Klau: Thank you very much. And I tried to answer some of the questions. Unfortunately, the one coming from the online participant, I need to refer to HR, to our human resource department to discuss it further. But I can tell you that, you know, young and already experienced colleagues are driving our AI agenda and are pushing us older people to really make use of it. What I wanted to say is first to the question regarding the unemployment. Well, unfortunately, the unemployment is only the tip of the iceberg. The real, real problem is all these young people, the so-called needs that are not in education, not in employment, not in training. They are lost. We don’t even know where they sit. And it’s really, really dangerous that this highly qualified generation and especially this highly qualified female generation, because it’s much worse for women than for men, is lost somewhere and we are not using their potential. So I absolutely agree. And having young people that have the skills opening their own businesses is certainly one of the important approaches that is actually anchored in literally every employment policy. I also wanted to say something about your point, the teachers, you know, the importance of teachers. Well, we do have to equip them with the skills to teach what young people need to know. But we also have to equip them and societies with the means to handle a completely different new generation. The young people, they come, they are born with digital skills, sorry to say it. You know, they grow up with it. We now often have the situation that they have more knowledge on technology than actually the teachers have. And with this comes a complete new set of aspirations. Young people today have very different aspirations and we need to learn as societies and as teachers to actually handle these new aspirations. Ms. Susan Teltscher, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau, Ms. Anupama Shekhar Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau Dr. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau Ms. Anupama Shekhar, Dr. Dorothea Schmidt-Klau


Tom Wambeke: Susan, you have the honor to close the loop.


Susan Teltscher: Great. So I think dreaming big is good, but dreaming by itself is not sufficient. So let’s look at what can be done. And maybe first to answer Christina’s question or answering, I mean, we can have a dialogue on this, but we are both in the business of delivering, so that’s good. We are actually doing things to train people. And yeah, it is definitely very important in terms of the updating. You referred to that of what we are training and the courses, et cetera. And this is certainly something that we do on ITU Academy. Most of our courses are not recurrent. We do have, but in fact, a lot of the courses are created when they are put up. So in terms of the adaptation and the updating, it’s a very important part. We are also looking into other ways of moving away from the traditional courses into micro credentials and modules and micro learning. So this is something we are also trying to do on the platform to scale and to reach out and to adapt to the ways of learning. But coming back to our discussion here, and there’s a few things I think are really good to also for us to take away at the end. One is on the lifelong learning that was mentioned by several people. I think you also talked again about everybody who is born today comes with digital skills. Okay, what does that mean? And what does it mean for those who are not born today? And we sometimes forget this other part of the population who needs to also catch up with what’s going on and actually may need a lot more attention than than what we think. So the lifelong learning is very important. The other one is also, there was a lot of talk about soft skills. And this is, I think everybody knows, it’s been raised in many, many forums, etc. But it’s important to not just look at AI skills, but actually, how does the use of AI impact on other skills and knowledge, especially what we have heard? And how do we should also not forget about that? Because by using the technologies, are we then forgetting other skills? Or do we need to retrain on other skills and the communication part? And where does where does the knowledge base go? So these are also important aspects, I think in the future, we’ll get a lot more attention, especially in the education system. So at the end, partnerships, we talked about partnerships, let’s also end with partnerships, because that’s something that has worked very well in the past, we are here also working together. And that’s what we at ITU do, as well. And if I may say that we have a session at two o’clock, where we talk more about the work in ITU on skills development. And if anybody’s interested in partnering, come and talk to us. We are very interested in, in expanding on that and reaching


Tom Wambeke: out. Thank you very much. Thanks a lot, Susan. And indeed, let’s continue the conversation. There’s also at two o’clock, some ILO colleagues will also present their things. So it’s a partnership. So I wanted to make sure that there was a balance in there. But let me also thank you, because as a moderator, it was a pleasure to do this. So far, I’m not yet replaced by my own digital twin, not yet. But I must admit that my digital twin helped me a lot to prepare this session. So Susan, Gianluca, Dorothea, and Anu, thanks a lot. I would say keep up the momentum and a round of applause for the panel and the participants. It’s going to be very interesting, my colleagues are managing it, so it’s going to be great to be able to do that.


A

Anupama Shekhar

Speech speed

191 words per minute

Speech length

1148 words

Speech time

360 seconds

70% of skills needed for most jobs will change by 2030, requiring constant adaptation of “future ready” definitions

Explanation

Based on LinkedIn data analysis, there will be a massive transformation in job requirements within this decade. This significant shift means that the definition of being “future ready” is constantly evolving and organizations must continuously adapt their training and preparation strategies.


Evidence

LinkedIn economic graph team data showing 70% change in skills needed for most jobs by 2030


Major discussion point

Future-Ready Skills and Workforce Transformation


Topics

Future of work | Online education | Capacity development


Agreed with

– Gianluca Musraca
– Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta

Agreed on

Rapid technological change requires adaptive and modular training approaches


Private sector should support innovative models like peer-to-peer learning platforms for young entrepreneurs

Explanation

Innovation is key to keeping up with rapid changes in skill requirements. Supporting new learning models helps young entrepreneurs connect, learn AI skills, get credentialed access, and build communities that can adapt to evolving needs.


Evidence

Partnership with Goodwall organization creating peer-to-peer learning platforms across multiple countries in Africa for young entrepreneurs to learn AI skills


Major discussion point

Future-Ready Skills and Workforce Transformation


Topics

Future of work | Online education | Capacity development


Need for locally generated but globally relevant programs with cultural localization beyond just language translation

Explanation

Effective skills development requires programs that are created within local contexts but maintain global relevance. This approach goes beyond simple language translation to include cultural adaptation that makes learning more effective and accessible.


Evidence

Development of free AI and digital skills curriculum localized into multiple cultural contexts, not just languages, and new content for teachers, civil society professionals, and government workers


Major discussion point

Future-Ready Skills and Workforce Transformation


Topics

Online education | Cultural diversity | Multilingualism


Importance of building capacity in educational institutions and systems that deliver training, not just direct learner support

Explanation

Sustainable skills development requires strengthening the entire ecosystem of educational institutions and systems. Rather than only focusing on individual learners, building institutional capacity ensures long-term effectiveness and scalability of training programs.


Evidence

Emphasis on building capacity of educational institutions and systems as the third key strategy alongside innovative models and locally relevant programs


Major discussion point

Future-Ready Skills and Workforce Transformation


Topics

Online education | Capacity development | Interdisciplinary approaches


Agreed with

– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau
– Susan Teltscher

Agreed on

Partnerships are essential for scaling digital skills initiatives


AI should enhance rather than replace human skills, with emphasis on communication, critical thinking, and responsible AI use

Explanation

The integration of AI in learning should complement and strengthen human capabilities rather than substitute them. This approach prioritizes developing critical thinking, communication skills, and responsible AI usage to ensure learners can effectively collaborate with AI tools.


Evidence

Programs focusing on building AI literacy framework and supporting teachers in developing both AI skills and human skills like communication and critical thinking


Major discussion point

AI Integration in Education and Learning


Topics

Online education | Human rights principles | Future of work


Agreed with

– Susan Teltscher
– Tom Wambeke

Agreed on

AI should complement rather than replace human capabilities


Partnership with teachers’ unions to build AI academies helps transform learning environments appropriately

Explanation

Collaborating with established educational organizations like teachers’ unions ensures that AI integration in education is done thoughtfully and systematically. These partnerships help create proper training programs that support educators in developing AI competencies.


Evidence

Partnership with one of the largest teachers’ unions in the U.S. to build an AI academy focused on supporting teachers in building AI skills and knowledge


Major discussion point

AI Integration in Education and Learning


Topics

Online education | Capacity development | Future of work


AI literacy frameworks provide competency definitions and policy considerations for educational implementation

Explanation

Structured frameworks are essential for defining what AI literacy means and how it should be implemented in educational settings. These frameworks help policymakers and educators understand the competencies needed and provide tactical guidance for implementation.


Evidence

Collaboration with TeachAI, a global nonprofit organization that built an AI literacy framework defining competencies, policy considerations, and tactical implementation methods for teachers


Major discussion point

AI Integration in Education and Learning


Topics

Online education | Digital standards | Capacity development


Disagreed with

– Gianluca Musraca

Disagreed on

Speed and depth of AI training for policymakers


D

Dorothea Schmidt-Klau

Speech speed

137 words per minute

Speech length

1191 words

Speech time

519 seconds

Inclusive national employment policies are essential to scale up and make digital skills initiatives sustainable

Explanation

Individual actions and interventions need policy backing to become lasting, repeatable, and scalable. National employment policies provide the necessary framework to connect digitalization strategies with employment outcomes and ensure sustainability.


Evidence

Many countries now have digitalization strategies, and ministries of digitalization are linking with ministries of employment due to their close connection


Major discussion point

Policy Frameworks and National Strategies


Topics

Future of work | Digital business models | Capacity development


Youth guarantee schemes in EU and Balkan countries demonstrate successful integration of digitalization perspectives into employment strategies

Explanation

These schemes show how digitalization can be effectively incorporated into comprehensive employment policy frameworks. They include all relevant perspectives on digitalization and translate them into active labor market policies that help young people transition into decent jobs.


Evidence

Youth guarantee schemes worked on with the EU in EU countries and many Balkan countries that include digitalization perspectives in employment strategies and active labor market policies


Major discussion point

Policy Frameworks and National Strategies


Topics

Future of work | Capacity development | Inclusive finance


International labor standards need updating to include digitalization, digital skills, and lifelong learning components

Explanation

Existing international labor standards must be modernized to address new realities of the digital economy. This includes adding elements like digital skills, lifelong learning, and updated public employment services to ensure standards remain relevant and effective.


Evidence

ILO efforts to update international labor standards related to skills, digitalization, lifelong learning, and public employment services, with AI Observatory as a platform for knowledge gathering


Major discussion point

Policy Frameworks and National Strategies


Topics

Future of work | Digital standards | Human rights principles


Public-private partnerships are essential, with examples like the Decent Jobs for Youth initiative partnering with Microsoft

Explanation

The UN and international organizations cannot create digital jobs or train large numbers of people alone. Partnerships with private sector companies are crucial for translating updated standards into real impact and reaching scale in skills development.


Evidence

Decent Jobs for Youth initiative with Microsoft as a major partner, demonstrating how public-private partnerships can translate updated standards into impact


Major discussion point

Scaling and Partnerships


Topics

Future of work | Digital business models | Capacity development


Agreed with

– Anupama Shekhar
– Susan Teltscher

Agreed on

Partnerships are essential for scaling digital skills initiatives


Older workers need continuous skill updates throughout their careers to avoid sudden obsolescence

Explanation

The current situation where older workers suddenly need skills they were never trained on could be prevented through lifelong learning approaches. If workers were trained continuously throughout their careers, digital skills would naturally be integrated at appropriate points.


Evidence

Current situation where older workers need digital skills they were never trained on, which could be avoided through lifelong learning approaches


Major discussion point

Lifelong Learning and Generational Shifts


Topics

Future of work | Online education | Capacity development


Agreed with

– Susan Teltscher

Agreed on

Lifelong learning is crucial for workforce adaptation


Young qualified women face worse unemployment than men, representing lost potential in the workforce

Explanation

There is a significant gender disparity in employment outcomes, with highly qualified women experiencing worse unemployment rates than their male counterparts. This represents a dangerous loss of potential from a highly skilled generation that societies are failing to utilize.


Evidence

Unemployment being only the tip of the iceberg, with the real problem being NEETs (not in education, employment, or training) who are lost, and it being much worse for women than men


Major discussion point

Gender and Inclusion Challenges


Topics

Gender rights online | Future of work | Inclusive finance


Need to address NEETs (not in education, employment, or training) who are completely disconnected from systems

Explanation

Beyond visible unemployment statistics, there’s a more serious problem of young people who are completely disconnected from education, employment, and training systems. These individuals represent lost potential and pose societal risks if their skills and capabilities remain unutilized.


Evidence

NEETs (not in education, employment, or training) are lost and unknown, representing a highly qualified generation whose potential is not being used


Major discussion point

Gender and Inclusion Challenges


Topics

Future of work | Inclusive finance | Digital access


Young people are born with digital skills and have different aspirations that societies and teachers must learn to handle

Explanation

The current generation grows up with technology and often has more technological knowledge than their teachers. This creates a new dynamic where educational systems and societies must adapt to handle different aspirations and learning approaches of digitally native students.


Evidence

Young people are born with digital skills, often having more technology knowledge than teachers, and come with completely new sets of aspirations


Major discussion point

Lifelong Learning and Generational Shifts


Topics

Online education | Digital identities | Future of work


Disagreed with

– Susan Teltscher

Disagreed on

Generational digital skills assumptions


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Susan Teltscher

Speech speed

153 words per minute

Speech length

1046 words

Speech time

408 seconds

Multiple UN organizations now focus on digital skills training, with ITU Academy running over 150 courses annually for all countries

Explanation

There is widespread recognition across UN organizations of the importance of digital skills development. The ITU Academy represents a significant contribution to this effort by providing extensive training opportunities for policymakers and professionals globally.


Evidence

ITU Academy running more than 150 courses for all countries every year, training policy makers and professionals for decades


Major discussion point

Scaling and Partnerships


Topics

Online education | Capacity development | Digital standards


Reaching underserved rural communities without internet access requires resource-intensive community-based approaches and local partnerships

Explanation

Scaling digital skills training faces significant challenges when targeting underserved communities that lack basic connectivity and devices. These populations require direct, community-based interventions that are much more resource-intensive than online training approaches.


Evidence

Digital Transformation Center initiative to reach rural and underserved communities who don’t have internet access at home or computers, requiring going out to communities and working with local leaders


Major discussion point

Scaling and Partnerships


Topics

Digital access | Capacity development | Telecommunications infrastructure


Agreed with

– Anupama Shekhar
– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau

Agreed on

Partnerships are essential for scaling digital skills initiatives


Lifelong learning is crucial for those not born into the digital age who need to catch up with technological developments

Explanation

While younger generations may have innate digital skills, older populations require focused attention and support to catch up with technological developments. Lifelong learning approaches are essential to ensure these groups are not left behind in the digital transformation.


Evidence

Recognition that not everyone is born with digital skills and that other parts of the population need to catch up with technological developments


Major discussion point

Lifelong Learning and Generational Shifts


Topics

Online education | Digital access | Future of work


Agreed with

– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau

Agreed on

Lifelong learning is crucial for workforce adaptation


Disagreed with

– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau

Disagreed on

Generational digital skills assumptions


Balance needed between using AI tools and maintaining fundamental knowledge and soft skills

Explanation

The integration of AI in education and work raises important questions about how technology use impacts other essential skills and knowledge. There’s a risk that reliance on AI tools might lead to the erosion of fundamental capabilities, requiring careful attention to maintaining a balance.


Evidence

Questions about how AI use impacts other skills and knowledge, especially communication, and whether using technologies causes people to forget other skills


Major discussion point

Lifelong Learning and Generational Shifts


Topics

Online education | Human rights principles | Future of work


Agreed with

– Anupama Shekhar
– Tom Wambeke

Agreed on

AI should complement rather than replace human capabilities


G

Gianluca Musraca

Speech speed

166 words per minute

Speech length

1075 words

Speech time

386 seconds

Evidence-based policymaking is crucial as policymakers often lack understanding of AI implications and need engagement and education

Explanation

Policymakers are frequently not equipped to make informed decisions about AI and digital technologies due to insufficient understanding of their implications. Without proper evidence and education, there’s a risk of creating policies that cause more problems than they solve.


Evidence

Observation that policymakers are often not in position to make right decisions about AI implications, and sometimes 30-minute AI training courses are insufficient for proper understanding


Major discussion point

Policy Frameworks and National Strategies


Topics

Future of work | Digital standards | Human rights principles


Disagreed with

– Anupama Shekhar

Disagreed on

Speed and depth of AI training for policymakers


Agentic AI phenomenon is transforming organizations faster than anticipated, requiring preparation for industry transformation

Explanation

The rapid evolution of AI technology, from ChatGPT to agentic AI, is happening faster than expected and will completely transform some industries. Organizations and societies need to prepare for these dramatic changes to avoid negative outcomes.


Evidence

Example of how ChatGPT caught everyone unprepared and is now already past, with agentic AI phenomenon already changing organizations completely


Major discussion point

Rapid Technological Change and Adaptation


Topics

Future of work | Digital business models | Interdisciplinary approaches


Need for multidisciplinary approaches beyond technical skills, including procurement, change management, and public service delivery

Explanation

Effective AI implementation requires more than just technical training like prompting. It demands understanding of procurement processes, change management, digital transformation, and how to redesign and deliver public services using new technologies.


Evidence

Criticism of announcements about training millions of civil servants only on prompting, emphasizing need for procurement, change management, and GovTech approaches to public service delivery


Major discussion point

Rapid Technological Change and Adaptation


Topics

Future of work | Digital business models | Capacity development


Modular, personalized training approaches with micro-credentials are necessary to adapt to diverse skill development needs

Explanation

Traditional one-size-fits-all training approaches are inadequate for the rapidly changing AI landscape. Personalized, modular training with micro-credentials allows for better adaptation to individual needs and faster response to technological changes.


Evidence

AI for GovAccelerate project funded by EU with 20 million euros, part of half billion EU funding for digital skills, using modular micro-credentials approach and experiential learning


Major discussion point

Rapid Technological Change and Adaptation


Topics

Online education | Digital standards | Capacity development


Agreed with

– Anupama Shekhar
– Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta

Agreed on

Rapid technological change requires adaptive and modular training approaches


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Participant

Speech speed

162 words per minute

Speech length

415 words

Speech time

153 seconds

Cross-border knowledge sharing networks can help unemployed graduates in developing countries create AI-based startups addressing SDGs

Explanation

There’s significant untapped potential among unemployed graduates in developing countries who could be trained in AI and supported to create businesses addressing Sustainable Development Goals. Cross-border knowledge sharing networks can facilitate this by connecting local AI academies and providing startup opportunities.


Evidence

Network operating in 34 countries working with local AI academies to train young people, with 5-10 potential startups identified for each SDG that could make significant business and social impact


Major discussion point

Scaling and Partnerships


Topics

Future of work | Sustainable development | Digital business models


S

Sarah-Jane Fox

Speech speed

163 words per minute

Speech length

184 words

Speech time

67 seconds

Assessment methods in higher education must adapt to detect AI usage while ensuring students develop actual expertise, not just AI skills

Explanation

Higher education faces a critical challenge where students are rapidly adopting AI tools, making traditional assessment methods inadequate. There’s a risk of graduating students who have AI skills but lack the fundamental knowledge and expertise required for their professional fields.


Evidence

Students rapidly using AI making assessment difficult, with concern about graduates having AI skills but lacking background knowledge in their fields like medicine, business management, or law


Major discussion point

AI Integration in Education and Learning


Topics

Online education | Future of work | Digital standards


M

Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta

Speech speed

152 words per minute

Speech length

198 words

Speech time

77 seconds

Course content requires constant updating due to fast AI innovation, with platforms rotating 150-250 courses monthly

Explanation

The rapid pace of AI innovation necessitates frequent updates to educational content. Platforms must continuously rotate and refresh their course offerings to keep up with technological advances and meet student demand for current information.


Evidence

Coursera with 164 million students globally, 800 AI courses among 13,000 total, rotating 150-250 courses monthly due to fast innovation, with 6.3 million students enrolled in AI courses last year


Major discussion point

Rapid Technological Change and Adaptation


Topics

Online education | Digital standards | Future of work


Agreed with

– Anupama Shekhar
– Gianluca Musraca

Agreed on

Rapid technological change requires adaptive and modular training approaches


Only 32% of women enroll in AI courses globally, indicating significant gender gaps in AI education

Explanation

There is a substantial gender disparity in AI education participation, with women significantly underrepresented in AI course enrollment. This gap represents a critical challenge for achieving inclusive AI development and workforce diversity.


Evidence

Only 32% of women taking AI courses on Coursera platform globally, despite having 29 million students from Latin America and Caribbean region


Major discussion point

Gender and Inclusion Challenges


Topics

Gender rights online | Online education | Future of work


T

Tom Wambeke

Speech speed

155 words per minute

Speech length

819 words

Speech time

316 seconds

AI-infused transcription and semantic analysis can identify patterns in real-time discussions

Explanation

AI tools can be used to analyze ongoing conversations and identify recurring themes and patterns. This demonstrates practical application of AI in facilitating and understanding complex multi-stakeholder discussions.


Evidence

Using AI-infused transcription of the dialogue and noting AI as a recurrent pattern in semantic analysis during the AI for Good Summit


Major discussion point

AI Integration in Education and Learning


Topics

Online education | Digital standards | Future of work


AI literacy should extend beyond efficiency and productivity to include human skills like communication and critical thinking

Explanation

While AI discussions often focus on improving efficiency and productivity in learning, there’s a need to broaden the scope to include essential human capabilities. AI literacy frameworks should encompass critical thinking, communication skills, and other human-centered competencies that complement technological tools.


Evidence

Observation that AI discourses are dominated by looking for efficiencies and productivity focus, but reflections should take AI literacy beyond that to include human skills communication and critical thinking


Major discussion point

AI Integration in Education and Learning


Topics

Online education | Human rights principles | Future of work


Agreed with

– Anupama Shekhar
– Susan Teltscher

Agreed on

AI should complement rather than replace human capabilities


Collective intelligence and co-creation approaches can enhance AI-based discussions and decision-making

Explanation

AI systems work best when combined with human collective intelligence and collaborative approaches. Rather than relying solely on expert panels, tapping into broader group intelligence can improve the quality and relevance of AI-related discussions and outcomes.


Evidence

Opening discussion to 60 people in the room to tap into collective intelligence, noting that AI is based on co-creation of collective intelligence


Major discussion point

AI Integration in Education and Learning


Topics

Online education | Interdisciplinary approaches | Future of work


Synergies between AI literacy and futures literacy can help address uncertainty in technological development

Explanation

Given the inherent uncertainty in future technological developments, combining AI literacy with foresight and futures literacy can provide valuable frameworks for preparation. This interdisciplinary approach helps individuals and organizations better navigate rapid technological change.


Evidence

Suggestion to find synergies between AI literacy and futures literacy, foresight literacy, given that the future is always uncertain


Major discussion point

Rapid Technological Change and Adaptation


Topics

Online education | Future of work | Interdisciplinary approaches


Digital twins and AI assistants are becoming practical tools for professional preparation and productivity

Explanation

AI tools are increasingly being integrated into professional workflows, with digital twins and AI assistants helping with preparation and productivity tasks. This represents a practical example of how AI is already transforming work processes, even for roles like moderation that might seem traditionally human-centered.


Evidence

Personal example of not yet being replaced by digital twin as moderator, but digital twin helped prepare the session


Major discussion point

AI Integration in Education and Learning


Topics

Future of work | Digital identities | Online education


Agreements

Agreement points

Partnerships are essential for scaling digital skills initiatives

Speakers

– Anupama Shekhar
– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau
– Susan Teltscher

Arguments

Importance of building capacity in educational institutions and systems that deliver training, not just direct learner support


Public-private partnerships are essential, with examples like the Decent Jobs for Youth initiative partnering with Microsoft


Reaching underserved rural communities without internet access requires resource-intensive community-based approaches and local partnerships


Summary

All three speakers emphasized that effective scaling of digital skills development cannot be achieved by individual organizations alone and requires collaborative partnerships between public and private sectors, educational institutions, and community organizations.


Topics

Capacity development | Future of work | Digital access


Lifelong learning is crucial for workforce adaptation

Speakers

– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau
– Susan Teltscher

Arguments

Older workers need continuous skill updates throughout their careers to avoid sudden obsolescence


Lifelong learning is crucial for those not born into the digital age who need to catch up with technological developments


Summary

Both speakers agreed that continuous learning throughout one’s career is essential to prevent skill obsolescence and ensure all generations can adapt to technological changes.


Topics

Future of work | Online education | Capacity development


AI should complement rather than replace human capabilities

Speakers

– Anupama Shekhar
– Susan Teltscher
– Tom Wambeke

Arguments

AI should enhance rather than replace human skills, with emphasis on communication, critical thinking, and responsible AI use


Balance needed between using AI tools and maintaining fundamental knowledge and soft skills


AI literacy should extend beyond efficiency and productivity to include human skills like communication and critical thinking


Summary

There was strong consensus that AI integration should strengthen human capabilities rather than substitute them, with particular emphasis on maintaining critical thinking, communication skills, and fundamental knowledge.


Topics

Online education | Human rights principles | Future of work


Rapid technological change requires adaptive and modular training approaches

Speakers

– Anupama Shekhar
– Gianluca Musraca
– Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta

Arguments

70% of skills needed for most jobs will change by 2030, requiring constant adaptation of “future ready” definitions


Modular, personalized training approaches with micro-credentials are necessary to adapt to diverse skill development needs


Course content requires constant updating due to fast AI innovation, with platforms rotating 150-250 courses monthly


Summary

All speakers recognized that the rapid pace of technological change necessitates flexible, modular, and continuously updated training approaches rather than traditional static educational models.


Topics

Online education | Future of work | Digital standards


Similar viewpoints

Both speakers emphasized the importance of creating frameworks that are locally contextualized but globally applicable, whether in educational programs or international standards.

Speakers

– Anupama Shekhar
– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau

Arguments

Need for locally generated but globally relevant programs with cultural localization beyond just language translation


International labor standards need updating to include digitalization, digital skills, and lifelong learning components


Topics

Online education | Cultural diversity | Digital standards


Both speakers highlighted significant gender disparities in digital skills and employment, with women being underrepresented and facing greater challenges in accessing opportunities.

Speakers

– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau
– Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta

Arguments

Young qualified women face worse unemployment than men, representing lost potential in the workforce


Only 32% of women enroll in AI courses globally, indicating significant gender gaps in AI education


Topics

Gender rights online | Future of work | Online education


Both speakers stressed that effective AI integration requires comprehensive approaches that go beyond technical training to include broader competencies and proper evaluation methods.

Speakers

– Gianluca Musraca
– Sarah-Jane Fox

Arguments

Need for multidisciplinary approaches beyond technical skills, including procurement, change management, and public service delivery


Assessment methods in higher education must adapt to detect AI usage while ensuring students develop actual expertise, not just AI skills


Topics

Online education | Future of work | Digital standards


Unexpected consensus

Generational skills gap and role reversal in digital knowledge

Speakers

– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau
– Susan Teltscher

Arguments

Young people are born with digital skills and have different aspirations that societies and teachers must learn to handle


Lifelong learning is crucial for those not born into the digital age who need to catch up with technological developments


Explanation

There was unexpected consensus on the role reversal where younger generations often have more technological knowledge than their teachers, requiring educational systems to adapt to handle different learning dynamics and aspirations.


Topics

Online education | Digital identities | Future of work


Evidence-based policy making challenges

Speakers

– Gianluca Musraca
– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau

Arguments

Evidence-based policymaking is crucial as policymakers often lack understanding of AI implications and need engagement and education


Inclusive national employment policies are essential to scale up and make digital skills initiatives sustainable


Explanation

Both speakers unexpectedly converged on the challenge that policymakers often lack sufficient understanding of digital technologies to make effective policies, requiring better education and evidence-based approaches.


Topics

Future of work | Digital standards | Human rights principles


Overall assessment

Summary

The speakers demonstrated strong consensus on key principles including the need for partnerships, lifelong learning, human-centered AI integration, and adaptive training approaches. There was also agreement on challenges such as gender gaps, generational differences, and policy-making difficulties.


Consensus level

High level of consensus with complementary rather than conflicting viewpoints. The speakers represented different sectors (private, international organizations, academia) but shared similar values about inclusive, sustainable, and human-centered approaches to digital skills development. This strong alignment suggests a mature understanding of the challenges and potential collaborative solutions for digital skills development in the AI era.


Differences

Different viewpoints

Speed and depth of AI training for policymakers

Speakers

– Gianluca Musraca
– Anupama Shekhar

Arguments

Evidence-based policymaking is crucial as policymakers often lack understanding of AI implications and need engagement and education


AI literacy frameworks provide competency definitions and policy considerations for educational implementation


Summary

Gianluca criticizes superficial AI training (30-minute courses) and emphasizes the need for deep, evidence-based understanding, while Anupama focuses on structured frameworks and competency-based approaches that can be more systematically implemented


Topics

Digital standards | Future of work | Capacity development


Generational digital skills assumptions

Speakers

– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau
– Susan Teltscher

Arguments

Young people are born with digital skills and have different aspirations that societies and teachers must learn to handle


Lifelong learning is crucial for those not born into the digital age who need to catch up with technological developments


Summary

Dorothea assumes young people are naturally born with digital skills, while Susan questions this assumption and emphasizes that not everyone has innate digital capabilities, requiring more nuanced approaches to lifelong learning


Topics

Online education | Digital access | Future of work


Unexpected differences

Role of partnerships in scaling solutions

Speakers

– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau
– Susan Teltscher

Arguments

Public-private partnerships are essential, with examples like the Decent Jobs for Youth initiative partnering with Microsoft


Reaching underserved rural communities without internet access requires resource-intensive community-based approaches and local partnerships


Explanation

While both advocate for partnerships, they have different perspectives on their role. Dorothea sees partnerships as essential for translating standards into impact at scale, while Susan emphasizes the resource-intensive nature and challenges of partnerships, particularly for reaching underserved communities


Topics

Capacity development | Digital access | Future of work


Overall assessment

Summary

The discussion shows relatively low levels of direct disagreement, with most conflicts being subtle differences in emphasis and approach rather than fundamental opposition. Main areas of disagreement include the depth versus breadth of AI training, assumptions about generational digital skills, and implementation strategies for scaling solutions.


Disagreement level

Low to moderate disagreement level. The speakers generally share common goals around digital skills development, AI integration, and inclusive access, but differ on implementation strategies, assumptions about target populations, and the appropriate depth of training. These disagreements are constructive and reflect different professional perspectives rather than fundamental conflicts, suggesting good potential for collaborative solutions.


Partial agreements

Partial agreements

Similar viewpoints

Both speakers emphasized the importance of creating frameworks that are locally contextualized but globally applicable, whether in educational programs or international standards.

Speakers

– Anupama Shekhar
– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau

Arguments

Need for locally generated but globally relevant programs with cultural localization beyond just language translation


International labor standards need updating to include digitalization, digital skills, and lifelong learning components


Topics

Online education | Cultural diversity | Digital standards


Both speakers highlighted significant gender disparities in digital skills and employment, with women being underrepresented and facing greater challenges in accessing opportunities.

Speakers

– Dorothea Schmidt-Klau
– Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta

Arguments

Young qualified women face worse unemployment than men, representing lost potential in the workforce


Only 32% of women enroll in AI courses globally, indicating significant gender gaps in AI education


Topics

Gender rights online | Future of work | Online education


Both speakers stressed that effective AI integration requires comprehensive approaches that go beyond technical training to include broader competencies and proper evaluation methods.

Speakers

– Gianluca Musraca
– Sarah-Jane Fox

Arguments

Need for multidisciplinary approaches beyond technical skills, including procurement, change management, and public service delivery


Assessment methods in higher education must adapt to detect AI usage while ensuring students develop actual expertise, not just AI skills


Topics

Online education | Future of work | Digital standards


Takeaways

Key takeaways

70% of skills needed for most jobs will change by 2030, requiring constant adaptation and redefinition of ‘future ready’ skills


Successful scaling requires three key strategies: supporting innovative models, creating locally generated but globally relevant programs, and building capacity of educational systems rather than just direct learner support


Inclusive national employment policies are essential to make digital skills initiatives sustainable and scalable, with youth guarantee schemes in EU/Balkan countries serving as successful examples


International labor standards need updating to include digitalization, digital skills, and lifelong learning components to remain relevant


Public-private partnerships are crucial for impact, with examples like ITU-ILO digital skills campaign and Decent Jobs for Youth initiative partnering with Microsoft


Reaching underserved rural communities without internet access requires resource-intensive, community-based approaches with local partnerships


AI literacy must go beyond technical skills to include human skills, critical thinking, responsible AI use, and communication abilities


Assessment methods in education must adapt to the AI era while ensuring students develop actual expertise alongside AI skills


Course content requires constant updating due to rapid AI innovation, with some platforms rotating 150-250 courses monthly


Significant gender gaps exist in AI education with only 32% of women enrolling in AI courses globally


Multidisciplinary approaches are needed beyond technical skills, including procurement, change management, and public service delivery


Lifelong learning is crucial for all generations, especially those not born into the digital age


Resolutions and action items

Continue partnerships between UN organizations (ITU, ILO) and private sector partners like Microsoft for skills training initiatives


Develop and implement AI literacy frameworks with defined competencies for educational policy


Create modular, personalized training approaches with micro-credentials to adapt to diverse skill development needs


Establish AI academies for teachers through partnerships with teachers’ unions


Launch AI Skills Coalition and Digital Transformation Center initiatives to promote training and reach underserved communities


Follow up with smaller group conversations to take actions forward and solve identified challenges


Expand ITU Academy offerings and explore micro-learning modules for better adaptation and scaling


Integrate digitalization perspectives into national employment strategies and active labor market policies


Update international labor standards to include digital skills and lifelong learning components


Unresolved issues

How to effectively assess students in higher education when AI tools are widely used without compromising evaluation of actual knowledge and expertise


How to address the rapid pace of AI innovation that makes course content obsolete quickly, requiring constant updates


How to bridge the significant gender gap in AI education participation (only 32% women)


How to reach and support NEETs (not in education, employment, or training) who are completely disconnected from systems


How to balance AI tool usage with maintaining fundamental knowledge and soft skills


How to provide evidence-based policy guidance when the implications and impacts of AI technologies are still unclear


How to handle the different aspirations and expectations of digitally native young people in traditional educational and employment systems


How to scale resource-intensive community-based approaches needed to reach underserved rural populations


How to prepare for agentic AI and future technological developments that may transform entire industries


Suggested compromises

‘Dream big and dream small’ approach – building capacity of large systems while designing programs with individual learner experiences in mind


Hands-on assessment methods with higher proportion of grades from practical evaluation to adapt to AI-enhanced learning environments


Modular and micro-credential approaches rather than traditional long-form courses to accommodate rapid technological change


Integration of AI skills training with entrepreneurship development, particularly for unemployed graduates in developing countries


Combination of online and community-based training approaches to reach both connected and underserved populations


Multidisciplinary training that combines technical AI skills with domain expertise, soft skills, and responsible AI use


Experiential learning approaches that focus on practical application rather than just theoretical or technical training


Thought provoking comments

By 2030, we’re anticipating that for all the jobs, for most jobs, by 2030, we’re going to see a 70% reduction in skills. So 70% change in skills that are needed for most jobs by 2030.

Speaker

Anupama Shekhar


Reason

This statistic is striking because it quantifies the massive scale of skills transformation required in just a few years. It moves beyond abstract discussions of ‘future readiness’ to concrete data that illustrates the urgency of the skills development challenge.


Impact

This comment fundamentally reframed the discussion from theoretical future planning to immediate crisis management. It established the urgency that permeated the rest of the conversation and justified the need for innovative, scalable solutions that other panelists then built upon.


We don’t have really evidence about what are the implications, the impact of these technologies yet on our societies… policymakers are not really often in the position to really take the right decision… We see a lot of risk, a lot of opportunities also, but the policymakers are not really often in the position to really take the right decision.

Speaker

Gianluca Musraca


Reason

This comment challenges the assumption that we can effectively plan for AI’s impact when we don’t yet understand its full implications. It introduces a critical tension between the need for immediate action and the lack of comprehensive evidence to guide that action.


Impact

This shifted the conversation from solution-focused to problem-definition focused, introducing a note of caution and complexity. It led to discussions about the need for foresight literacy and evidence-based policymaking, elevating the conversation beyond simple skills training to governance challenges.


Look at what happened with RGPT, we were not prepared for that and now this is already past. The agentic AI phenomenon is already changing completely our organizations… we may actually end in a very dystopian future that we should try to avoid.

Speaker

Gianluca Musraca


Reason

This comment introduces the concept of technological acceleration outpacing human adaptation, using concrete examples (ChatGPT, agentic AI) to illustrate how quickly the landscape changes. The dystopian warning adds urgency and ethical dimensions to the technical discussion.


Impact

This comment introduced a sense of technological vertigo to the discussion, shifting from optimistic planning to acknowledging the possibility of losing control. It prompted deeper reflection on the need for proactive rather than reactive approaches and influenced subsequent discussions about responsible AI development.


It’s not only the people who need to be future ready. It’s also our own international labor standards that need to be future ready… Every single labor standard needs to be checked, whether it is still relevant.

Speaker

Dorothea Schmidt-Klau


Reason

This comment expands the scope of ‘future readiness’ beyond individual skills to institutional and regulatory frameworks. It recognizes that the challenge isn’t just training people differently, but fundamentally restructuring the systems that govern work.


Impact

This broadened the conversation from individual capacity building to systemic transformation. It influenced subsequent discussions about the need for comprehensive policy frameworks and highlighted the institutional dimensions of the digital transformation challenge.


Those that are in the underserved communities, they don’t have access to Internet at home. They don’t have a computer… So if you want to train them, how do you do that? You have to go out and reach them in their communities… This is very resource intensive.

Speaker

Susan Teltscher


Reason

This comment grounds the high-level discussion in practical realities, highlighting the digital divide as a fundamental barrier to scaling AI and digital skills training. It challenges assumptions about universal access to technology-enabled learning.


Impact

This comment brought the discussion back to equity and inclusion concerns, tempering optimistic talk about digital solutions with recognition of infrastructure and access barriers. It influenced the conversation toward more nuanced approaches that consider different contexts and resource requirements.


We have only 32% of women taking those [AI] courses… the real problem is all these young people, the so-called needs that are not in education, not in employment, not in training. They are lost. We don’t even know where they sit.

Speaker

Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta and Dorothea Schmidt-Klau


Reason

These comments highlight critical gaps in participation and reach, moving beyond aggregate numbers to examine who is being left behind. The concept of ‘lost’ youth who are invisible to systems is particularly powerful.


Impact

These observations shifted attention from general skills development to specific inclusion challenges, prompting discussion about targeted interventions for underrepresented groups and the need for more comprehensive approaches to reach disconnected populations.


Overall assessment

These key comments collectively transformed what could have been a routine discussion about digital skills training into a more complex, urgent, and nuanced conversation about systemic transformation. The 70% skills change statistic established immediate urgency, while Gianluca’s warnings about technological acceleration and lack of evidence introduced necessary caution and complexity. Dorothea’s point about updating labor standards broadened the scope to institutional change, and Susan’s emphasis on underserved communities grounded the discussion in equity concerns. Together, these comments created a multi-layered conversation that acknowledged both the transformative potential and significant challenges of AI-driven skills development, moving the discussion from simple solution-sharing to deeper problem analysis and systemic thinking.


Follow-up questions

How could digital skills development efforts be scaled up in national labor policies?

Speaker

Tom Wambeke


Explanation

This question seeks to understand how individual interventions and programs can be integrated into broader policy frameworks to achieve sustainable scale and impact.


What is currently being done at the regional or cross-border level to accelerate scale in digital skills development?

Speaker

Tom Wambeke


Explanation

This explores coordination mechanisms and initiatives that transcend national boundaries to amplify impact and share best practices.


How can we find synergies between AI literacy and futures literacy/foresight literacy?

Speaker

Tom Wambeke (based on Gianluca’s input)


Explanation

Given the uncertain and rapidly evolving nature of AI, combining AI literacy with foresight capabilities could better prepare individuals and organizations for future changes.


How can we develop indicators or detection methods to identify where AI has been used in educational assessments?

Speaker

Dr. Sarah-Jane Fox


Explanation

This addresses the challenge of assessing students’ actual knowledge versus their AI-assisted work, which is critical for maintaining educational integrity and ensuring students develop foundational skills.


How are organizations updating AI-related courses given the rapid pace of technological change?

Speaker

Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta


Explanation

The fast evolution of AI technology requires constant curriculum updates, and understanding best practices for course maintenance is crucial for effective training programs.


How can more women be enrolled in AI and digital skills courses?

Speaker

Maria Cristina Cardenas Peralta


Explanation

With only 32% of women taking AI courses on Coursera, addressing gender disparities in AI education is important for inclusive development.


Does the International Labour Organization offer opportunities to international candidates with VLSI design engineering specialization and AI skills?

Speaker

Nidhi Gopal


Explanation

This specific inquiry about career opportunities reflects broader questions about how international organizations are adapting their hiring to include AI-skilled professionals.


How can we better support unemployed graduates in developing countries through AI-enabled entrepreneurship programs?

Speaker

Unnamed participant


Explanation

With 15-20% of graduates unemployed in developing countries, there’s potential to leverage AI training for startup creation aligned with Sustainable Development Goals.


How do we equip teachers and educational systems to handle a generation that may have more digital knowledge than their instructors?

Speaker

Dorothea Schmidt-Klau


Explanation

This addresses the challenge of role reversal in digital knowledge between students and teachers, requiring new pedagogical approaches and teacher training methods.


What evidence do we need to gather about AI’s impact on society to inform better policymaking?

Speaker

Gianluca Musraca


Explanation

Policymakers need concrete evidence about AI’s implications to make informed decisions, but this evidence is currently lacking due to the technology’s rapid evolution.


How can we develop personalized, modular training approaches using AI to adapt to different learning needs?

Speaker

Gianluca Musraca


Explanation

Moving away from one-size-fits-all training toward personalized, micro-credential approaches could improve the effectiveness and relevance of skills development programs.


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Breaking the Fake in the AI World: Staying Smart in the Age of Misinformation, Disinformation, Hate, and Deepfake

Breaking the Fake in the AI World: Staying Smart in the Age of Misinformation, Disinformation, Hate, and Deepfake

Session at a glance

Summary

This workshop focused on the critical issue of misinformation and disinformation’s impact on children’s development, bringing together speakers from multiple countries to discuss AI-driven threats and protective strategies. Professor Salma Abbasi opened by presenting research on how digital platforms affect children’s physiological, psychological, and social development, describing the situation as a “hidden public health crisis.” She highlighted alarming statistics showing that 96% of cases studied across 14 countries involved either self-harm or violence against others, linking excessive screen time to disrupted brain development and dangerous behavioral changes.


Minister Dr. Aminata Zerbo from Burkina Faso emphasized how geopolitical instability has made the digital environment a vector of serious risks, particularly for vulnerable children exposed to manipulative content and toxic online influences. She outlined her government’s initiatives including awareness campaigns in schools and developing AI regulations that prioritize human dignity and social cohesion. Indonesia’s Director-General Fifi Aleyda Yahya shared their comprehensive approach, including delaying social media access until age 17-18 and establishing ethics guidelines for AI development, while stressing the need for human-centric AI solutions.


Young researcher Sami Galal presented findings on how screen exposure negatively impacts specific brain regions in children aged 0-5, including the prefrontal cortex, hippocampus, and visual cortex, leading to problems with emotional regulation, learning, and social interaction. Other panelists discussed grassroots initiatives in Bangladesh, policy frameworks across Africa, and technical standards development through organizations like IEEE. The discussion concluded with calls for collective action involving parents, governments, and private sector companies to establish duty of care, improve digital literacy, and ensure age-appropriate content design to protect children in the digital age.


Keypoints

## Major Discussion Points:


– **Impact of digital platforms on children’s development**: The discussion extensively covered how excessive screen time and social media exposure negatively affects children’s physiological, psychological, and social development, including brain development disruption, addiction patterns, and behavioral changes.


– **AI-driven misinformation and disinformation threats**: Participants addressed the growing sophistication of AI-generated false content, deepfakes, and manipulated media, particularly highlighting how these threaten democratic processes, public trust, and vulnerable populations including children.


– **Technology-facilitated gender-based violence and toxic online culture**: The conversation examined how digital platforms normalize violence, misogyny, and hate speech, contributing to real-world harm and creating what speakers termed a “public health crisis.”


– **Global policy responses and regulatory frameworks**: Representatives from various countries (Indonesia, Burkina Faso, Bangladesh, Colombia) shared their national approaches to combating digital harms, including age verification systems, AI ethics guidelines, and awareness campaigns.


– **Multi-stakeholder collaboration and standards development**: The discussion emphasized the need for coordinated action between governments, tech companies, educators, parents, and international organizations, including the development of age-appropriate design standards and simplified terms of service for children.


## Overall Purpose:


The discussion aimed to address the growing crisis of misinformation, disinformation, and digital harm affecting children globally. The workshop sought to bring together diverse international stakeholders to share experiences, present research findings, and develop collaborative solutions for protecting children in digital spaces while building resilience against online threats.


## Overall Tone:


The discussion maintained a consistently serious and urgent tone throughout, with speakers treating the topic as a critical public health crisis requiring immediate action. The tone was collaborative and solution-oriented, with participants sharing both concerning research findings and practical interventions. While the subject matter was grave, the atmosphere remained constructive and forward-looking, emphasizing hope through collective action and youth empowerment. The inclusion of a young researcher (Sami) added an authentic voice that reinforced the urgency while demonstrating that young people can be part of the solution.


Speakers

**Speakers from the provided list:**


– **Salma Abbasi** – Professor, eWorldwide Group, moderator and organizer of the workshop on misinformation and disinformation


– **Aminata Zerbo** – Honorable Minister, Dr., from Burkina Faso


– **Fifi Aleyda Yahya** – Director-General, Ministry of Communication and Digital of the Republic of Indonesia


– **Sami Galal** – Young participant/student who researched the impact of screen time on brain development


– **AHM Bazlur Rahman** – Representative from Bangladesh News Network for Radio and Communication, working on youth resilience to misinformation and technology-facilitated gender-based violence


– **Elise Elena Mola** – Lawyer specializing in EU AI Act implementation and AI governance for corporations


– **Yu Ping Chan** – Head of Partnership, UNDP (United Nations Development Programme), leads digital engagements and partnerships


– **Mactar Seck** – Dr., Chief of Technology Digital Transformation, AI, and Cyber, working on African content and continental AI strategy


– **IEEE representative** – Karen Mulberry (substituting for Karen McCade), representing IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers), working on technical standards for age-appropriate design


– **Gitanjali Sah** – ITU representative, involved in organizing the WSIS Forum


– **Audience** – Various audience members who asked questions during the session


**Additional speakers:**


– **Claudia Bustamante** – Director of CRC (regulator in Colombia)


– **Dr. Eva Fell** – International Committee of the Red Cross


– **Carol Constantine** – Human resources technology company representative


Full session report

# International Workshop Report: Misinformation, Disinformation, and Children’s Digital Safety


## Executive Summary


This international workshop, moderated by Professor Salma Abbasi of eWorldwide Group, brought together government ministers, international organisation representatives, technical standards experts, and youth researchers to address digital threats to children’s safety and development. The discussion focused on the intersection of artificial intelligence, misinformation, and child protection in digital environments, with speakers characterising the current situation as a “hidden public health crisis” requiring urgent international action.


## Opening Presentation: The Hidden Public Health Crisis


Professor Salma Abbasi opened the workshop by presenting research findings from her work across 14 countries, revealing that 96% of cases studied resulted in either self-harm or violence. She framed this as a “hidden public health crisis” affecting children’s development in three key areas: physiological, psychological, and social development.


Abbasi explained how digital platforms exploit children’s psychological vulnerabilities through dopamine-driven algorithms designed to maximise screen time rather than promote healthy development. She referenced the UK summer polarisation incident as an example of how online misinformation can lead to real-world violence, emphasising how exposure to toxic content normalises violence and creates harmful attitudes.


The presentation highlighted how technology-facilitated gender-based violence extends beyond individual harm to threaten social cohesion and democratic values across societies, establishing the framework for the subsequent panel discussion.


## Government Perspectives


### Burkina Faso’s National Response


Dr. Aminata Zerbo, Honourable Minister from Burkina Faso, addressed how geopolitical instability and security challenges compound digital threats to children. She explained that in contexts of political uncertainty, the digital environment becomes particularly dangerous for manipulative content targeting vulnerable populations.


Minister Zerbo outlined her government’s response, including awareness-raising campaigns in schools and development of legal frameworks for artificial intelligence that prioritise human dignity and social cohesion. She emphasised the importance of international cooperation whilst maintaining that solutions must be adapted to specific national contexts, calling for collective responses that respect national sovereignty.


### Indonesia’s Age-Based Restrictions


Fifi Aleyda Yahya, Director-General from Indonesia, shared her country’s approach to protecting children in digital spaces. Indonesia has implemented social media access restrictions until ages 17-18, whilst maintaining access to digital devices for educational purposes under supervision.


Yahya explained that this policy recognises the importance of digital literacy whilst acknowledging that social media platforms pose specific developmental risks. She noted that as AI-generated content becomes more sophisticated and seamless, detection methods must evolve accordingly, though current AI-generated content can often still be identified.


## Panel Discussion Responses


### Youth Research on Brain Development


Sami Galal, a young researcher studying screen time impacts on brain development, focused his research on children aged 0-5, examining effects on the prefrontal cortex, hippocampus, and visual cortex. His findings indicated that excessive screen time leads to problems with emotional regulation, learning difficulties, and vision issues.


Galal explained how screen-based activities require less effort than physical activities whilst providing similar dopamine rewards, creating patterns that interfere with healthy development. He advocated for interactive terms and conditions that children can understand, ideally written by children for children, and emphasised that parents should view digital devices as last resorts rather than convenient solutions.


### Technical Standards Development


Karen Mulberry, substituting for Karen McCade from the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), outlined ongoing work to develop technical standards for age-appropriate design. The IEEE is developing standards for age verification, e-gaming, and general age-appropriate design principles across different age groups.


She mentioned current draft guidelines for children’s safe engagement on social media and gaming platforms covering 36 countries, with plans for expansion through working group collaboration. These standards aim to bridge the gap between policy objectives and technical implementation.


### Bangladesh Grassroots Initiatives


AHM Bazlur Rahman from Bangladesh News Network for Radio and Communication described grassroots-level interventions focused on hyperlocal Facebook page development and social media training at community levels. His approach recognises that misinformation and disinformation pollute entire information ecosystems, threatening human progress by promoting violent extremism.


Rahman’s methodology operates at community levels where social media consumption actually occurs, demonstrating how locally relevant solutions can address global problems through community-based approaches.


### African Continental Strategy


Dr. Mactar Seck, Chief of Technology Digital Transformation, AI, and Cyber, noted that over 400 million people connected to social media across Africa face challenges from misinformation promoting violence, terrorism, and gender-based violence. He outlined efforts to develop continental AI strategy frameworks that incorporate considerations of misinformation and gender violence.


Seck mentioned development of a disinformation monitoring platform in collaboration with Gambia as a first step towards continental-level solutions that can be adapted and scaled across different African contexts.


### EU Regulatory Analysis


Elise Elena Mola, a lawyer specialising in EU AI Act implementation, provided critical analysis of current regulatory frameworks. She argued that existing EU AI Act requirements focus primarily on corporate efficiency rather than teaching society how to interact safely with AI systems.


Mola highlighted research showing that within 20 minutes of using TikTok, young men are exposed to extreme content, demonstrating how AI algorithms exploit psychological vulnerabilities to maximise engagement. She identified a disconnect between corporate AI governance focused on operational efficiency and societal AI literacy needs.


## International Organisation Responses


### UNDP Multi-Country Support


Yu Ping Chan, Head of Partnership at the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), outlined international support mechanisms across multiple countries. UNDP supports over 10 countries with tools like eMonitor and iVerify designed to address hate speech and technology-facilitated gender-based violence.


Chan emphasised that global solutions developed in Western contexts may not be appropriate for all situations, particularly in developing countries where different cultural, economic, and technological contexts require adapted approaches.


### ITU Integration


Gitanjali Sah, representing the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) and involved in organising the WSIS Forum, addressed how workshop outcomes could be integrated into broader international policy processes. She emphasised translating discussion outcomes into actionable policies at international forums like the UN General Assembly.


Sah raised questions about biases in AI algorithms, particularly regarding gender discrimination and impacts on vulnerable populations including children and older persons, connecting digital threats to broader human rights concerns.


## Audience Questions and Discussion


### Educational Institution Roles


Dr. Eva Fell from the International Committee of the Red Cross emphasised schools as primary venues for teaching critical thinking skills about digital content and misinformation. The discussion highlighted peer-to-peer communication between older and younger students as particularly effective.


### Caregiver Training


Claudia Bustamante, Director of CRC (regulator in Colombia), raised the need to train caregivers beyond parents, including kindergarten staff and household helpers who spend significant time with children. This broader caregiver approach recognises that children’s digital safety depends on multiple adults who may lack digital literacy training.


### Implementation Mechanisms


Carol Constantine’s question about implementation led to discussion of multi-ministry collaboration involving Health, Education, ICT, and Justice departments, reflecting recognition that digital threats require coordinated government responses across traditional departmental boundaries.


## Proposed Solutions and Next Steps


### Technical Implementation


The workshop identified concrete technical initiatives including expansion of IEEE standards for age-appropriate design beyond the current 36 countries, and development of interactive terms and conditions that children can understand.


### Educational Initiatives


Speakers proposed comprehensive digital parenting education programmes and peer-to-peer communication initiatives in schools, addressing the reality that many parents lack digital literacy skills needed to guide their children effectively.


### Policy Integration


Gitanjali Sah proposed submitting workshop outcomes to the UN General Assembly through the chair’s report, providing a mechanism for integrating results into broader international policy processes.


## Closing Remarks


### Multi-Stakeholder Responsibility


Sami Galal concluded by identifying parents, governments, and private sector companies as different lines of defence, each with distinct moral responsibilities. He positioned corporate responsibility as an ethical imperative extending beyond regulatory compliance.


### International Cooperation


The workshop concluded with emphasis on the need for sustained international cooperation that balances coordinated global action with respect for national sovereignty and cultural differences. Speakers consistently emphasised that no single actor can address digital threats effectively, requiring coordinated responses across different sectors and levels of governance.


## Conclusion


The workshop successfully established consensus on the severity of digital threats to children whilst identifying practical solutions through multi-stakeholder collaboration. The combination of government policy innovation, technical standards development, youth research, and international cooperation mechanisms created a comprehensive framework for addressing what speakers characterised as an urgent public health crisis requiring immediate, coordinated action to protect children in digital environments.


Session transcript

Salma Abbasi: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much for coming bright and early at nine o’clock. It’s always difficult to have a session on the first thing in the morning after a big party. My name is Professor Salma Abbasi, and I’m really delighted to be talking about misinformation and disinformation. This is an important topic that’s really close to everybody’s hearts, whether you’re old or young. This is information that the world is dealing with today. We have organized today’s workshop to be interactive, and we will be touching on this important issue in the context of its impact on children, their development, and we have brought together a very diverse range of speakers from different countries to give different views in different contexts. The geopolitical environment and the rapid adoption of technology and AI in the technology and in our daily lives is causing quite a lot of issues. We at the eWorldwide Group are continuously researching children’s lived experiences and trying to understand how we can build a resilience in them and between them. so that this world that they’re immersed in is well understood. In that context, I would like to share with you a report that we have recently, we’ll be publishing today, which is talking about the platform’s effect on children’s holistic development. And there’s three key areas that I’d like to discuss, the physiological, psychological, and social development. Drawing on the latest global research, and the risks that we see are immense. The psychological development, digital engagement, how it’s altering their biological development, neurological development, and excessive screen time’s exposure, and the dopamine-driven algorithms that disrupts their brain’s development and thinking, reinforces instant gratification, which causes problems. And the research linked to screen time, the overuse, the poor sleep. These are things that we hear about, but the hidden developmental issues are not covered. The psychological impact, discussing with platforms themselves, is a big challenge. I’m sure you can understand we’re talking about trillions of dollars and how this impacts them. And in this context, the whole design of the exploitation of children’s psychological well-being to stimulate their vulnerabilities and exploit their vulnerabilities, and stimulate them to join various groups, is a very big risk for us in society today. We are dealing with the whole issue of self-validation of young people on how many likes they have, how many followers they have. So all the superficial behavior are driving them to do more and more dangerous things. And I believe that this is an area that is highly sensitive for young children as they grow through the adolescent time to see what they should be and how they should be behaving in society. They are most vulnerable to be manipulated and molded in certain directions. They seek their validation in the digital world. Last summer in the UK, we experienced a drastic polarization of society because of misinformation and disinformation. The digital platforms are shaping how children respond and react to society and social issues. The exposure to misogyny, the hate speech, and the toxic culture online that social media and gaming is encouraging is a big issue. It’s normalizing violence. It’s normalizing attitudes towards gender. In fact, I would argue we’re going backwards. It’s increasing the technology-facilitated gender-based violence, which my colleague will discuss further. But the images and the growing around these violent toxic images of abuse is resulting in kids having violent stabbing and shooting incidents increasing around the world as they blend their online world with the offline world of reality, which we are unable to see. I am calling this a public health crisis and a hidden public health crisis. And the synthesis of all of the cases that we have covered over 14 countries show an alarming significance of self-harm and suicide. And it’s 96%, which is a very big problem of those cases that exist are either killing somebody or killing yourself. And that is something that calls for action for all of us, which I’m hoping after the discussion, we will be able to get your support to join hands with us in this important work. So thank you so much for coming and I would like to now hand over to our Honorable Minister, Dr. Aminata Zerbo from Burkina Faso to give the opening remarks. Thank you, Minister.


Aminata Zerbo: Good morning, everyone. It is my great pleasure to be here to talk about this important topic. Thanks to Salma and the World Wide for all the work they do to try to protect our children online. In the age of artificial intelligence, the ability to manipulate images, sounds, facts, and emotions through digital technologies is no longer science fiction. It presents a major challenge to our societies as it weakens truth, destabilizes institutions, fools hate speech, and spreads falsified content such as deep fakes. In this context of geopolitical instability, the digital environment has become not only a strategic sphere of influence but also a vector of serious risk, especially for the most vulnerable. Children and young people increasingly exposed to manipulative content, toxic online games, and deviant influencers are seeing the perception of reality, the behavior, and the moral development deeply affected. We observe with concern the emergence of a digital culture marked by misogyny, sexual exploitation, technology-facilitated gender-based violence, but also fascination with criminality and radicalization of minds. The impact on mental health is just as troubling. This phenomenon seriously threatens the future of our children. In Burkina Faso, these challenges take on a particular significance. The security context in which we operate makes the fight against disinformation, hate speech, and algorithmic manipulation more essential. Fully aware of these challenges, our government, for my ministry, and in close collaboration with all national stakeholders, but also international stakeholders, is implementing structural action to regulate digital practices and create a healthy, inclusive, and secure digital environment. Among our flagship initiatives is the awareness raising of school-stridden and high school students. On the legal front, Burkina Faso is working to develop regulations that frame the ethical use of artificial intelligence and digital technologies in respect of fundamental rights, transparency, accountability, and human dignity. Our goal is to promote human-centered AI, serving social cohesion, education, and peace, not as an instrument of manipulation or exploitation. Also, we are working to strengthen our cooperation with technical and international partners, as worldwide, to establish effective mechanisms for detection and rapid response to disinformation campaigns and toxic content. Distinguished participants, we are convinced that responses to these threats must be collective, united, and adapted to our respective contexts. This is why Burkina Faso reaffirms here its commitment to actively contribute to the creation of a trusted digital space, one that protects youth, guarantees human rights, and fosters peaceful and sustainable digital development. In this global effort, the strengthening of national capacities, regional cooperation, and the harmonization of ethical standards will be our common tools to unmask falsehoods, uphold truth, and build a safer digital future for generations to come. I would like to thank you.


Salma Abbasi: Thank you very much. I hope you can see the gender balance or imbalance in this room. I’d like to now ask the Director-General from Indonesia to kindly give her opening remarks.


Fifi Aleyda Yahya: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Professor Salma, thank you for the introduction. Distinguished panelists, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Fifi and I represent the Ministry of Communication and Digital of the Republic of Indonesia. I’m very happy to be here, delighted to meet you all. I would like to congratulate the ITU and the Session Organizing Committee on including AI-driven forgery issues in our collective dialogue today. It is an honor to join this very anticipated event. I know I’m supposed to speak, but I think I speak it’s easier and I think my voice is better if I stand. So I’m sorry if I stand. And in this midst of a remarkable advancement in artificial intelligence, we face an equally pressing challenge, the spread of this information, which is amplified and sometimes generated by AI. In Indonesia, the world’s third largest democracy, well, we can do the math, but it’s 280 million or close to 300 million population, Minister, at this moment. Manipulated content such as deep fakes, bots, and synthetic text has grown in sophistication, posing serious threats to public trust and civic disclosure. To address this, the government of Indonesia has adopted a comprehensive and collaborative approach. First, the regulation, of course. We are strengthening our digital governance framework by enacting the government regulation. This regulation reflects Indonesia’s strong concern for protecting children’s rights, safety, and well-being in the digital space. So, for example, we are delaying the age for our teenagers to be able to access social media. But we’re not banning them to use the gadget, just delaying them 17 to 18 years old. So they can, at that age, after that age, they can access social media independently without parents’ supervision. So that’s one. In addition, we issued a letter, I should say, on ethics of artificial intelligence, which established core principles for responsible, transparent, and human-centered AI development. And we realized that when we talk about digital AI, well, it’s faster there. I think not long after this, they will be more sophisticated. Now, we can still spot whether this is an AI, but I’m sure in no due time, it’s going to be more sophisticated and more seamless, I should say. So, third, through partnership, of course, that’s why we’re here. We collaborate with digital platforms, civil society, and international partners to detect, mitigate, and combat AI-driven disinformation. So, again, a moderator, Professor Salma, we’re very happy to be here. And Indonesia, through the Ministry of Communication and Digital, we are ready to collaborate. We believe AI must be human-centric, resting on a commitment to their use in the service of humanity, we all believe that, I’m sure, and the common good. AI for good, not to become a tool of deception. Therefore, we support the development of AI. of Global Standards that Promote Transparency, Accountability, and Ethics in AI Development. Indonesia, again, is committed to being part of the global solution to break the chain of AI-powered disinformation. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you.


Salma Abbasi: Thank you very much. I think that this is a great opening for us to now have a conversation. At the end of the session, I will definitely share the reports on the hidden public health crisis that talks about these topics that Indonesia is very aware of, and taking these proactive steps to safeguard the young generation. I think, collectively, in the Global South, we have fantastic initiatives that have been spearheaded by countries that we need to understand aren’t taking away our civil rights, but they are protecting the most vulnerable that need to be protected. So, that being said, I’m going to – actually, if we could move to the picture of the panellists – I’m going to introduce our panellists very briefly. Sami from, and I’m just going to say, my youngest participant with a very intellectual-stimulating presentation, and my brother, Bazlur, from Bangladesh, who is going to talk about technology-facilitated gender-based violence and many other things as a historical champion of technology for good. And then, my colleague, Elise, who is a fantastic lawyer, who’s worked really closely with us to develop the guidelines for new standards that kids will read for terms and conditions, and I’m hoping that we can have more than our 36 countries join hands with us. And my brother, Mactar, Dr. Mactar from Africa, he’s the Chief of the Technology Digital Transformation, AI, and Cyber, and has a lot of work leading the African content. And lastly, my colleague, who’s hiding over there, please join the panellists here. I just saw you. We have our colleague from UNDP, Head of Partnership. and then my colleague Karen from the IEEE who’s going to be talking about standards, collaboration, age-appropriate digital content. That being said, we will move to our first speaker and the question I’m going to ask, so we’re doing this in three minutes per speaker. So, Sami, for a school assignment you recently researched the impact of exposure of screen time on the brain. What did you find out and what behavioral impact are you seeing in young children around you? Thank you.


Sami Galal: So my research was made on how screens impact children aged 0 to 5 and what impacts it has on the child’s brain. After that, I interested myself more into the topic and I researched more younger age. So I found out that these screens impact these children really negatively and they do it in various parts of the brain. So starting off with the prefrontal cortex, it’s one of the last places of the brain to mature, so the early years are really important in the child’s overall brain development. It’s also known as the personality center as it revolves with everything related to your personality. So disruption in the area will lead to trouble regulating emotional behavior and trouble regulating, trouble being in social scenarios. They don’t know how to interact with other people. Then we are moving on to the hippocampus. The hippocampus has the task of learning and memory. So it’s what we use mostly in the school work and when we have to put in some work in intellectual work. Disruption in the area will lead to trouble processing information and trouble concentrating in some tasks. Then moving on to the occipital lobe, where we can find the visual cortex. The visual cortex is the most important part of the brain of processing visual information. So disruption in the area will lead to myopia, so a condition where things are close by and not blurry, but the further you get, the blurrier they get. Additionally, dopamine is also a crucial factor. It’s a neurotransmitter and a pleasure hormone. It’s crucial in how children react towards rewards, they form connections, and they learn. Dopamine system has various pathways that lead to various parts of the brain, which can lead to an addiction, as screens stimulate the production of dopamine, the same that you get when you do a physical activity. When you’re on screens, you don’t have to put the same effort as when you’re doing physical activities, which just makes the reward that more enjoyable, as you don’t have to put in the work and you get the same effect. Thank you very much.


Salma Abbasi: Thank you very much. So you can see that there’s some deep science going on here, that we must understand all of these things invisibly happening with our children. And I think there’s a recent study that also talks about the screen time, little children, and to see this become the digital babysitter. But for a young person to have that view and share that, I’m super proud of you. Thank you. My brother next question is for you. Could you please provide some insights on your youth resilience work on misinformation initiative in Bangladesh and how you’re building local engagement and development within Bangladesh at the grassroots? And could you also share some insights on your experience and knowledge on the technology facilitated gender-based violence in Bangladesh and what you’re doing to address?


AHM Bazlur Rahman: Thank you, Madam Moderator. Excellencies, co-fellow and distinguished participants, It’s a great privilege to be with all of you in this morning. I would like to sincerely thank Professor Dr. Salma Abbasi for the kind invitation, which has allowed me to share my thoughts on behalf of Bangladesh News Network for Radio and Communication about the misinformation, disinformation, and as well as combating technology-facilitated gender-based violence. All of us know information integrity refers to accuracy, consistency, and reliability of information. Misinformation and disinformation pollutes the information, entire ecosystem, and threatens human progress. That’s why we are in here. And propaganda, misinformation, and fact news have the potential to polarize public opinion, to promote violent extremism and hate speech, and ultimately to undermine democracies and reduce trust in the democratic process. To address the issue, we have been implementing the project called Youth Resilience to Misinformation, Building Local Engagement and Media Development in Bangladesh. Under the project, basically, we divided our activities into two parts. One is the national level, and another one is the grassroots level. From the local level, I would like to share some activities. We are used to using social media, but with some orientation. That’s why we have chosen the Facebook page development for working with the rural youth. through the hyperlocal method. Social media is used as a platform, Facebook for countering mis- and disinformation. And we identify the youth and youth communities at the grassroots level. We call hyperlocal. What is hyperlocal? Hyperlocal is enabling in line with the supply side and demand side. Of course, youth and youth women are part of this. And also e-engaging of the youth and youth women. And last one is the e-empowering of the youth and youth women. And what is our major intervention? Identifying the social media holder, stakeholder and social media holder analysis, and design and monitoring framework of the some program, engaging social media holder, organize some orientation for strengthening critical analysis skills to counter the proliferation of misinformation, and time to time collecting some more significant cases, and develop some audiovisual content for dissemination through social media, and also develop some message. So this is the major intervention of the misinformation and disinformation, combating through the youth community. Thank you.


Salma Abbasi: Thank you very much indeed. I think we’ll have more to hear. Thank you. I’d like to go to our next speaker, who is Elise Mola. Elise, where do you see the biggest disconnect between the global policy discussion and what actually is happening inside companies?


Elise Elena Mola: Challenging. I’m not sure if I speak for the younger audience but maybe within a decade, maybe internet presentations could be, obviously more of what, and very limited stonewall very challenging. You’ve covered a lot of different things. Well, on a daily basis, I help large companies, mostly in Germany and across Europe, to implement the new EU AI Act and kind of guide them in integrating AI systems into their companies according to proper governance structures. I think the challenge here is, yes, there are requirements, for example, for AI literacy. But what the requirements cover is, you know, how do I use this AI tool to effectively automate certain tasks at corporations to increase efficiency? The kind of AI skills, though, that we really need as a society are the AI skills to interact with AI while understanding how, for example, through social media, it’s actually skewing our perception of reality. There was some interesting studies done, for example, that within 20 minutes of using TikTok, young men are shown extreme right-wing propaganda, violence, misogynist content. And what we’re missing is understanding, you know, how is the AI algorithm manipulating us and playing to our most vulnerable evolutionary aspects in order to maximize our screen time and manipulate us into staying on the platform and creating a kind of, I would say, outrage machine. Because when we’re angry and we’re hateful, we stay on the platform and we’re in this kind of amygdala.


Salma Abbasi: Our next speaker is Ms. Yu Ping Chan, so UNDP has been advocating for an inclusive responsible digital transformation and in that context there’s a growing challenge posed by the use of digital technologies and how is UNDP supporting countries especially in the global south to strengthen their digital resilience and information integrity. Thank you.


Yu Ping Chan: Thank you so much professor, it’s an honour to be here. My name is Ms. Yu Ping Chan, I lead digital engagements and partnerships at the UNDP. We are the development arm of the United Nations, we’re present in 170 countries and territories around the world and our primary role is to support countries through all phases of development and in many cases we are actually the front face of the UN in the country serving as the right hand of government and so this question as to how we strengthen digital resilience is particularly profound because we recognize the ability of digital technologies and AI to accelerate achievement of sustainable development but at the same time these risks and challenges that other panellists have spoken about there is a topic of today’s conversation are something that we need to build capacity in our program countries and particularly in the global south to combat and so when it comes to all these challenges think about the fact that these are challenges for developed countries so they’re even more profound for developing countries that lack the capacity that a lot of times don’t also the manpower, the resources, the government institutions to address these types of challenges. So we need to start from meeting them at where the urgency of the need is the greatest and build the capacity in these countries, in their policymakers, in their communities, their local ecosystems, to have local solutions to these problems as well. It’s also not a one-size-fits-all, you know, we import a global solution type thing that is developed in the West. We need to think about locally relevant, culturally sensitive, contextual solutions to addressing all of these solutions, these issues effectively. And so that’s where the UNDP comes in, to really think about these aspects, to build as part of a comprehensive approach to digital technologies, and to build the type of digital resilience that we need. In the area of information integrity, for instance, we work in over 10 countries with eMonitor that looks at addressing hate speech and gender-facilitated and technology-facilitated GBV. We have been working in over 10 different countries with iVerify. With enhanced fact-checking, we are building a digital kit for democracy that really includes these types of technologies that can be safe and secure, that can really support our developing country partners in addressing these types of challenges. We welcome working with more stakeholder partners to really make sure, as I’ve said before, these solutions are appropriate to national contexts that really take into account the needs and particularities of our developing country partners, and work to empower the global South as co-creators of the digital future that we want to address these types of challenges, and really make sure that we’re all part of the digital future and the potential of digital AI, and addressing these types of challenges as well.


Salma Abbasi: Thank you very much. So now I move to Dr. Mactar. Dr. Mactar, the question is, what policies and strategies and governance frameworks in African countries are implemented to address the risks of AI-generated misinformation while protecting the freedom of expression and maintaining electoral integrity? Thank you.


Mactar Seck: Thank you very much, Dr. Salma. I think it is a very important question when we look at the African view. In the continent, you have more than 400 million people connected to the social media. And this is a big challenge. Why? Because this misinformation, disinformation, promote a lot of thing in the continent when we look at the issue of violence, of freedom of speech, issue of terrorism, gender violence. All is coming �are coming from this disinformation, misinformation, also on the issue of democracy in several country when you have the election. And at UNHCA, we try to look at two angle. One it is on the policy side, and also on the technical side. What we can do on policy side, we have to look at at the continental level, because misinformation, disinformation is not a national issue. Information can be�come from everywhere. You have several people in the diaspora, and also terrorism is everywhere. We can look at what’s happened in the Sahel region, Mali, Burkina, and Niger as a country. We can look at what is a problem there, where information come, what kind information are sent to the population. And we need to look at first on the policy. On the policy, we look at the continental level. We already work with African Union to develop this AI strategy framework for Africa. Also this continental cybersecurity policy. And also the cybersecurity guideline for member states. And all this framework. We incorporate issue of disinformation, misinformation, and gender violence. It is a one-step at the continental level, and at the national level, we support African countries also to develop their national policy, taking into consideration the ethical impact of the information society. Now we have, we can say, 10�between 10, 14 countries already have a national AI policy incorporating the issue of misinformation, disinformation. Also we have a program on capacity building. And also, the more important, it is awareness. It is something we need to do more across all the member of the society, because everybody now uses information society. You receive information, you don�t know it�s true or not. I�m sure Madam Minister is facing on this. Every day you receive one information, and you don�t know where is this coming. And you can�t go anytime to the news, to the media, to say, no, it�s not coming from me, no. And we also develop one platform with Gambia to also to monitor all this disinformation, fake news. I think it is a first step we are doing, and we see how we can expand also at the continental level. Also, we are engaging�we are very committed under the G20 on the data governance working group to see how we can assist African countries to fight this misinformation, disinformation. Also, we develop some application to monitor the hard speech, like what we did in Kenya and other country. It is some key area where we are focused, but it is not easy. It is not easy to fight against this disinformation, misinformation. We need to do more awareness across�among also population. Thank you.


Salma Abbasi: Thank you very much indeed. So the final panelist is going to be Karen from the IEEE. What are your views on how to address the impact of AI-driven misinformation and digital content that is harmful to young people? Thank you.


IEEE representative: All right. Now it’s on. Well, I’d like to first apologize that Karen McCade can’t make it this morning. She had an urgent matter that came up to address. So I am Karen Mulberry. So you get a Karen from IEEE. And let me tell you a little bit about IEEE itself. It is the world’s largest technical professional organization. We have technical communities in 190 countries and over 500,000 members working on a lot of solutions, working with Indonesia on some of their issues. And we actually work with Salma and her organization on how do you address some critical aspects of misinformation. And one of the areas that we have a body to work on is children, but not necessarily children. It’s what’s age appropriate, because what might be appropriate for a three-year-old might not be the same for a five-year-old, a 10-year-old. And even when you look into the vulnerable aging population, what’s appropriate access to information to them? And do they understand the impact of what’s out there? So how can we, as a technical standards body, approach setting up a process so that when you develop a product, you consider what’s age appropriate. We’ve worked with Five Rites. We’ve worked with eWorldwide. And that kind of started our journey on our first standard on what’s age appropriate design. So if you’re looking at a product, how would you design it to make sure that it’s appropriate for the age group that is in your target? As we have heard, it’s very important to make sure that you get the right information, that it’s trustworthy and responsible for whether it’s the three-year-old, the five-year-old, the 10-year-old, or my 95-year-old father who believes everything on the internet is true. The next standard we have out there that just was released earlier this year is, how do you verify an age of someone to make sure that they only have access to what’s appropriate for them? And so there’s a lot of countries that are looking at that as a possible solution and companion to the law. I know we’ve worked with Indonesia on our age-appropriate design work and our age verification work so that they can approach the framework around a policy and regulation to make sure that children only have access to the things that are good for them. And that they don’t get exposed to things that they shouldn’t be exposed to until they’re old enough to understand what they are. Now, we also, following this progression, and as Dr. Abbasi noted, we are working on a standard now on e-gaming. What’s appropriate in terms of e-gaming, we’ve heard that it actually creates a lot of addiction and attraction and almost a spiral effect. So now we’re trying to figure out the standard approach that a product should be built to consider all of these so that you avoid the misinformation and somehow we can minimize the addiction and other impacts that happen. So thank you very much, and if you would like to join us in the work, please. We would love to have your expertise.


Salma Abbasi: Thank you very much. So now we move to the part of the session. We started a little bit late so we will just go a little bit longer. To the point that Karen mentioned, I have a document here which is a draft guideline for children’s safe engagement on social media and gaming platforms. And it’s the terms and conditions. I don’t know how many people here actually read the terms and conditions or just click accept. Does anybody actually read the terms and conditions? Oh, wow. Good, mashallah, there’s a few. But I want to tell you that we did a survey to understand children’s lived experiences online and what their exposure is to the social media platforms today. And I can tell you that 75% of them say that they don’t read the terms and conditions, that they’re too long. And they have actually then created, this is like my young panelist here, Sami, they have created a guideline. It’s written by children for children so that social media companies and gaming platforms can actually use it. So I think that it would be a very good time to ask a few of you some questions on what you’ve heard and if there’s something that you’d like to share. I know two people in this room that I met a couple of days ago. I’m going to go straight to you. If I can pass this mic, my dear, from a Colombia context.


Audience: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I’m Claudia Bustamante, the director of CRC, the regulator in Colombia. It’s a great panel you have here. I’ve heard many, many great things. This is a challenge for all our countries and our people. In Colombia, we have approached in different ways, but we have many challenges to… to cope. We have a training for critical thinking. It’s an open course with gamification and very simple language for the people to understand. They need to think about everything they see in multiple screens. You need first to have that kind of critical reasoning to figure it out when something is true or not. Also, we made fieldwork to get data with surveys, and we talked with the caretakers. The children are not all the time with their parents. Maybe they are with another person in their house or in kindergarten or places like that. Then we need to train those people also. It’s not only the responsibility for their parents or for their professors, but these people are very important in the process also. For the technical issues and the conditions, we have a limitation because our faculties, as a regulator, doesn’t reach to platforms, only to traditional service providers. Then we have talked to them. They suggest codes of conduct and some guidelines, but it’s up to them to do it. We can set rules for them, and sometimes this is a limitation to do more things.


Salma Abbasi: Does anybody else have any questions?


Audience: Hello, I’m Dr. Eva Fell, I work for the International Committee of the Red Cross. Obviously, we’re really concerned by misinformation and fake news, but actually my question is more about how much is this going into schools? Isn’t that where we need to be talking to children and giving them critical thinking? I was just wondering if you have…


Salma Abbasi: No, that’s lovely. Lovely question. We actually started in schools. We’re working actively in schools in the UK, actually in seven countries, listening to them and asking them that. So we’re continuously researching the lived experiences. We’ve been working in Malaysia, love to work in Indonesia and in the UAE and inshallah soon in Burkina Faso. It all begins with the children, which is why I think you came in late. I was talking about the brain and the brain development and the impact and there’s a paper that’s going to be online today. I’m just launching it, it’s here. Anybody wants it, please, I’ll post it on my LinkedIn today. It’s called the Hidden Public Health Crisis, the influence of social media and gaming on physiological, psychological and social impact on children’s health. I’m calling the public health crisis. This needs the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of Education, the Ministry of ICT and the Ministry of Justice to work together. It’s a collaborative effort that’s needed to change the education curriculum also and parenting. In the UK with my partner, Sarah Pinnock, we’ve launched a programme on digital parenting. Parents think the kids are in the room when they’re safe. They don’t understand, why do you need your telephone in your bedroom? That’s the first thing. So there’s little tiny tips for the parents and for the children and we start in primary school. We’re trying to teach parents this is not a digital babysitter. It’s a dangerous tool. The iPads you see as you go in shopping centres where three-year-olds are getting autism from being bombarded with this. So there’s a lot of fantastic research that’s talking about this. The thing is that we need to take action. So we will, we will, if there’s any one more question. Ah, because I want you to do the closing. Not right, sorry. Not right now. Sorry, you’re not opening the closing.


Audience: Hi, I also have a question. So, yes, so my name is Carol Constantine and I have a human resources technology company. But my question is, I just saw on the news, Denmark, I don’t know if you are aware, is passing the first comprehensive legislation giving copyrights to each one of us, of our voice, face, and body. So I wanted to share this and ask you, do you think this is the way forward? And what hurdles do you see there?


Salma Abbasi: Very good. Thank you so much for coming and for sharing. I did not know that. I’m delighted to hear that. What we’ve got here… Salma, I have a question. Can I just answer this one? Where is it? Oh, yeah. Oh, Bhavan, excellent. I wanted him to be a panelist. So what we have is we’ve actually surveyed children and asked them what do they want with the social media, with their data. They not only want to own their data, they want to have the right to destroy the data, and they want to know if their data is being sold. Now, funnily enough, it may not be funny, but funnily enough, the only country in the world that hasn’t signed the UN Convention on the Rights of a Child is United States of America. And that’s so funny because even North Korea and, you know, whether you’re South Sudan, every country has signed this. So we need countries like Indonesia, like Australia, to be forward thinkers in this space, like what Denmark is doing. And we need to have a collective action. Like you were saying, you can only say, can you do this? Regulators have the power to switch off. I know that Indonesia, you have taken the control to switch off things. Brazil, there was a lady here from Brazil, Brazil switched off Twitter or X. We have the power. What we don’t do is exercise it. If we do it collectively, and we’re dealing with, you know, $2 trillion on social media platforms, $700 million, I think it’s billion dollars on cosmetic sales. You have to go and see what is happening to girls, their perception of. Nature, beauty, etc. The boys’ perception from the games that are toxic and violent. Even though we have a new standard coming out on gaming, that behavioral toxic behavior, that machoism that’s penetrating every society, whether it’s Austria, Germany, London or Dubai, it’s all over the place. So we do need a collective call for action. And if I may, because I see the time, we’re five minutes over. I’m very aware. We’re going to move to two things. As I mentioned, we have a draft. It’s a draft. It’s by 36 countries so far. I met the regulator from Nigeria and he said, Salma, why isn’t our name on it? So we would love you to join us with the IEEE Working Group to take a look at this. It’s a draft. And if you know me, I’m a revision person, goes up to Rev 21, because it’s only going to get better with your ideas and your eyes on the document. The second thing is that I would like you to read what the children think about terms and conditions and sit down with your children and discuss, because you pay the telephone bill. I had this very gentle, nice conversation. Children don’t work well when you tell them not to do it. It’s got to be reasoning and logic. And I think having young people like Sammy to make videos on how to be safe online, peer-to-peer communication is working with us in schools, secondary school with primaries. You need that trusted adult, young adult to be the coach. And then the final thing, which is very important for me, is to spread the word that everything online is not true. I’m a professor of ethical AI. Please believe me that rubbish is progressing with rubbish as misinformation is missing out all of our human values. If it’s not digitized, it doesn’t exist. It means when I have a cold and I have ginger and lemon, because my mother said it, unless it’s online, we will never use it. So those hidden recipes and remedies are really As you can see, we have a very, very important task. And what I would like to do is ask two wonderful people to give the closing remark. Just two minutes. One is Sami. And then with my dear younger sister Gitanjali from the, the ITU, who is organizing this wonderful Wishes Forum, to please say the closing remarks. So, sir.


Sami Galal: So, to solve this major problem that’s been becoming more and more frequent in modern society, I have a few recommendations. So starting off with parents, which I consider to be the first line of defense, parents should know not to give the phone to the child. As Ms. Salma said, it’s like a digital babysitter. So even when the parent has to go and do an activity and it’s easier to give the phone to the child, they should only do that as a last resort after trying some more interactive activities to keep the child occupied while they have to do their things. Then moving on to the governments, which I consider to be the second line of defense. Governments should raise awareness to the parents and to the children. They should raise awareness to the parents by telling them what the risks of their child being online is and what they can do to prevent it. We know that parents don’t specifically have that much time in their day-to-day lives. So they could do it in like a journal type of way or on a radio show that they could listen to on the way to work. So it’s non-time consuming, but they could be informed about that. And for the children, once they do find themselves online, the terms and conditions should be interactive in a way for the child to actually understand it and understand how much time he should stay online and what the risks are that he might encounter while being online. Additionally, the private sectors have a moral responsibility, like the gaming companies. and the social media companies, they have to be morally correct and to inform these young children on the dangers that they could face online. So although this is a tough task, with the help of everyone, we can make screens in positive experience with no negative outcome for these young children.


Salma Abbasi: Absolutely wonderful. I think this is really lovely and a holistic way of looking at the situation and of how we move forward. And I think establishing and enforcing a duty of care for the regulators, the families and all stakeholders, supporting independent interdisciplinary research, so we can really understand what is going on and how to address it best in schools and in our homes. Investing in global digital literacy and public awareness campaigns is a must in every language we can think of. And ensuring multi-stakeholder engagement, and most importantly, youth participation, not just to sit here, but to actively write and edit the reports that we’re producing, which is so important. So over to you, Gitanjali.


Gitanjali Sah: Thank you, Dr. Abasi, and apologies that Secretary General could not join you. She’s running around all over AI and VISIS. So this is really important work, and I think you also pointed on educators, really important that the teachers are guiding our children as well. I am also one of those parents who are guilty as charged using the mobile as a babysitter. It is a fact that the parents and the educators, because in my child’s school, they really have classes, they have lessons which tell them about what is wrong in the internet, the darknet, and the awareness that we spoke about. There was this episode in Netflix about adolescence, and that created so much awareness amongst so many of us. It was like a real shocker that this is happening. And I think this made me I also wanted to talk about the biases in the AI algorithms. I don’t know if you covered that, but yes, so that is another very important part, especially for gender discrimination. And of course now for children, older persons, and also really the engineers have to be aware. He said it’s a moral responsibility. The private sector engineers have to be involved in it. And really the moral responsibility of the global community. So the United Nations ITU is committed to continue providing you with these kind of platforms to get together, to ensure that these dialogues are happening, but they don’t just remain dialogues. They are calls for action. And for example, the outcomes of this high-level event are going into the United Nations General Assembly, the UNGA overall review, where we can actually make a difference. So really, Dr. Abbasi, if you have a call for action coming out of this meeting, it will go into the chair’s report and we will put it into the UNGA overall review. Thank you so much.


Salma Abbasi: Thank you. Thank you so much. I would like to thank my panelists before they all run away, that it was really wonderful, all the different contexts that you’ve shared. And I’d like to have one picture with you all. Thank you.


S

Sami Galal

Speech speed

171 words per minute

Speech length

682 words

Speech time

238 seconds

Screen time negatively affects multiple brain regions including prefrontal cortex, hippocampus, and visual cortex, leading to emotional regulation problems, learning difficulties, and vision issues

Explanation

Sami’s research on children aged 0-5 found that screens impact various parts of the brain negatively. The prefrontal cortex disruption leads to trouble regulating emotional behavior and social interactions, hippocampus disruption causes problems with learning and memory processing, and visual cortex disruption leads to myopia.


Evidence

Research focused on children aged 0-5; prefrontal cortex is one of the last brain areas to mature and serves as the personality center; hippocampus handles learning and memory tasks used in schoolwork; visual cortex processes visual information and disruption causes myopia (near-sightedness)


Major discussion point

Impact of Digital Technologies on Children’s Development


Topics

Child safety online | Children rights | Online education


Agreed with

– Salma Abbasi
– Elise Elena Mola

Agreed on

Digital platforms exploit children’s vulnerabilities and cause developmental harm


Terms and conditions should be interactive and understandable for children to comprehend online risks and time limits

Explanation

As part of his recommendations for addressing digital risks, Sami argues that when children find themselves online, the terms and conditions should be presented in an interactive way that helps them understand both the time they should spend online and the potential risks they might encounter.


Evidence

Part of a broader recommendation system including parental responsibility and government awareness campaigns


Major discussion point

Technical Standards and Solutions


Topics

Child safety online | Children rights | Content policy


Parents, governments, and private sector companies all have moral responsibilities as different lines of defense

Explanation

Sami proposes a multi-layered defense system where parents serve as the first line of defense by avoiding using phones as digital babysitters, governments act as the second line by raising awareness, and private sector companies have moral responsibilities to inform children about online dangers.


Evidence

Parents should try interactive activities before resorting to phones; governments can use time-efficient methods like radio shows; gaming and social media companies must be morally correct in informing children


Major discussion point

Call for Collective Action


Topics

Child safety online | Children rights | Consumer protection


Agreed with

– Salma Abbasi
– Aminata Zerbo
– Gitanjali Sah

Agreed on

Multi-stakeholder responsibility and collective action needed


S

Salma Abbasi

Speech speed

150 words per minute

Speech length

2865 words

Speech time

1139 seconds

Digital platforms exploit children’s psychological vulnerabilities through dopamine-driven algorithms that disrupt brain development and promote instant gratification

Explanation

Salma argues that digital platforms are designed to exploit children’s psychological well-being by stimulating their vulnerabilities through algorithms that trigger dopamine responses. This disrupts normal brain development and creates patterns of instant gratification that cause developmental problems.


Evidence

Research on dopamine-driven algorithms; links to screen time overuse and poor sleep; hidden developmental issues not widely covered; design exploitation of psychological vulnerabilities


Major discussion point

Impact of Digital Technologies on Children’s Development


Topics

Child safety online | Children rights | Content policy


Agreed with

– Sami Galal
– Elise Elena Mola

Agreed on

Digital platforms exploit children’s vulnerabilities and cause developmental harm


Technology-facilitated gender-based violence and exposure to toxic content is normalizing violence and creating harmful attitudes toward gender

Explanation

Salma contends that exposure to misogyny, hate speech, and toxic culture online through social media and gaming is normalizing violence and creating regressive attitudes toward gender. This is contributing to increased technology-facilitated gender-based violence and violent incidents among children.


Evidence

UK experienced drastic polarization due to misinformation; exposure to misogynistic content and hate speech; violent stabbing and shooting incidents increasing globally as children blend online and offline worlds


Major discussion point

Impact of Digital Technologies on Children’s Development


Topics

Child safety online | Gender rights online | Content policy


Self-harm and suicide rates show alarming 96% correlation with cases involving either harming others or self-harm

Explanation

Based on research across 14 countries, Salma presents alarming statistics showing that 96% of cases studied involve either children killing someone else or engaging in self-harm/suicide. She characterizes this as a hidden public health crisis requiring immediate action.


Evidence

Synthesis of cases across 14 countries; 96% statistic of cases involving killing others or self-harm; calls it a public health crisis


Major discussion point

Impact of Digital Technologies on Children’s Development


Topics

Child safety online | Children rights | Human rights principles


Children want ownership of their data, the right to destroy it, and transparency about data sales

Explanation

Through surveys of children’s lived experiences, Salma found that children not only want to own their data but also want the right to destroy their data and to know when their data is being sold. This represents children’s desire for greater control over their digital footprint.


Evidence

Survey of children’s lived experiences online; children’s specific requests regarding data ownership, destruction rights, and transparency about data sales


Major discussion point

Technical Standards and Solutions


Topics

Children rights | Privacy and data protection | Consumer protection


Multi-stakeholder engagement including youth participation in writing and editing reports is crucial for effective solutions

Explanation

Salma emphasizes that addressing digital threats requires not just multi-stakeholder engagement but active youth participation where young people don’t just attend meetings but actively contribute to writing and editing the reports and solutions being developed.


Evidence

Draft guidelines written by children for children; 36 countries participating in collaborative efforts; youth-led content creation for terms and conditions


Major discussion point

Call for Collective Action


Topics

Children rights | Interdisciplinary approaches | Human rights principles


Agreed with

– Sami Galal
– Aminata Zerbo
– Gitanjali Sah

Agreed on

Multi-stakeholder responsibility and collective action needed


A

Aminata Zerbo

Speech speed

86 words per minute

Speech length

451 words

Speech time

311 seconds

AI-generated content including deepfakes poses serious threats to public trust and democratic processes, especially affecting vulnerable populations

Explanation

Minister Zerbo argues that the ability to manipulate images, sounds, facts, and emotions through AI technologies like deepfakes is no longer science fiction but presents major challenges to society. These technologies weaken truth, destabilize institutions, and spread falsified content, particularly affecting vulnerable populations like children.


Evidence

Context of geopolitical instability; digital environment as strategic sphere of influence; children exposed to manipulative content, toxic games, and deviant influencers; emergence of digital culture marked by misogyny and sexual exploitation


Major discussion point

Misinformation and Disinformation Challenges


Topics

Child safety online | Content policy | Human rights principles


Burkina Faso is implementing structural actions including awareness campaigns and developing AI ethics regulations while strengthening international cooperation

Explanation

In response to digital challenges, Burkina Faso’s government is taking comprehensive action including awareness-raising campaigns for students, developing legal regulations for ethical AI use, and strengthening cooperation with international partners. The goal is to create human-centered AI that serves social cohesion rather than manipulation.


Evidence

Awareness campaigns for school and high school students; legal framework development for ethical AI use respecting fundamental rights, transparency, and accountability; cooperation with international partners for detection and response mechanisms


Major discussion point

Regulatory and Policy Responses


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Human rights principles | Capacity development


Responses to digital threats must be collective, united, and adapted to respective national contexts rather than one-size-fits-all solutions

Explanation

Minister Zerbo emphasizes that addressing digital threats requires collective action that is adapted to different national contexts rather than importing global solutions developed elsewhere. She advocates for strengthening national capacities, regional cooperation, and harmonizing ethical standards as common tools.


Evidence

Burkina Faso’s commitment to contribute to trusted digital space; emphasis on protecting youth and guaranteeing human rights; focus on strengthening national capacities and regional cooperation


Major discussion point

Call for Collective Action


Topics

Human rights principles | Capacity development | Interdisciplinary approaches


Agreed with

– Yu Ping Chan
– Mactar Seck
– Audience

Agreed on

Need for locally adapted, contextually appropriate solutions


F

Fifi Aleyda Yahya

Speech speed

116 words per minute

Speech length

503 words

Speech time

259 seconds

Indonesia has adopted comprehensive approaches including delaying social media access to 17-18 years old and establishing AI ethics principles

Explanation

Indonesia has implemented a multi-faceted approach to address AI-driven misinformation, including regulatory measures that delay independent social media access for teenagers until 17-18 years old (requiring parental supervision before that age) and establishing ethical AI principles for responsible, transparent, and human-centered AI development.


Evidence

Government regulation protecting children’s rights and safety; delaying social media access to 17-18 years old while allowing gadget use; AI ethics guidelines establishing core principles for responsible AI development; collaboration with digital platforms and international partners


Major discussion point

Regulatory and Policy Responses


Topics

Child safety online | Children rights | Legal and regulatory


Disagreed with

– Elise Elena Mola

Disagreed on

Regulatory approach – age restrictions vs. comprehensive frameworks


A

AHM Bazlur Rahman

Speech speed

101 words per minute

Speech length

377 words

Speech time

223 seconds

Misinformation and disinformation pollute the entire information ecosystem and threaten human progress by promoting violent extremism and undermining democracies

Explanation

Rahman argues that misinformation and disinformation fundamentally compromise information integrity by polluting the entire information ecosystem. This pollution has serious consequences including promoting violent extremism, hate speech, polarizing public opinion, and ultimately undermining democratic processes and reducing trust in democratic institutions.


Evidence

Information integrity defined as accuracy, consistency, and reliability; propaganda and fake news potential to polarize opinion and promote violent extremism; impact on democratic processes and public trust


Major discussion point

Misinformation and Disinformation Challenges


Topics

Content policy | Human rights principles | Freedom of expression


Youth resilience programs in Bangladesh use hyperlocal Facebook page development and social media training to counter misinformation at grassroots level

Explanation

Bangladesh has implemented a comprehensive youth resilience program that operates at both national and grassroots levels. The grassroots approach uses hyperlocal methods, including Facebook page development for rural youth and social media training to counter misinformation through community engagement.


Evidence

Youth Resilience to Misinformation project with national and grassroots components; hyperlocal method using Facebook pages; identification of youth communities; social media stakeholder analysis; orientation programs for critical analysis skills; audiovisual content development


Major discussion point

Grassroots and Community Initiatives


Topics

Capacity development | Digital access | Online education


E

Elise Elena Mola

Speech speed

106 words per minute

Speech length

245 words

Speech time

138 seconds

Current EU AI Act requirements focus on corporate efficiency rather than teaching society how to interact safely with AI systems

Explanation

Mola identifies a significant disconnect between policy requirements and societal needs. While the EU AI Act includes AI literacy requirements, these focus on helping corporations use AI tools for efficiency and automation rather than teaching people the critical AI skills needed to understand how algorithms manipulate perception and behavior on social media platforms.


Evidence

Experience helping companies implement EU AI Act; AI literacy requirements focused on corporate efficiency; lack of skills to understand algorithmic manipulation on social media


Major discussion point

Regulatory and Policy Responses


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Online education | Human rights principles


Disagreed with

– Fifi Aleyda Yahya

Disagreed on

Regulatory approach – age restrictions vs. comprehensive frameworks


AI algorithms on platforms like TikTok can expose young men to extreme right-wing propaganda and misogynistic content within 20 minutes

Explanation

Mola cites research showing how quickly AI algorithms can manipulate users by exposing them to extreme content. The algorithms are designed to maximize screen time by playing to users’ most vulnerable evolutionary aspects, creating an ‘outrage machine’ that keeps people engaged through anger and hate.


Evidence

Studies showing exposure to extreme right-wing propaganda, violence, and misogynist content within 20 minutes on TikTok; algorithms designed to maximize screen time; creation of ‘outrage machine’ through emotional manipulation


Major discussion point

Misinformation and Disinformation Challenges


Topics

Child safety online | Content policy | Gender rights online


Agreed with

– Sami Galal
– Salma Abbasi

Agreed on

Digital platforms exploit children’s vulnerabilities and cause developmental harm


Y

Yu Ping Chan

Speech speed

189 words per minute

Speech length

485 words

Speech time

153 seconds

UNDP supports over 10 countries with tools like eMonitor and iVerify to address hate speech and technology-facilitated gender-based violence

Explanation

UNDP, as the development arm of the UN present in 170 countries, provides comprehensive support to developing countries in building digital resilience. They work with over 10 countries using specific tools like eMonitor for hate speech and technology-facilitated gender-based violence, and iVerify for enhanced fact-checking, while developing a digital kit for democracy.


Evidence

UNDP presence in 170 countries; eMonitor tool for hate speech and technology-facilitated GBV; iVerify for fact-checking; digital kit for democracy development; focus on locally relevant, culturally sensitive solutions


Major discussion point

Grassroots and Community Initiatives


Topics

Capacity development | Gender rights online | Human rights principles


Agreed with

– Aminata Zerbo
– Mactar Seck
– Audience

Agreed on

Need for locally adapted, contextually appropriate solutions


M

Mactar Seck

Speech speed

128 words per minute

Speech length

521 words

Speech time

244 seconds

Over 400 million people connected to social media in Africa face challenges from misinformation promoting violence, terrorism, and gender violence

Explanation

Dr. Seck highlights the scale of the challenge in Africa, where over 400 million social media users are exposed to misinformation and disinformation that promotes various forms of violence, terrorism, and gender-based violence. He emphasizes that this is not just a national issue but a continental challenge affecting democratic processes and security.


Evidence

400+ million social media users in Africa; misinformation promoting violence, terrorism, and gender violence; impact on democracy and elections; examples from Sahel region including Mali, Burkina Faso, and Niger; diaspora influence on information spread


Major discussion point

Misinformation and Disinformation Challenges


Topics

Content policy | Gender rights online | Violent extremism


African countries are developing continental AI strategy frameworks and national policies incorporating misinformation and gender violence considerations

Explanation

UNECA is working at both continental and national levels to address misinformation challenges. They have developed continental frameworks including AI strategy, cybersecurity policy, and guidelines for member states, while supporting 10-14 countries in developing national AI policies that specifically address misinformation, disinformation, and gender violence.


Evidence

AI strategy framework for Africa; continental cybersecurity policy; cybersecurity guidelines for member states; 10-14 countries with national AI policies; platform development with Gambia for monitoring disinformation; applications for monitoring hate speech in Kenya


Major discussion point

Regulatory and Policy Responses


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Capacity development | Gender rights online


Agreed with

– Aminata Zerbo
– Yu Ping Chan
– Audience

Agreed on

Need for locally adapted, contextually appropriate solutions


I

IEEE representative

Speech speed

138 words per minute

Speech length

522 words

Speech time

226 seconds

IEEE is developing standards for age-appropriate design, age verification, and e-gaming to ensure products consider what’s appropriate for different age groups

Explanation

IEEE, as the world’s largest technical professional organization with 500,000+ members in 190 countries, is developing comprehensive technical standards to address age-appropriate access to digital content. Their standards cover age-appropriate design principles, age verification methods, and e-gaming guidelines to ensure products are designed with appropriate safeguards for different age groups.


Evidence

IEEE membership of 500,000+ in 190 countries; collaboration with Five Rights and eWorldwide; age-appropriate design standard; age verification standard released earlier in the year; upcoming e-gaming standard; work with Indonesia on implementation


Major discussion point

Technical Standards and Solutions


Topics

Digital standards | Child safety online | Children rights


G

Gitanjali Sah

Speech speed

167 words per minute

Speech length

316 words

Speech time

113 seconds

Outcomes from discussions should translate into actionable policies at international forums like the UN General Assembly

Explanation

Gitanjali emphasizes that the ITU is committed to ensuring that dialogues don’t remain just conversations but become calls for action. She explains that outcomes from high-level events like this workshop feed into the UN General Assembly overall review process, where real policy differences can be made at the international level.


Evidence

ITU commitment to providing platforms for dialogue; outcomes feeding into UN General Assembly overall review; chair’s report integration; potential for real policy impact at international level


Major discussion point

Call for Collective Action


Topics

Human rights principles | Interdisciplinary approaches | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Sami Galal
– Salma Abbasi
– Aminata Zerbo

Agreed on

Multi-stakeholder responsibility and collective action needed


A

Audience

Speech speed

130 words per minute

Speech length

387 words

Speech time

177 seconds

Training programs for critical thinking and working with caretakers beyond parents are essential components of comprehensive approaches

Explanation

An audience member from Colombia’s regulatory authority shared their multi-faceted approach which includes training for critical thinking through gamified courses and recognizing that children aren’t always with parents. They emphasize the need to train all caretakers including those in kindergartens and other care settings, as these individuals play crucial roles in children’s digital safety.


Evidence

Colombia’s open course with gamification for critical thinking; fieldwork and surveys with caretakers; recognition that children are often with other caretakers beyond parents; training for kindergarten staff and other caregivers


Major discussion point

Grassroots and Community Initiatives


Topics

Online education | Capacity development | Children rights


Agreed with

– Aminata Zerbo
– Yu Ping Chan
– Mactar Seck

Agreed on

Need for locally adapted, contextually appropriate solutions


Agreements

Agreement points

Multi-stakeholder responsibility and collective action needed

Speakers

– Sami Galal
– Salma Abbasi
– Aminata Zerbo
– Gitanjali Sah

Arguments

Parents, governments, and private sector companies all have moral responsibilities as different lines of defense


Multi-stakeholder engagement including youth participation in writing and editing reports is crucial for effective solutions


Responses to digital threats must be collective, united, and adapted to respective national contexts rather than one-size-fits-all solutions


Outcomes from discussions should translate into actionable policies at international forums like the UN General Assembly


Summary

All speakers agree that addressing digital threats requires coordinated action across multiple stakeholders including parents, governments, private sector, and international organizations, with each having distinct but complementary responsibilities


Topics

Human rights principles | Children rights | Interdisciplinary approaches


Digital platforms exploit children’s vulnerabilities and cause developmental harm

Speakers

– Sami Galal
– Salma Abbasi
– Elise Elena Mola

Arguments

Screen time negatively affects multiple brain regions including prefrontal cortex, hippocampus, and visual cortex, leading to emotional regulation problems, learning difficulties, and vision issues


Digital platforms exploit children’s psychological vulnerabilities through dopamine-driven algorithms that disrupt brain development and promote instant gratification


AI algorithms on platforms like TikTok can expose young men to extreme right-wing propaganda and misogynistic content within 20 minutes


Summary

There is strong consensus that digital platforms are designed in ways that exploit children’s psychological and neurological vulnerabilities, causing measurable harm to brain development and exposing them to harmful content


Topics

Child safety online | Children rights | Content policy


Need for locally adapted, contextually appropriate solutions

Speakers

– Aminata Zerbo
– Yu Ping Chan
– Mactar Seck
– Audience

Arguments

Responses to digital threats must be collective, united, and adapted to respective national contexts rather than one-size-fits-all solutions


UNDP supports over 10 countries with tools like eMonitor and iVerify to address hate speech and technology-facilitated gender-based violence


African countries are developing continental AI strategy frameworks and national policies incorporating misinformation and gender violence considerations


Training programs for critical thinking and working with caretakers beyond parents are essential components of comprehensive approaches


Summary

Speakers from different regions emphasize the importance of developing solutions that are adapted to local contexts, cultures, and specific national challenges rather than importing one-size-fits-all approaches


Topics

Capacity development | Human rights principles | Interdisciplinary approaches


Similar viewpoints

All three speakers identify technology-facilitated gender-based violence and exposure to misogynistic content as major concerns, with algorithms actively promoting harmful gender attitudes and violent content

Speakers

– Salma Abbasi
– Mactar Seck
– Elise Elena Mola

Arguments

Technology-facilitated gender-based violence and exposure to toxic content is normalizing violence and creating harmful attitudes toward gender


Over 400 million people connected to social media in Africa face challenges from misinformation promoting violence, terrorism, and gender violence


AI algorithms on platforms like TikTok can expose young men to extreme right-wing propaganda and misogynistic content within 20 minutes


Topics

Gender rights online | Content policy | Child safety online


These speakers share a focus on age-appropriate access and design, emphasizing the need for technical standards and regulatory approaches that consider developmental appropriateness and children’s rights regarding their digital experiences

Speakers

– Fifi Aleyda Yahya
– IEEE representative
– Salma Abbasi

Arguments

Indonesia has adopted comprehensive approaches including delaying social media access to 17-18 years old and establishing AI ethics principles


IEEE is developing standards for age-appropriate design, age verification, and e-gaming to ensure products consider what’s appropriate for different age groups


Children want ownership of their data, the right to destroy it, and transparency about data sales


Topics

Children rights | Digital standards | Child safety online


These speakers from developing countries share concerns about misinformation and disinformation as threats to democratic processes, social stability, and security, particularly in contexts of political instability

Speakers

– AHM Bazlur Rahman
– Aminata Zerbo
– Mactar Seck

Arguments

Misinformation and disinformation pollute the entire information ecosystem and threaten human progress by promoting violent extremism and undermining democracies


AI-generated content including deepfakes poses serious threats to public trust and democratic processes, especially affecting vulnerable populations


Over 400 million people connected to social media in Africa face challenges from misinformation promoting violence, terrorism, and gender violence


Topics

Content policy | Human rights principles | Violent extremism


Unexpected consensus

Youth as active solution creators rather than passive recipients

Speakers

– Sami Galal
– Salma Abbasi
– Gitanjali Sah

Arguments

Terms and conditions should be interactive and understandable for children to comprehend online risks and time limits


Multi-stakeholder engagement including youth participation in writing and editing reports is crucial for effective solutions


Outcomes from discussions should translate into actionable policies at international forums like the UN General Assembly


Explanation

Unexpectedly, there was strong consensus on positioning young people not just as victims needing protection, but as active participants in creating solutions, writing guidelines, and contributing to policy development. This represents a shift from traditional protective approaches to empowerment-based strategies


Topics

Children rights | Human rights principles | Interdisciplinary approaches


Private sector moral responsibility beyond regulatory compliance

Speakers

– Sami Galal
– Salma Abbasi
– Elise Elena Mola

Arguments

Parents, governments, and private sector companies all have moral responsibilities as different lines of defense


Digital platforms exploit children’s psychological vulnerabilities through dopamine-driven algorithms that disrupt brain development and promote instant gratification


Current EU AI Act requirements focus on corporate efficiency rather than teaching society how to interact safely with AI systems


Explanation

There was unexpected consensus that private sector companies have moral responsibilities that go beyond legal compliance, with speakers calling for fundamental changes in how platforms are designed rather than just regulatory oversight. This represents a shift toward ethical business practices as a core requirement


Topics

Children rights | Content policy | Human rights principles


Overall assessment

Summary

The discussion revealed remarkably strong consensus across diverse speakers from different regions and sectors on key issues: the need for multi-stakeholder collective action, the harmful impact of current digital platform designs on children, the importance of locally adapted solutions, and the positioning of youth as active solution creators. There was also unexpected agreement on private sector moral responsibility and the inadequacy of current regulatory approaches.


Consensus level

High level of consensus with significant implications for policy development. The agreement spans technical, regulatory, and ethical dimensions, suggesting a mature understanding of the challenges and potential for coordinated global action. The consensus on youth empowerment and private sector moral responsibility indicates potential for innovative approaches that go beyond traditional regulatory frameworks. This level of agreement among diverse stakeholders suggests strong foundation for developing comprehensive, multi-faceted solutions to digital threats facing children.


Differences

Different viewpoints

Regulatory approach – age restrictions vs. comprehensive frameworks

Speakers

– Fifi Aleyda Yahya
– Elise Elena Mola

Arguments

Indonesia has adopted comprehensive approaches including delaying social media access to 17-18 years old and establishing AI ethics principles


Current EU AI Act requirements focus on corporate efficiency rather than teaching society how to interact safely with AI systems


Summary

Indonesia advocates for specific age-based restrictions (delaying social media access until 17-18), while the EU approach focuses on corporate compliance and efficiency rather than user education and safety skills


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Child safety online | Children rights


Unexpected differences

Focus on technical standards vs. policy implementation

Speakers

– IEEE representative
– Elise Elena Mola

Arguments

IEEE is developing standards for age-appropriate design, age verification, and e-gaming to ensure products consider what’s appropriate for different age groups


Current EU AI Act requirements focus on corporate efficiency rather than teaching society how to interact safely with AI systems


Explanation

Unexpectedly, both speakers work in technical/regulatory spaces but have different perspectives – IEEE focuses on creating technical standards for age-appropriate design, while Mola criticizes existing regulations for missing the mark on actual user safety education


Topics

Digital standards | Legal and regulatory | Child safety online


Overall assessment

Summary

The discussion showed remarkable consensus on identifying problems (misinformation threats, child safety concerns, need for collective action) but revealed subtle disagreements on implementation approaches – ranging from age-based restrictions vs. education-focused solutions, international frameworks vs. locally-adapted responses, and technical standards vs. policy reform


Disagreement level

Low to moderate disagreement level with high consensus on problems but divergent views on solutions. This suggests a mature policy discussion where stakeholders agree on challenges but bring different expertise and contextual perspectives to solutions, which could be complementary rather than conflicting if properly coordinated


Partial agreements

Partial agreements

Similar viewpoints

All three speakers identify technology-facilitated gender-based violence and exposure to misogynistic content as major concerns, with algorithms actively promoting harmful gender attitudes and violent content

Speakers

– Salma Abbasi
– Mactar Seck
– Elise Elena Mola

Arguments

Technology-facilitated gender-based violence and exposure to toxic content is normalizing violence and creating harmful attitudes toward gender


Over 400 million people connected to social media in Africa face challenges from misinformation promoting violence, terrorism, and gender violence


AI algorithms on platforms like TikTok can expose young men to extreme right-wing propaganda and misogynistic content within 20 minutes


Topics

Gender rights online | Content policy | Child safety online


These speakers share a focus on age-appropriate access and design, emphasizing the need for technical standards and regulatory approaches that consider developmental appropriateness and children’s rights regarding their digital experiences

Speakers

– Fifi Aleyda Yahya
– IEEE representative
– Salma Abbasi

Arguments

Indonesia has adopted comprehensive approaches including delaying social media access to 17-18 years old and establishing AI ethics principles


IEEE is developing standards for age-appropriate design, age verification, and e-gaming to ensure products consider what’s appropriate for different age groups


Children want ownership of their data, the right to destroy it, and transparency about data sales


Topics

Children rights | Digital standards | Child safety online


These speakers from developing countries share concerns about misinformation and disinformation as threats to democratic processes, social stability, and security, particularly in contexts of political instability

Speakers

– AHM Bazlur Rahman
– Aminata Zerbo
– Mactar Seck

Arguments

Misinformation and disinformation pollute the entire information ecosystem and threaten human progress by promoting violent extremism and undermining democracies


AI-generated content including deepfakes poses serious threats to public trust and democratic processes, especially affecting vulnerable populations


Over 400 million people connected to social media in Africa face challenges from misinformation promoting violence, terrorism, and gender violence


Topics

Content policy | Human rights principles | Violent extremism


Takeaways

Key takeaways

Digital technologies are causing a ‘hidden public health crisis’ affecting children’s physiological, psychological, and social development through screen time exposure and dopamine-driven algorithms


AI-generated misinformation and disinformation pose serious threats to democratic processes, public trust, and social cohesion, particularly affecting vulnerable populations including children


Technology-facilitated gender-based violence and exposure to toxic online content is normalizing violence and creating harmful societal attitudes


Current regulatory frameworks and corporate AI literacy requirements are insufficient – they focus on efficiency rather than teaching society safe AI interaction


Collective, multi-stakeholder action is essential, requiring collaboration between parents, governments, private sector, and international organizations


Age-appropriate design standards and interactive terms and conditions are needed to protect children online


Local, culturally sensitive solutions are more effective than one-size-fits-all global approaches


Youth participation in developing solutions and peer-to-peer education programs show promising results


Resolutions and action items

Expand the draft guidelines for children’s safe engagement on social media and gaming platforms beyond the current 36 countries with IEEE Working Group collaboration


Launch the ‘Hidden Public Health Crisis’ report online and distribute widely to raise awareness


Implement digital parenting education programs and peer-to-peer communication initiatives in schools


Develop interactive terms and conditions that children can understand, written by children for children


Submit outcomes from this discussion to the UN General Assembly overall review through the chair’s report


Establish multi-ministry collaboration involving Health, Education, ICT, and Justice departments to address the crisis holistically


Create global digital literacy and public awareness campaigns in multiple languages


Develop technical standards for age-appropriate design, age verification, and e-gaming through IEEE


Unresolved issues

Limited regulatory authority over international platforms – many regulators can only influence traditional service providers, not global social media platforms


Enforcement mechanisms for collective action against trillion-dollar social media companies remain unclear


Specific implementation timelines and funding mechanisms for proposed initiatives were not established


How to balance freedom of expression with protection from harmful content across different cultural contexts


Technical challenges in age verification and content filtering without compromising privacy


Addressing the gap between policy discussions and actual corporate implementation practices


Scaling successful local initiatives to global implementation


Suggested compromises

Delaying social media access to 17-18 years old rather than complete bans, allowing supervised access before that age


Using codes of conduct and guidelines for platforms where direct regulation is not possible


Implementing gradual awareness campaigns through accessible formats like radio shows and journals for time-constrained parents


Developing locally relevant, culturally sensitive solutions rather than imposing universal standards


Creating voluntary industry standards through organizations like IEEE while working toward regulatory frameworks


Focusing on education and critical thinking skills alongside technological solutions


Thought provoking comments

I am calling this a public health crisis and a hidden public health crisis. And the synthesis of all of the cases that we have covered over 14 countries show an alarming significance of self-harm and suicide. And it’s 96%, which is a very big problem of those cases that exist are either killing somebody or killing yourself.

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Reason

This comment reframes the entire discussion by positioning digital misinformation and harmful content not as a technology or education issue, but as a public health emergency. The 96% statistic linking cases to self-harm or violence against others is particularly striking and elevates the urgency of the problem beyond typical policy discussions.


Impact

This framing set the tone for the entire workshop, establishing the gravity of the situation and justifying the need for multi-ministerial collaboration (Health, Education, ICT, Justice). It influenced subsequent speakers to address the issue with corresponding urgency and seriousness.


When you’re on screens, you don’t have to put the same effort as when you’re doing physical activities, which just makes the reward that more enjoyable, as you don’t have to put in the work and you get the same effect.

Speaker

Sami Galal


Reason

This insight from a young person provides a peer perspective on the neurological addiction mechanism that adults often struggle to articulate. The comment demonstrates sophisticated understanding of dopamine pathways and reward systems, showing how children themselves can understand and explain the science behind their own digital experiences.


Impact

This comment validated the scientific approach to the discussion while demonstrating that young people can be active participants in understanding and solving the problem, not just passive victims. It reinforced the importance of peer-to-peer education and youth participation in solutions.


There was some interesting studies done, for example, that within 20 minutes of using TikTok, young men are shown extreme right-wing propaganda, violence, misogynist content. And what we’re missing is understanding, you know, how is the AI algorithm manipulating us and playing to our most vulnerable evolutionary aspects in order to maximize our screen time.

Speaker

Elise Elena Mola


Reason

This comment bridges the gap between technical AI implementation in corporations and real-world social consequences. The specific timeframe (20 minutes) makes the threat tangible and immediate, while connecting algorithmic manipulation to evolutionary psychology adds depth to understanding why these systems are so effective.


Impact

This shifted the discussion from general concerns about misinformation to specific, measurable algorithmic manipulation tactics. It highlighted the disconnect between corporate AI governance (focused on efficiency) and societal AI literacy needs (focused on recognizing manipulation).


We are delaying the age for our teenagers to be able to access social media. But we’re not banning them to use the gadget, just delaying them 17 to 18 years old. So they can, at that age, after that age, they can access social media independently without parents’ supervision.

Speaker

Fifi Aleyda Yahya


Reason

This represents a concrete, implemented policy solution that balances protection with rights. The distinction between device access and social media access shows nuanced policy thinking that addresses developmental concerns while maintaining digital literacy opportunities.


Impact

This provided a practical example of how countries can take proactive regulatory action, influencing the discussion toward concrete policy solutions rather than just problem identification. It demonstrated that protective measures don’t require complete digital restriction.


The only country in the world that hasn’t signed the UN Convention on the Rights of a Child is United States of America. And that’s so funny because even North Korea and, you know, whether you’re South Sudan, every country has signed this.

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Reason

This comment exposes a fundamental irony in global child protection efforts and challenges assumptions about which countries lead in children’s rights. It highlights how geopolitical considerations can override child welfare concerns even in developed nations.


Impact

This observation reframed the discussion from developed vs. developing country perspectives to show that leadership in child protection can come from unexpected sources. It empowered Global South participants to see themselves as potential leaders rather than followers in this space.


Parents should know not to give the phone to the child. As Ms. Salma said, it’s like a digital babysitter. So even when the parent has to go and do an activity and it’s easier to give the phone to the child, they should only do that as a last resort after trying some more interactive activities.

Speaker

Sami Galal


Reason

This comment from a young person directly addressing parental behavior is particularly powerful because it comes from the demographic being protected. The practical acknowledgment of parental convenience while still advocating for limits shows mature understanding of real-world constraints.


Impact

This shifted the discussion from top-down policy solutions to ground-level behavioral changes, emphasizing that effective solutions require changes in daily family practices, not just regulatory frameworks.


Overall assessment

These key comments fundamentally shaped the discussion by elevating it from a typical technology policy conversation to a multi-dimensional crisis requiring urgent, coordinated action. The framing as a ‘hidden public health crisis’ established the gravity and cross-sectoral nature of required solutions. The inclusion of youth voices, particularly Sami’s scientific and practical insights, demonstrated that effective solutions must include those most affected. The concrete policy examples from Indonesia and technical insights about algorithmic manipulation provided both hope and specificity to the discussion. Together, these comments created a comprehensive framework that moved beyond problem identification to actionable, multi-stakeholder solutions while maintaining focus on the most vulnerable populations. The discussion successfully balanced scientific rigor, policy practicality, and human impact, largely due to these pivotal contributions that each added essential dimensions to understanding and addressing the crisis.


Follow-up questions

How can we better understand the hidden developmental issues not currently covered in screen time research?

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Explanation

She mentioned that while research on screen time, overuse, and poor sleep exists, the hidden developmental issues are not adequately covered, indicating a need for deeper investigation into these invisible impacts on children.


How can we develop more sophisticated detection methods for AI-generated content as it becomes more seamless?

Speaker

Fifi Aleyda Yahya


Explanation

She noted that while we can currently spot AI-generated content, it will become more sophisticated and seamless in the near future, requiring advanced detection capabilities.


How can we develop locally relevant, culturally sensitive, contextual solutions for different countries rather than one-size-fits-all approaches?

Speaker

Yu Ping Chan


Explanation

She emphasized that global solutions developed in the West may not be appropriate for all contexts, particularly in developing countries, and local solutions need to be developed.


How can we expand the disinformation monitoring platform developed with Gambia to the continental level across Africa?

Speaker

Mactar Seck


Explanation

He mentioned they developed a platform with Gambia to monitor disinformation and fake news as a first step, and are exploring how to expand this across the African continent.


How can regulators exercise their power to switch off platforms collectively when dealing with harmful content?

Speaker

Salma Abbasi


Explanation

She noted that regulators have the power to switch off platforms (citing examples from Indonesia and Brazil) but often don’t exercise it, suggesting need for research on collective regulatory action.


How can we address biases in AI algorithms, particularly regarding gender discrimination and impacts on children and older persons?

Speaker

Gitanjali Sah


Explanation

She raised the important issue of biases in AI algorithms as another critical area that needs attention, particularly for vulnerable populations.


How can we better train caregivers beyond parents (kindergarten staff, household helpers) who spend time with children?

Speaker

Claudia Bustamante


Explanation

She pointed out that children are not always with their parents but with other caregivers who also need training on digital safety and critical thinking.


What are the implications and potential of comprehensive legislation giving individuals copyrights to their voice, face, and body, as being implemented in Denmark?

Speaker

Carol Constantine


Explanation

She shared information about Denmark’s new legislation and asked about its potential as a way forward and what hurdles might exist in implementing similar measures elsewhere.


How can we better integrate digital literacy and critical thinking about misinformation into school curricula globally?

Speaker

Dr. Eva Fell


Explanation

She emphasized the need to focus on schools as the primary venue for teaching children critical thinking skills about digital content and misinformation.


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Leaders TalkX: Building inclusive and knowledge-driven digital societies

Leaders TalkX: Building inclusive and knowledge-driven digital societies

Session at a glance

Summary

This panel discussion at the WSIS Forum focused on building inclusive and knowledge-driven digital societies, featuring perspectives from telecommunications regulators, NGO leaders, and technology experts from various countries. The session was moderated by Cerys Stansfield from Access Partnership and included participants from Somalia, Uganda, Zimbabwe, Jamaica, Bangladesh, and other organizations, with Dr. Vint Cerf joining remotely.


Mustafa Sheikh from Somalia emphasized the importance of addressing infrastructure deficits, policy fragmentation, and digital literacy gaps in post-conflict nations. He highlighted Somalia’s success with public-private partnerships in developing ICT infrastructure and achieving greater internet penetration. George William Nyambitembo from Uganda discussed the country’s comprehensive approach to digital inclusion, including expanding broadband infrastructure through the Universal Access Fund and training over 500,000 citizens in digital literacy programs.


Dr. Gift Kallisto Machengete from Zimbabwe outlined regulatory initiatives to promote inclusivity, including tower relocation programs for underserved areas, ICT training for persons with disabilities, and gender-focused programs like Girls in ICT. Christopher Reckord from Jamaica shared insights about implementing AI in public services, particularly in education, including AI-assisted paper marking for teachers and the development of AI labs.


Dr. Philip Lee from the World Association for Christian Communication emphasized that communication rights must be foundational to digital governance, calling for democratic data governance and community-led media ecosystems. Dr. Rahman from Bangladesh highlighted the persistent digital divide and the need for stronger coordination between UN agencies and country-level implementation.


Dr. Vint Cerf concluded by discussing AI’s potential to improve accessibility for people with disabilities through voice interaction, automatic captioning, and language translation. The discussion underscored that while significant progress has been made in digital inclusion, substantial challenges remain in bridging the global digital divide and ensuring equitable access to digital resources for all populations.


Keypoints

**Major Discussion Points:**


– **Infrastructure and Digital Divide Challenges**: Multiple speakers emphasized the persistent infrastructure deficits in developing and post-conflict nations, including lack of reliable internet connectivity, stable electricity, and affordable access. Somalia, Uganda, and Zimbabwe shared specific examples of how they’re addressing these foundational barriers through public-private partnerships, tower relocation programs, and universal access funds.


– **Inclusive Access for Marginalized Communities**: A central theme focused on ensuring digital inclusion for underserved populations including rural communities, women, youth, elderly, and persons with disabilities. Speakers discussed targeted programs like digital literacy training, community information centers, assistive technologies, and gender-focused initiatives (Girls in ICT, She Tech programs).


– **AI Implementation and Opportunities**: The discussion explored practical applications of AI in public services, with Jamaica’s AI task force highlighting education sector implementations like automated paper marking and AI chatbots for government services. Dr. Cerf emphasized AI’s potential for accessibility improvements through voice interaction, automatic translation, and assistive technologies for people with disabilities.


– **Governance and Regulatory Frameworks**: Speakers addressed the need for stronger governance structures, consistent regulations, data protection laws, and cybersecurity measures. There was emphasis on the role of telecommunications regulators in building inclusive digital societies and the importance of multi-stakeholder collaboration.


– **Communication Rights and Media Pluralism**: Discussion included the fundamental role of communication as a human right, the need for independent and pluralistic media, and concerns about the commercialization of information access. Speakers called for democratic data governance and community-led voices in media ecosystems.


**Overall Purpose:**


This high-level panel discussion at the WSIS Forum aimed to explore strategies and initiatives for building inclusive and knowledge-driven digital societies, with particular focus on developing nations and marginalized communities. The session served as part of the WSIS Plus 20 review, evaluating progress and identifying future priorities for achieving equitable digital transformation.


**Overall Tone:**


The discussion maintained a professional and collaborative tone throughout, with speakers sharing both achievements and ongoing challenges in a constructive manner. While acknowledging significant progress made over the past 20 years, there was an underlying sense of urgency about persistent digital divides and the need for accelerated action. The tone was realistic about challenges but remained optimistic about solutions, emphasizing the importance of continued multi-stakeholder cooperation and innovative approaches to achieve digital inclusion goals.


Speakers

**Speakers from the provided list:**


– **Vinton Cerf** – Chairman of the Leadership Panel for the Internet Governance Forum, one of the inventors of the internet


– **Christopher Reckord** – Chairman of the National AI Task Force in Jamaica


– **Mustafa Sheik** – Director-General of the National Communications Authority of Somalia


– **Cerys Stansfield** – Tech policy analyst at Access Partnership (international tech public policy consultancy firm), session moderator


– **Gift Kallisto Machengete** – Director-General of the Postal and Telecommunications Regulatory Authority of Zimbabwe


– **AHM Bazlur Rahman** – Chief Executive Officer of the Bangladesh NGOs Network for Radio and Communication, Ambassador for the Global Council for Responsible AI


– **George William Nyombi Thembo** – Executive Director of the Uganda Communications Commission


– **Philip Lee** – General Secretary of the World Association for Christian Communication


**Additional speakers:**


None – all speakers mentioned in the transcript were included in the provided speakers names list.


Full session report

# Building Inclusive and Knowledge-Driven Digital Societies: A Comprehensive Panel Discussion Report


## Executive Summary


This panel discussion at the WSIS Forum brought together telecommunications regulators, NGO leaders, and technology experts to examine strategies for building inclusive and knowledge-driven digital societies. Moderated by Cerys Stansfield from Access Partnership, the session featured Mustafa Sheikh from Somalia’s National Communications Authority, George William Nyambitembo from Uganda’s Communications Commission, Gift Kallisto Machengete from Zimbabwe’s telecommunications authority, Christopher Reckord from Jamaica’s National AI Task Force, Philip Lee from the World Association for Christian Communication, AHM Bazlur Rahman from Bangladesh, and Dr Vint Cerf participating remotely. The discussion formed part of the WSIS Plus 20 review, evaluating two decades of progress whilst identifying future priorities for digital transformation.


## Infrastructure Development as the Foundation


Mustafa Sheikh from Somalia’s National Communications Authority established the framework for understanding digital inclusion challenges, emphasising that “building an inclusive and knowledge-driven digital society is not only a technical challenge, it is a governance challenge, an investment challenge, and above all, a human challenge.” Sheikh highlighted Somalia’s unique context as a post-conflict nation facing infrastructure deficits, policy fragmentation, and digital literacy gaps. Despite these challenges, Somalia has achieved increased internet penetration through public-private partnerships and has begun rolling out 5G networks. However, Sheikh stressed that infrastructure deficit requires long-term coordinated investment strategies and innovative financing models.


George William Nyambitembo from Uganda’s Communications Commission reported that 76% of government offices are now connected through national backbone infrastructure. Uganda’s approach includes targeting north and northeastern regions with solar-powered digital labs, demonstrating how renewable energy solutions can overcome electricity constraints in remote areas. The Universal Access Fund has been instrumental in targeting specific regions with broadband initiatives and satellite licensing for remote communities.


Gift Kallisto Machengete from Zimbabwe’s telecommunications authority outlined innovative approaches to infrastructure sharing, including tower relocation programmes to underserved areas where shared infrastructure makes connectivity viable despite low commercial returns. Zimbabwe has established 202 community information centres in rural areas providing ICT services, government services, and telemedicine.


Dr Vint Cerf, participating remotely after initial technical difficulties, reinforced the foundational importance of connectivity, noting that basic internet access is a fundamental prerequisite for AI and digital technologies to be useful.


## Digital Literacy and Human Capital Development


Sheikh identified low digital skills among both citizens and civil servants as consistent obstacles requiring central focus in digital transformation strategies. This challenge extends beyond basic computer skills to encompass understanding of digital rights, privacy protection, and safe usage practices.


Nyambitembo shared Uganda’s substantial achievements, with over 500,000 citizens trained in digital literacy programmes targeting women, small and medium enterprises, youth, and persons with disabilities. These programmes utilise community-based models implemented under Uganda’s Access to Information Act and Digital Transformation Roadmap 2023-2028.


Machengete highlighted Zimbabwe’s specialised ICT training programmes and assistive technologies for persons with disabilities, including specific initiatives like “Girls in ICT” and “She Tech” programmes that create knowledge transfer within communities.


Cerf emphasised that digital literacy education must include safe usage practices to preserve safety and privacy, particularly as AI technologies become more prevalent.


## Addressing Marginalised Communities and Inclusion Challenges


Sheikh noted that marginalised groups including rural populations, women, and youth are often systematically excluded from digital services, requiring deliberate policy interventions to address structural barriers.


Nyambitembo revealed that 7.5 million Ugandans remain offline with only 40% owning smartphones. Uganda’s response includes targeted interventions through community information centres and mobile digital literacy programmes that bring services directly to underserved communities.


Machengete described Zimbabwe’s community information centres serving as crucial access points for populations who cannot afford individual connectivity. He also noted an often-overlooked aspect of inclusion: “when we leave boys alone, the boys, especially in our areas, they end up doing a lot of drugs, and we need to assist them as well.”


Philip Lee from the World Association for Christian Communication argued that independent and pluralistic media ecosystems need community-led voices to be prioritised over market interests, emphasising that true inclusion requires confronting structural power imbalances.


## Artificial Intelligence Implementation and Opportunities


Christopher Reckord from Jamaica’s National AI Task Force shared concrete examples of AI implementation in the education sector. Jamaica is testing AI tools to help teachers mark papers and establishing AI labs through partnership with India. Reckord highlighted the potential for government-wide AI chatbots to provide comprehensive citizen services access.


Cerf provided compelling perspectives on AI’s potential for accessibility improvements, noting that AI technologies like voice interaction, automatic translation, and automatic captions can significantly improve access for people with disabilities. He personally noted: “I have a language disability. I don’t speak many of the languages that your former speakers speak, and I would need the assistance for that.”


Cerf’s vision of AI agents serving as tutors that ask questions to verify learning rather than just answering them suggests transformative potential for education systems.


## Communication Rights and Democratic Governance


Philip Lee introduced a critical perspective arguing that “communication rights must be foundational to governance discussions, not footnotes,” requiring democratic data governance and public digital infrastructure. Lee asserted that transformation is impossible “without confronting the colonial, racist and sexist legacies embedded in the control of information and knowledge and in the development of digital technologies themselves, including artificial intelligence.”


AHM Bazlur Rahman from Bangladesh provided a critique of current progress, observing that “the access of the information and knowledge sector is fully commercialised and entirely dominated by the corporate sector… Those who have money, they have access to knowledge domain, communication domain. Those who have not money, those who are underserved people, they are not part of this.”


Rahman called for localized action plans that align global WSIS commitments with national priorities whilst fostering multi-stakeholder engagement.


## Policy and Regulatory Framework Challenges


Sheikh identified policy fragmentation and weak governance as fundamental barriers that undermine digital transformation efforts, requiring stronger cybersecurity and data protection measures. In post-conflict contexts, inconsistent regulations and unclear data protection laws limit public trust and project continuity.


Nyambitembo highlighted how comprehensive legal frameworks, including Uganda’s National Development Plan and Digital Transformation Roadmap, can create robust ecosystems for digital inclusion.


Rahman advocated for structural reforms in three key areas: establishing a permanent, reinforced WSIS and IGF Secretariat with sustainable funding; developing a centralised UN reporting system to address fragmented reporting to UNESCO, WSIS, and ITU; and strengthening links between UN Resident Coordinator Offices and WSIS Action Line issues at the country level.


## Key Areas of Focus


Speakers consistently emphasised several priority areas. All participants identified robust digital infrastructure as the foundational requirement for digital transformation efforts, with specific examples of public-private partnerships, infrastructure sharing, and targeted investment in underserved areas.


Digital literacy and skills development emerged as central to digital transformation, with speakers identifying systematic training programmes targeting diverse populations as critical components.


The need for deliberately targeting marginalised and underserved communities was emphasised throughout, with speakers highlighting focused efforts to include rural populations, women, youth, and persons with disabilities through targeted programmes and community-based approaches.


Comprehensive policy frameworks and governance structures involving multiple stakeholders were identified as necessary for providing clear regulatory guidance for digital transformation efforts.


## Unresolved Challenges and Future Priorities


The discussion highlighted persistent challenges requiring continued attention. The scale of exclusion remains significant, with millions still offline and access continuing to be dominated by those with financial means whilst underserved communities face systemic exclusion.


Rahman noted that funding streams for civil society organisations, especially in the Global South, are shrinking without identified sustainable alternatives, threatening community-based approaches crucial for reaching marginalised populations.


The discussion revealed that structural inequalities in information control and AI development remain largely unaddressed, suggesting that technical solutions alone are insufficient for achieving genuine inclusion.


## Recommendations and Action Items


Several concrete action items emerged from the discussion. Rahman specifically called for establishing permanent, reinforced WSIS and IGF Secretariats with sustainable funding, developing localised action plans that align global WSIS commitments with national priorities, and creating a centralised UN reporting system to streamline country-level reporting.


Practical recommendations included implementing government-wide AI chatbots for comprehensive citizen services access, scaling digital literacy programmes using community-based models, and strengthening coordination between UN Resident Coordinator Offices and WSIS Action Line issues at country level.


## Conclusion


As moderator Cerys Stansfield noted in her closing remarks, despite running over time, the discussion demonstrated the critical importance of multi-stakeholder collaboration in building inclusive digital societies. The panel revealed both significant progress in infrastructure development, digital literacy programmes, and targeted inclusion efforts, alongside substantial challenges around economic inequality, governance structures, and power imbalances.


The discussion demonstrated that building inclusive digital societies requires moving beyond technical solutions to address governance, investment, and human challenges. Success depends on coordinated efforts combining infrastructure development, skills building, inclusive design, and governance frameworks that address both immediate practical needs and underlying structural inequalities. As Stansfield concluded, Dr Cerf’s remote participation served as “the silver lining to running over” time, embodying the collaborative spirit necessary for achieving truly inclusive digital transformation.


Session transcript

Cerys Stansfield: Excellencies, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us and welcome to the first high-level session of this afternoon. My name is Cerys Stansfield and I’m a tech policy analyst at Access Partnership, an international tech public policy consultancy firm, and I have the privilege of leading this next panel discussion. This session will focus on building digital societies that are both inclusive and knowledge-driven in nature, and I’m honoured to be joined by esteemed panellists to explore ongoing strategies and initiatives and future priorities in this aim. Please join me in welcoming Mr. Mustafa Sheikh, the Director-General of the National Communications Authority of Somalia, Mr. George William Nyambitembo, the Executive Director of the Uganda Communications Commission, Dr. Gift Kallisto Machengete, the Director-General of the Postal and Telecommunications Regulatory Authority of Zimbabwe, Mr. Christopher Rekord, the Chairman of the National AI Task Force in Jamaica, Dr. Philip Lee, the General Secretary of the World Association for Christian Communication, Mr. Aam Bazloor Rahman, the Chief Executive Officer of the Bangladesh NGOs Network for Radio and Communication, and Ambassador for the Global Council for Responsible AI, and joining us remotely, Dr. Vint Cerf. We welcome you here not only as one of the inventors of the internet, but also in your capacity as Chairman of the Leadership Panel for the Internet Governance Forum. Thank you to you all for being here today. Thank you. Mr. Mustafa Sheikh, in light of the international and multi-stakeholder heart of the WSIS Forum, allow me to pose the first question related to international cooperation. Could you share your view as to how international cooperation frameworks can better support developing and post-conflict nations to create inclusive digital access ecosystems that are resilient, that are locally driven, and that are future-ready?


Mustafa Sheik: Excellencies, Distinguished Colleges and Partners, thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to address this critical theme, building an inclusive and knowledge-driven digital society for post-conflict and developing nations. Achieving this goal demands that our international cooperation framework address deep-rooted barriers. Challenges in this context highlight a number of issues that we cannot ignore to make sure that we are leaving no one behind. First of all, I would like to demonstrate the Somali context as an experience and showcase for the international arena. Then I will share with you lessons learned from the Somali context. In Somalia, we embraced the promise of ICT as a path to national recovery. For the last two decades, we incentivized public-private partnerships and investments to develop stronger relations and improve infrastructure, leading to a more stable and affordable prices for internet connection, which resulted in increased internet penetration and internet investment in the sector. ICT has brought national financial inclusion, and operators are now rolling out 5G networks. Somalia is not just boosting infrastructure, but developing the ICT ecosystem. The national ICT policy for Somalia laid a roadmap for digital inclusion, fiber-optic expansion, innovation habits, and human capital development as well. To focus on the lessons learned from our experience, which is the main theme of the discussion, first, we need to address the reality of the infrastructure deficit. Many communities lack reliable internet connectivity and stable electricity, which is the foundation element of any developing digital society. There is a need for long-term coordinated investment strategies which incentivize public-private partnerships and innovative financial models to close this critical gap. Second, policy fragmentation and weak governance continue to undermine the digital transformation efforts. Inconsistent regulations, unclear data protection laws, and fragile political institutions limit the trustee and continuity of the projectees. So, strengthening cybersecurity and protecting data privacy are essential to build public confidence and enable cross-border digital trade. Third, building a truly inclusive and knowledge-driven digital society means tackling the digital divide head-on. Marginalized groups, especially the rural population, women, and youth, are too often excluded from e-government and digital services. Local governments need to design and implement context-specific participatory policies that ensure access and usability for all, overcoming social barriers, and ensuring that no one is left behind. Fourth, which is the most important, one, digital literacy and human capital development must be central. Low levels of digital skills among both citizens and civil servants are consistent barriers to the underdeveloped countries, which overcoming them can incentivize and expedite the process of the digitalization of the country. Fifth, well-emerging technologies like AI, blockchain, and cloud computing offer transformative potential. They are not a magical solution, but require successful adoption, require a solid governance framework, ethical safeguards, and investment in local capacity to use and manage these technologies responsibly and sustainably as well. Building an inclusive and knowledge-driven digital society is not only a technical challenge, it is a governance challenge, an investment challenge, and above all, a human challenge. Thank you.


Cerys Stansfield: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sheikh, for sharing the Somali context and, of course, the lessons learned. We’re going to stay on a national focus. Mr. Naomi Tembo, Uganda has made significant progress in expanding digital infrastructure and policy reform. How is the country combining its inclusive policies, community access initiatives, digital skilling, and efforts to improve affordability to ensure that ICTs and media truly expand equitable access to information, and in particular to those who are from unserved and underserved communities?


George William Nyombi Thembo: Thank you, Madam Moderator. Colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, Uganda recognizes the true transformative power of ICT and the media, that that lies in their ability to empower all citizens with equal access to information, especially those left behind. Over the past 20 years, we have steadily advanced this agenda through deliberate policy interventions, through our legal and policy framework, National Development Plan, Access to Information Act, and most recently, the Digital Transformation Roadmap 2023-2028. These have fostered a robust ecosystem that connects over 76% of government offices through the national backbone infrastructure, digitizes public service, and integrates underserved population via community ICT access centers and digital literacy programs. That said, we are not blind that we have challenges. 7.5 million Ugandans are offline and off-air. Only 40% of the population owns smartphones. To bridge this divide, we are focusing on three key strategies. One, equitable infrastructure expansion through the Universal Access Fund. We are targeting the north and northeastern Uganda with new broadband initiatives through solar power digital labs. Satellite Licensing Frameworks to Reach Remote Communities Police and Legal Frameworks Enablement Uganda is actively promoting open and probabilistic media and advancing legislation on access of public data. These efforts complement our push to establish digital libraries and scientific knowledge repositories that are inclusive and accessible to all. And three, inclusive digital literacy and affordability. We are scaling programs that have already trained over 500,000 citizens in the past five, six years, including women, small and medium enterprises, youth, and persons with disabilities. Furthermore, we are working to reduce the cost of devices and expand mobile digital literacy using community-based models. We believe that expanding equitable access to information is not just about connectivity. It’s about dignity, inclusion, and opportunity. That’s why we are also fostering an ecosystem that supports independent media, local content creation, and diverse voices, particularly at the community level. We call upon our global partners to support our efforts through technology transfer, funding for rural infrastructure, and digital scaling collaborations. Uganda is committed to ensuring that no one is left behind as we build an informed, empowered, and digitally inclusive society. Thank you.


Cerys Stansfield: Thank you very much for sharing the comprehensive approach that Uganda is taking to bridge the digital divide. Dr. Mettingete, I now turn to my right. May I invite you to share the perspective from Zimbabwe? What is the role of telecommunications and ICT regulatory authorities in building inclusive and knowledge-driven digital societies?


Gift Kallisto Machengete: Thank you very much, and good afternoon. Your Excellency is present. To answer this question, allow me to zero in on the specific interventions by the regulatory authority in Zimbabwe to promote inclusivity and the transition towards a knowledge-based society. Through a range of strategic initiatives, the regulator is ensuring that all segments of the population, regardless of geography, regardless of ability, regardless of gender, age, or economic status, can participate meaningfully in the digital economy. One of the major barriers to digital inclusion in Zimbabwe is the lack of telecommunications infrastructure in remote and economically disadvantaged areas. To address this, the regulator implemented a tower relocation program, which involves financing the relocation of co-located towers to underserved and unserved areas or regions, including border areas. These towers, once relocated, are shared by multiple network operators, making them viable for service delivery despite low commercial returns. This initiative has brought essential connectivity to marginalized communities, enabling access to digital services, enabling access to education, enabling access to information. Recognizing also the unique challenges faced by persons living with disabilities, the regulator offers basic, intermediate, and advanced ICT training programs tailored to their needs. These programs not only enhance digital literacy, but also empower people living with disabilities to become trainers themselves through the trainer workshops. This inclusive approach fosters self-sufficiency and creates a ripple effect of knowledge transfer within the community of persons with disabilities. To further support them, the regulator has facilitated the distribution of assistive software and gadgets to various centers housing people with disabilities. These technologies are essential in enabling access to computers and the Internet, thus breaking down barriers to education, barriers to communication, and employment opportunities. The regulator has also taken sufficient strides in promoting gender inclusivity in the tech space through initiatives such as the Girls in ICT program. We also have one which is called the She Tech program. These programs aim to inspire and equip girls and young women with the skills and confidence to pursue careers in ICT by challenging stereotypes and offering hands-on learning experiences for them. To ensure economic hardship does not limit access to ICT education, we also offer scholarships to those who are underprivileged, and in this case, both boys and girls. We have also noted that when we leave boys alone, the boys, especially in our areas, they end up doing a lot of drugs, and we need to assist them as well. So both boys and girls, we are assisting them, those who are coming from underprivileged backgrounds, with scholarships so that they can also be assisted. Inclusivity efforts also extend to the elderly. We have set up over 202 community information centers in the rural areas where the elderly are staying, where the rural folk are, where they can go and access ICT services, government services. Recently, we even introduced telemedicine as well in those areas so that they don’t have to be traveling all the way to the towns. Promoting inclusivity and bridging that digital divide. So overall, the regulator’s multifaceted approach to digital inclusion reflects a strong commitment to building a knowledge-based society where no one is left behind. Through infrastructure development, targeted training, technology support, gender empowerment, financial aid, and policy advocates, the authority is laying the foundation for a more equitable and digitally empowered Zimbabwe. I thank you.


Cerys Stansfield: Thank you very much, Dr. Machengete. There is a huge number of things going on from Portres, so thank you for your efforts. I pivot back. Mr. Christopher Reckord, the attendance at the AI for Good Summit next door shows that AI is still a hot topic. It’s not going anywhere. And it’s one of the emerging technologies that cuts across several of the WSIS action lines. My challenge to you, please could you give us one quick, affordable action that a government could take this year to jumpstart the use of AI in public services?


Christopher Reckord: Thank you very much for that question. Wow, a big one. One. I think it’s difficult to choose one right now, but I’ll give you a set of context of it just to say that about a year and a half ago, the then minister with responsibility for digital transformation and innovation created an AI task force, which she invited me to chair. And in doing that, the task force was complemented with folks from the public sector, private sector, and we also had academia on there, about 17 persons. It took a year to go, you know, do some research with other stakeholders and pull together a report. And with that report, we came up with a document that we presented to the prime minister and cabinet. which outlined a number of areas and I’ll just give you a high level as to what some of these areas areas were with respect to with respect to um education they had strong recommendations in education of course we had to have a section on innovation and economic growth and public awareness and sensitization so out of those three one of the things that we will uh see firstly coming out is education because the the then minister uh was then reappointed as the minister of education so I guess she had a she had a a head start in getting the report uh read through it and then she started to do some things in in the ministry so one of the things that she’s actually done is um currently testing a tool with teachers helping them to to mark papers because it’s one of the as a former teacher myself it’s it’s it’s been a struggle you know exam time you have a lot of papers to mark so with the advent of this technology uh you know in my group I jokingly call it augmented intelligence instead of artificial intelligence it’s helping us to do you know do these type of things and so that is one of the tools that’s there another tool again within education has been tested and you know you mentioned cost the minister along with some other dignitaries visited India and saw some interesting experiments happening there and um they were very lucky that an investor made an offer to come and implement some of these technologies in Jamaica for free so one of the things that they’re actually doing they’ve actually signed a contract to build an AI lab and um also a partner with university ministry of education in getting that AI lab off the ground so number one thing for me is education education and of course um you know if we were to make a suggestion for a project uh I think building something like an AI chatbot that answers questions for all government services regardless of what type of service you would like would be a fantastic initiative if I were to just suggest something brand new um you know different but a chatbot that speaks to the entire nation for any questions that they want to do with the government would be very helpful thank you


Cerys Stansfield: thank you very much Mr. Christopher Reckord and thank you for setting the broader context as this task force in Jamaica and focusing a little on the education sector I think it’s important to remember that when we think about our digital societies yes we spend a lot of time on telecoms and ICT sectors specifically but this is transforming all sectors we’ve heard about health we’ve heard about education thank you very much Dr. Philip Lee we’ve heard a range of insights from the government and regulatory perspective when it comes to inclusive digital societies please could I ask you to reflect on the prominence that we should give to communication and information issues in this dialogue and specifically what position does an international NGO such as the World Association for Christian Communication take in this field.


Philip Lee: thank you moderator WACC and its partners around the world work to advance communication rights and media freedoms as fundamental to just democratic inclusive and peaceful societies and looking back on two decades of actions aimed at creating an equitable information society we must confront the reality that millions of people are still excluded not just from digital access but also from meaningful participation in the systems that shape knowledge governance and power it’s a simple truth that without communication justice there can be no equitable sustainable development civil society especially in the global south is being increasingly silenced not only by political repression but by the collapse of international aid and shrinking funding streams digital technologies are dominated by the global north and digital platforms are used to amplify some voices while marginalizing others at this critical juncture WSIS plus 20 is formulating bold proposals to rethink understandings of development to elevate national actors and to increase accessibility affordability and accountability WACC and its partners welcome these calls but none of this transformation is possible without confronting the colonial racist and sexist legacies embedded in the control of information and knowledge and in the development of digital technologies themselves including artificial intelligence we believe that communication must be recognized not merely as a tool for development but as a right central to human dignity agency and justice and with that in mind we’re calling for media regulation that genuinely serves the common good not just market or state interests media ecosystems where community-led voices are not just supported but prioritized democratic data governance that respects people’s sovereignty over their own information new public and non-profit ownership of digital infrastructure that upholds the public good a fair knowledge global a fair global knowledge regime where truth is not dictated by power and finally a realignment of the global digital economy and its financial architecture based on principles of fairness inclusivity and accountability WACC urges WSIS plus 20 UN agencies member states and digital actors to listen to the voices of ordinary people and to respond radically to their concerns if the next 20 years are to deliver on the promise of just and inclusive digital societies then communication rights must no longer be a footnote to governance discussions they must be foundational can we imagine a world in which communication ecosystems serve people not profit or power if we can then we must act decisively to build it.


Cerys Stansfield: thank you dr lee and thank you for the reminder that there are several levels in our digital ecosystem where inclusivity must be accounted for from the users of digital technologies yes but also also the designers the policy makers the regulators thank you very much dr rahman WSIS action line nine focuses on the role of media and in the information society and i would like to ask you what are the key challenges we face in implementing this action line in bangladesh and southeast asia and more more broadly particularly with regard to the role of independent and pluralistic media in fostering informed societies and if i may what are the key trends and opportunities that you see later in 2025 and beyond as we strive to foster inclusive and knowledge-driven societies again with a focus on bangladesh and southeast asia


AHM Bazlur Rahman: yeah madam moderator excellencies distinguished participants WSIS action line implementation fighters all over the world very good afternoon it’s a great privilege to be with all of you this afternoon at the WSIS 20 years event i would like to sincerely thank the WSIS secretariat for the kind invitation which has given me the opportunity to share my thoughts on behalf of the bangladesh and use network for radio and communication and bangladesh internet governance forum first of all i would like to fully endorse my mentor voices a statement dr philip lee from world association of global communication world association of christian communication i would like to fully endorse the statement and use at the outset after two decades of implementation implementing the WSIS action lines we recognize the tremendous opportunity presented by widespread connectivity enhanced mobility user-friendly interface and emerging transaction channels this advancement encourages us to expand of government services beyond traditional online and mobile platform madam moderator it’s concerning to see the emergence of the significant aspect of digital divide which is unfolding alongside our access to Unfortunately, this divide appears to be widening each day rather than improving. It’s essential for us to acknowledge these challenges and collaborate to find solutions that enable everyone to benefit from the digital world. Madam Moderator, the access of the information and knowledge sector is fully commercialized and entirely dominated by the corporate sector. As observed after 20 years, therefore, where are the voices of underserved communities in access to information and knowledge? Those who have money, they have access to knowledge domain, communication domain. Those who have not money, those who are underserved people, they are not part of this. This is a very sad matter. After 20 years, we see this. Madam Moderator, it is essential for us to solve this problem. But voices need to be heard. The situation is regrettable for us, given our two decades of collaboration with the corporate sector. Madam Moderator, the essential objectives of the WSIS mandate have yet to be fully realized, as outlined in the Geneva Plan of Action and the UNICEF Agenda for Action. There is a pressing opportunity to enhance the WSIS forum to better address both long-standing and emerging challenges, such an improvement would facilitate the exploration of potential solutions and support localization efforts, while also fostering active engagement with the UN Resident Coordinator Office at the country level. Madam Moderator, currently a notable gap appears to exist between the UN Resident Coordinator Office and the issues concerning the World Summit on the Information Society Action Line and the IGF at the country level. Strengthening this link could foster greater collaboration and enhance the effectiveness of our initiative. Madam Moderator, in conclusion, what is urgently needed is a permanent, reinforced, and even stronger WSIS and IGF Secretariat, with sustainable funding at both the Secretariat and as well as country level, with three areas. Number one, develop a localized action plan that aligns global WSIS commitment with national priority. We need a central reporting system from the UN side. Currently, we are reporting to UNESCO, we are reporting to the WSIS, we are reporting to the ITU. No, we need a central reporting system from the UN side, so that every country submits their report accordingly. Number two, capacity building and awareness. Promote ICT education and digital skills, encourage the use of ICT for inclusive development, and run awareness campaigns on the benefit of the information and knowledge society, in line with knowledge creation, knowledge preservation, knowledge dissemination, and knowledge utilization of our life and livelihood. Finally, create a multiple stakeholder engagement platform that facilitates regular consultation, share, progress, update, and foster innovation and collaboration. I thank you, Madam.


Cerys Stansfield: Thank you very much, Dr. Rahman, and for reminding us that in our mission to achieve the WSIS vision, we’re on the path, we’re doing well, we are not there just yet. Ladies and gentlemen, I realize we are running a little over time, but I urge you to grant me a few more minutes, as we have one speaker left. Dr. Vint Cerf, thank you very much for joining us. I hope you can hear me well. Throughout our discussion, we’ve extensively discussed the importance of extending digital access to remote communities, and to all individuals, regardless of their gender, or age, or if they have a disability. In the final minutes, I will return the focus to AI, and ask you, how can AI technologies be leveraged to improve access to digital resources for people with disabilities?


Vinton Cerf: Thank you very much, Madam Chairwoman, I guess. I listened to the live stream. I was unable to get connected until literally moments ago, so thank you to the staff for helping me get connected in this fashion. First of all, I want to admire and emphasize everything that’s been said in the beginning of the program. It is vital that we provide access to everyone, to give the world’s knowledge at their fingertips. We have many, many more things to do to achieve that objective, whether it’s affordability or accessibility and the like. But what I would like to do is emphasize some of the things that artificial intelligence holds for us as this amazing new technology unfolds. First of all, the introduction of AI agents may allow voiced, hands-free interaction, so the use of a screen reader to try to understand a two-dimensional web page with a one-dimensional interaction is vastly improved by simply discussing with the agent what it is that you’re trying to accomplish. So I see a tremendous benefit there, especially for people who happen to be blind. Similarly, for people who are deaf, the ability to understand speech and to present speech as text can also be enormously beneficial to enable people to use these online technologies in the ways that the former speakers have outlined. I’d like to also observe that automatic caption has become freely available in many different applications, and that, too, is a consequence of artificial intelligence development. Automatic language translation is also very well along the way. And these are all ways of remedying disabilities. I have a language disability. I don’t speak many of the languages that your former speakers speak, and I would need the assistance for that. Agentic AI will give support to people to accomplish tasks that they might otherwise have great difficulty accomplishing, again, possibly as a consequence of disability, but also simply out of lack of knowledge. And so these kinds of transactions can be tremendously enabled. I noticed, and I want to emphasize the importance of digital literacy. People using these technologies must learn how to use them in a safe way, a safe way that preserves safety and privacy. I also anticipate for the educational side of things that the agents will become tutors. Instead of asking them questions, they’re going to ask us questions to verify that we’ve learned what we should learn. And finally, this kind of online technology allows people to work from home if the physical facilities will accommodate that. And the job, of course, is appropriate. All of these things are benefits that AI will bring to us, but they will not be useful unless you have access to the basic internet technology to begin with, as many of the speakers have emphasized. Thank you very much for allowing me to extend the time beyond our normal termination.


Cerys Stansfield: Thank you, Dr. Cerf, very much for your insights. I think we’d all agree that being able to hear from Dr. Cerf is the silver lining to running over. And thank you again for your patience. Ladies and gentlemen, this brings our session to a close. We have heard today from national regulators, international and national NGOs, and strategic advisory bodies. Building inclusive, knowledge-driven societies is no easy task. Building inclusive, knowledge-driven societies is no easy task. And for as much progress as we have made, and we should rightly celebrate, the global digital divide remains. The WSIS Plus 20 review allows us an opportunity to refocus and redouble our efforts towards building and empowering our digital societies, whether it’s in our infrastructure development, digital skilling and literacy, tech innovation, financial enablement, empowerment, regardless of your age, your gender, or if you have a disability, multi-stakeholder collaboration is key. The public sector, private sector, academia, NGOs, civil society, your families and my family will all co-exist together in the digital societies of the future. It is vital that we build them together. Thank you.


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Mustafa Sheik

Speech speed

135 words per minute

Speech length

502 words

Speech time

222 seconds

Infrastructure deficit requires long-term coordinated investment strategies and public-private partnerships

Explanation

Many communities lack reliable internet connectivity and stable electricity, which are foundational elements for developing digital societies. There is a need for coordinated investment strategies that incentivize public-private partnerships and innovative financial models to close this critical infrastructure gap.


Evidence

Somalia’s experience over two decades of incentivizing public-private partnerships and investments to develop stronger relations and improve infrastructure, leading to more stable and affordable internet prices, increased penetration, and operators now rolling out 5G networks


Major discussion point

Building Digital Infrastructure and Connectivity


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Agreed with

– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– Vinton Cerf

Agreed on

Infrastructure development as foundational requirement for digital inclusion


Disagreed with

– AHM Bazlur Rahman
– George William Nyombi Thembo

Disagreed on

Role of corporate sector vs. public sector in digital access


Marginalized groups including rural populations, women, and youth are often excluded from digital services

Explanation

Building a truly inclusive and knowledge-driven digital society requires tackling the digital divide head-on by addressing the exclusion of marginalized groups from e-government and digital services. Local governments need to design context-specific participatory policies that ensure access and usability for all, overcoming social barriers.


Evidence

Specific mention of rural population, women, and youth as groups too often excluded from e-government and digital services


Major discussion point

Digital Inclusion and Accessibility


Topics

Development | Human rights


Agreed with

– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– Philip Lee

Agreed on

Targeting marginalized and underserved communities for digital inclusion


Low digital skills among citizens and civil servants are consistent barriers requiring central focus

Explanation

Digital literacy and human capital development must be central to digital transformation efforts. Low levels of digital skills among both citizens and civil servants represent consistent barriers in underdeveloped countries, and overcoming them can incentivize and expedite the digitalization process.


Evidence

Identified as one of the most important lessons learned from Somalia’s experience in digital transformation


Major discussion point

Digital Literacy and Human Capital Development


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– Vinton Cerf

Agreed on

Digital literacy and skills development as central to digital transformation


Policy fragmentation and weak governance undermine digital transformation, requiring stronger cybersecurity and data protection

Explanation

Inconsistent regulations, unclear data protection laws, and fragile political institutions limit trust and continuity of digital transformation projects. Strengthening cybersecurity and protecting data privacy are essential to build public confidence and enable cross-border digital trade.


Evidence

Cited as second lesson learned from Somalia’s experience, highlighting how policy fragmentation and weak governance continue to undermine digital transformation efforts


Major discussion point

Policy and Regulatory Frameworks


Topics

Cybersecurity | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– George William Nyombi Thembo
– AHM Bazlur Rahman
– Cerys Stansfield

Agreed on

Need for comprehensive policy frameworks and governance structures


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George William Nyombi Thembo

Speech speed

117 words per minute

Speech length

356 words

Speech time

181 seconds

76% of government offices connected through national backbone infrastructure, targeting northern regions with solar-powered digital labs

Explanation

Uganda has made significant progress in digital infrastructure development through deliberate policy interventions and legal frameworks. The country has connected a majority of government offices through national backbone infrastructure and is specifically targeting underserved northern and northeastern regions with new broadband initiatives powered by solar energy.


Evidence

76% of government offices connected through national backbone infrastructure, digitized public services, integration of underserved populations via community ICT access centers, and specific targeting of north and northeastern Uganda with solar power digital labs through the Universal Access Fund


Major discussion point

Building Digital Infrastructure and Connectivity


Topics

Infrastructure | Development


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– Vinton Cerf

Agreed on

Infrastructure development as foundational requirement for digital inclusion


7.5 million Ugandans remain offline with only 40% owning smartphones, requiring targeted interventions

Explanation

Despite progress, Uganda faces significant challenges with 7.5 million citizens still offline and only 40% of the population owning smartphones. The country is addressing this digital divide through three key strategies focusing on equitable infrastructure expansion, legal framework enablement, and inclusive digital literacy programs.


Evidence

Specific statistics: 7.5 million Ugandans offline, only 40% smartphone ownership; three key strategies including Universal Access Fund targeting specific regions, satellite licensing frameworks, and promotion of open media with digital libraries


Major discussion point

Digital Inclusion and Accessibility


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– Philip Lee

Agreed on

Targeting marginalized and underserved communities for digital inclusion


Over 500,000 citizens trained in digital literacy programs including women, SMEs, youth, and persons with disabilities

Explanation

Uganda has implemented comprehensive digital literacy programs that have successfully trained over half a million citizens in the past five to six years. These programs specifically target marginalized groups and use community-based models to expand mobile digital literacy while working to reduce device costs.


Evidence

Over 500,000 citizens trained in past 5-6 years, including women, small and medium enterprises, youth, and persons with disabilities; community-based models for mobile digital literacy and efforts to reduce device costs


Major discussion point

Digital Literacy and Human Capital Development


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– Vinton Cerf

Agreed on

Digital literacy and skills development as central to digital transformation


Legal frameworks including National Development Plan and Digital Transformation Roadmap create robust ecosystems for digital inclusion

Explanation

Uganda has established comprehensive legal and policy frameworks including the National Development Plan, Access to Information Act, and Digital Transformation Roadmap 2023-2028. These frameworks foster a robust ecosystem that supports digitization of public services and promotes open media with accessible knowledge repositories.


Evidence

Specific mention of National Development Plan, Access to Information Act, and Digital Transformation Roadmap 2023-2028; promotion of open and probabilistic media, legislation on access of public data, digital libraries and scientific knowledge repositories


Major discussion point

Policy and Regulatory Frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– AHM Bazlur Rahman
– Cerys Stansfield

Agreed on

Need for comprehensive policy frameworks and governance structures


Universal Access Fund targeting specific regions with broadband initiatives and satellite licensing for remote communities

Explanation

Uganda is using the Universal Access Fund as a key strategy for equitable infrastructure expansion, specifically targeting northern and northeastern regions with new broadband initiatives. The country is also implementing satellite licensing frameworks to reach remote communities that traditional infrastructure cannot serve effectively.


Evidence

Universal Access Fund targeting north and northeastern Uganda with broadband initiatives through solar power digital labs; satellite licensing frameworks specifically designed to reach remote communities


Major discussion point

Community-Based Digital Services


Topics

Infrastructure | Development


Disagreed with

– AHM Bazlur Rahman
– Mustafa Sheik

Disagreed on

Role of corporate sector vs. public sector in digital access


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Gift Kallisto Machengete

Speech speed

93 words per minute

Speech length

558 words

Speech time

357 seconds

Tower relocation program to underserved areas with shared infrastructure makes connectivity viable despite low commercial returns

Explanation

Zimbabwe’s regulator implemented a tower relocation program that involves financing the relocation of co-located towers to underserved and unserved areas, including border regions. These towers are shared by multiple network operators, making service delivery viable even in areas with low commercial returns, thus bringing essential connectivity to marginalized communities.


Evidence

Tower relocation program financing relocation of co-located towers to underserved, unserved areas, and border areas; towers shared by multiple network operators making them viable despite low commercial returns; enables access to digital services, education, and information


Major discussion point

Building Digital Infrastructure and Connectivity


Topics

Infrastructure | Development


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Vinton Cerf

Agreed on

Infrastructure development as foundational requirement for digital inclusion


Specialized ICT training programs and assistive technologies for persons with disabilities create ripple effects of knowledge transfer

Explanation

Zimbabwe’s regulator offers basic, intermediate, and advanced ICT training programs specifically tailored to persons with disabilities. These programs not only enhance digital literacy but also empower participants to become trainers themselves, creating a ripple effect of knowledge transfer within the disability community while providing assistive software and gadgets.


Evidence

Basic, intermediate, and advanced ICT training programs tailored to persons with disabilities; trainer workshops enabling participants to become trainers; distribution of assistive software and gadgets to centers housing people with disabilities; breaking barriers to education, communication, and employment


Major discussion point

Digital Inclusion and Accessibility


Topics

Human rights | Development


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Vinton Cerf

Agreed on

Digital literacy and skills development as central to digital transformation


Scholarships provided to underprivileged youth of both genders, with recognition that boys also need support to avoid negative outcomes

Explanation

Zimbabwe’s regulator provides scholarships to underprivileged youth regardless of gender, recognizing that both boys and girls need support. The program specifically acknowledges that when boys are left without support, they often turn to drugs, emphasizing the importance of inclusive assistance for all underprivileged youth.


Evidence

Scholarships offered to underprivileged youth, both boys and girls; specific recognition that boys left alone often end up doing drugs and need assistance; targeting those from underprivileged backgrounds


Major discussion point

Digital Literacy and Human Capital Development


Topics

Development | Human rights


202 community information centers established in rural areas providing ICT services, government services, and telemedicine

Explanation

Zimbabwe has established over 202 community information centers in rural areas where elderly and rural populations can access ICT services and government services. These centers have recently introduced telemedicine services, eliminating the need for rural residents to travel to towns for healthcare, thus promoting inclusivity and bridging the digital divide.


Evidence

Over 202 community information centers set up in rural areas; services include ICT access, government services, and recently introduced telemedicine; eliminates need for rural residents to travel to towns for healthcare


Major discussion point

Community-Based Digital Services


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Philip Lee

Agreed on

Targeting marginalized and underserved communities for digital inclusion


C

Christopher Reckord

Speech speed

162 words per minute

Speech length

529 words

Speech time

195 seconds

AI tools being tested to help teachers mark papers and AI labs being established through international partnerships

Explanation

Jamaica’s AI task force led to practical implementations in education, including testing tools that help teachers mark papers during exam periods. The country has also secured international partnerships, including a free offer from an investor to implement AI technologies and build an AI lab in collaboration with universities and the Ministry of Education.


Evidence

AI task force created by minister, 17-person team from public, private, and academic sectors; tool currently being tested to help teachers mark papers; investor offer to implement AI technologies for free; signed contract to build AI lab in partnership with university and Ministry of Education; visit to India to observe AI experiments


Major discussion point

AI Implementation in Public Services


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Government-wide AI chatbot for citizen services would be a valuable initiative for comprehensive public service access

Explanation

As a recommendation for affordable government AI implementation, Jamaica’s AI task force chair suggests building an AI chatbot that can answer questions for all government services regardless of type. This would provide citizens with a single point of access for any government-related inquiries, representing a comprehensive and cost-effective approach to AI in public services.


Evidence

Specific recommendation for a chatbot that speaks to the entire nation for any questions related to government services; described as a ‘fantastic initiative’ for brand new implementation


Major discussion point

AI Implementation in Public Services


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory


P

Philip Lee

Speech speed

117 words per minute

Speech length

408 words

Speech time

208 seconds

Communication rights must be foundational to governance discussions, not footnotes, requiring democratic data governance and public digital infrastructure

Explanation

The World Association for Christian Communication argues that communication rights should be central to human dignity, agency, and justice rather than being treated as secondary concerns. This requires fundamental changes including democratic data governance that respects people’s sovereignty over their information and new public ownership of digital infrastructure that upholds the public good.


Evidence

WACC’s call for media regulation serving common good over market/state interests; democratic data governance respecting people’s sovereignty; new public and non-profit ownership of digital infrastructure; fair global knowledge regime where truth is not dictated by power


Major discussion point

Communication Rights and Media Governance


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Disagreed with

– AHM Bazlur Rahman

Disagreed on

Centralized vs. decentralized governance approaches


Independent and pluralistic media ecosystems need community-led voices to be prioritized over market interests

Explanation

WACC advocates for media ecosystems where community-led voices are not just supported but prioritized, moving away from systems that serve primarily market or state interests. This includes confronting colonial, racist, and sexist legacies embedded in the control of information and knowledge, and realigning the global digital economy based on principles of fairness and inclusivity.


Evidence

Call for media ecosystems prioritizing community-led voices; need to confront colonial, racist, and sexist legacies in information control; realignment of global digital economy based on fairness, inclusivity, and accountability; recognition that civil society in global south is being silenced by political repression and funding cuts


Major discussion point

Communication Rights and Media Governance


Topics

Human rights | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Gift Kallisto Machengete

Agreed on

Targeting marginalized and underserved communities for digital inclusion


A

AHM Bazlur Rahman

Speech speed

114 words per minute

Speech length

622 words

Speech time

327 seconds

Information and knowledge access is dominated by corporate sector, excluding underserved communities without financial means

Explanation

After 20 years of WSIS implementation, the access to information and knowledge sector has become fully commercialized and entirely dominated by the corporate sector. This creates a significant divide where those with financial means have access to knowledge and communication domains, while underserved communities without money are excluded from participation.


Evidence

Observation that after 20 years, information and knowledge access is ‘fully commercialized and entirely dominated by the corporate sector’; specific concern about voices of underserved communities being absent; distinction between those who have money having access versus those without money being excluded


Major discussion point

Communication Rights and Media Governance


Topics

Development | Economic


Disagreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo

Disagreed on

Role of corporate sector vs. public sector in digital access


Permanent, reinforced WSIS and IGF Secretariat needed with sustainable funding and centralized UN reporting system

Explanation

There is an urgent need for a stronger WSIS and IGF Secretariat with sustainable funding at both secretariat and country levels. This should include a centralized UN reporting system to replace the current fragmented approach where countries report separately to UNESCO, WSIS, and ITU, along with localized action plans that align global commitments with national priorities.


Evidence

Current gap between UN Resident Coordinator Office and WSIS Action Line/IGF issues at country level; current fragmented reporting to UNESCO, WSIS, and ITU requiring centralization; need for sustainable funding at both secretariat and country levels; requirement for localized action plans aligning global WSIS commitments with national priorities


Major discussion point

Policy and Regulatory Frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Cerys Stansfield

Agreed on

Need for comprehensive policy frameworks and governance structures


Disagreed with

– Philip Lee

Disagreed on

Centralized vs. decentralized governance approaches


Localized action plans needed that align global WSIS commitments with national priorities and foster multi-stakeholder engagement

Explanation

Bangladesh and Southeast Asia require localized action plans that align global WSIS commitments with national priorities, supported by capacity building and awareness programs. This should include promoting ICT education, encouraging inclusive development, and creating multi-stakeholder engagement platforms that facilitate regular consultation and foster innovation and collaboration.


Evidence

Three key areas identified: localized action plans aligning global WSIS commitments with national priorities; capacity building promoting ICT education and digital skills for inclusive development; multi-stakeholder engagement platform facilitating regular consultation, progress sharing, and fostering innovation and collaboration


Major discussion point

Community-Based Digital Services


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory


V

Vinton Cerf

Speech speed

153 words per minute

Speech length

482 words

Speech time

187 seconds

Basic internet access is fundamental prerequisite for AI and digital technologies to be useful

Explanation

While AI technologies offer tremendous benefits for accessibility and inclusion, they cannot be useful unless people have access to basic internet technology to begin with. This emphasizes that infrastructure development and connectivity remain the foundational requirements for any advanced digital services or AI applications to reach their intended beneficiaries.


Evidence

Explicit statement that AI benefits ‘will not be useful unless you have access to the basic internet technology to begin with, as many of the speakers have emphasized’


Major discussion point

Building Digital Infrastructure and Connectivity


Topics

Infrastructure | Development


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Gift Kallisto Machengete

Agreed on

Infrastructure development as foundational requirement for digital inclusion


AI technologies like voice interaction and automatic translation can significantly improve accessibility for people with disabilities

Explanation

AI agents enable voice, hands-free interaction which vastly improves upon screen readers trying to understand two-dimensional web pages with one-dimensional interaction, particularly benefiting blind users. For deaf individuals, AI’s ability to understand speech and present it as text, along with automatic captioning, provides enormous benefits for accessing online technologies.


Evidence

Voice, hands-free interaction improving upon screen reader limitations for blind users; speech-to-text capabilities and automatic captioning for deaf users; automatic language translation for language disabilities; automatic caption availability in many applications


Major discussion point

Digital Inclusion and Accessibility


Topics

Human rights | Development


Digital literacy education must include safe usage practices to preserve safety and privacy

Explanation

People using AI and digital technologies must learn how to use them safely in ways that preserve both safety and privacy. This represents a critical component of digital literacy that goes beyond basic technical skills to include understanding of security risks and privacy protection measures.


Evidence

Emphasis on importance of digital literacy with specific mention that ‘people using these technologies must learn how to use them in a safe way, a safe way that preserves safety and privacy’


Major discussion point

Digital Literacy and Human Capital Development


Topics

Cybersecurity | Human rights


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Gift Kallisto Machengete

Agreed on

Digital literacy and skills development as central to digital transformation


AI agents will serve as tutors that ask questions to verify learning rather than just answering them

Explanation

In educational applications, AI agents will transform from passive question-answering systems to active tutors that ask students questions to verify that they have learned what they should learn. This represents a more interactive and pedagogically sound approach to AI-assisted education that can better support learning outcomes.


Evidence

Specific prediction that ‘agents will become tutors. Instead of asking them questions, they’re going to ask us questions to verify that we’ve learned what we should learn’


Major discussion point

AI Implementation in Public Services


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


C

Cerys Stansfield

Speech speed

136 words per minute

Speech length

1130 words

Speech time

494 seconds

Multi-stakeholder collaboration is essential for building inclusive digital societies

Explanation

Building inclusive, knowledge-driven societies requires collaboration across all sectors including public sector, private sector, academia, NGOs, civil society, and families. Since all these stakeholders will co-exist in future digital societies, it is vital that they work together to build them.


Evidence

Emphasis that public sector, private sector, academia, NGOs, civil society, families will all co-exist together in digital societies of the future and must build them together


Major discussion point

Policy and Regulatory Frameworks


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– AHM Bazlur Rahman

Agreed on

Need for comprehensive policy frameworks and governance structures


Digital inclusivity must be addressed at multiple levels of the digital ecosystem

Explanation

Inclusivity in digital societies must be considered not only for users of digital technologies but also for the designers, policy makers, and regulators who shape these systems. This multi-level approach ensures that inclusivity is embedded throughout the entire digital ecosystem rather than just at the user level.


Evidence

Reminder that inclusivity must be accounted for from users of digital technologies, but also the designers, policy makers, and regulators


Major discussion point

Digital Inclusion and Accessibility


Topics

Development | Human rights


Digital transformation extends beyond telecoms and ICT to transform all sectors of society

Explanation

While much focus is placed on telecommunications and ICT sectors specifically, digital societies involve transformation across all sectors including health, education, and others. This broader perspective is important when considering the comprehensive impact of digital transformation on society.


Evidence

Acknowledgment that digital transformation affects health and education sectors beyond just telecoms and ICT, with examples heard during the discussion


Major discussion point

Building Digital Infrastructure and Connectivity


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Despite progress made, the global digital divide remains a significant challenge requiring renewed focus

Explanation

While there has been considerable progress in building digital societies that should be celebrated, the global digital divide continues to exist. The WSIS Plus 20 review provides an opportunity to refocus and redouble efforts towards building and empowering digital societies through various means including infrastructure development, digital skilling, and tech innovation.


Evidence

Recognition that despite progress made that should be celebrated, the global digital divide remains, and WSIS Plus 20 review allows opportunity to refocus efforts


Major discussion point

Digital Inclusion and Accessibility


Topics

Development | Human rights


Agreements

Agreement points

Infrastructure development as foundational requirement for digital inclusion

Speakers

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– Vinton Cerf

Arguments

Infrastructure deficit requires long-term coordinated investment strategies and public-private partnerships


76% of government offices connected through national backbone infrastructure, targeting northern regions with solar-powered digital labs


Tower relocation program to underserved areas with shared infrastructure makes connectivity viable despite low commercial returns


Basic internet access is fundamental prerequisite for AI and digital technologies to be useful


Summary

All speakers emphasized that robust digital infrastructure is the foundational requirement for any digital transformation efforts, with specific examples of public-private partnerships, infrastructure sharing, and targeted investment in underserved areas


Topics

Infrastructure | Development


Digital literacy and skills development as central to digital transformation

Speakers

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– Vinton Cerf

Arguments

Low digital skills among citizens and civil servants are consistent barriers requiring central focus


Over 500,000 citizens trained in digital literacy programs including women, SMEs, youth, and persons with disabilities


Specialized ICT training programs and assistive technologies for persons with disabilities create ripple effects of knowledge transfer


Digital literacy education must include safe usage practices to preserve safety and privacy


Summary

Speakers consistently identified digital literacy as a critical component requiring systematic training programs that target diverse populations and include safety considerations


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Targeting marginalized and underserved communities for digital inclusion

Speakers

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– Philip Lee

Arguments

Marginalized groups including rural populations, women, and youth are often excluded from digital services


7.5 million Ugandans remain offline with only 40% owning smartphones, requiring targeted interventions


202 community information centers established in rural areas providing ICT services, government services, and telemedicine


Independent and pluralistic media ecosystems need community-led voices to be prioritized over market interests


Summary

All speakers emphasized the need for deliberate efforts to include marginalized communities, with specific focus on rural populations, women, youth, and persons with disabilities through targeted programs and community-based approaches


Topics

Development | Human rights


Need for comprehensive policy frameworks and governance structures

Speakers

– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo
– AHM Bazlur Rahman
– Cerys Stansfield

Arguments

Policy fragmentation and weak governance undermine digital transformation, requiring stronger cybersecurity and data protection


Legal frameworks including National Development Plan and Digital Transformation Roadmap create robust ecosystems for digital inclusion


Permanent, reinforced WSIS and IGF Secretariat needed with sustainable funding and centralized UN reporting system


Multi-stakeholder collaboration is essential for building inclusive digital societies


Summary

Speakers agreed on the necessity of strong, coordinated policy frameworks and governance structures that involve multiple stakeholders and provide clear regulatory guidance for digital transformation


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Similar viewpoints

Both regulatory authorities from Zimbabwe and Uganda emphasized comprehensive training programs that specifically include persons with disabilities, demonstrating similar approaches to inclusive digital literacy initiatives

Speakers

– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– George William Nyombi Thembo

Arguments

Specialized ICT training programs and assistive technologies for persons with disabilities create ripple effects of knowledge transfer


Over 500,000 citizens trained in digital literacy programs including women, SMEs, youth, and persons with disabilities


Topics

Development | Human rights


Both speakers from international NGOs expressed concern about corporate dominance in information access and the need to prioritize community voices over commercial interests

Speakers

– Philip Lee
– AHM Bazlur Rahman

Arguments

Independent and pluralistic media ecosystems need community-led voices to be prioritized over market interests


Information and knowledge access is dominated by corporate sector, excluding underserved communities without financial means


Topics

Human rights | Economic


Both speakers focused on AI’s transformative potential in education, with practical applications in teaching and learning enhancement

Speakers

– Christopher Reckord
– Vinton Cerf

Arguments

AI tools being tested to help teachers mark papers and AI labs being established through international partnerships


AI agents will serve as tutors that ask questions to verify learning rather than just answering them


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Unexpected consensus

Recognition of boys’ needs alongside girls in digital inclusion programs

Speakers

– Gift Kallisto Machengete

Arguments

Scholarships provided to underprivileged youth of both genders, with recognition that boys also need support to avoid negative outcomes


Explanation

While gender inclusion discussions typically focus on supporting girls and women in ICT, Zimbabwe’s regulator specifically acknowledged that boys also need support to prevent negative outcomes like drug use, showing a more holistic approach to youth inclusion


Topics

Development | Human rights


AI as accessibility enabler rather than barrier

Speakers

– Vinton Cerf

Arguments

AI technologies like voice interaction and automatic translation can significantly improve accessibility for people with disabilities


Explanation

Despite common concerns about AI creating new digital divides, there was consensus that AI technologies can actually serve as powerful tools for improving accessibility and inclusion for people with disabilities


Topics

Human rights | Development


Corporate sector criticism from developing nation perspectives

Speakers

– Philip Lee
– AHM Bazlur Rahman

Arguments

Communication rights must be foundational to governance discussions, not footnotes, requiring democratic data governance and public digital infrastructure


Information and knowledge access is dominated by corporate sector, excluding underserved communities without financial means


Explanation

Both speakers from different organizational backgrounds converged on criticism of corporate dominance in digital access, calling for more public-oriented approaches – unexpected given the usual emphasis on public-private partnerships in development contexts


Topics

Human rights | Economic


Overall assessment

Summary

Strong consensus emerged around four key areas: infrastructure as foundation, digital literacy as essential, targeting marginalized communities, and need for comprehensive governance frameworks. Speakers consistently emphasized practical, inclusive approaches with specific examples from their respective contexts.


Consensus level

High level of consensus with complementary rather than conflicting perspectives. The agreement spans different stakeholder types (government regulators, NGOs, technical experts) and geographic regions, suggesting robust foundation for collaborative action. The consensus implies that despite different national contexts, there are universal principles and approaches that can guide inclusive digital society development globally.


Differences

Different viewpoints

Role of corporate sector vs. public sector in digital access

Speakers

– AHM Bazlur Rahman
– Mustafa Sheik
– George William Nyombi Thembo

Arguments

Information and knowledge access is dominated by corporate sector, excluding underserved communities without financial means


Infrastructure deficit requires long-term coordinated investment strategies and public-private partnerships


Universal Access Fund targeting specific regions with broadband initiatives and satellite licensing for remote communities


Summary

Rahman criticizes the full commercialization and corporate domination of information access, arguing it excludes underserved communities, while Sheikh and Thembo advocate for public-private partnerships as solutions to infrastructure challenges.


Topics

Development | Economic | Legal and regulatory


Centralized vs. decentralized governance approaches

Speakers

– AHM Bazlur Rahman
– Philip Lee

Arguments

Permanent, reinforced WSIS and IGF Secretariat needed with sustainable funding and centralized UN reporting system


Communication rights must be foundational to governance discussions, not footnotes, requiring democratic data governance and public digital infrastructure


Summary

Rahman advocates for stronger centralized UN structures and reporting systems, while Lee emphasizes democratic data governance and community-led approaches that prioritize local voices over centralized control.


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Human rights


Unexpected differences

Gender-inclusive approach to digital literacy

Speakers

– Gift Kallisto Machengete

Arguments

Scholarships provided to underprivileged youth of both genders, with recognition that boys also need support to avoid negative outcomes


Explanation

Machengete’s explicit mention that boys need support to avoid turning to drugs represents an unexpected perspective in discussions typically focused on empowering girls and women in ICT, suggesting a more holistic view of gender inclusion challenges.


Topics

Development | Human rights


Overall assessment

Summary

The discussion showed relatively low levels of direct disagreement, with most conflicts arising around the balance between market-driven versus community-led approaches to digital inclusion, and centralized versus decentralized governance structures.


Disagreement level

Low to moderate disagreement level. The speakers largely shared common goals of digital inclusion and bridging the digital divide, but differed in their preferred mechanisms and approaches. The disagreements were more about methodology and emphasis rather than fundamental opposition to core objectives, suggesting that collaborative solutions incorporating multiple approaches could be feasible.


Partial agreements

Partial agreements

Similar viewpoints

Both regulatory authorities from Zimbabwe and Uganda emphasized comprehensive training programs that specifically include persons with disabilities, demonstrating similar approaches to inclusive digital literacy initiatives

Speakers

– Gift Kallisto Machengete
– George William Nyombi Thembo

Arguments

Specialized ICT training programs and assistive technologies for persons with disabilities create ripple effects of knowledge transfer


Over 500,000 citizens trained in digital literacy programs including women, SMEs, youth, and persons with disabilities


Topics

Development | Human rights


Both speakers from international NGOs expressed concern about corporate dominance in information access and the need to prioritize community voices over commercial interests

Speakers

– Philip Lee
– AHM Bazlur Rahman

Arguments

Independent and pluralistic media ecosystems need community-led voices to be prioritized over market interests


Information and knowledge access is dominated by corporate sector, excluding underserved communities without financial means


Topics

Human rights | Economic


Both speakers focused on AI’s transformative potential in education, with practical applications in teaching and learning enhancement

Speakers

– Christopher Reckord
– Vinton Cerf

Arguments

AI tools being tested to help teachers mark papers and AI labs being established through international partnerships


AI agents will serve as tutors that ask questions to verify learning rather than just answering them


Topics

Sociocultural | Development


Takeaways

Key takeaways

Building inclusive digital societies requires addressing infrastructure deficits through coordinated public-private partnerships and innovative financing models


Digital inclusion must specifically target marginalized groups including rural populations, women, youth, elderly, and persons with disabilities through tailored programs and services


Digital literacy and human capital development are fundamental barriers that require central focus, with successful programs already training hundreds of thousands of citizens


AI technologies offer significant potential for improving accessibility, particularly through voice interaction, automatic translation, and assistive technologies for people with disabilities


Communication rights must be foundational to governance discussions rather than secondary considerations, requiring democratic data governance and public digital infrastructure


Multi-stakeholder collaboration between public sector, private sector, academia, NGOs, and civil society is essential for building effective digital societies


Policy fragmentation and weak governance frameworks continue to undermine digital transformation efforts, requiring stronger cybersecurity and data protection measures


Resolutions and action items

Establish permanent, reinforced WSIS and IGF Secretariat with sustainable funding at both secretariat and country levels


Develop localized action plans that align global WSIS commitments with national priorities


Create centralized UN reporting system to streamline country-level reporting across UNESCO, WSIS, and ITU


Implement government-wide AI chatbot for comprehensive citizen services access


Scale digital literacy programs using community-based models to reach underserved populations


Strengthen links between UN Resident Coordinator Offices and WSIS Action Line issues at country level


Promote capacity building and awareness campaigns on benefits of information and knowledge society


Create multi-stakeholder engagement platforms for regular consultation and progress sharing


Unresolved issues

7.5 million Ugandans remain offline with only 40% smartphone ownership – specific timeline and funding for universal access unclear


Digital divide continues to widen rather than improve, with access dominated by those with financial means while underserved communities remain excluded


Gap exists between UN Resident Coordinator Offices and WSIS/IGF issues at country level without clear resolution mechanism


Funding streams for civil society organizations, especially in Global South, are shrinking without identified sustainable alternatives


Colonial, racist, and sexist legacies embedded in information control and AI development remain unaddressed


Inconsistent regulations and unclear data protection laws continue to limit trust and project continuity


Balance between market interests, state control, and genuine public good in media regulation remains undefined


Suggested compromises

Tower sharing arrangements between multiple network operators to make infrastructure viable in low-return areas


Hybrid public-private partnership models for infrastructure development that balance commercial viability with social objectives


Community-based digital literacy models that leverage local capacity while meeting diverse needs of different demographic groups


Graduated approach to AI implementation starting with education sector before expanding to broader government services


Multi-stakeholder governance frameworks that include voices from public sector, private sector, academia, and civil society rather than single-sector dominance


Thought provoking comments

Building an inclusive and knowledge-driven digital society is not only a technical challenge, it is a governance challenge, an investment challenge, and above all, a human challenge.

Speaker

Mustafa Sheikh


Reason

This comment reframes the entire discussion by moving beyond the typical focus on infrastructure and technology to emphasize the multidimensional nature of digital inclusion. It highlights that human factors are paramount, which is often overlooked in tech-focused discussions.


Impact

This comment set the tone for the entire panel by establishing that subsequent speakers would need to address not just technical solutions but governance, investment, and human-centered approaches. It influenced later speakers to discuss community engagement, training programs, and policy frameworks rather than just connectivity metrics.


The access of the information and knowledge sector is fully commercialized and entirely dominated by the corporate sector… Those who have money, they have access to knowledge domain, communication domain. Those who have not money, those who are underserved people, they are not part of this. This is a very sad matter. After 20 years, we see this.

Speaker

AHM Bazlur Rahman


Reason

This comment provides a stark critique of the WSIS progress after 20 years, challenging the celebratory tone and forcing participants to confront uncomfortable truths about digital inequality. It shifts focus from technical achievements to systemic inequities.


Impact

This comment served as a reality check that countered the more optimistic national progress reports. It introduced a critical perspective that highlighted the gap between WSIS aspirations and ground realities, particularly regarding economic barriers to access.


None of this transformation is possible without confronting the colonial, racist and sexist legacies embedded in the control of information and knowledge and in the development of digital technologies themselves, including artificial intelligence.

Speaker

Philip Lee


Reason

This comment introduces a decolonial perspective that challenges fundamental assumptions about how digital technologies are developed and deployed. It goes beyond surface-level inclusion to address structural power imbalances.


Impact

This comment elevated the discussion from operational challenges to systemic critique, introducing concepts of communication rights and justice that reframed digital inclusion as a matter of human dignity rather than just service delivery.


I have a language disability. I don’t speak many of the languages that your former speakers speak, and I would need the assistance for that.

Speaker

Vinton Cerf


Reason

This personal admission from one of the internet’s inventors humanizes the disability discussion and demonstrates that accessibility challenges affect everyone, regardless of technical expertise. It reframes disability as a universal human condition rather than a niche concern.


Impact

Coming from such a prominent figure, this comment validated the importance of accessibility features and showed how AI can address various forms of barriers, not just traditional disabilities. It provided a powerful conclusion that tied together the themes of inclusion and technology.


We have also noted that when we leave boys alone, the boys, especially in our areas, they end up doing a lot of drugs, and we need to assist them as well. So both boys and girls, we are assisting them.

Speaker

Gift Kallisto Machengete


Reason

This comment reveals the complex social realities behind digital inclusion efforts, showing how ICT programs must address broader social challenges like substance abuse. It demonstrates the interconnected nature of development challenges.


Impact

This comment added depth to the gender inclusion discussion by showing that effective programs must consider local social contexts and avoid creating new forms of exclusion while addressing historical inequities.


Overall assessment

These key comments transformed what could have been a routine progress report session into a nuanced examination of digital inclusion challenges. Sheikh’s opening comment established a holistic framework that influenced subsequent speakers to address governance and human factors. Lee’s decolonial critique and Rahman’s economic inequality concerns introduced critical perspectives that challenged celebratory narratives. Cerf’s personal disability admission provided a humanizing conclusion that validated accessibility concerns. Together, these comments created a discussion that moved beyond technical metrics to examine power structures, economic barriers, and social justice dimensions of digital societies. The flow evolved from national success stories to systemic critiques to personal experiences, creating a comprehensive dialogue about the complexities of building truly inclusive digital societies.


Follow-up questions

How can international cooperation frameworks better address infrastructure deficits in post-conflict nations, particularly regarding reliable internet connectivity and stable electricity?

Speaker

Mustafa Sheikh


Explanation

Sheikh identified infrastructure deficit as a critical barrier, emphasizing the need for long-term coordinated investment strategies and innovative financial models to close this gap in developing digital societies.


What specific mechanisms can strengthen the link between UN Resident Coordinator Offices and WSIS Action Line issues at the country level?

Speaker

AHM Bazlur Rahman


Explanation

Rahman highlighted a notable gap between UN Resident Coordinator Offices and WSIS/IGF issues at country level, suggesting this connection needs strengthening for better collaboration and effectiveness.


How can a centralized UN reporting system be developed to streamline multiple reporting requirements for countries implementing WSIS action lines?

Speaker

AHM Bazlur Rahman


Explanation

Rahman pointed out the current fragmented reporting system where countries report to UNESCO, WSIS, and ITU separately, advocating for a unified central reporting system.


What are the most effective models for ensuring underserved communities have voices in the commercialized information and knowledge sector?

Speaker

AHM Bazlur Rahman


Explanation

Rahman expressed concern that after 20 years, access to information and knowledge is dominated by corporate sectors, leaving underserved communities without representation or access.


How can policy fragmentation and weak governance structures be addressed to support digital transformation in post-conflict nations?

Speaker

Mustafa Sheikh


Explanation

Sheikh identified inconsistent regulations, unclear data protection laws, and fragile political institutions as barriers that undermine digital transformation efforts and limit public trust.


What sustainable funding mechanisms can be established for WSIS and IGF Secretariats at both international and country levels?

Speaker

AHM Bazlur Rahman


Explanation

Rahman called for permanent, reinforced secretariats with sustainable funding, indicating current funding structures may be inadequate for long-term implementation.


How can AI technologies be safely implemented while ensuring digital literacy and privacy protection for users?

Speaker

Vinton Cerf


Explanation

Cerf emphasized the importance of digital literacy for safe AI usage and the need for people to learn how to use these technologies while preserving safety and privacy.


What are the most effective approaches to address the colonial, racist, and sexist legacies embedded in digital technology development and information control?

Speaker

Philip Lee


Explanation

Lee argued that transformation toward inclusive digital societies requires confronting these embedded legacies in information control and digital technology development, including AI.


How can the effectiveness of community-based digital literacy models be measured and scaled across different contexts?

Speaker

George William Nyombi Thembo


Explanation

Thembo mentioned Uganda’s community-based models for mobile digital literacy but the discussion didn’t explore how to measure effectiveness or adapt these models to other contexts.


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Leaders TalkX: When policy meets progress: paving the way for a fit for future digital world

Leaders TalkX: When policy meets progress: paving the way for a fit for future digital world

Session at a glance

Summary

This discussion focused on creating regulatory frameworks for a fit-for-future digital world, examining how policy can balance investment, competition, and innovation while ensuring digital inclusion and trust. The panel featured telecommunications regulators from Greece, Portugal, Nigeria, South Africa, Georgia, Canada, and Costa Rica, each sharing their national perspectives on digital transformation challenges.


Dr. Konstantinos Masselos from Greece emphasized that digital infrastructure deployment requires capital-intensive investments, necessitating regulatory frameworks that incentivize investment while maintaining competition to ensure affordable, accessible services. He stressed the need for simplified, predictable regulatory approaches that accommodate rapid technological advances like network slicing and software-defined networks. Professor Sandra Maximiano from Portugal highlighted the regulator’s evolving role in protecting fundamental rights and consumer welfare, particularly through behavioral economics insights and coordination under the EU Digital Services Act.


Dr. Aminu Maida from Nigeria described their shift from traditional command-and-control regulation to data-driven approaches, leveraging transparency and public information disclosure to empower consumers and enhance market accountability. Mr. Mothibi Ramusi from South Africa emphasized constitutional mandates for digital inclusion, stressing that regulatory frameworks must ensure underserved communities aren’t left behind in digital transformation. Ms. Ekaterine Imedadze from Georgia outlined their evolution from oversight to enablement, focusing on transparency, data analytics, and partnerships to build resilient regulatory frameworks.


Charles Noir from Canada discussed technical operators’ crucial role in maintaining internet security and trust through infrastructure management and multi-stakeholder governance participation. Federico Chacon Loaiza from Costa Rica shared their balanced approach using the National Telecommunications Fund to promote both competition and universal access, successfully reducing digital divides through targeted connectivity programs. The discussion concluded that effective digital regulation requires bold, balanced leadership anchored in trust, inclusion, and long-term resilience.


Keypoints

## Major Discussion Points:


– **Balancing Investment Incentives with Competition**: The need to create regulatory frameworks that encourage capital-intensive digital infrastructure investments while maintaining competitive markets that benefit consumers through better prices, quality, and choices.


– **Data-Driven and Transparent Regulatory Approaches**: Moving from traditional “command and control” regulation toward empowering markets and consumers with transparent data, real-time insights, and public reporting mechanisms to foster accountability and informed decision-making.


– **Digital Inclusion and Universal Access**: Ensuring that digital transformation benefits all citizens, particularly those in underserved and rural areas, through universal service funds, affordable connectivity programs, and targeted initiatives to close the digital divide.


– **Trust, Security, and Consumer Protection in Digital Spaces**: The evolving role of regulators in protecting fundamental rights online, addressing algorithmic discrimination, cybersecurity threats, and ensuring that technical operators maintain secure, resilient digital infrastructure.


– **Multi-stakeholder Collaboration and International Cooperation**: The importance of partnerships between regulators, governments, private sector, civil society, and international organizations to address global digital challenges and maintain open, interoperable internet governance.


## Overall Purpose:


The discussion aimed to explore how policy and regulatory frameworks can evolve to support digital transformation while addressing complex trade-offs between investment, competition, innovation, and inclusion. The panel sought to share best practices from different regions on creating “fit-for-future” digital governance that serves both economic growth and social equity.


## Overall Tone:


The discussion maintained a consistently professional, collaborative, and forward-looking tone throughout. Panelists demonstrated mutual respect and shared commitment to inclusive digital development. The tone was optimistic about technological possibilities while acknowledging serious challenges, and emphasized practical solutions based on real-world regulatory experience. There was no significant shift in tone during the conversation – it remained constructive and solution-oriented from beginning to end.


Speakers

– **Lidia Stepinska Ustasiak** – Co-founder and President of the Foundation Polistratos Institute, Session Facilitator


– **Charles Noir** – Canadian Internet Registration Authority


– **Sandra Maximiano** – President of the Board of Directors, ANACOM (Portugal’s national regulator), Digital Services Coordinator under the EU Digital Services Act


– **Konstantinos Masselos** – President of Hellenic Telecommunication and Post Commission


– **Ekaterine Imedadze** – Commissioner and Outgoing Chairperson, Georgian National Communications Commission and EAPEREC-EU Eastern Partnership


– **Aminu Maida** – Executive Vice Chairman, Nigerian Communications Commission


– **Mothibi Ramusi** – Chairperson, Independent Communications Authority of South Africa


– **Federico Chacon Loaiza** – President, Superintendent of Telecommunications (SUTEL, Costa Rica), participated online


**Additional speakers:**


None identified beyond the provided speakers names list.


Full session report

# Regulatory Frameworks for a Fit-for-Future Digital World: A Comprehensive Discussion Summary


## Introduction and Context


This panel discussion, titled “When policy meets progress, paving the way for a fit-for-future digital world,” was facilitated by Lidia Stepinska-Ustasiak, Co-founder and President of the Foundation Polistratos Institute. The session brought together telecommunications regulators and digital governance experts from across the globe to examine how policy frameworks can evolve to support digital transformation while addressing complex trade-offs between investment, competition, innovation, and inclusion.


The discussion featured representatives from Greece, Portugal, Nigeria, South Africa, Georgia, Canada, and Costa Rica, with Federico Chacon Loaiza from Costa Rica participating online while other panelists were on stage. Each speaker offered unique regional perspectives on creating regulatory frameworks fit for the digital future, maintaining a consistently professional, collaborative, and forward-looking tone throughout.


## Speaker Presentations and Key Perspectives


### Dr. Konstantinos Masselos – Greece’s Hellenic Telecommunication and Post Commission


Dr. Masselos established the foundational challenge of the discussion, emphasizing that digital infrastructure deployment requires capital-intensive investments necessitating regulatory frameworks that incentivize investment while maintaining competition. He stressed the need for simplified, predictable regulatory approaches that accommodate rapid technological advances like network slicing and software-defined networks.


Masselos argued: “we need to have a balance to strike the right balance between pro-investment and pro-competition frameworks… This combination of technology advances and difficult trade-offs, regulatory trade-offs, is a call for re-evaluation of our traditional electronic communications framework.” He emphasized the importance of sustainability across three dimensions: environmental, financial, and socio-economic.


### Dr. Aminu Maida – Nigeria’s Communications Commission


Dr. Maida described Nigeria’s shift from traditional command-and-control regulation to data-driven approaches. He explained: “We’ve had to take a shift in our approach to regulation from prescribing behaviour to empowering the market, consumers, and civil society with transparent data… So we’re now trying to leverage these data to come up with a smarter way to provide oversight and also incentivise responsible competition.”


This paradigm shift was driven by practical considerations of scale – maintaining traditional regulatory approaches would be prohibitively expensive for Nigeria’s large population. Maida’s approach leverages transparency and public information disclosure to empower consumers and enhance market accountability through quality of experience indices, consumer satisfaction metrics, and compliance indices made publicly accessible.


### Ms. Ekaterine Imedadze – Georgian National Communications Commission and EAPEREC-EU Eastern Partnership


Ms. Imedadze, serving as Commissioner and Outgoing Chairperson, described Georgia’s evolution from oversight to enablement. She emphasized: “COMCOM shapes and understands the future readiness. It’s not about predicting big technology but shaping the future and being resilient to the change… we’ve shaped ourselves from being the oversight player to the enabler of the transformation.”


She highlighted Georgia’s approach focusing on transparency, data analytics, and partnerships to build resilient regulatory frameworks. Imedadze mentioned their Innovation Lab working with the startup ecosystem and emphasized how strong partnerships enable smaller nations to participate in larger projects and become anchors in the digital ecosystem.


### Mr. Mothibi Ramusi – South Africa’s Independent Communications Authority


Mr. Ramusi emphasized South Africa’s constitutional mandates for digital inclusion, stressing that regulatory frameworks must ensure underserved communities aren’t left behind in digital transformation. He highlighted the importance of South Africa’s constitutional framework and Bill of Rights in guiding their approach to digital governance.


Ramusi stressed the need for robust, protected infrastructure with universal coverage and affordable access to enable rural communities to access world-class services like e-learning. He emphasized multi-stakeholder collaboration frameworks extending beyond local actors to include global partners committed to development, openness, and transparency.


### Professor Sandra Maximiano – Portugal’s ANACOM


Professor Maximiano, serving as Digital Services Coordinator under the EU Digital Services Act, added the dimension of consumer protection, emphasizing that regulators must address behavioral biases exploited online and use behavioral economics tools to protect consumers while ensuring competition and inclusion.


She argued: “regulators must ensure that digital inclusion is a strategic priority… We must require that platforms, operators, and service providers be accountable, not just for the infrastructure they provide, but for the online environment they help shape.” Maximiano mentioned ANACOM’s collaboration with the Lusophone community to advance the behavioral economics agenda in digital policy.


### Charles Noir – Canadian Internet Registration Authority


Charles Noir provided the technical infrastructure perspective, discussing how technical operators play a crucial role in maintaining internet security and trust through infrastructure management and multi-stakeholder governance participation. He emphasized that technical operators are responsible for technologies like DNSSEC, DDoS mitigation, and national DNS firewalls that block malicious traffic.


Noir stressed the responsibility of technical operators to participate in governance spaces, ensuring internet security decisions are grounded in operational realities and technical expertise through multi-stakeholder bottom-up governance models.


### Federico Chacon Loaiza – Costa Rica’s SUTEL (participating online)


Federico Chacon Loaiza described Costa Rica’s balanced approach using the National Telecommunications Fund (FONATEL) to promote both competition and universal access. He stated: “For us digital inclusion is not an afterthought but a central objective. We are convinced that digital public policy should serve as a tool for equity, social cohesion and sustainable development.”


Costa Rica’s model demonstrates practical implementation of investment-competition balance through targeted connectivity programs, showing how regulation with a long-term perspective can use digital public policy as a tool for equity and sustainable development.


## Key Themes and Areas of Consensus


### Balancing Investment and Competition


Multiple speakers agreed on the fundamental challenge of creating regulatory frameworks that simultaneously encourage investment in digital infrastructure while maintaining competitive markets. This consensus emerged from speakers representing different regions and regulatory contexts, suggesting universal recognition of this core tension in digital governance.


### Transparency and Data-Driven Approaches


Several speakers, particularly Maida and Imedadze, advocated for moving away from traditional regulatory approaches toward more transparent, data-driven methods that empower stakeholders and enable innovation. This transformation involves shifting from traditional oversight to enabling innovation through transparency, data analytics, and public accessibility of regulatory information.


### Digital Inclusion as Central Priority


Speakers consistently emphasized that digital inclusion must be a fundamental goal of regulatory frameworks, not an afterthought. This consensus spanned different continents and regulatory contexts, with speakers like Ramusi, Chacon Loaiza, and Maximiano all highlighting the importance of proactive measures to ensure equitable access.


### Multi-stakeholder Collaboration


All speakers demonstrated agreement on the necessity of multi-stakeholder collaboration and partnerships. This consensus extended across different types of organizations, from national regulators to technical operators, emphasizing collaborative approaches involving various stakeholders at local, national, and international levels.


## Concrete Initiatives and Actions


Several speakers outlined specific actions their organizations are undertaking:


– Nigeria’s Communications Commission has implemented data-driven regulatory approaches with public accessibility of quality metrics


– Georgia’s COMCOM established an Innovation Lab working with the startup ecosystem on telecommunications and cybersecurity


– South Africa has developed constitutional framework-based approaches to digital inclusion


– Costa Rica’s SUTEL continues administering the FONATEL fund with connectivity programs


– Portugal’s ANACOM is working on behavioral economics approaches and collaborating with the Lusophone community


– Technical operators are implementing security technologies and participating in multi-stakeholder governance


## Future Challenges and Considerations


The discussion identified several ongoing challenges requiring continued attention:


– Scaling regulatory approaches effectively in large, diverse markets


– Balancing regulatory simplification with comprehensive consumer protection in rapidly evolving digital environments


– Ensuring smaller nations can meaningfully participate in global digital governance


– Managing the relationship between national sovereignty and international cooperation


– Addressing compliance and enforcement costs while maintaining effective oversight


– Adapting to emerging technologies and their regulatory implications


## Key Takeaways


The discussion revealed several critical insights for future digital governance:


1. **Regulatory Evolution**: Digital transformation requires adaptive regulatory frameworks that can balance multiple objectives while remaining responsive to technological change.


2. **Transparency and Empowerment**: Moving toward data-driven, transparent governance approaches that empower consumers and markets through information disclosure.


3. **Inclusion as Foundation**: Digital inclusion must be embedded as a central objective in regulatory policy, supported by appropriate mechanisms and funding.


4. **Collaborative Governance**: Multi-stakeholder collaboration is essential for effective digital governance, requiring participation from various actors at multiple levels.


5. **Technical-Regulatory Integration**: Technical operators play a crucial role in building digital trust and must be integrated into governance frameworks.


6. **Sustainability Focus**: Regulatory approaches must consider environmental, financial, and socio-economic sustainability in their design and implementation.


## Conclusion


The discussion demonstrated significant consensus among global digital governance leaders on fundamental principles while acknowledging the diverse approaches needed for different national contexts. The convergence around transparency, inclusion, collaboration, and adaptive governance suggests a maturing field where best practices are emerging across diverse contexts.


The conversation reinforced that effective digital regulation requires balanced leadership anchored in trust, inclusion, and long-term resilience, with regulators evolving to become enablers of digital transformation that serves both economic growth and social equity. The session concluded with an invitation for a group photo, symbolizing the collaborative spirit that characterized the entire discussion.


Session transcript

Lidia Stepinska Ustasiak: Excellencies, distinguished delegates, ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. My name is Lidia Stepinska-Ustasiak, I am co-founder and president of the Foundation Polistratos Institute and I will have the pleasure and honor to facilitate the discussion when policy meets progress, paving the way for a fit-for-future digital world. Now, I would like to invite to the stage our panelists, Dr. Konstantinos Masselos, President of Hellenic Telecommunication and Post Commission. Welcome to the stage. Professor Sandra Massimiano, President of the Board of Directors, ANACOM. Dr. Aminu Maida, Executive Vice Chairman, Nigerian Communications Commission. Welcome to the stage. Mr. Mokibi Ramozi, Chairperson, Independent Communications Authority of South Africa. Ms. Ekaterina Gnadadze, Commissioner and Outgoing Chairperson, Georgian National Communications Commission and EAPEREC-EU Eastern Partnership. And Mr. Charles Noir, Canadian Internet Registration Authority. And we will also have one participant online, Mr. Federico Jaconte Loiza, President, Superintendent of Telecommunications. He will join us online. Let me start with the first question of our today’s session. I would like to direct this question to Dr. Masselos. The deployment of digital and connectivity infrastructure is essential for the digital transformation and the progress in digital space. However, complex trade-offs among investments, competition and innovation do exist in this context. What kind of policy and regulatory frameworks we need to address these challenges?


Konstantinos Masselos: Thank you. Great to be in WSIS 2025. And I would like to thank ITU for having me here. Digital infrastructure is a key driver for economic growth and competitiveness. And digital infrastructure, including connectivity infrastructure, cloud infrastructure, computing, storage, software as a service, is the platform for digital transformation, increases productivity, fosters innovation. So very important. Technology advances very fast. And considering connectivity as an example, we see that in the future, we will see networks shifting from having focus speed to having focus on the services they will offer. Complex, socio-economically transformative services that will require different qualities of service. They will require software-defined type of networks, network slicing, implementation, and qualities of service like reliability, resilience, predictability, continuity, low latency, etc. So we see technology running very fast. On the other hand, the deployment of digital infrastructure and connectivity infrastructure requires investments, is capital intensive. So we need regulatory and policy frameworks to incentivize investments, but at the same time address the demand side so that this infrastructure, the networks are accessible by end users and this means competitively priced. So we need to have a balance to strike the right balance between pro-investment and pro-competition frameworks. Competition still needs to be there to achieve better prices, better quality of service, more choices for the end users. So this combination of technology advances and difficult trade-offs, regulatory trade-offs, is a call for re-evaluation of our traditional electronic communications framework. We need to look more to prioritizing simplification of regulatory frameworks to unnecessary burdens. We need to increase predictability for investments. We need to prioritize deployment-friendly measures, creating level playing field for all the different stakeholders in the ecosystem, harmonization to address economies of scale, and also update our frameworks to reflect to technology advances. And sustainability should be there, not only in the form of environmental sustainability, but also from a financial point of view to make the digital infrastructure sustainable in the long run and also socio-economically sustainable to the benefit of the economy and the society. Thank you.


Lidia Stepinska Ustasiak: Thank you very much, Dr. Marcelos. You clearly articulated how policy frameworks will have to evolve to support innovation on the one hand and to keep investments at the relevant level. Now, I’d like to turn to Professor Massimiano and I’d like to ask, as a chairwoman of ANACOM and also a national regulator of Portugal and also a coordinator of digital services in the scope of the EU Digital Services Act, what would you tell us about the role of regulation in these fields and what is your experience here?


Sandra Maximiano: Thanks a lot for the invitation. I think in this actual context of this digital transformation, regulation plays a very central role and we need to keep ensuring competition, inclusion, resilience and, crucially, the protection of fundamental rights. Competition has been advanced through supply-side measures, such as regulatory obligations to address specific market failures, but as well as through effective management of essential resources like spectrum and numbering. However, we also need to tackle and focus on the demand side, which are equally important for us, especially to empower and protect the consumers. This digital context is essential for regulators on a digital space to understand and respond to how behavioral biases are exploited online. Also, regulators need to use tools from behavioral economics and put them to work for the good. For instance, applying match techniques to protect users. ANACOM has been actively promoting these behavioral insights in international discussions, aiming to integrate these tools into global digital policy. For instance, currently we are working with CEPT. to contribute to European Common Proposal for the upcoming World Telecommunication Development Conference in Baku. And these proposals seek to strengthen the ITU’s mandate on consumer protection grounded in these behavioral economics and behavioral insights. We are also collaborating with the Lusophone community to move forward this agenda. But of course, the rapid development of emerging technology, such as artificial intelligence, quantum computing, presents undeniable benefits, and some of them we can experience in this meeting, but also complex challenges. And regulators must ensure that digital inclusion is a strategic priority. The goal is to prevent technological advancements from deepening the country’s digital divide. Also, we need a forward-looking regulatory approach that embeds ethical principles into the design of technology ensuring that serves human well-being. Regulators, and in this case, we are also very much embracing this cause, we should act as guardians of digital space and digital safety and dignity. The rise in online violence, surveillance threats, and algorithmic discrimination demands firm and coordinated action. We must require that platforms, operators, and service providers be accountable, not just for the infrastructure they provide, but for the online environment they help shape. And I come as digital service coordinator as a key mission under the European Digital Service Act, so to protect consumers online and safeguards their fundamental rights. This role involves not just for enforcing the rules at the national level and an effective approach, but also working closely with all relevant national authorities to ensure a coordinated approach. Just as important is the cooperation with other coordinators across the EU, with the European Commission, and looking ahead with the new players like trusted flaggers, vetted researchers, and dispute resolution bodies. This networked approach is essential. It allows the regulation to be applied consistently across the union, creating a safer, more predictable, and trustworthy online environment. And I think it also teaches a great lesson, which is basically cooperation and collaboration is the key in this context that a large number of entities should work together to build a stronger regulation.


Lidia Stepinska Ustasiak: Thank you very much for highlighting the role of regulators in creating regulatory landscape, particularly in the context of new roles connected with digital services coordinator role. And it was European Perspective presented by Group Portugal. And now I would like to move to Nigeria and turn to Dr. Edoardo. I mean, Maida, Executive Chairman of Nigerian Communication Commission, and ask how can governments leverage digital transformation to adopt data-driven regulatory approach that fosters market competition among operators and enhances consumer protection to close the digital divide?


Aminu Maida: Thank you very much. I think at the NCC, we’ve understood that connectivity is not just a service, it’s the backbone of progress. Digital services now underpin virtually everything, businesses, healthcare, education, and even governance. But we need to not just focus, when we speak about connectivity, we need to not just focus on the infrastructure, but we also need to focus on building trust and strengthening it, of course. Now, over the years, we’ve come to realize, like I’m sure the regulators around the world from my interaction with them, that the traditional approach of command and control has its place, but it also has its limitations, especially when you consider the kind of dynamic digital world we live in, which is innovation-driven and fast-paced. It can stifle innovation, of course. Flexibility is questionable. There’s typically a high cost of compliance and enforcement. And quite often, we’re seeing increasing these generating resistance from the entities we regulate. Now, if you take a moment and just look at the scale of the problem, Nigeria, most populous black nation in the world, 220 million people. It’s over 20 times the size of Switzerland. To maintain that approach effectively will cost a lot of money. And so far, if I could find some of the best examples, the crystal ball, I can find the answer of how to maintain that approach at scale. But I think, I assume you’re a very rich man. So considering the scale of this problem, we’ve had to take a shift in our approach to regulation from prescribing behavior to empowering the market, consumers, and civil society with transparent data. And if you think about it, like most of the markets, the regulator collects a lot of data. So already we’re collecting data on whether it’s on quality of service, pricing structures, consumer complaints trend, and a whole load of other data points. So we’re now trying to leverage these data to come up with a smarter way to provide oversight and also incentivize responsible competition. And enhance accountability without too much overreach. But crucially to do this digital transformation, this is the enabler, we must adopt digital tools and platform. So very quickly, let’s see, I’m running out of time. The question is, how are we going about this in the NCC? So at the heart of our regulatory transformation, we’re embedding information disclosure, leveraging digital tools. So for example, we recently launched a major incident reporting portal for the public. And we saw a shift in the discourse from people questioning the operators, why are you not offering the right level of service to or why are these construction companies damaging telecommunications infrastructure? So it started a process whereby the media and citizens through a discourse were engaged in questioning and effectively protecting the infrastructure. We’ve also moved away from quality of service, more to quality of experience. We’re leveraging crowdsourced data from real user, from real usage. And this real time data is providing us actual insight into people’s experience. But we’re also making this information publicly accessible so that people can make the decisions of what’s the best network, where I need to use it and when I need to use it. And this actually is going to, we believe is going to elevate competition by putting power in the hands of the users. And lastly, we’re also developing a number of indices which we hope to make, which we intend to make public. So there’s an index on quality of experience, an index on consumer satisfaction and a compliance index. Now, by digitizing our oversight and mandating this transparent reporting, we’re fostering a competitive. and Mr. Aminu Maida, Dr. Konstantinos Masselos, Prof. Sandra Maximiano, Dr. Aminu Maida, Ms. Ekaterine Imedadze, Mr. Federico Chacon Loaiza, Dr. Charles Noir


Lidia Stepinska Ustasiak: Thank you very much. And because time of our session is running very quickly, I will also quickly move to our next panelist, who is Mr. Mothibi Ramusi. And I would like to ask the question, how do we ensure that a future digital world is not just defined by technology, but also its ability to transform the daily lives of ordinary citizens, and especially those in underserved areas?


Mothibi Ramusi: Thank you very much. Good afternoon. I think from our side, I’m just going to use the South African context here. You know, living in a democratic country, we have a constitution, which has got Bill of Rights, which serves as a cornerstone of democracy in South Africa. And what it calls for, it calls that everyone is equal before the law and has the right to equal protection and the benefit of the law. Now, within the context of WSIS, I think the question that we then need to ask is, from a regulatory point of view, how best are we then supposed to make sure that everyone that is going to be consuming services is included in the agenda? So, I think from my analysis is then, in terms of policy, if it defines the main problem within your environment, then from a regulatory point of view, our job then is to make sure that we come up with a regulatory program that is going to be inclusive, and most importantly, taking into consideration citizens’ requirements. Now, as South Africa, we have shown its commitment for the future world. Recently, we’ve just launched a digital transformation roadmap in 2025. This is amongst others, just to show the commitment that we have actually listened to a citizen, and with the intention that that citizen, we should not leave everyone behind. Now, in the main, we know that when we talk about inclusivity, the issue of universal access, literacy for all, accessible technology, and ensuring that you close the digital divide, it’s how you can bring a child from an underserved community into the mainstream of the future. Because from a policy, even if you’re talking about advancing your political agenda, as a regulator, then it will be to make sure that, how do we then support those that are building infrastructure? We need robust infrastructure that are protected, issues of cybersecurity to be taken care of. Then, in practice, a child in a rural village should be able to access world-class education through e-learning, because it’s all about visibility and knowledge. And that to happen, we need universal coverage, affordable access to services that are provided by those that are building networks. So, in my conclusion, we must be mindful of emerging trends and technologies, such as the intelligence and adaptive services. The working model of the future requires enhanced performance, prediction, and offered by services. Notably, it is going to be important to implement automated systems that are geared to detect and respond to unscheduled events, because issues of emergency and disaster, we need to be mindful of those. These interventions are meant to drive and promote citizen-centric and user-friendly environment. And in South Africa context, linking all these futuristic initiatives to our constitutional mandate, it’s how we have learned. Finally, the journey cannot be undertaken in isolation. It requires a well-developed multi-stakeholder collaboration framework, one that extends beyond local actors and includes global partners, particularly those committed to development, openness, transparency, shared vision, and progress. Thank you.


Lidia Stepinska Ustasiak: Thank you very much. Thank you very much particularly for highlighting the importance of inclusion and affordability. And now, reflecting on the challenges in the creation of regulatory frameworks, we will leave Africa. I would like to turn to Georgia and ask the next question to Mr. Ekaterin Madadze. Based on the Georgia example, how can national regulators champion future regulatory frameworks that successfully balance the drive for investment and competitive digital growth with the imperative to place people’s trust and resilience at the heart of digital progress?


Ekaterine Imedadze: Thank you very much for the question. Good afternoon. It’s an honor to be part of the leaders’ talk and speak about the Georgian experience particularly. If we speak, Georgian regulatory authority COMCOM shapes and understands the future readiness. It’s not about predicting big technology but shaping the future and being resilient to the change. So, what is our identity being resilient to changes? It’s first our mindset. It’s about people and culture. So, it’s about organizational pillar. Another pillar is the mechanisms. This is the data analytics and knowledge. And third, very important for us is partnership, collaborative partnerships with different sectors and different geographies. So, COMCOM is 25 years young and we’ve shaped ourselves from being the oversight player to the enabler of the transformation. And this is our major role now to enable innovation and embed inclusivity and trust in our decisions. So, if we speak about how operationally we come to those targets, there are three also directions. This is first, when we make any decision, we try to be exceptionally transparent and inclusive. So, opening our doors to any stakeholders. This is our mandate to be public but also providing facility place where we can really debate in person on the changes and debates we have. Also, if we speak about equipping ourselves with proper mechanisms, we know that we live in the era of data. So, having strong analytical portal where we put all the sector-related data is very important. So, this also brings trust and transparency for our citizens and for market and for peers. And third and very important is our partnerships. And through our strong partnerships with different regulatory authorities also present here, different donor organizations, it is possible for the smaller nations, smaller countries to really become part of larger projects. This is, for example, in case of Georgia Rural Development Project, which has the pillar of bringing digital literacy in the rural areas of Georgia. And this is also extending the mandate of the COMCOM. So, this is why we’re trying to be quite adaptive to challenges. We also have Made in a Lab at COMCOM. It means that we are working with startup ecosystem and trying, but in specific pillar of that. Digital and we are trying to build the ecosystem of startupers who understand what is telecom, how important is resilient and trustworthy telecom and cyber security. So those are the main areas where we work and we really believe that with strong partnerships and collaboration even small nations can become the changing anchors in the digital ecosystem. Thank you.


Lidia Stepinska Ustasiak: Thank you very much and because our session is approaching its end very quickly I would like to move to Dr. Charles Noir and ask in your view what is the role of technical operators in supporting the broader goal in cultivating trust and security in the digital environment?


Charles Noir: Thank you very much for the question. It’s a pleasure to be with you and with these panelists today. So technical operators and when I’m talking about that I’m thinking about domain registrars, domain name registrars, registries for internet numbers. These are the folks that play a critical if not often taken for granted role in cultivating trust and security in the digital environment. The integrity and the resilience of the global internet depends on the infrastructures that they manage, the standards they uphold and the values they embed in their day-to-day operations. At CIRA we see this as a responsibility which is core to who we are and our mandate. Of course we operate the .ca domain space but we see our broader role for ourselves in stewarding Canada’s digital infrastructure particularly internet infrastructure. We invest in a number of tools some of them you may know you may not know DNSSEC also known as domain name system security extensions. I won’t get into it. DDoS mitigation and we also provision a national DNS firewall. These are technologies that block malicious traffic before it reaches users and they’re not just technical functions they’re trust building. The role of technical operators doesn’t just stop at the technical layer. We also have a responsibility to show up in governance spaces to ensure decisions about internet security and trust are grounded in operational realities and that they’re informed by technical expertise and that’s a key message of a technical community coalition for multi stakeholderism or TCCM if you have not heard of them which is a global coalition of technical operators including CIRA that works to uphold the multi-stakeholder bottom-up internet governance model. We’re focused on ensuring processes shaping the internet’s future remain open, accessible and rooted in a shared responsibility. Critically CIRA believes that technical operators should lead by example through transparent security practices respect for open standards and a demonstrated commitment to privacy and accountability. These principles are essential not only for maintaining user trust but also for reinforcing the legitimacy of the multi-stakeholder model in a moment where digital trust is under strain from state-led internet fragmentation to rising cybersecurity threats. We as technical operators have both the tools and the credibility to help safeguard the open and resilient internet we all depend on and that requires stepping up not just technically but meaningfully in key conversations about the future of internet governance like the one we’re having here at the WSIS. It’s great to be part of it. Thank you.


Lidia Stepinska Ustasiak: Thank you very much and last but not least I would like to ask the question to our panelist who is with us online, Mr. Mr. Federico Chacon Loaiza. Based on your experience promoting access and universal service through the National Telecommunication Fund which plays a key role in reducing Costa Rica’s digital divide, how do you manage the balance between a regulatory framework that fosters competition and the need to ensure connectivity in rural areas


Federico Chacon Loaiza: and vulnerable populations? Thank you for your question. Good afternoon and best regards to all from Costa Rica. First I would like to thank the International Telecommunications Union for giving us the opportunity to share our experience in this important forum. For us effective regulation should promote competition, protect user rights and guarantee service quality. However it should also align with a more equitable and inclusive national vision. At SUTEL we seek this balance through a comprehensive approach. On one hand we promote competition through clear rules, transparent public vendors and efficient spectrum management. On the other hand we administer the National Telecommunications Fund, FONATEL, to expand connectivity to areas the market doesn’t reach on its own, including rural areas, indigenous territories and vulnerable communities. Thanks to technical and transparent management FONATEL has financed key projects to close the digital divide. The Connect Community Program, for instance, has deployed more than 700 connectivity sites in rural districts, benefiting over 1 million people. Through the Connected Homes Program more than 287,000 subsidies have been guaranteed to low-income families, reducing the digital divide by 22 percentage points with a total investment of 220 million U.S. dollars. Additionally over 123,000 devices have been delivered to schools, health centers and daycare facilities. These projects are executed through public tenders involving national and regional operators, which also foster competition in the use of funds resources. However, our goal is not only to connect but to connect with purpose. This is why we collaborate with institutions such as the Ministry of Education, the Costa Rican Social Security Administration and the Ministry of Science, Innovation and Technology and Telecommunications to ensure that this connectivity supports the development of distance learning, telemedicine, financial inclusion and digital government. A recent example of this approach is the public tender for 5G networks, which aim not a revenue collection but a widened frequency to providers, offering the broadest network deployment and committing to cover all districts with low connectivity. In this way we ensure that fifth generation telecommunications also reach the areas of greatest need. In summary at SUTEL we regulate with a long-term perspective. For us digital inclusion is not an afterthought but a central objective. We are convinced that digital public policy should serve as a tool for equity, social cohesion and sustainable development. Thank you very much for your


Lidia Stepinska Ustasiak: attention. Thank you very much. Thank you very much to all panelists and as today’s discussion to the sequence of interventions clearly shown, shaping fit for future digital world required bold but also balanced regulatory leadership. The leadership which should be anchored in trust, inclusion and long-term resilience. Thank you very much. Now I would like to invite all of you to the group photo. Recording


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Konstantinos Masselos

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Need for regulatory frameworks that balance pro-investment incentives with pro-competition measures to ensure accessible, competitively priced networks while encouraging capital-intensive infrastructure deployment

Explanation

Masselos argues that digital infrastructure deployment requires significant capital investment, but regulatory frameworks must strike a balance between incentivizing these investments and maintaining competition to ensure networks are accessible and competitively priced for end users. He emphasizes that competition is still necessary to achieve better prices, quality of service, and more choices for consumers.


Evidence

Examples include network slicing implementation, software-defined networks, and qualities of service like reliability, resilience, predictability, continuity, and low latency. He mentions the shift from speed-focused networks to service-focused networks offering complex, socio-economically transformative services.


Major discussion point

Digital Infrastructure Development and Investment Frameworks


Topics

Infrastructure | Legal and regulatory | Economic


Agreed with

– Federico Chacon Loaiza

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Need for balanced regulatory frameworks that promote both investment and competition


Disagreed with

– Aminu Maida

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Regulatory approach: Traditional oversight vs. data-driven empowerment


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Aminu Maida

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289 seconds

Shift from traditional command-and-control regulation to data-driven approaches that empower markets and consumers through transparent information disclosure and digital oversight tools

Explanation

Maida argues that traditional command-and-control regulation has limitations in the dynamic digital world, including stifling innovation, questionable flexibility, high compliance costs, and generating resistance from regulated entities. He advocates for leveraging data that regulators already collect to provide smarter oversight and incentivize responsible competition.


Evidence

Nigeria’s scale (220 million people, 20 times the size of Switzerland) demonstrates the cost challenges of traditional approaches. Examples include launching a major incident reporting portal, shifting from quality of service to quality of experience using crowdsourced data, and developing public indices for quality of experience, consumer satisfaction, and compliance.


Major discussion point

Digital Infrastructure Development and Investment Frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development | Economic


Agreed with

– Ekaterine Imedadze

Agreed on

Importance of transparency and data-driven approaches in regulation


Disagreed with

– Konstantinos Masselos

Disagreed on

Regulatory approach: Traditional oversight vs. data-driven empowerment


Development of quality of experience indices, consumer satisfaction metrics, and compliance indices made publicly accessible to elevate competition

Explanation

Maida describes the development of various public indices that provide transparency and empower consumers to make informed decisions about network services. This approach puts power in the hands of users and is expected to elevate competition by enabling consumers to choose the best network based on actual performance data.


Evidence

Specific examples include an index on quality of experience, an index on consumer satisfaction, and a compliance index. The shift to crowdsourced data from real user usage provides actual insights into people’s experience with telecommunications services.


Major discussion point

Regulatory Innovation and Adaptive Governance


Topics

Economic | Legal and regulatory | Development


M

Mothibi Ramusi

Speech speed

136 words per minute

Speech length

510 words

Speech time

224 seconds

Importance of robust, protected infrastructure with universal coverage and affordable access to enable rural communities to access world-class services like e-learning

Explanation

Ramusi emphasizes that robust infrastructure must be protected and include cybersecurity measures to enable universal coverage and affordable access. He argues that a child in a rural village should be able to access world-class education through e-learning, which requires comprehensive infrastructure development.


Evidence

South Africa’s recent launch of a digital transformation roadmap in 2025 demonstrates commitment to not leaving anyone behind. The constitutional mandate and Bill of Rights serve as the foundation for ensuring equal protection and benefit of the law for all citizens.


Major discussion point

Digital Infrastructure Development and Investment Frameworks


Topics

Infrastructure | Development | Sociocultural


Constitutional mandate requires equal protection and benefit of law for all citizens, necessitating inclusive regulatory programs that consider citizens’ requirements

Explanation

Ramusi argues that South Africa’s constitution and Bill of Rights, which call for equality before the law and equal protection, must guide regulatory approaches in the digital space. Regulators must ensure that everyone consuming services is included in the agenda through inclusive regulatory programs that prioritize citizens’ requirements.


Evidence

South Africa’s constitution with its Bill of Rights serves as the cornerstone of democracy. The recent launch of a digital transformation roadmap in 2025 shows commitment to inclusive development and not leaving citizens behind.


Major discussion point

Consumer Protection and Digital Rights in the Digital Age


Topics

Human rights | Legal and regulatory | Development


Agreed with

– Federico Chacon Loaiza
– Sandra Maximiano

Agreed on

Digital inclusion as a central regulatory objective


Implementation of automated systems for detecting and responding to emergencies and disasters while promoting citizen-centric, user-friendly environments

Explanation

Ramusi advocates for implementing automated systems that can detect and respond to unscheduled events, particularly emergencies and disasters. These interventions are designed to drive and promote citizen-centric and user-friendly environments as part of future-oriented regulatory approaches.


Evidence

He mentions the need to be mindful of emerging trends and technologies such as artificial intelligence and adaptive services, and the requirement for enhanced performance and prediction offered by services.


Major discussion point

Regulatory Innovation and Adaptive Governance


Topics

Cybersecurity | Legal and regulatory | Infrastructure


Multi-stakeholder collaboration framework extending beyond local actors to include global partners committed to development, openness, and transparency

Explanation

Ramusi emphasizes that the journey toward digital transformation cannot be undertaken in isolation and requires a well-developed multi-stakeholder collaboration framework. This framework must extend beyond local actors to include global partners who are committed to development, openness, transparency, shared vision, and progress.


Major discussion point

Digital Inclusion and Universal Access


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory | Infrastructure


Agreed with

– Ekaterine Imedadze
– Sandra Maximiano
– Charles Noir

Agreed on

Necessity of multi-stakeholder collaboration and partnerships


S

Sandra Maximiano

Speech speed

124 words per minute

Speech length

510 words

Speech time

246 seconds

Regulators must address behavioral biases exploited online and use behavioral economics tools to protect consumers while ensuring competition and inclusion

Explanation

Maximiano argues that in the digital transformation context, regulators need to understand and respond to how behavioral biases are exploited online. She advocates for regulators to use tools from behavioral economics and apply techniques like nudging to protect users while maintaining competition and inclusion.


Evidence

ANACOM has been actively promoting behavioral insights in international discussions, working with CEPT to contribute to European Common Proposals for the World Telecommunication Development Conference in Baku. They are also collaborating with the Lusophone community to advance this agenda.


Major discussion point

Consumer Protection and Digital Rights in the Digital Age


Topics

Economic | Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Mothibi Ramusi
– Federico Chacon Loaiza

Agreed on

Digital inclusion as a central regulatory objective


Disagreed with

– Charles Noir

Disagreed on

Focus on technical infrastructure vs. behavioral protection


Need for regulators to act as guardians of digital safety and dignity, requiring platforms and service providers to be accountable for the online environments they help shape

Explanation

Maximiano emphasizes that regulators should act as guardians of digital space, safety, and dignity in response to rising online violence, surveillance threats, and algorithmic discrimination. She argues that platforms, operators, and service providers must be held accountable not just for their infrastructure but for the online environments they help create.


Evidence

Her role as digital service coordinator under the European Digital Service Act involves protecting consumers online and safeguarding fundamental rights through enforcement at the national level and coordination with relevant national authorities, other EU coordinators, the European Commission, and new players like trusted flaggers and vetted researchers.


Major discussion point

Consumer Protection and Digital Rights in the Digital Age


Topics

Human rights | Cybersecurity | Legal and regulatory


Networked approach with cooperation between national coordinators, European Commission, and new players like trusted flaggers creates safer, more predictable online environment

Explanation

Maximiano describes a networked approach that involves cooperation between digital service coordinators across the EU, the European Commission, and new entities such as trusted flaggers, vetted researchers, and dispute resolution bodies. This collaborative framework ensures consistent application of regulation across the union, creating a safer and more trustworthy online environment.


Evidence

The European Digital Service Act framework includes coordination between national authorities, other coordinators across the EU, the European Commission, and new players like trusted flaggers, vetted researchers, and dispute resolution bodies.


Major discussion point

Regulatory Coordination and International Cooperation


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Human rights | Cybersecurity


Agreed with

– Mothibi Ramusi
– Ekaterine Imedadze
– Charles Noir

Agreed on

Necessity of multi-stakeholder collaboration and partnerships


E

Ekaterine Imedadze

Speech speed

116 words per minute

Speech length

433 words

Speech time

222 seconds

Transformation from oversight player to enabler of innovation, embedding inclusivity and trust through exceptional transparency, strong analytical capabilities, and collaborative partnerships

Explanation

Imedadze describes how Georgia’s COMCOM has evolved from being an oversight regulator to an enabler of transformation over its 25-year history. The approach focuses on three pillars: organizational mindset and culture, data analytics and knowledge mechanisms, and collaborative partnerships across different sectors and geographies.


Evidence

COMCOM operates with exceptional transparency by opening doors to all stakeholders and providing facilities for in-person debates. They maintain a strong analytical portal with all sector-related data and have established partnerships with regulatory authorities and donor organizations, enabling participation in projects like the Rural Development Project for digital literacy in rural Georgia.


Major discussion point

Regulatory Innovation and Adaptive Governance


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development | Infrastructure


Agreed with

– Aminu Maida

Agreed on

Importance of transparency and data-driven approaches in regulation


Strong partnerships with regulatory authorities and donor organizations enable smaller nations to participate in larger projects and become changing anchors in digital ecosystem

Explanation

Imedadze argues that through strong partnerships with different regulatory authorities and donor organizations, smaller countries like Georgia can become part of larger projects and serve as changing anchors in the digital ecosystem. This approach allows smaller nations to have significant impact despite their size.


Evidence

Examples include the Rural Development Project which focuses on bringing digital literacy to rural areas of Georgia, and the Made in Lab at COMCOM that works with the startup ecosystem to build understanding of telecommunications, resilience, and cybersecurity among entrepreneurs.


Major discussion point

Regulatory Coordination and International Cooperation


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory | Infrastructure


Agreed with

– Mothibi Ramusi
– Sandra Maximiano
– Charles Noir

Agreed on

Necessity of multi-stakeholder collaboration and partnerships


C

Charles Noir

Speech speed

142 words per minute

Speech length

422 words

Speech time

178 seconds

Technical operators play critical role in cultivating trust through technologies like DNSSEC, DDoS mitigation, and national DNS firewalls that block malicious traffic before reaching users

Explanation

Noir argues that technical operators such as domain registrars and registries play a critical but often taken-for-granted role in cultivating trust and security in the digital environment. The integrity and resilience of the global internet depends on the infrastructure they manage, the standards they uphold, and the values they embed in daily operations.


Evidence

CIRA operates the .ca domain space and invests in technologies including DNSSEC (domain name system security extensions), DDoS mitigation, and provisions a national DNS firewall. These technologies block malicious traffic before it reaches users and serve as trust-building functions.


Major discussion point

Technical Infrastructure Security and Internet Governance


Topics

Cybersecurity | Infrastructure | Legal and regulatory


Disagreed with

– Sandra Maximiano

Disagreed on

Focus on technical infrastructure vs. behavioral protection


Responsibility to participate in governance spaces ensuring internet security decisions are grounded in operational realities and technical expertise through multi-stakeholder bottom-up governance model

Explanation

Noir emphasizes that technical operators have a responsibility to participate in governance spaces to ensure that decisions about internet security and trust are grounded in operational realities and informed by technical expertise. This participation supports the multi-stakeholder, bottom-up internet governance model.


Evidence

The Technical Community Coalition for Multi-stakeholderism (TCCM) is a global coalition of technical operators including CIRA that works to uphold the multi-stakeholder bottom-up internet governance model, ensuring processes shaping the internet’s future remain open, accessible, and rooted in shared responsibility.


Major discussion point

Technical Infrastructure Security and Internet Governance


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Infrastructure | Cybersecurity


Agreed with

– Mothibi Ramusi
– Ekaterine Imedadze
– Sandra Maximiano

Agreed on

Necessity of multi-stakeholder collaboration and partnerships


Need for transparent security practices, respect for open standards, and demonstrated commitment to privacy and accountability to maintain user trust

Explanation

Noir argues that technical operators should lead by example through transparent security practices, respect for open standards, and demonstrated commitment to privacy and accountability. These principles are essential for maintaining user trust and reinforcing the legitimacy of the multi-stakeholder model amid challenges like state-led internet fragmentation and rising cybersecurity threats.


Major discussion point

Technical Infrastructure Security and Internet Governance


Topics

Cybersecurity | Human rights | Legal and regulatory


F

Federico Chacon Loaiza

Speech speed

114 words per minute

Speech length

391 words

Speech time

205 seconds

Administration of National Telecommunications Fund to expand connectivity to underserved areas through programs like Connect Community and Connected Homes, reducing digital divide by 22 percentage points

Explanation

Chacon Loaiza describes how SUTEL administers the National Telecommunications Fund (FONATEL) to expand connectivity to areas the market doesn’t reach independently, including rural areas, indigenous territories, and vulnerable communities. The fund has achieved significant measurable impact in reducing Costa Rica’s digital divide.


Evidence

The Connect Community Program deployed over 700 connectivity sites in rural districts benefiting over 1 million people. The Connected Homes Program provided more than 287,000 subsidies to low-income families, reducing the digital divide by 22 percentage points with a total investment of $220 million USD. Additionally, over 123,000 devices were delivered to schools, health centers, and daycare facilities.


Major discussion point

Digital Inclusion and Universal Access


Topics

Development | Infrastructure | Economic


Agreed with

– Konstantinos Masselos

Agreed on

Need for balanced regulatory frameworks that promote both investment and competition


Regulation with long-term perspective where digital inclusion is central objective, using digital public policy as tool for equity, social cohesion, and sustainable development

Explanation

Chacon Loaiza argues that effective regulation should align with a more equitable and inclusive national vision, where digital inclusion is not an afterthought but a central objective. He emphasizes that digital public policy should serve as a tool for equity, social cohesion, and sustainable development with a long-term perspective.


Evidence

The recent 5G network public tender focused not on revenue collection but on offering broadest network deployment with commitments to cover all districts with low connectivity, ensuring fifth-generation telecommunications reach areas of greatest need.


Major discussion point

Digital Inclusion and Universal Access


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory | Economic


Agreed with

– Mothibi Ramusi
– Sandra Maximiano

Agreed on

Digital inclusion as a central regulatory objective


Collaboration with institutions across education, health, and government sectors to ensure connectivity supports distance learning, telemedicine, and digital government services

Explanation

Chacon Loaiza emphasizes that the goal is not only to connect but to connect with purpose, requiring collaboration with various institutions to ensure connectivity supports meaningful applications. This cross-sector collaboration ensures that digital infrastructure enables practical services that improve citizens’ lives.


Evidence

SUTEL collaborates with the Ministry of Education, Costa Rican Social Security Administration, and Ministry of Science, Innovation and Technology and Telecommunications to ensure connectivity supports distance learning, telemedicine, financial inclusion, and digital government services.


Major discussion point

Regulatory Coordination and International Cooperation


Topics

Sociocultural | Development | Infrastructure


L

Lidia Stepinska Ustasiak

Speech speed

103 words per minute

Speech length

741 words

Speech time

429 seconds

Shaping fit-for-future digital world requires bold but balanced regulatory leadership anchored in trust, inclusion and long-term resilience

Explanation

Ustasiak concludes that creating a digital world prepared for the future demands regulatory leadership that is both bold and balanced. This leadership must be fundamentally grounded in trust, inclusion, and long-term resilience as core principles.


Evidence

The conclusion is drawn from the sequence of interventions and discussions during the panel session with multiple regulatory experts from different regions.


Major discussion point

Regulatory Innovation and Adaptive Governance


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development | Human rights


Complex trade-offs exist among investments, competition and innovation in digital infrastructure deployment that require appropriate policy and regulatory frameworks

Explanation

Ustasiak identifies that there are inherent tensions and difficult balancing acts required between encouraging investment in digital infrastructure, maintaining competitive markets, and fostering innovation. These competing demands necessitate carefully designed policy and regulatory approaches.


Evidence

This argument is presented as the foundational challenge for the panel discussion on digital transformation and connectivity infrastructure.


Major discussion point

Digital Infrastructure Development and Investment Frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Economic | Infrastructure


Future digital world should be defined not just by technology but by its ability to transform daily lives of ordinary citizens, especially those in underserved areas

Explanation

Ustasiak emphasizes that the measure of success for digital transformation should not be technological advancement alone, but rather the tangible impact on improving the daily lives of regular people. Special attention must be paid to ensuring that underserved communities benefit from digital progress.


Evidence

This argument is posed as a question to panelists about ensuring inclusive digital transformation that reaches all segments of society.


Major discussion point

Digital Inclusion and Universal Access


Topics

Development | Sociocultural | Human rights


Agreements

Agreement points

Need for balanced regulatory frameworks that promote both investment and competition

Speakers

– Konstantinos Masselos
– Federico Chacon Loaiza

Arguments

Need for regulatory frameworks that balance pro-investment incentives with pro-competition measures to ensure accessible, competitively priced networks while encouraging capital-intensive infrastructure deployment


Administration of National Telecommunications Fund to expand connectivity to underserved areas through programs like Connect Community and Connected Homes, reducing digital divide by 22 percentage points


Summary

Both speakers emphasize the need for regulatory approaches that simultaneously encourage investment in digital infrastructure while maintaining competitive markets to ensure affordable access for consumers


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Economic | Infrastructure


Importance of transparency and data-driven approaches in regulation

Speakers

– Aminu Maida
– Ekaterine Imedadze

Arguments

Shift from traditional command-and-control regulation to data-driven approaches that empower markets and consumers through transparent information disclosure and digital oversight tools


Transformation from oversight player to enabler of innovation, embedding inclusivity and trust through exceptional transparency, strong analytical capabilities, and collaborative partnerships


Summary

Both speakers advocate for moving away from traditional regulatory approaches toward more transparent, data-driven methods that empower stakeholders and enable innovation


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development | Infrastructure


Digital inclusion as a central regulatory objective

Speakers

– Mothibi Ramusi
– Federico Chacon Loaiza
– Sandra Maximiano

Arguments

Constitutional mandate requires equal protection and benefit of law for all citizens, necessitating inclusive regulatory programs that consider citizens’ requirements


Regulation with long-term perspective where digital inclusion is central objective, using digital public policy as tool for equity, social cohesion, and sustainable development


Regulators must address behavioral biases exploited online and use behavioral economics tools to protect consumers while ensuring competition and inclusion


Summary

All three speakers emphasize that digital inclusion must be a fundamental goal of regulatory frameworks, not an afterthought, requiring proactive measures to ensure equitable access


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory | Human rights


Necessity of multi-stakeholder collaboration and partnerships

Speakers

– Mothibi Ramusi
– Ekaterine Imedadze
– Sandra Maximiano
– Charles Noir

Arguments

Multi-stakeholder collaboration framework extending beyond local actors to include global partners committed to development, openness, and transparency


Strong partnerships with regulatory authorities and donor organizations enable smaller nations to participate in larger projects and become changing anchors in digital ecosystem


Networked approach with cooperation between national coordinators, European Commission, and new players like trusted flaggers creates safer, more predictable online environment


Responsibility to participate in governance spaces ensuring internet security decisions are grounded in operational realities and technical expertise through multi-stakeholder bottom-up governance model


Summary

Multiple speakers agree that effective digital governance requires collaborative approaches involving various stakeholders at local, national, and international levels


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development | Infrastructure


Similar viewpoints

Both speakers emphasize the critical importance of accountability, transparency, and trust-building in digital environments, with regulators and technical operators having responsibility for maintaining safe and secure online spaces

Speakers

– Sandra Maximiano
– Charles Noir

Arguments

Need for regulators to act as guardians of digital safety and dignity, requiring platforms and service providers to be accountable for the online environments they help shape


Need for transparent security practices, respect for open standards, and demonstrated commitment to privacy and accountability to maintain user trust


Topics

Cybersecurity | Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Both speakers advocate for regulatory transformation that moves from traditional oversight to enabling innovation through transparency, data analytics, and public accessibility of regulatory information

Speakers

– Aminu Maida
– Ekaterine Imedadze

Arguments

Development of quality of experience indices, consumer satisfaction metrics, and compliance indices made publicly accessible to elevate competition


Transformation from oversight player to enabler of innovation, embedding inclusivity and trust through exceptional transparency, strong analytical capabilities, and collaborative partnerships


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development | Economic


Both speakers emphasize that digital infrastructure must serve practical purposes in improving citizens’ lives, particularly in education and essential services, with special focus on reaching underserved communities

Speakers

– Mothibi Ramusi
– Federico Chacon Loaiza

Arguments

Importance of robust, protected infrastructure with universal coverage and affordable access to enable rural communities to access world-class services like e-learning


Collaboration with institutions across education, health, and government sectors to ensure connectivity supports distance learning, telemedicine, and digital government services


Topics

Infrastructure | Development | Sociocultural


Unexpected consensus

Shift away from traditional command-and-control regulation

Speakers

– Aminu Maida
– Ekaterine Imedadze
– Sandra Maximiano

Arguments

Shift from traditional command-and-control regulation to data-driven approaches that empower markets and consumers through transparent information disclosure and digital oversight tools


Transformation from oversight player to enabler of innovation, embedding inclusivity and trust through exceptional transparency, strong analytical capabilities, and collaborative partnerships


Regulators must address behavioral biases exploited online and use behavioral economics tools to protect consumers while ensuring competition and inclusion


Explanation

It’s unexpected to see such strong consensus among regulators from different continents (Africa, Europe, and Asia) about moving away from traditional regulatory approaches. This suggests a global shift in regulatory thinking toward more adaptive, innovation-enabling frameworks


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development | Economic


Technical operators’ role in governance and policy-making

Speakers

– Charles Noir
– Sandra Maximiano

Arguments

Responsibility to participate in governance spaces ensuring internet security decisions are grounded in operational realities and technical expertise through multi-stakeholder bottom-up governance model


Networked approach with cooperation between national coordinators, European Commission, and new players like trusted flaggers creates safer, more predictable online environment


Explanation

The consensus between a technical operator and a regulatory authority about the importance of technical expertise in governance spaces represents an unexpected alignment between traditionally separate domains, suggesting growing recognition of the need for technical-regulatory integration


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Infrastructure | Cybersecurity


Overall assessment

Summary

The speakers demonstrated remarkable consensus on key principles including the need for balanced investment-competition frameworks, transparency and data-driven regulation, digital inclusion as a central objective, and multi-stakeholder collaboration. There was also unexpected agreement on moving away from traditional command-and-control regulation toward more adaptive approaches.


Consensus level

High level of consensus with significant implications for global digital governance. The agreement across diverse geographical regions (Europe, Africa, North America, Latin America, and Asia) and different types of organizations (national regulators, technical operators, international bodies) suggests emerging global standards for digital regulation. This consensus indicates a maturing field where best practices are converging around principles of transparency, inclusion, collaboration, and adaptive governance. The implications are positive for international cooperation and harmonization of digital policies, potentially leading to more effective and coordinated global digital governance frameworks.


Differences

Different viewpoints

Regulatory approach: Traditional oversight vs. data-driven empowerment

Speakers

– Konstantinos Masselos
– Aminu Maida

Arguments

Need for regulatory frameworks that balance pro-investment incentives with pro-competition measures to ensure accessible, competitively priced networks while encouraging capital-intensive infrastructure deployment


Shift from traditional command-and-control regulation to data-driven approaches that empower markets and consumers through transparent information disclosure and digital oversight tools


Summary

Masselos advocates for traditional regulatory frameworks that balance investment incentives with competition measures, while Maida argues for moving away from command-and-control regulation toward data-driven approaches that empower markets and consumers.


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Economic | Development


Focus on technical infrastructure vs. behavioral protection

Speakers

– Charles Noir
– Sandra Maximiano

Arguments

Technical operators play critical role in cultivating trust through technologies like DNSSEC, DDoS mitigation, and national DNS firewalls that block malicious traffic before reaching users


Regulators must address behavioral biases exploited online and use behavioral economics tools to protect consumers while ensuring competition and inclusion


Summary

Noir emphasizes the technical infrastructure layer and security technologies as the foundation for trust, while Maximiano focuses on addressing behavioral biases and using behavioral economics to protect consumers.


Topics

Cybersecurity | Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Unexpected differences

Scale and approach to regulatory transformation

Speakers

– Aminu Maida
– Konstantinos Masselos

Arguments

Shift from traditional command-and-control regulation to data-driven approaches that empower markets and consumers through transparent information disclosure and digital oversight tools


Need for regulatory frameworks that balance pro-investment incentives with pro-competition measures to ensure accessible, competitively priced networks while encouraging capital-intensive infrastructure deployment


Explanation

Unexpected because both are telecommunications regulators from developing regions, yet they propose fundamentally different approaches – Maida advocates for abandoning traditional regulation due to scale challenges, while Masselos supports evolving traditional frameworks.


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Economic | Development


Overall assessment

Summary

The main areas of disagreement center on regulatory philosophy (traditional vs. data-driven approaches), the primary focus for building digital trust (technical infrastructure vs. behavioral protection), and the role of partnerships in achieving digital inclusion goals.


Disagreement level

Moderate disagreement level with significant implications – while speakers share common goals of digital inclusion, trust, and infrastructure development, their different approaches could lead to divergent regulatory policies and outcomes. The disagreements reflect different national contexts, regulatory maturity levels, and philosophical approaches to governance, suggesting that one-size-fits-all solutions may not be appropriate for global digital governance.


Partial agreements

Partial agreements

Similar viewpoints

Both speakers emphasize the critical importance of accountability, transparency, and trust-building in digital environments, with regulators and technical operators having responsibility for maintaining safe and secure online spaces

Speakers

– Sandra Maximiano
– Charles Noir

Arguments

Need for regulators to act as guardians of digital safety and dignity, requiring platforms and service providers to be accountable for the online environments they help shape


Need for transparent security practices, respect for open standards, and demonstrated commitment to privacy and accountability to maintain user trust


Topics

Cybersecurity | Human rights | Legal and regulatory


Both speakers advocate for regulatory transformation that moves from traditional oversight to enabling innovation through transparency, data analytics, and public accessibility of regulatory information

Speakers

– Aminu Maida
– Ekaterine Imedadze

Arguments

Development of quality of experience indices, consumer satisfaction metrics, and compliance indices made publicly accessible to elevate competition


Transformation from oversight player to enabler of innovation, embedding inclusivity and trust through exceptional transparency, strong analytical capabilities, and collaborative partnerships


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development | Economic


Both speakers emphasize that digital infrastructure must serve practical purposes in improving citizens’ lives, particularly in education and essential services, with special focus on reaching underserved communities

Speakers

– Mothibi Ramusi
– Federico Chacon Loaiza

Arguments

Importance of robust, protected infrastructure with universal coverage and affordable access to enable rural communities to access world-class services like e-learning


Collaboration with institutions across education, health, and government sectors to ensure connectivity supports distance learning, telemedicine, and digital government services


Topics

Infrastructure | Development | Sociocultural


Takeaways

Key takeaways

Digital transformation requires regulatory frameworks that balance pro-investment incentives with pro-competition measures to ensure accessible, affordable connectivity while encouraging infrastructure development


Regulators must evolve from traditional command-and-control approaches to data-driven, transparent governance that empowers consumers and markets through information disclosure


Consumer protection in the digital age requires addressing behavioral biases exploited online and holding platforms accountable for the online environments they create


Digital inclusion and universal access must be central objectives of regulatory policy, not afterthoughts, with dedicated funding mechanisms like national telecommunications funds


Technical operators play a critical role in building digital trust through security technologies and participation in multi-stakeholder internet governance


Regulatory innovation requires transparency, strong analytical capabilities, collaborative partnerships, and adaptive governance structures that can respond to rapid technological change


Multi-stakeholder collaboration frameworks extending beyond national borders are essential for effective digital governance and closing the digital divide


Future regulatory approaches must embed ethical principles, sustainability considerations, and citizen-centric design into technology deployment


Resolutions and action items

ANACOM working with CEPT to contribute to European Common Proposal for upcoming World Telecommunication Development Conference in Baku


ANACOM collaborating with Lusophone community to advance behavioral economics agenda in digital policy


Nigerian Communications Commission launched major incident reporting portal for public engagement


South Africa launched digital transformation roadmap in 2025 showing commitment to inclusive digital future


Georgia’s COMCOM established Innovation Lab working with startup ecosystem on telecom and cybersecurity


Costa Rica’s SUTEL continuing administration of FONATEL fund with specific programs like Connect Community and Connected Homes


Technical Community Coalition for Multi-stakeholderism (TCCM) working to uphold multi-stakeholder internet governance model


Unresolved issues

How to effectively scale traditional regulatory approaches in large, diverse markets like Nigeria’s 220 million population


Balancing the need for regulatory simplification with comprehensive consumer protection in rapidly evolving digital environments


Ensuring smaller nations can meaningfully participate in global digital governance and infrastructure development


Managing the tension between national sovereignty and international cooperation in internet governance


Addressing the high costs of compliance and enforcement while maintaining effective regulatory oversight


Determining optimal regulatory responses to emerging technologies like AI and quantum computing


Establishing consistent application of digital rights and protections across different jurisdictions and regulatory frameworks


Suggested compromises

Striking balance between pro-investment and pro-competition frameworks through regulatory predictability and deployment-friendly measures


Combining supply-side regulatory obligations with demand-side consumer empowerment through behavioral economics tools


Using transparent data disclosure and public indices to foster competition while reducing direct regulatory intervention


Implementing networked regulatory approaches that coordinate between national authorities and international bodies


Leveraging public-private partnerships and multi-stakeholder frameworks to share responsibility for digital infrastructure development


Adopting adaptive governance models that can evolve with technology while maintaining core principles of inclusion and trust


Balancing market-driven connectivity expansion with targeted public funding for underserved areas through national telecommunications funds


Thought provoking comments

We need to have a balance to strike the right balance between pro-investment and pro-competition frameworks… This combination of technology advances and difficult trade-offs, regulatory trade-offs, is a call for re-evaluation of our traditional electronic communications framework.

Speaker

Dr. Konstantinos Masselos


Reason

This comment is insightful because it identifies the fundamental tension at the heart of digital regulation – the need to simultaneously encourage investment while maintaining competition. It goes beyond surface-level solutions to call for a complete re-evaluation of traditional frameworks, recognizing that technological advances have fundamentally changed the regulatory landscape.


Impact

This comment established the central theme for the entire discussion. It framed the conversation around the core challenge of balancing competing interests and set the stage for other panelists to explore different aspects of this balance from their regional perspectives.


We’ve had to take a shift in our approach to regulation from prescribing behavior to empowering the market, consumers, and civil society with transparent data… So we’re now trying to leverage these data to come up with a smarter way to provide oversight and also incentivize responsible competition.

Speaker

Dr. Aminu Maida


Reason

This comment is particularly thought-provoking because it presents a paradigm shift from traditional command-and-control regulation to data-driven, transparency-based governance. It acknowledges the limitations of traditional approaches at scale and proposes a more collaborative model that empowers stakeholders rather than merely controlling them.


Impact

This comment introduced a concrete alternative regulatory model that moved the discussion from theoretical frameworks to practical implementation. It demonstrated how regulators can adapt to digital transformation challenges and influenced subsequent speakers to discuss their own innovative approaches to regulation.


Regulators need to use tools from behavioral economics and put them to work for the good. For instance, applying match techniques to protect users… regulators must ensure that digital inclusion is a strategic priority… We must require that platforms, operators, and service providers be accountable, not just for the infrastructure they provide, but for the online environment they help shape.

Speaker

Professor Sandra Massimiano


Reason

This comment is insightful because it expands the regulatory scope beyond traditional telecommunications to include behavioral economics and platform accountability. It recognizes that digital regulation must address how human psychology is exploited online and calls for a more holistic approach to digital governance that includes ethical considerations.


Impact

This comment broadened the discussion from infrastructure and competition to include consumer protection, behavioral insights, and platform responsibility. It introduced the concept of regulators as ‘guardians of digital space’ and shifted the conversation toward more comprehensive digital governance approaches.


COMCOM shapes and understands the future readiness. It’s not about predicting big technology but shaping the future and being resilient to the change… we’ve shaped ourselves from being the oversight player to the enabler of the transformation.

Speaker

Ms. Ekaterine Imedadze


Reason

This comment is thought-provoking because it redefines the role of regulators from reactive overseers to proactive enablers of transformation. The distinction between ‘predicting’ and ‘shaping’ technology represents a fundamental shift in regulatory philosophy, emphasizing adaptability and resilience over rigid control.


Impact

This comment introduced the concept of regulatory transformation and the evolution of regulatory identity. It demonstrated how smaller nations can be change agents and influenced the discussion toward collaborative, partnership-based approaches to regulation.


For us digital inclusion is not an afterthought but a central objective. We are convinced that digital public policy should serve as a tool for equity, social cohesion and sustainable development.

Speaker

Mr. Federico Chacon Loaiza


Reason

This comment is insightful because it positions digital inclusion not as a secondary consideration but as the primary objective of regulatory policy. It reframes the entire regulatory mission around equity and social cohesion, suggesting that technical and competitive considerations should serve broader social goals.


Impact

This comment provided a strong conclusion to the discussion by emphasizing the ultimate purpose of digital regulation. It reinforced themes of inclusion and equity that had been building throughout the conversation and demonstrated how regulatory frameworks can be designed with social objectives at their core.


Overall assessment

These key comments collectively shaped the discussion by establishing a progression from identifying core regulatory challenges to presenting innovative solutions and ultimately defining the social purpose of digital regulation. The conversation evolved from Dr. Masselos’s foundational challenge of balancing investment and competition, through practical examples of regulatory innovation from Nigeria and Portugal, to broader concepts of regulatory transformation from Georgia, and finally to the social mission articulated by Costa Rica. Each comment built upon previous insights while introducing new dimensions – from technical and economic considerations to behavioral economics, from national approaches to international collaboration, and from regulatory efficiency to social equity. The discussion demonstrated a global consensus on the need for regulatory evolution while showcasing diverse approaches to achieving similar goals of inclusive, competitive, and sustainable digital transformation.


Follow-up questions

How to maintain traditional command and control regulatory approaches effectively at scale in large populations

Speaker

Dr. Aminu Maida


Explanation

Dr. Maida mentioned that maintaining the traditional approach effectively would cost a lot of money for Nigeria’s 220 million people, and he couldn’t find examples of how to maintain that approach at scale, suggesting this needs further research


How to integrate behavioral economics tools into global digital policy frameworks

Speaker

Professor Sandra Massimiano


Explanation

She mentioned ANACOM is working with CEPT to contribute to European Common Proposal for the upcoming World Telecommunication Development Conference in Baku, seeking to strengthen ITU’s mandate on consumer protection grounded in behavioral economics


How to ensure consistent application of digital services regulation across the EU

Speaker

Professor Sandra Massimiano


Explanation

She emphasized the importance of cooperation with other coordinators across the EU and the European Commission to ensure coordinated approach and consistent regulation application


How to develop effective automated systems for detecting and responding to unscheduled events and emergencies

Speaker

Mr. Mothibi Ramusi


Explanation

He mentioned the importance of implementing automated systems for emergency and disaster response as part of future-ready digital infrastructure


How smaller nations can become changing anchors in the digital ecosystem through partnerships

Speaker

Ms. Ekaterine Imedadze


Explanation

She emphasized that through strong partnerships and collaboration, even small nations can become significant players in digital transformation, suggesting this model needs further exploration


How to ensure internet governance decisions remain grounded in operational realities and technical expertise

Speaker

Dr. Charles Noir


Explanation

He highlighted the need for technical operators to participate in governance spaces to ensure decisions about internet security and trust are informed by technical expertise


How to scale successful digital inclusion models like Costa Rica’s FONATEL to other contexts

Speaker

Mr. Federico Chacon Loaiza


Explanation

His presentation of Costa Rica’s successful approach to digital inclusion through the National Telecommunications Fund suggests this model could be studied for replication in other countries


Disclaimer: This is not an official session record. DiploAI generates these resources from audiovisual recordings, and they are presented as-is, including potential errors. Due to logistical challenges, such as discrepancies in audio/video or transcripts, names may be misspelled. We strive for accuracy to the best of our ability.

Leaders TalkX: Local to global: preserving culture and language in a digital era

Leaders TalkX: Local to global: preserving culture and language in a digital era

Session at a glance

Summary

This Leaders’ Talk focused on preserving cultural and linguistic diversity in the digital era, particularly as artificial intelligence becomes increasingly dominant in how people access information and services. The discussion highlighted that while this challenge began over 20 years ago with the rise of the internet, it has become more critical today with AI-driven technologies that are predominantly trained on English-language content, representing over 90% of large language models.


Gatis Ozols from Latvia described his country’s proactive approach to digitalizing the Latvian language, emphasizing that multilinguality must be viewed as a core principle rather than just a feature of AI systems. He outlined Latvia’s strategy of developing national language resources, supporting machine translation, and ensuring citizens can access government services in their native language. Pierre Bonis from AFNIC stressed that cultural diversity extends beyond language to include legal frameworks, news, and local content, noting that locally hosted content with local domain names remains crucial for cultural preservation.


Elisabeth Stewart Bradley from the International Trademark Association highlighted the particular challenges facing indigenous communities, whose traditional knowledge and cultural expressions are increasingly at risk of exploitation through AI systems without proper recognition or compensation. Peter Bruck from the World Summit Award provided a sobering perspective, arguing that social media and algorithmic content have actually worked against cultural preservation, with young people worldwide aspiring to become social media influencers rather than preserving their cultural heritage.


The panelists agreed that preserving linguistic and cultural diversity requires political will, adequate funding, and keeping this issue high on policy agendas, as access to information in one’s native language is a fundamental human right essential to respecting humanity’s full diversity.


Keypoints

**Major Discussion Points:**


– **Government and policy initiatives for language preservation**: Latvia’s proactive approach to digitalizing smaller languages, including subsidizing language resources, developing machine translation tools, and creating AI-powered public services in Latvian to ensure citizens can access government services in their native language.


– **Technical infrastructure and domain name systems**: The role of local internet registries and domain names in preserving cultural diversity, including locally hosted content, search engine optimization challenges, and the need to rebuild discoverability systems as AI-powered prompts potentially replace traditional search engines.


– **Indigenous rights and intellectual property protection**: The challenges of protecting traditional knowledge and cultural expressions from exploitation, particularly as AI compounds existing issues around cultural appropriation, and the need for balanced frameworks that respect indigenous communities while allowing respectful innovation.


– **The dark side of digital transformation**: A critical examination of how social media algorithms and big tech monopolization are actually eliminating cultural diversity rather than preserving it, with concerns about young people aspiring to become social media influencers rather than connecting with their cultural heritage.


– **AI as both threat and opportunity**: The dual nature of artificial intelligence in cultural preservation – while AI can help digitize endangered languages and provide translation services, there’s a risk that AI systems trained primarily on Western content will further marginalize minority cultures and languages.


**Overall Purpose:**


The discussion aimed to examine strategies for preserving cultural and linguistic diversity in the digital age, particularly with the rise of AI technologies, and to assess progress made since the original World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) 20 years ago.


**Overall Tone:**


The discussion began with a measured, optimistic tone as speakers shared successful initiatives and technical solutions. However, the tone shifted notably toward concern and urgency, particularly with Professor Bruck’s “wake-up call” about the dark side of digital transformation. The conversation concluded on a sobering but determined note, emphasizing that cultural and linguistic diversity is a fundamental human right that requires continued vigilance and action to protect.


Speakers

– **Caroline Vuillemin**: Session moderator/chair


– **Gatis Ozols**: Deputy State Secretary for Digital Transformation of the Government of Latvia


– **Pierre Bonis**: Chief Executive Officer of AFNIC (French Internet Registry)


– **Elisabeth Stewart Bradley**: Representative from the International Trademark Association (INTA)


– **Peter A. Bruck**: Professor, World Summit Award founder/representative


– **Narendra Kumar Goyal**: Representative of an association with 74 partners and 48,500 members (specific organization not clearly mentioned)


– **Alfredo Ronchi**: Secretary General of EC Medici Framework, cooperates with UNESCO-IFAP initiative


**Additional speakers:**


None identified beyond the provided speakers names list.


Full session report

# Leaders’ Talk: Preserving Cultural and Linguistic Diversity in the Digital Era


## Executive Summary


This Leaders’ Talk, moderated by Caroline Vuillemin as part of the WSIS+20 review focusing on Action Line C8 (cultural diversity, linguistic diversity and local content), brought together six distinguished speakers to examine the challenge of preserving cultural and linguistic diversity in an AI-dominated digital landscape. The discussion highlighted that while this challenge began with the rise of the internet, it has intensified with artificial intelligence systems predominantly trained on English-language content, representing over 90% of large language models.


Speakers presented diverse perspectives ranging from successful national digitization initiatives to critical assessments of technology’s impact on cultural preservation. The conversation emphasized that access to information in one’s native language constitutes a fundamental human right essential to respecting humanity’s full diversity.


## Opening Context and Framework


Caroline Vuillemin established that languages and culture encompass ways of seeing the world, representing ourselves, and understanding each other beyond mere words. She emphasized that preserving cultural diversity requires anticipation, political will, adequate funding, and keeping this issue high on policy agendas. The session was positioned within the broader WSIS+20 review context, examining progress made since the original summit and identifying emerging challenges in the digital transformation era.


## National Strategies and Initiatives


### Latvia’s Digital Language Development


Gatis Ozols, Deputy State Secretary for Digital Transformation of the Government of Latvia, presented Latvia’s comprehensive approach to digitalizing the Latvian language. Latvia began developing national policies 15-20 years ago to subsidize and develop language resources for digital tools, starting with machine translation initiatives. This early preparation has enabled Latvia to create AI-powered public services in Latvian, ensuring citizens can access government services in their native language.


Ozols emphasized a key principle: “Multilinguality and cultural diversity has to be viewed as core principle, not as a feature of gen AI.” He identified two paths being pursued – multinational companies training central global large language models, and the European Union approach supporting national and regional initiatives. He advocated for a dual approach, working with multinational companies while developing national resources.


### India’s Bhasani Programme


Narendra Kumar Goyal presented India’s Bhasani programme supporting 22 regional languages with 3 billion users, enabling speech translation across 21 languages. He outlined a comprehensive four-point framework:


1. **Use AI as a cultural ally**: Digitize languages through speech recognition and enable AI-powered translation tools


2. **Empower local voices**: Support content creators and promote intergenerational cultural exchange


3. **Tackle key challenges**: Address data gaps for lesser-known languages, ensure cultural sensitivity in AI design, and bridge the digital divide with adequate infrastructure and education


4. **Create an inclusive ecosystem**: Champion multi-language content creation and push for language equity in digital platforms


Goyal emphasized that “we cannot describe our culture and our land if we do not have a language,” highlighting that preserving culture means nurturing the spirit and identity of communities from within.


## Infrastructure and Technical Perspectives


### Internet Infrastructure and Cultural Frameworks


Pierre Bonis, Chief Executive Officer of AFNIC (French Internet Registry), expanded the discussion beyond language to broader cultural frameworks. He stressed that cultural diversity extends beyond language to include legal frameworks, news, and regulatory proximity that international companies may not respect. Local domain names and locally hosted content (.fr, .de, .sn) play a crucial role in cultural and linguistic diversity preservation.


Bonis raised a critical concern about AI’s impact on content discoverability: “If PROMPT replace search engines, in a way we are going to have to rebuild all the efforts that we did for 20 years in terms of search engine optimization, in terms of where are the sources, where can I check that this content is actually coming from a place.” He also mentioned ISOC France’s scrutiny of Facebook’s terms of use as an example of protecting local cultural and legal frameworks.


### Indigenous Rights and Intellectual Property


Elisabeth Stewart Bradley, representing the International Trademark Association (INTA), highlighted vulnerabilities facing indigenous communities in the digital age. She explained that traditional knowledge and cultural expressions face increased exploitation risks without proper recognition or compensation, with AI compounding existing issues around cultural appropriation.


Bradley outlined INTA’s five foundational principles for AI implementation in intellectual property protection, emphasizing the need for human oversight, transparency, and lawful access to data for rights enforcement. She argued for harmonized national frameworks to balance cultural preservation with innovation while respecting indigenous communities.


## Critical Assessment and Challenges


### Technology’s Impact on Cultural Preservation


Professor Peter A. Bruck from the World Summit Award provided a critical assessment of technology’s role in cultural preservation. He argued that current discussions focus too heavily on technical solutions while ignoring fundamental problems: “today we need to not just talk about the bright side, we need to talk about the dark side… if you are not willing to address that in terms of preserving culture and language in the digital era, you are just wrong.”


Bruck identified several key challenges:


– Young people worldwide aspire to become Instagram influencers rather than preserving cultural heritage


– Social media algorithms favor extremist emotional content and push misinformation


– The monopolization of user data by five big tech companies requires taxation to fund cultural preservation resources


– Without addressing hyperscale company monopolization, there will be insufficient resources for cultural preservation


### AI Systems and Cultural Representation


Alfredo Ronchi, Secretary General of EC Medici Framework, emphasized that different AI systems should be trained on different cultural documentation to avoid minoritizing creativities worldwide. He referenced the UNESCO-IFAP initiative and the atlas of living languages, stressing the importance of keeping humans at the center of technology to avoid losing cultural identity.


Ronchi argued that current AI systems predominantly reflect Western cultural perspectives, risking the marginalization of non-Western creativities and intelligences.


## Key Themes and Challenges


### AI as Both Threat and Opportunity


The discussion revealed AI’s dual nature in cultural preservation:


**Threats identified:**


– Large language models over 90% trained in one language create representation gaps


– AI systems predominantly reflect Western cultural perspectives


– Replacement of search engines with AI prompts threatens content discoverability


– Current AI training data lacks adequate representation of diverse cultures


**Opportunities recognized:**


– AI can digitize endangered languages and build living dictionaries


– Machine translation tools can provide native language access to services


– AI-powered systems can enable universal translation for international communication


– Technology can support intergenerational cultural exchange


### Unresolved Technical and Policy Challenges


Several critical challenges require further attention:


– Rebuilding search optimization efforts as AI prompts replace traditional search


– Addressing data gaps for lesser-known languages in AI training


– Developing harmonized frameworks balancing cultural preservation with innovation


– Creating funding mechanisms for cultural preservation initiatives


– Protecting indigenous rights and traditional knowledge from exploitation


## Conclusion


The Leaders’ Talk demonstrated that preserving cultural and linguistic diversity in the digital era requires coordinated efforts combining technical innovation, policy reform, and cultural awareness. While speakers presented different approaches – from collaborative engagement with multinational companies to critical confrontation of existing systems – they shared recognition that cultural and linguistic diversity represents a fundamental human right.


As Caroline Vuillemin concluded, preserving linguistic diversity and cultural heritage requires sustained political will, adequate funding, and continued vigilance to ensure technological advancement serves humanity’s full diversity. The session’s emphasis on diversity and inclusion as “basic human rights” and the need to respect “humanity in its globality” provides a foundation for future collaboration. A follow-up session was scheduled for Friday, with participants invited to join the World Summit Award global community for continued engagement on these critical challenges.


Session transcript

Caroline Vuillemin: Welcome everybody to this Leaders’ Talk on Local to Global, Preserving Culture and Language in a Digital Era. This session will be about inclusion and representation of all human diversity in today’s digital world. This is not a new question. It started more than 20 years ago with the rise of the Internet, but today in a truly digital world and with the rise of artificial intelligence, the question is more important than ever. So we will hear from various perspectives this afternoon on how to preserve that diversity if it is indeed important and a shared ambition and vision. I’d like to start with Mr. Ossorz, the Deputy State Secretary for Digital Transformation of the Government of Latvia. I have a question for you, sir. While Latvian is one of the smaller languages facing unique challenges in the digital age, the country of Latvia has emerged as a front-runner in advancing research and development for other underrepresented languages across the EU. Could you please describe your country’s strategy and the key initiatives aimed at digitalizing the Latvian language to ensure its comprehensive inclusion in AI-driven technologies?


Gatis Ozols: Hello. Thank you, madam, and it’s a pleasure to be here and share our international experience regarding this. When we speak now about AI and multilinguality and different cultures in the AI session, we already speak about that currently the large language models that are largely used by the community, by consumer products, largely are more than 90% trained by one language. Actually, we recognize this important aspect as being a small and compact country, so we have to take care of our language and digital environment early on. It was already, I suppose, some 15, 20 years ago when it started with machine translation and such tools, so we put in a high position in our national policy, and we started to subsidize and we started to pay special attention to develop those national language resources to train digital tools for the Latvian language. Now we see it as an important aspect not only for the Latvian language, but actually for most of the languages in the world which are underrepresented on digital environment, also on AI tools. So how we approach it, initially we developed and facilitated programs nationally to develop language resources on Latvian language. It was like initial to build the base, so to train initially the machine translation to ensure that our Latvian citizens can use internet, which is mostly English-driven, and our own natural language for e-commerce, it was also very essential. Then of course it was also essential to access public services, so initially for European countries, it’s like more than 27 countries, you have to access in different languages, but then when we developed this language technologies, we saw it also helps for accessibility of public services not only, but also in internet, like text-to-speech, speech-to-text, it’s ensure accessibility. Also for public services, the national platform for AI assistance for the citizens, so they can approach the government digitally, they’ve been answered in the Latvian language. So this has allowed us to ensure this multilinguality and accessibility of public services and public resources, and also to ensure that those resources are available for the citizens. Further now with AI, I think it becomes even more critical to ensure this multi-language and multicultural representation, as AI becomes the first of the main way how we interact with different services and consumer products, and I would like to focus briefly on three aspects to ensure this. First one, multilinguality as a core principle, access to language resources and access to compute and expertise. Multilinguality and cultural diversity has to be viewed as core principle, not as a feature of gen AI. It’s our position and our view nationally. We see that there are different paths that have been taken, industry part, it’s taken by companies, multinationals that train central global LLMs, and there’s another part, or the way how to approach this, is European Union approach, that we have this national regional initiatives to incentivise and support development of large language models, in our case for EU countries, and provide access to compute. So we have to work on both of those dimensions together with those multinational companies and also to develop our national resources to ensure that all the languages and cultures are represented nationally.


Caroline Vuillemin: Thank you. So we see that it is about setting priorities, anticipating and having political will to preserve this diversity and languages. I’d like to see now another perspective from Pierre Bonis, the Chief Executive Officer of AFNIC. How do you perceive the importance of preserving cultural and linguistic diversity through the lens of the French Internet Registry?


Pierre Bonis: Thank you very much, first of all. Thank you for the invitation. I’m sorry to have to speak English, and I’m hoping that my English or British counterparts will not end this week with a very big loss of cultural diversity, which is speaking globish. So we started, of course, 20 years ago, because this is WSIS plus 20, with this Action Line C8, cultural diversity, linguistic diversity and local content. I think it was very wise to mix these different aspects, and especially the local content. And if you look at the challenges that we have, and we still have, in the discoverability of the different contents in different languages and different cultures, the role of the locally host and made content is still very relevant. In that regard, from the French Registry and from other registries, .fr, .de, .sn, etc., the fact that the contents may be hosted locally and may be addressed with local domain names makes sense also. More broadly, we really think that the problem is not only the language, of course it’s very important, access to your own language online, and sometimes the domain name can help, sometimes the search engine can help, but this is also culture, this is news, this is legal framework. I’ll give you an example. In France, ISOC France scrutinized the Facebook terms of use in France. And just so that this is another part of cultural approach, I mean, the legal framework that can be imposed by an international company may not be exactly the one that we are used to in our various countries. So this cultural diversity goes far beyond the pure language approach. It’s really a question of legal, regulatory, and proximity framework. I would end with just quoting, and Mr. Minister, you said that very well, that we have new challenges and opportunity with AI. But one of the challenges we face is that if PROMPT replace search engines, in a way we are going to have to rebuild all the efforts that we did for 20 years in terms of search engine optimization, in terms of where are the sources, where can I check that this content is actually coming from a place. So I think, I mean, this is not, this is just being aware of it. But being aware of it is making sure that the AI is not going to… Once again, having all the work to do to make sure that our cultures, our diversity is seen on the Internet. Thank you.


Caroline Vuillemin: Thank you very much. As you said, languages and culture are not only words. There are also ways of seeing the world, ways of representing ourselves, ways of understanding each other. So it’s very important to take this into account with the technology. I’d like now to turn to Elisabeth Stewart Bradley from the International Trademark Association. So another point of view still. Your association is dedicated to the protection of intellectual property to foster consumer trust, economic growth and innovation. And it is also committed to building a better society through brands. How does the protection of linguistic identity and local content fit into your organization’s mission?


Elisabeth Stewart Bradley: Thank you for this question. I’m sorry for the glasses, but I really am having trouble here. So first, I would like to thank ITU Secretary General Doreen Bogdan-Martin, the WSIS sponsors and organizers, and my fellow high-level panelists. It’s an honor to be here with you today. INTA’s mission seeks sustainable answers to global challenges. This is complementary to the SDGs as our work focuses primarily on SDG 9, industry, innovation and infrastructure. Last year, our intervention emphasized the importance of enhancing the availability of domain names in local languages. While domain names remain top of mind, there is now an even greater focus on how AI affects the preservation of culture and language. For example, the protection of indigenous rights has long presented challenges to both brand owners and indigenous communities. And AI is now compounding that. Traditional knowledge and cultural expressions have been passed down through generations. But in many cases, they have been exploited and appropriated without proper recognition or compensation. This leads to the loss of control of indigenous people over their cultural heritage. For brand owners, this presents challenges in terms of respecting the rights of indigenous communities while also wanting to adopt elements of their culture into products, services, and marketing strategies in reasonable and respectful ways. INTA has a dedicated indigenous rights committee that includes a globally diverse membership. And we actively participate in discussions at WIPO. Our goal within the global community is to harmonize and balance how indigenous culture and language may be protected and incorporated in the development of new products and services. Notably, there have been positive advancements in recognition and safeguarding of indigenous rights, including legal reforms and greater awareness of indigenous issues. However, challenges persist, like the lack of harmonized national frameworks to ensure the proper balance between cultural preservation and innovation. Rapid advancements in technology have raised concerns about indigenous heritage use by AI, lack of representation, and lack of consultation. In terms of the implementation of AI to help protect IP, including indigenous rights, INTA supports policies based on five foundational principles that include recognizing human versus machine contributions, final decisions on the granting or revocation of rights should be subject to human oversight, rights holders should be able to obtain lawful access to data for the purpose of enforcing IP rights, customers should know the source of information received by AI, and transparency should be balanced with the need to protect proprietary information. INTA fosters the exchange of global perspectives by its thousands of members from around the world. INTA recently adopted AI-based technology to provide universal translation services for participants at our meetings. Our most recent annual meeting hosted more than 10,000 participants. Until the implementation of AI-based translation programs, organizations such as INTA could not afford translation services. Providing greater access through translation allows participants to return to their countries with powerful information to help preserve their valuable inventions. In closing, I’d just like to say that WSIS enables the spirit of multi-stakeholder engagement. Thank you so much.


Caroline Vuillemin: Thank you. And thank you for highlighting the challenge of the national frameworks versus the global approach. At the current era of crisis in multilateralism, I think national frameworks still have to exist, but to be comprehensive and coordinated among various nations. We will now listen to Professor Brook from the World Summit Award, and maybe look back 20 years ago when you initiated at the first WSIS conference in Geneva the World Summit Award. How has the challenge of preserving culture and language in the digital era changed since then?


Peter A. Bruck: Thank you very much, Caroline. That’s a wonderful question, which leads me to say that in 2003 we looked at the information and communication technologies with optimism. And today we need to not just talk about the bright side, we need to talk about the dark side. And only those who are addressing the dark side and the issues are actually credible interlocutors for where we should go in the future, because we cannot parrot again what we have talked about and the way we have talked about in 2003 about the WSIS Action Plan. I had lunch today with three people, one person from Jordan, another one from Malaysia, and the other one from Cyprus. And they all know that their children and their grandchildren, female, 14 years old, have as an idea for where they want to go in their lives to be an Instagram influencer. And I say to you, everybody in this room, if you are not willing to address that in terms of preserving culture and language in the digital era, you are just wrong in terms of this place. You have to address it, we have to address it. The huge achievement of social media has in fact turned against preserving cultural heritage. And cultural diversity is not just reduced, but it is eliminated around the world in many different ways. And I think that if we are not looking at what algorithmic media do in terms of favoring not just this kind of fantasies of young women, but also in terms of democracy by favoring extremist emotional, cultural, and political content, and push nonsense to people, lies, hate speech, and fake news, we are just missing the opportunity of looking at business plus 20. User data are collected from every corner of the world, and they are monopolized by five big tech companies. And if we are not addressing the monopolization of that, which is hyperscaling, by taxing those hyperscale companies, we are just not having the resources for cultural preservation and diversity. The World Summit Award was created actually in 2003, ironically, to identify the richness and the plurality, the diversity of high quality contents around the world. And we were looking at that time at ICT as being a means to do it. Today, I have to acknowledge the needs for the World Summit Award, and its global community of creative people who look for a positive social impact is not lesser, but greater. Because we are losing diversity, we are losing our cultural heritage, and we are not preserving it. So, from my point of view, I invite each and everyone in this room to join us in terms of this global community, and also to act in terms of making WSA also a follow-on activity to WSIS 2030. Thank you. I hope I am in time.


Caroline Vuillemin: Yes, perfect.


Peter A. Bruck: I can see that there are some people who are on Instagram and who clap still. Thank you very much.


Caroline Vuillemin: Thank you, and thank you for that wake-up call, which should not be a wake-up call, because I think we all have the same reality in front of us in terms of losing diversity in the last 20 years, which is not what the spirit of WSA is.


Narendra Kumar Goyal: Thank you very much. And I’m happy that before me our panelists said two important things. Social media influencing and changing our life. The new generation is forgetting the old culture, our language, our heritage. And five tech companies trying to do everything for all of us. Led by these things, my association has 74 partners with a large base of 48,500 members. So we discussed this ourselves, what is the way out to preserve the cultural heritage. We came out with two statements and four points in brief. The statement says we cannot describe our culture and our land if we do not have a language. And preserving culture means nurturing the spirit and identity of communities from within. Now there are four things. One is use AI as a cultural ally. Digitize intense languages via speech recognition and transcription. Enable access with AI powered translation and language learning tools. Build curriculum and living dictionaries to preserve oral traditions. Second point was empower local voices. Support the creators of native languages with the digitalized tools, storytelling, and next promote intergenerational exchange through technical enabled mentorship. Celebrate culture online, customs, folk fare, musics. Third point is tackle the challenges. Address data gaps for developing lesser known languages. Ensure cultural sensibility via AI design. Bridge the digital divide with infrastructure and education. And the last topic is create inclusive ecosystem. In this champion multi-language content across media platforms. Push for language equity in the technical tools, transforms, fund preservation projects at the government and grassroot level. Within the next 30 minutes I want to share the Indian experience. India has 22 regional languages. Our government made a program called Bhasani, Indian languages. And we have, as a man there is a speech by our leader. It is transferred into 21 languages across the country. There are 3 billion users as of now. Thank you very much.


Caroline Vuillemin: Thank you very much. Impressive figures from a Swiss citizen with only four languages in our country. Thank you for your contribution. Last but not least I want to turn now to Prof. Alfredo Ronchi. You’re the Secretary General of EC Medici Firmwork. So maybe a last question to give us hope and perspective. Can the digital age jeopardize cultural and linguistic diversity?


Alfredo Ronchi: Okay, thank you Madam Chair. Yes, so good afternoon first of all. So yes, this is a question that was posed a long time ago. As you introduced the session before, it’s something that basically coupled with the explosion of the use of the internet that boosted the idea of globalization with the risk to jeopardize cultural models, cultural identities, and of course languages. I used to cooperate with UNESCO-IFAP initiative and this was one of the key topics to be discussed in the meeting. So the fact that the atlas of living languages was diminishing the size every year due to the disappearance of a number of languages, minoritized so-called languages, because they were not able to be both spoken and then represented on the internet. And of course this idea to get toward uniformity to provide to young generation a standard model that is almost equal all over the world may probably pose the risk to lose our identities in terms of languages that is tightly connected with culture. I am very, let’s say, fond of studying different languages because it’s the best way to understand better some culture, some population, because there’s this tight relation even in the way in which it’s structured, the language. And so it’s for sure the risk to lose some relevant values. And this is really a pity in the set of the culture and languages. But nowadays there’s another technology that comes back after 30 years more or less. In the 80s it was considered one of the monster artificial intelligence, but there was no chance to keep in touch with it at that time because it was too abstract. Let’s say expert system and fuzzy logic. Nowadays thanks to some products like GPT and similar things, people can experience this so they lower in order to enter this technology is very low. Anyone can try it. And the risk again, because we fit such kind of system mainly with some specific set of documents, let’s say some Western culture basically, there’s the risk to lose some other intelligences. So last year we spoke and within some of the sessions at the WISIS, mainly managed by UNESCO, to the idea to create different AI systems fed with different culture, different documentation, in order to do not risk to have minoritized creativities around the world. And this of course is tightly connected with the road to extend, let’s say, the ability to create content in such kind of specific culture and so on. So it is very complicated things. But the point is to try to keep humans in the center and do not become slave of technology, losing our identity. Thank you very much.


Caroline Vuillemin: Thank you. Well, thank you all for your contributions and for keeping with the time. I know it’s very difficult to go into deep thoughts in only three minutes in this topic that is so important and where we would all have hoped to speak in our own language and be very diversified. But maybe next time. As a conclusion, just to wrap up, diversity and inclusion of course are not only values. It is a basic human right. Each individual on earth should have access to content, to information regarding its government, regarding news, regarding economic activities in his or her own maternal language. And it’s not only for commercial incentives and human rights, but it’s really to respect humanity in its globality. So we heard it’s about anticipation, political will, funding, and keeping this high on the agenda. I hope the conclusions of this summit will drive policymakers in that direction. A final summary of the session will be provided and it will take place on Friday, this Friday the 11th at 3 p.m. So please join us to listen to the final conclusion then. Thank you.


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Latvia developed early national policies to subsidize and develop language resources for digital tools, starting with machine translation 15-20 years ago

Explanation

Latvia recognized the importance of protecting its language in the digital environment early on and implemented national policies to subsidize and develop language resources. This proactive approach helped build the foundation for training digital tools in the Latvian language, starting with machine translation to help citizens access the predominantly English internet.


Evidence

Development of machine translation tools, e-commerce applications in Latvian, accessible public services with text-to-speech and speech-to-text capabilities, and a national AI assistance platform for citizens to interact with government in Latvian


Major discussion point

National and Regional Strategies for Language Preservation


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Development


Agreed with

– Narendra Kumar Goyal

Agreed on

Government-led national strategies are essential for language preservation


Multilinguality and cultural diversity must be viewed as core principles, not features, requiring both multinational company cooperation and national resource development

Explanation

Ozols argues that as AI becomes the primary way people interact with services and products, ensuring multilingual and multicultural representation becomes critical. He emphasizes that this should be treated as a fundamental principle rather than an optional feature, requiring a dual approach of working with multinational companies while developing national resources.


Evidence

Recognition that large language models are over 90% trained in one language, and the need for both industry-led global LLMs and EU regional initiatives to support national language model development with access to compute resources


Major discussion point

AI and Technology Challenges for Cultural Diversity


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Legal and regulatory


Disagreed with

– Peter A. Bruck

Disagreed on

Role of big tech companies in cultural preservation


Large language models are over 90% trained in one language, creating representation gaps for smaller languages

Explanation

Ozols highlights a critical technical challenge where current AI systems predominantly use training data from one language, creating significant gaps in representation for smaller languages like Latvian. This technical limitation threatens the ability of speakers of underrepresented languages to effectively use AI-driven technologies.


Evidence

Statistical observation that large language models used in consumer products are more than 90% trained in one language


Major discussion point

AI and Technology Challenges for Cultural Diversity


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Digital standards


Agreed with

– Alfredo Ronchi

Agreed on

AI systems predominantly trained in one language create representation gaps for smaller languages


P

Pierre Bonis

Speech speed

119 words per minute

Speech length

423 words

Speech time

212 seconds

Local domain names and locally hosted content (.fr, .de, .sn) play a crucial role in cultural and linguistic diversity preservation

Explanation

Bonis argues that the discoverability of content in different languages and cultures is enhanced when content is hosted locally and addressed with local domain names. This approach supports the preservation of cultural and linguistic diversity by making local content more accessible and discoverable.


Evidence

Examples of country-specific domain extensions like .fr (France), .de (Germany), and .sn (Senegal) that facilitate local content hosting and addressing


Major discussion point

Role of Internet Infrastructure in Cultural Preservation


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Critical internet resources


Cultural diversity extends beyond language to include legal frameworks, news, and regulatory proximity that international companies may not respect

Explanation

Bonis emphasizes that cultural preservation involves more than just language translation, encompassing legal systems, news content, and regulatory frameworks. He warns that international companies may impose terms of use and legal frameworks that don’t align with local cultural and legal traditions.


Evidence

Example of ISOC France scrutinizing Facebook’s terms of use in France, demonstrating how international companies’ legal frameworks may not match local cultural expectations


Major discussion point

Role of Internet Infrastructure in Cultural Preservation


Topics

Cultural diversity | Legal and regulatory | Jurisdiction


Agreed with

– Caroline Vuillemin

Agreed on

Cultural preservation extends beyond language to encompass broader frameworks


AI replacing search engines with prompts threatens 20 years of work in search engine optimization and content discoverability

Explanation

Bonis warns that the shift from traditional search engines to AI-powered prompt-based systems could undermine decades of work in making diverse cultural content discoverable online. This technological transition poses new challenges for ensuring that cultural diversity remains visible and accessible in digital spaces.


Evidence

Reference to 20 years of search engine optimization work and the challenge of rebuilding content discoverability systems for AI-based search


Major discussion point

AI and Technology Challenges for Cultural Diversity


Topics

Cultural diversity | Digital standards | Content policy


E

Elisabeth Stewart Bradley

Speech speed

144 words per minute

Speech length

507 words

Speech time

211 seconds

Traditional knowledge and cultural expressions face exploitation without proper recognition or compensation, compounded by AI

Explanation

Bradley highlights how indigenous communities have historically faced exploitation of their traditional knowledge and cultural expressions without receiving proper recognition or compensation. She argues that AI technology is now compounding these existing challenges by potentially using indigenous cultural heritage without appropriate consultation or compensation.


Evidence

Reference to traditional knowledge and cultural expressions passed down through generations being exploited and appropriated, leading to loss of control by indigenous people over their cultural heritage


Major discussion point

Intellectual Property and Indigenous Rights Protection


Topics

Intellectual property rights | Cultural diversity | Human rights principles


Brand owners need harmonized national frameworks to balance cultural preservation with innovation while respecting indigenous communities

Explanation

Bradley argues that there’s a need for consistent international frameworks that help brand owners navigate the complex challenge of incorporating elements of indigenous culture into products and services in respectful ways. She emphasizes the importance of balancing innovation with cultural preservation and indigenous rights protection.


Evidence

INTA’s dedicated indigenous rights committee with globally diverse membership and active participation in WIPO discussions, along with mention of legal reforms and greater awareness of indigenous issues


Major discussion point

Intellectual Property and Indigenous Rights Protection


Topics

Intellectual property rights | Cultural diversity | Legal and regulatory


AI implementation for IP protection requires human oversight, transparency, and lawful access to data for rights enforcement

Explanation

Bradley outlines INTA’s position on how AI should be implemented in intellectual property protection, emphasizing the need for human control over key decisions and transparency in AI operations. She argues that while AI can be helpful, it must be implemented with proper safeguards and human oversight to protect rights effectively.


Evidence

INTA’s five foundational principles including recognizing human versus machine contributions, human oversight for granting/revoking rights, lawful data access for IP enforcement, customer knowledge of information sources, and balanced transparency


Major discussion point

Intellectual Property and Indigenous Rights Protection


Topics

Intellectual property rights | Privacy and data protection | Legal and regulatory


P

Peter A. Bruck

Speech speed

144 words per minute

Speech length

497 words

Speech time

207 seconds

Young people worldwide aspire to become Instagram influencers, representing a threat to cultural diversity that must be addressed

Explanation

Bruck argues that the widespread aspiration among young people to become social media influencers represents a homogenizing force that threatens cultural diversity. He contends that this phenomenon must be directly addressed when discussing cultural preservation, as it represents a shift away from traditional cultural values and diversity.


Evidence

Personal anecdote about lunch conversation with people from Jordan, Malaysia, and Cyprus, all reporting that their 14-year-old female relatives aspire to become Instagram influencers


Major discussion point

Social Media and Cultural Homogenization Concerns


Topics

Cultural diversity | Content policy | Digital identities


Social media algorithms favor extremist emotional content and push misinformation, working against cultural heritage preservation

Explanation

Bruck argues that algorithmic media systems are designed to favor emotionally charged, extremist content while promoting lies, hate speech, and fake news. He contends that this algorithmic bias actively works against the preservation of cultural heritage and diversity by promoting sensational content over authentic cultural expression.


Evidence

Reference to algorithmic media favoring extremist emotional, cultural, and political content and pushing nonsense, lies, hate speech, and fake news to users


Major discussion point

Social Media and Cultural Homogenization Concerns


Topics

Cultural diversity | Content policy | Violent extremism


Agreed with

– Alfredo Ronchi

Agreed on

Technology threatens cultural diversity and requires human-centered approaches


Disagreed with

– Narendra Kumar Goyal

Disagreed on

Assessment of technology’s impact on cultural diversity


User data monopolization by five big tech companies requires taxation to fund cultural preservation resources

Explanation

Bruck argues that user data from around the world is being monopolized by five major technology companies through hyperscaling practices. He contends that without taxing these hyperscale companies, there won’t be sufficient resources available for cultural preservation and diversity initiatives.


Evidence

Reference to user data collection from every corner of the world being monopolized by five big tech companies through hyperscaling


Major discussion point

Social Media and Cultural Homogenization Concerns


Topics

Cultural diversity | Taxation | Digital business models


Disagreed with

– Gatis Ozols

Disagreed on

Role of big tech companies in cultural preservation


N

Narendra Kumar Goyal

Speech speed

107 words per minute

Speech length

315 words

Speech time

175 seconds

India implemented the Bhasani program supporting 22 regional languages with 3 billion users, enabling speech translation across 21 languages

Explanation

Goyal presents India’s Bhasani program as a successful example of large-scale language preservation and digitization. The program supports 22 regional languages and has achieved massive adoption with 3 billion users, demonstrating how government-led initiatives can effectively preserve linguistic diversity at scale.


Evidence

Specific mention of the Bhasani program supporting 22 regional languages, serving 3 billion users, and enabling speech translation across 21 languages, with example of leader’s speech being translated into 21 languages across the country


Major discussion point

National and Regional Strategies for Language Preservation


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Digital access


Agreed with

– Gatis Ozols

Agreed on

Government-led national strategies are essential for language preservation


AI should be used as a cultural ally through digitizing languages, enabling translation tools, and building living dictionaries

Explanation

Goyal advocates for a positive approach to AI implementation in cultural preservation, arguing that AI can serve as an ally rather than a threat. He proposes using AI for practical applications like speech recognition, translation services, and creating dynamic dictionaries to preserve oral traditions and make languages more accessible.


Evidence

Specific recommendations including digitizing languages via speech recognition and transcription, AI-powered translation and language learning tools, building curriculum and living dictionaries to preserve oral traditions


Major discussion point

AI and Technology Challenges for Cultural Diversity


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Online education


Disagreed with

– Peter A. Bruck

Disagreed on

Assessment of technology’s impact on cultural diversity


A

Alfredo Ronchi

Speech speed

130 words per minute

Speech length

453 words

Speech time

208 seconds

Different AI systems should be fed with different cultural documentation to avoid minoritizing creativities worldwide

Explanation

Ronchi argues that current AI systems are primarily trained on Western cultural documentation, which risks marginalizing other cultural perspectives and forms of creativity. He advocates for developing multiple AI systems that are trained on diverse cultural documentation to preserve different forms of intelligence and creativity from around the world.


Evidence

Reference to AI systems being fed mainly with Western culture documentation and the risk of losing minoritized creativities, with mention of UNESCO sessions discussing the creation of different AI systems fed with different cultural documentation


Major discussion point

AI and Technology Challenges for Cultural Diversity


Topics

Cultural diversity | Digital standards | Interdisciplinary approaches


Agreed with

– Gatis Ozols

Agreed on

AI systems predominantly trained in one language create representation gaps for smaller languages


Disagreed with

– Gatis Ozols

Disagreed on

Approach to AI development for cultural preservation


The digital age poses risks of cultural uniformity and loss of identity, with languages disappearing from UNESCO’s atlas of living languages

Explanation

Ronchi warns that the digital age and globalization trend toward uniformity pose significant risks to cultural diversity and identity. He points to the concrete evidence of language extinction as documented by UNESCO, where minoritized languages are disappearing because they cannot be adequately represented online.


Evidence

Reference to UNESCO-IFAP initiative discussions and the UNESCO atlas of living languages diminishing in size each year due to disappearance of minoritized languages that cannot be represented on the internet


Major discussion point

Digital Divide and Language Extinction Risks


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Development


Technology should keep humans at the center to avoid becoming slaves to technology and losing cultural identity

Explanation

Ronchi emphasizes the importance of maintaining human agency and control in the face of advancing technology. He argues that the goal should be to use technology as a tool while preserving human cultural identity and avoiding a situation where people become dependent on or controlled by technological systems.


Major discussion point

Digital Divide and Language Extinction Risks


Topics

Cultural diversity | Human rights principles | Digital identities


Agreed with

– Peter A. Bruck

Agreed on

Technology threatens cultural diversity and requires human-centered approaches


C

Caroline Vuillemin

Speech speed

123 words per minute

Speech length

746 words

Speech time

361 seconds

Diversity and inclusion are not only values but a basic human right, requiring access to content in one’s maternal language

Explanation

Vuillemin argues that cultural and linguistic diversity goes beyond being merely desirable values and constitutes a fundamental human right. She emphasizes that every individual should have access to government information, news, and economic activities in their native language, not just for commercial reasons but to respect humanity in its entirety.


Evidence

Reference to access to content about government, news, and economic activities in maternal language as a basic requirement


Major discussion point

Human Rights and Cultural Preservation


Topics

Human rights principles | Cultural diversity | Multilingualism


Languages and culture encompass ways of seeing the world, representing ourselves, and understanding each other beyond just words

Explanation

Vuillemin emphasizes that cultural and linguistic preservation involves much more than vocabulary or grammar. She argues that languages embody entire worldviews, methods of self-representation, and frameworks for mutual understanding that must be considered when developing technology solutions.


Evidence

Reference to languages and culture as ‘ways of seeing the world, ways of representing ourselves, ways of understanding each other’


Major discussion point

Comprehensive Nature of Cultural Preservation


Topics

Cultural diversity | Digital identities | Interdisciplinary approaches


Agreed with

– Pierre Bonis

Agreed on

Cultural preservation extends beyond language to encompass broader frameworks


Preserving cultural diversity requires anticipation, political will, funding, and keeping the issue high on policy agendas

Explanation

Vuillemin identifies four key elements necessary for successful cultural preservation in the digital era. She argues that effective preservation requires proactive planning, strong political commitment, adequate financial resources, and sustained policy attention to ensure long-term success.


Evidence

Summary of session discussions highlighting the need for anticipation, political will, funding, and agenda prioritization


Major discussion point

Policy Requirements for Cultural Preservation


Topics

Cultural diversity | Development | Legal and regulatory


The loss of diversity over the past 20 years contradicts the original spirit of the World Summit on the Information Society

Explanation

Vuillemin acknowledges that the reality of decreasing cultural diversity over the past two decades represents a failure to achieve the original WSIS vision. She suggests that this trend goes against the fundamental principles and aspirations that guided the initial World Summit on the Information Society.


Evidence

Reference to ‘losing diversity in the last 20 years, which is not what the spirit of WSA is’


Major discussion point

WSIS Legacy and Current Challenges


Topics

Cultural diversity | Development | Digital standards


Agreements

Agreement points

AI systems predominantly trained in one language create representation gaps for smaller languages

Speakers

– Gatis Ozols
– Alfredo Ronchi

Arguments

Large language models are over 90% trained in one language, creating representation gaps for smaller languages


Different AI systems should be fed with different cultural documentation to avoid minoritizing creativities worldwide


Summary

Both speakers recognize that current AI systems are biased toward dominant languages/cultures, with Ozols providing specific statistics about 90% single-language training and Ronchi emphasizing the Western cultural bias in AI training data


Topics

Cultural diversity | Digital standards | Multilingualism


Government-led national strategies are essential for language preservation

Speakers

– Gatis Ozols
– Narendra Kumar Goyal

Arguments

Latvia developed early national policies to subsidize and develop language resources for digital tools, starting with machine translation 15-20 years ago


India implemented the Bhasani program supporting 22 regional languages with 3 billion users, enabling speech translation across 21 languages


Summary

Both speakers present successful examples of government-initiated programs for language digitization, with Latvia’s early machine translation efforts and India’s massive Bhasani program demonstrating the effectiveness of national strategies


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Development


Cultural preservation extends beyond language to encompass broader frameworks

Speakers

– Pierre Bonis
– Caroline Vuillemin

Arguments

Cultural diversity extends beyond language to include legal frameworks, news, and regulatory proximity that international companies may not respect


Languages and culture encompass ways of seeing the world, representing ourselves, and understanding each other beyond just words


Summary

Both speakers emphasize that cultural preservation involves comprehensive worldviews, legal systems, and ways of understanding reality, not just linguistic translation


Topics

Cultural diversity | Legal and regulatory | Digital identities


Technology threatens cultural diversity and requires human-centered approaches

Speakers

– Peter A. Bruck
– Alfredo Ronchi

Arguments

Social media algorithms favor extremist emotional content and push misinformation, working against cultural heritage preservation


Technology should keep humans at the center to avoid becoming slaves to technology and losing cultural identity


Summary

Both speakers warn about technology’s potential to undermine cultural diversity and emphasize the need to maintain human agency and control over technological systems


Topics

Cultural diversity | Content policy | Digital identities


Similar viewpoints

Both speakers advocate for proactive, positive approaches to AI implementation in cultural preservation, viewing AI as a tool that can support rather than threaten linguistic diversity when properly implemented with strong national strategies

Speakers

– Gatis Ozols
– Narendra Kumar Goyal

Arguments

Multilinguality and cultural diversity must be viewed as core principles, not features, requiring both multinational company cooperation and national resource development


AI should be used as a cultural ally through digitizing languages, enabling translation tools, and building living dictionaries


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Digital standards


Both speakers emphasize the need for systematic approaches to ensure diverse cultural perspectives are properly represented and protected in technological and legal frameworks, rather than being marginalized by dominant systems

Speakers

– Elisabeth Stewart Bradley
– Alfredo Ronchi

Arguments

Brand owners need harmonized national frameworks to balance cultural preservation with innovation while respecting indigenous communities


Different AI systems should be fed with different cultural documentation to avoid minoritizing creativities worldwide


Topics

Cultural diversity | Legal and regulatory | Intellectual property rights


Both speakers express concern about how algorithmic systems and AI are undermining decades of work in making diverse content discoverable and accessible, potentially erasing cultural diversity achievements

Speakers

– Pierre Bonis
– Peter A. Bruck

Arguments

AI replacing search engines with prompts threatens 20 years of work in search engine optimization and content discoverability


Social media algorithms favor extremist emotional content and push misinformation, working against cultural heritage preservation


Topics

Cultural diversity | Content policy | Digital standards


Unexpected consensus

Need for taxation of big tech companies to fund cultural preservation

Speakers

– Peter A. Bruck

Arguments

User data monopolization by five big tech companies requires taxation to fund cultural preservation resources


Explanation

While only Bruck explicitly mentioned this, his argument about taxing hyperscale companies to fund cultural preservation represents a concrete policy solution that aligns with other speakers’ concerns about tech company dominance, though no other speaker directly addressed this economic approach


Topics

Cultural diversity | Taxation | Digital business models


AI can serve as both threat and ally to cultural preservation

Speakers

– Gatis Ozols
– Narendra Kumar Goyal
– Alfredo Ronchi

Arguments

Multilinguality and cultural diversity must be viewed as core principles, not features, requiring both multinational company cooperation and national resource development


AI should be used as a cultural ally through digitizing languages, enabling translation tools, and building living dictionaries


Different AI systems should be fed with different cultural documentation to avoid minoritizing creativities worldwide


Explanation

Despite concerns about AI’s threats to cultural diversity, multiple speakers converged on the idea that AI can be harnessed positively for cultural preservation when properly designed and implemented with diverse training data and multilingual principles


Topics

Cultural diversity | Digital standards | Multilingualism


Overall assessment

Summary

Speakers demonstrated strong consensus on the fundamental importance of cultural and linguistic diversity preservation, the inadequacy of current AI systems in representing diverse cultures, the need for government-led national strategies, and the recognition that cultural preservation extends beyond language to encompass worldviews and legal frameworks


Consensus level

High level of consensus on problem identification and general principles, with speakers agreeing that current technological systems threaten cultural diversity and that proactive, multi-stakeholder approaches are needed. The consensus suggests a mature understanding of the challenges and points toward coordinated policy responses combining national strategies, international cooperation, and human-centered technology design.


Differences

Different viewpoints

Approach to AI development for cultural preservation

Speakers

– Gatis Ozols
– Alfredo Ronchi

Arguments

Multilinguality and cultural diversity must be viewed as core principles, not features, requiring both multinational company cooperation and national resource development


Different AI systems should be fed with different cultural documentation to avoid minoritizing creativities worldwide


Summary

Ozols advocates for a dual approach working with multinational companies while developing national resources, viewing multilinguality as a core principle. Ronchi argues for creating separate AI systems trained on different cultural documentation to avoid Western cultural dominance, suggesting a more fragmented approach to AI development.


Topics

Cultural diversity | Digital standards | Multilingualism


Assessment of technology’s impact on cultural diversity

Speakers

– Peter A. Bruck
– Narendra Kumar Goyal

Arguments

Social media algorithms favor extremist emotional content and push misinformation, working against cultural heritage preservation


AI should be used as a cultural ally through digitizing languages, enabling translation tools, and building living dictionaries


Summary

Bruck presents a pessimistic view of technology, arguing that social media algorithms actively work against cultural preservation by promoting extremist content. Goyal takes an optimistic stance, viewing AI as a potential ally that can be harnessed for cultural preservation through practical applications.


Topics

Cultural diversity | Content policy | Multilingualism


Role of big tech companies in cultural preservation

Speakers

– Peter A. Bruck
– Gatis Ozols

Arguments

User data monopolization by five big tech companies requires taxation to fund cultural preservation resources


Multilinguality and cultural diversity must be viewed as core principles, not features, requiring both multinational company cooperation and national resource development


Summary

Bruck advocates for a confrontational approach toward big tech companies, calling for taxation to fund cultural preservation. Ozols suggests a collaborative approach, emphasizing the need to work with multinational companies alongside national resource development.


Topics

Cultural diversity | Digital business models | Taxation


Unexpected differences

Optimism vs. pessimism about digital technology’s role

Speakers

– Peter A. Bruck
– Narendra Kumar Goyal

Arguments

Young people worldwide aspire to become Instagram influencers, representing a threat to cultural diversity that must be addressed


India implemented the Bhasani program supporting 22 regional languages with 3 billion users, enabling speech translation across 21 languages


Explanation

This disagreement is unexpected because both speakers are addressing the same fundamental challenge of cultural preservation, yet they have dramatically different assessments of technology’s potential. Bruck’s pessimistic view contrasts sharply with Goyal’s success story, suggesting different regional experiences or philosophical approaches to technology adoption.


Topics

Cultural diversity | Digital identities | Multilingualism


Overall assessment

Summary

The main areas of disagreement center on approaches to AI development, assessment of technology’s impact on culture, and strategies for dealing with big tech companies. While all speakers agree on the importance of cultural preservation, they differ significantly on whether to work with or against existing tech infrastructure.


Disagreement level

Moderate disagreement with significant implications. The disagreements reflect fundamental philosophical differences about technology’s role in society and appropriate policy responses. These differences could lead to fragmented approaches to cultural preservation, potentially undermining coordinated global efforts. However, the shared commitment to cultural diversity provides a foundation for potential compromise and collaboration.


Partial agreements

Partial agreements

Similar viewpoints

Both speakers advocate for proactive, positive approaches to AI implementation in cultural preservation, viewing AI as a tool that can support rather than threaten linguistic diversity when properly implemented with strong national strategies

Speakers

– Gatis Ozols
– Narendra Kumar Goyal

Arguments

Multilinguality and cultural diversity must be viewed as core principles, not features, requiring both multinational company cooperation and national resource development


AI should be used as a cultural ally through digitizing languages, enabling translation tools, and building living dictionaries


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Digital standards


Both speakers emphasize the need for systematic approaches to ensure diverse cultural perspectives are properly represented and protected in technological and legal frameworks, rather than being marginalized by dominant systems

Speakers

– Elisabeth Stewart Bradley
– Alfredo Ronchi

Arguments

Brand owners need harmonized national frameworks to balance cultural preservation with innovation while respecting indigenous communities


Different AI systems should be fed with different cultural documentation to avoid minoritizing creativities worldwide


Topics

Cultural diversity | Legal and regulatory | Intellectual property rights


Both speakers express concern about how algorithmic systems and AI are undermining decades of work in making diverse content discoverable and accessible, potentially erasing cultural diversity achievements

Speakers

– Pierre Bonis
– Peter A. Bruck

Arguments

AI replacing search engines with prompts threatens 20 years of work in search engine optimization and content discoverability


Social media algorithms favor extremist emotional content and push misinformation, working against cultural heritage preservation


Topics

Cultural diversity | Content policy | Digital standards


Takeaways

Key takeaways

Cultural and linguistic diversity preservation is a fundamental human right, not just a commercial or technological feature


Multilinguality must be treated as a core principle in AI development, requiring both cooperation with multinational companies and development of national resources


Early anticipation and political will are crucial – countries like Latvia started developing language resources 15-20 years ago with machine translation


AI poses both opportunities and threats: it can serve as a cultural ally through digitization tools, but current large language models are over 90% trained in one language


Social media and algorithmic content are actively working against cultural diversity by promoting homogenization and extremist content


Local internet infrastructure (domain names, hosting) plays a vital role in preserving cultural diversity beyond just language translation


The digital divide and data monopolization by five big tech companies requires systemic solutions including taxation to fund cultural preservation


Indigenous rights and traditional knowledge face increased exploitation risks with AI development, requiring harmonized national frameworks


Resolutions and action items

A final summary session scheduled for Friday the 11th at 3 p.m. to provide conclusions


Invitation to join the World Summit Award global community as a follow-on activity to WSIS 2030


Need for policymakers to keep cultural and linguistic diversity high on the agenda based on summit conclusions


Development of different AI systems fed with different cultural documentation to avoid minoritizing creativities


Implementation of AI-based technology for universal translation services in international meetings and organizations


Unresolved issues

How to effectively address the influence of social media on young people’s cultural aspirations (Instagram influencer phenomenon)


Lack of harmonized national frameworks to balance cultural preservation with innovation


How to rebuild content discoverability efforts if AI prompts replace search engines


Addressing data gaps for lesser-known languages in AI training


How to ensure cultural sensitivity in AI design and implementation


Bridging the digital divide with adequate infrastructure and education


How to effectively tax hyperscale tech companies to fund cultural preservation resources


Suggested compromises

Working on both dimensions: cooperating with multinational companies while developing national language resources


Balancing transparency in AI systems with the need to protect proprietary information


Finding ways for brand owners to respectfully incorporate indigenous cultural elements while protecting indigenous rights


Using technology as a tool while keeping humans at the center to avoid losing cultural identity


Developing both global AI solutions and region-specific cultural AI systems simultaneously


Thought provoking comments

Multilinguality and cultural diversity has to be viewed as core principle, not as a feature of gen AI… there are different paths that have been taken, industry part, it’s taken by companies, multinationals that train central global LLMs, and there’s another part… European Union approach, that we have this national regional initiatives

Speaker

Gatis Ozols


Reason

This comment reframes the entire discussion by distinguishing between treating linguistic diversity as an optional feature versus a fundamental principle. It also introduces the critical tension between centralized global AI models versus decentralized national/regional approaches, highlighting a key strategic choice facing policymakers.


Impact

This established the foundational framework for the entire discussion, setting up the core tension between global tech companies’ approaches and national preservation efforts. Subsequent speakers built upon this dichotomy, with Pierre Bonis discussing local content hosting and Elisabeth Stewart Bradley addressing the need for harmonized national frameworks.


If PROMPT replace search engines, in a way we are going to have to rebuild all the efforts that we did for 20 years in terms of search engine optimization, in terms of where are the sources, where can I check that this content is actually coming from a place

Speaker

Pierre Bonis


Reason

This insight reveals a profound but often overlooked consequence of AI advancement – that the shift from search engines to AI prompts could undo decades of work in making diverse content discoverable. It highlights how technological progress can inadvertently create new barriers to cultural preservation.


Impact

This comment shifted the discussion from celebrating AI’s potential to acknowledging its disruptive risks. It introduced urgency to the conversation and influenced later speakers to address the ‘dark side’ of technology, particularly Peter Bruck’s more critical assessment.


Today we need to not just talk about the bright side, we need to talk about the dark side… if you are not willing to address that in terms of preserving culture and language in the digital era, you are just wrong… The huge achievement of social media has in fact turned against preserving cultural heritage

Speaker

Peter A. Bruck


Reason

This was a powerful wake-up call that challenged the panel’s relatively optimistic tone. Bruck directly confronted the reality that social media and algorithmic content have actively undermined cultural diversity, using the concrete example of young girls aspiring to be Instagram influencers as evidence of cultural homogenization.


Impact

This comment created a dramatic tonal shift in the discussion, moving from technical solutions and policy frameworks to a more critical examination of technology’s actual impact. It forced subsequent speakers to acknowledge the severity of the challenges and influenced Caroline Vuillemin’s acknowledgment that this ‘should not be a wake-up call’ because the reality is already evident.


User data are collected from every corner of the world, and they are monopolized by five big tech companies. And if we are not addressing the monopolization of that, which is hyperscaling, by taxing those hyperscale companies, we are just not having the resources for cultural preservation and diversity

Speaker

Peter A. Bruck


Reason

This comment connects cultural preservation directly to economic power structures, arguing that without addressing tech monopolization and creating funding mechanisms through taxation, cultural preservation efforts will remain under-resourced. It’s a systemic analysis that goes beyond technical solutions.


Impact

This introduced an economic dimension to the discussion that hadn’t been explicitly addressed before, suggesting that cultural preservation requires not just technical solutions but fundamental changes to how tech companies are regulated and taxed. It influenced Narendra Kumar Goyal’s subsequent emphasis on government funding and grassroots support.


We cannot describe our culture and our land if we do not have a language. And preserving culture means nurturing the spirit and identity of communities from within

Speaker

Narendra Kumar Goyal


Reason

This philosophical insight captures the fundamental relationship between language and cultural identity, emphasizing that preservation must come from within communities rather than being imposed externally. It provides a humanistic counterpoint to the technical discussions.


Impact

This comment grounded the discussion in fundamental human values and shifted focus toward community-driven solutions. It influenced the moderator’s final emphasis on diversity and inclusion as ‘basic human rights’ and helped frame the conclusion around respecting ‘humanity in its globality.’


Overall assessment

These key comments transformed what could have been a purely technical discussion about AI and language tools into a nuanced examination of power structures, cultural values, and systemic challenges. The progression from Ozols’ strategic framework, through Bonis’ technical concerns, to Bruck’s critical wake-up call, and finally to Goyal’s humanistic grounding created a comprehensive dialogue that acknowledged both opportunities and threats. The comments collectively shifted the discussion from optimistic problem-solving to realistic assessment of the scale of challenges, ultimately leading to Caroline Vuillemin’s conclusion that framed linguistic diversity as a fundamental human right requiring political will and sustained funding.


Follow-up questions

How to rebuild search engine optimization efforts and source verification systems when AI prompts replace traditional search engines

Speaker

Pierre Bonis


Explanation

This addresses a critical challenge where 20 years of work on search engine optimization and content discoverability may need to be rebuilt as AI systems change how people access information


How to develop harmonized national frameworks that balance cultural preservation with innovation, particularly for indigenous rights protection

Speaker

Elisabeth Stewart Bradley


Explanation

The lack of consistent international frameworks creates challenges in protecting indigenous cultural heritage while allowing respectful innovation and commercial use


How to address the monopolization of user data by five big tech companies and implement taxation of hyperscale companies to fund cultural preservation

Speaker

Peter A. Bruck


Explanation

This tackles the fundamental issue of resource concentration and funding mechanisms needed to support cultural diversity initiatives globally


How to address data gaps for developing AI systems that support lesser-known and minoritized languages

Speaker

Narendra Kumar Goyal


Explanation

Many languages lack sufficient digital data to train AI systems, creating barriers to their preservation and digital inclusion


How to create different AI systems fed with diverse cultural documentation to avoid minoritizing non-Western creativities and intelligences

Speaker

Alfredo Ronchi


Explanation

Current AI systems are predominantly trained on Western content, risking the loss of diverse cultural perspectives and ways of thinking


How to counter the homogenizing effects of social media algorithms that favor extremist content and eliminate cultural diversity

Speaker

Peter A. Bruck


Explanation

Social media platforms are actively reducing cultural diversity through algorithmic promotion of uniform content and extremist material


How to ensure cultural sensitivity in AI design and development processes

Speaker

Narendra Kumar Goyal


Explanation

AI systems need to be designed with cultural awareness to avoid perpetuating biases or misrepresenting cultural content


How to scale successful national language digitization programs like Latvia’s and India’s Bhasani to other countries and languages

Speaker

Gatis Ozols and Narendra Kumar Goyal


Explanation

Understanding how to replicate successful models could help preserve more languages globally in the digital age


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WSIS+20 Overall Review multistakeholder consultation with co-facilitators

WSIS+20 Overall Review multistakeholder consultation with co-facilitators

Session at a glance

Summary

This discussion was an interactive stakeholder consultation session for the WSIS+20 review process, featuring co-facilitators Ambassador Suela Janina and Ambassador Ekitela Lokaale, along with ECOSOC President Robert Ray. The session aimed to gather input from various stakeholders including government representatives, civil society, private sector, and technical community members on the upcoming World Summit on the Information Society review.


The co-facilitators emphasized their commitment to maintaining an open, transparent, and inclusive process throughout the WSIS+20 review. They outlined their roadmap, which includes extending the deadline for input submissions to July 25th, preparing a zero draft in August, and conducting both virtual and hybrid consultations to accommodate global participation challenges. Ambassador Janina stressed the importance of building on what has worked well over the past 20 years while addressing areas needing improvement.


Participants raised several key concerns and suggestions during the consultation. Multiple stakeholders emphasized the need for genuine multi-stakeholder participation throughout the process, particularly during intergovernmental negotiations. There were significant concerns about accessibility, with many noting that visa restrictions and travel costs create barriers for Global South participation in New York-based meetings. Several speakers called for the process to be forward-looking rather than revisiting settled debates, while others argued that some issues may need reopening due to technological and societal changes over the past two decades.


The discussion highlighted the importance of coordination between WSIS+20 and other ongoing UN processes, particularly the Global Digital Compact and Internet Governance Forum. Participants suggested strengthening regional and national IGFs to enable broader participation and better implementation monitoring. The co-facilitators acknowledged these challenges and committed to using technology creatively to enhance inclusion, while maintaining transparency through detailed summaries and documentation of all consultations on the dedicated UNDESA webpage.


Keypoints

## Major Discussion Points:


– **WSIS+20 Review Process and Timeline**: Extensive discussion about the roadmap for the World Summit on the Information Society 20-year review, including key dates, consultation phases, and the preparation of zero drafts. Participants sought clarification on specific timelines, particularly regarding consultations scheduled for August through December 2024.


– **Multi-stakeholder Participation and Inclusivity Challenges**: Significant focus on ensuring meaningful participation from all stakeholder groups, with particular concern about barriers to participation in New York-based consultations due to visa restrictions, funding constraints, and geographic accessibility. Discussions included proposals for hybrid formats and virtual participation options.


– **Integration and Coordination with Other UN Processes**: Participants raised questions about how the WSIS+20 review would align with other ongoing UN initiatives, particularly the Global Digital Compact (GDC), IGF (Internet Governance Forum), and various AI governance processes to avoid duplication and fragmentation.


– **Future-focused vs. Historical Approach**: Debate about whether to focus on forward-looking solutions rather than revisiting settled language from previous agreements, while acknowledging that some issues may need updating to reflect technological and societal changes over the past 20 years.


– **Strengthening Implementation and Monitoring Mechanisms**: Discussion about improving the effectiveness of WSIS action lines, enhancing the role of IGF in monitoring progress, and creating better coordination between national, regional, and global levels of implementation.


## Overall Purpose:


The discussion was an interactive consultation session between WSIS+20 co-facilitators (Ambassadors Janina and Lokaale) and multi-stakeholder participants to gather input on the review process of the World Summit on the Information Society after 20 years. The goal was to collect perspectives, expectations, and recommendations to inform the preparation of the review documents and ensure an inclusive, transparent process.


## Overall Tone:


The discussion maintained a collaborative and constructive tone throughout. It began formally with introductory remarks but quickly became more interactive and engaging as participants raised practical concerns and suggestions. The co-facilitators demonstrated openness to feedback and flexibility in addressing stakeholder concerns, particularly around participation barriers. While some tensions emerged around procedural challenges and resource constraints, the overall atmosphere remained positive and solution-oriented, with all parties expressing commitment to making the process as inclusive and effective as possible.


Speakers

**Speakers from the provided list:**


– **Anita Gurumurthy** – Session moderator/facilitator


– **Ekitela Lokaale** – Ambassador, WSIS+20 co-facilitator


– **Gitanjali Sah** – Session organizer/moderator


– **Online participant** – Dr. Lab Singh, Vice reporter on study group about digital skill framework, 35 years experience in IT and telecom sector in India


– **Panelist 1** – Kusaya Al-Shati from Kuwait, Private sector


– **Bruna Santos** – Works at Witness, a human rights organization based in New York that works on AI


– **Suela Janina** – Ambassador, WSIS+20 co-facilitator


– **Paloma Lara Castro** – Representing Derechos Digitales, part of the Global Digital Justice Forum in the WSIS Coalition


– **Panelist 3** – Chris Buckridge, Member of the IGF MAG for the technical community, member of the sounding board


– **Konstantinos Komaitis** – Session moderator/facilitator


– **Participant 1** – Canadian Ambassador, President of ECOSOC (Mr. Robert Ray)


– **Panelist 9** – (Role/expertise not specified)


– **Panelist 7** – Titi Casa, Works for Italian government


– **Panelist 8** – Ellie McDonald, Speaking on behalf of Global Partners Digital, member of the Global Digital Rights Coalition


– **Panelist 2** – Chris Adamson, UK Department of Science, Innovation, and Technology


– **Panelist 4** – Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Retired professor, MUG member, member of the sounding board


– **Panelist 5** – Sébastien Bachelet, Internet Society France, chair of EURALO (end user within ICANN from Europe)


– **Panelist 10** – William Lee, Australian Government


– **Panelist 6** – Anna Osterling, Works for Article 19, a local-to-global freedom of expression organization


– **Panelist 11** – Wearing Asia-Pacific regional IGF hat, from Nepal (LDC)


**Additional speakers:**


None – all speakers mentioned in the transcript were included in the provided speakers names list.


Full session report

# WSIS+20 Interactive Stakeholder Consultation: Discussion Report


## Executive Summary


This interactive stakeholder consultation session for the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) 20-year review process brought together diverse participants including government representatives, civil society organizations, private sector entities, and technical community members. The session was facilitated by WSIS+20 co-facilitators Ambassador Suela Janina and Ambassador Ekitela Lokaale, alongside ECOSOC President, and included 40 remote participants joining virtually.


Gitanjali Sah opened the session emphasizing that WSIS has an “open format” and the interactive nature of the consultation. The discussion focused on procedural matters, participation challenges, and coordination with other UN processes, with co-facilitators demonstrating openness to stakeholder feedback throughout the consultation.


## Process Framework and Timeline


### Roadmap and Key Dates


Ambassador Janina announced the extension of the deadline for elements paper submissions to July 25th to accommodate stakeholder feedback and ensure broader participation. The zero draft preparation is scheduled for August, with co-facilitators committing to provide updated roadmap details by the end of July.


Ambassador Lokaale emphasized that the co-facilitators operate under delegated authority from the President of the General Assembly, with periodic meetings scheduled to update on progress and maintain alignment with UN priorities.


### Consultation Methodology


The co-facilitators outlined plans for hybrid consultation formats to address participation challenges, including accommodation of different time zones and virtual participation options. Ambassador Janina mentioned the potential use of artificial intelligence for discussion summaries.


The sounding board, comprising expert representatives from various stakeholder groups, was positioned as an important communication channel, though co-facilitators clarified that regional and thematic consultations through existing coalitions would be equally encouraged.


## Participation and Inclusivity Challenges


### Geographical and Structural Barriers


Multiple participants raised concerns about barriers to meaningful participation, particularly affecting Global South stakeholders. Anna Osterling from Article 19 highlighted how visa restrictions and travel costs create structural exclusions, noting these challenges extend beyond New York to other international meeting venues.


Ambassador Lokaale acknowledged these systemic barriers, stating: “It’s not just New York. I know New York now is much more difficult. We met groups in Norway who said many more people could not travel to the IGF because of the visa restrictions… So what does this mean? I think it’s a challenge for us to make these processes truly inclusive by finding ways of getting those who cannot travel to these capitals, to these venues, and I’m talking about people from Africa, people from most of the global south who are excluded by structural things that have nothing to do with WSIS or IGF or bad policies of governments.”


### Power Imbalances in Multi-stakeholderism


An Iranian representative highlighted how large technology companies possess significantly more resources and influence compared to small and medium-sized enterprises in developing countries, questioning the effectiveness of multi-stakeholderism at the international level. The representative also raised concerns about unilateral coercive measures (UCM) affecting digital development.


Ambassador Lokaale acknowledged these concerns, recognizing that “big tech, big private sector companies hold certain leverage because of resources and the capacities that are available to them compared to the smaller ones.”


### Proposed Solutions


Ellie McDonald from Global Partners Digital proposed leveraging existing coalitions and regional forums rather than creating new consultation mechanisms. The co-facilitators responded positively, with Ambassador Janina expressing openness to regional consultations and utilizing established networks.


## Methodological Approach and Scope


### Forward-Looking Versus Historical Perspectives


Chris Adamson from the UK Department of Science, Innovation, and Technology emphasized the need for a “future-focused, action-oriented” approach, arguing that limited time should not be spent on historic issues or previously agreed language.


Sébastien Bachelet from Internet Society France provided a counterpoint, noting that “life changed within these 20 years, and maybe there are some issues that need to be reopened… because, for example, the work done by NetMundial need to be taken into account.”


Ambassador Lokaale responded that “if, in the opinion of stakeholders, we need to revisit some of the discussions in order to bring them up to speed with the current or recent developments, as a matter of necessity, then we’ll have to do that,” while maintaining the principle of using agreed language from the Global Digital Compact and other consensual documents as starting points.


### Integration with Other UN Processes


Participants expressed concerns about fragmentation across different UN digital governance initiatives. Bruna Santos from Witness highlighted concerns about “mirroring debates across UNESCO, global panels, and GDC processes,” while Titi Casa from the Italian government suggested upgrading the Internet Governance Forum to monitor progress of WSIS Action Lines and Global Digital Compact objectives.


## Transparency and Accountability


### Documentation and Public Access


Multiple participants emphasized the importance of comprehensive transparency measures. Bruna Santos requested summaries of stakeholder consultations for accountability purposes, while Anna Osterling called for live streaming and detailed summaries of negotiations when full stakeholder participation is not possible.


Ambassador Janina committed to maintaining transparent documentation on the dedicated UNDESA webpage, including summaries of consultations and clear identification of areas of agreement and disagreement.


### Stakeholder Engagement During Negotiations


Wolfgang Kleinwächter raised questions about “how co-facilitators will cooperate with the President of the General Assembly to ensure stakeholder input impacts intergovernmental negotiations.” A suggestion was made to use the Cyber Crime Convention as a precedent for inclusive participation modalities.


## Substantive Issues and Priorities


### Vulnerable Groups and Corporate Accountability


Anna Osterling stressed the importance of including vulnerable groups and underserved communities, while Paloma Lara Castro from Derechos Digitales highlighted the need for corporate accountability mechanisms and application of UN guiding principles on business and human rights.


### Digital Literacy and Education


Dr. Lab Singh, participating online, contributed specific suggestions about “student-centric strategies for sustainable, resilient media literacy,” demonstrating the breadth of issues stakeholders consider relevant to the review process.


## Regional Engagement


### Asia-Pacific Perspectives


Representatives from the Asia-Pacific region expressed appreciation for efforts to accommodate regional participation. A representative from Nepal extended an invitation to participate in the Asia-Pacific regional IGF scheduled for October 11-14.


William Lee from the Australian Government and other regional representatives highlighted the importance of regional engagement and leveraging existing networks.


### Global Digital Rights Coalition


References were made to the Global Digital Rights Coalition and their letters containing process recommendations, indicating organized civil society input into the consultation process.


## Key Commitments and Next Steps


The co-facilitators committed to:


– Providing updated roadmap details by the end of July


– Beginning intensive work with the sounding board


– Preparing the zero draft during August following the extended deadline


– Maintaining transparency through comprehensive documentation on the UNDESA webpage


– Supporting hybrid consultation formats and regional consultations


– Periodic updates to the General Assembly President


## Conclusion


This consultation demonstrated both the opportunities and challenges of inclusive global digital governance. While participants showed agreement on the importance of transparent, inclusive processes, significant challenges remain around addressing structural barriers to participation and power imbalances within multi-stakeholder frameworks.


The co-facilitators’ openness to feedback and flexibility in addressing stakeholder concerns provides a foundation for the review process. The success of the WSIS+20 review will depend on translating these procedural commitments into meaningful participation opportunities and substantive outcomes that address both historical digital divide issues and emerging challenges in global digital governance.


Session transcript

Gitanjali Sah: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us for this session. And as you know that WSIS has always had a very open format, we had an interactive session with the GDC co-facilitators, and our WSIS plus 20 co-facilitators, Ambassadors Janina and Ambassador Lokaale were, of course, very open to this idea, and they were excited to be able to interact with all the stakeholder community present here. So this will really literally be an interaction between all stakeholders present in the room, so you can just raise your hand, and you can take the floor. We are helped by Konstantinos and Anita today, who will help us basically moderate this session. We are also joined by the President of ECOSOC, Mr. Robert Ray, so we are really privileged to have him here, because it is a UN process, and it will feed into the ECOSOC and the UNGA. So very, very quickly, those of you who are familiar or not familiar with the WSIS process, it’s a serious process. We have designed a preparatory process for the overall review. Everybody knows the Ambassadors by now, so they are here in front of us, in case those of you who haven’t met them. They have put together a roadmap, which you all have also seen, which they want to make sure leads to a very consultative process. So maybe I can first invite Ambassadors to say hello to everybody in the room. Ambassador Janina, over to you.


Suela Janina: Good afternoon to everyone. It’s a pleasure to be in this session of consultations, following the previous consultations we had in Paris a few weeks ago, and also at IGF in Oslo. It’s also a privilege to be together with our President of ECOSOC, dear Bob, and to share a common objective of this process of review of WSIS plus 20, which comes to a crucial moment for the Internet society would like to have for the next 20 years. It will be very important to emphasize that we are both together with my colleague, Ambassador Leo Kalle, very committed to have an open, transparent, and inclusive process. So for the time being, we’re very happy to hear from you. What are your perspectives, expectations from the overview process? We have also had some very useful inputs from Lillestrom. I’m not at this point trying to come over each of them, but they are really very important points on which we would like to build also today. So we encourage you to be active, participating in this process, which will continue for the next weeks. We have a roadmap, as you already mentioned, Gitanjali. We had also a call for inputs for the element paper that has been published a few days ago. We have also extended the deadline in order to accommodate many stakeholders and to really respect and uphold this multi-stakeholder model that WSIS inherits from its very start days of the beginning, and we hope to also enrich with this review process. So thank you very much for the discussions.


Ekitela Lokaale: Thank you. Thank you, Ambassador Janina. Ambassador Lokaale, please. Thank you very much, Gitanjali, and good afternoon, colleagues. First, I would like to thank you for having us. I’m very happy to have a colleague, Ambassador Ray, clearly seeing the three of us coming out of New York here for consultations, including the president of the ECOSOC, it’s clear testament that Geneva and New York are not that far, as sometimes we think to say, and particularly on an important agenda such as the one that we’re discussing. Second thing, we’ve benefited immensely from talking to many of you with whom we met at the IGF, and over the last couple of days, you know, the useful points which have come out of those interactions, for example, the future of the IGF, relationship between the WSIS Outcome Review and other related processes such as the GDC, you know, WSIS Outcome Review within the context of SDGs, place of emerging technologies, issues such as capacity building, particularly for countries of the Global South, financing mechanisms, whether or not we need to have targets for follow-up and measurement of progress, and so on. So these are some of the issues on which we’d like to hear, you know, your feedback this afternoon. So our role this afternoon is to listen to you, and we very much look forward to that, and yeah, to continue this conversation. Thank you. Thank you, Ambassador Lokaale, we really appreciate your patience and your kindness. Thank you, Ambassadors. So could we please also invite the Canadian Ambassador, who is the president of the ECOSOC, to say a few words, and then we will start our interaction.


Participant 1: Very few words indeed. I’m delighted to be here with my colleagues. I think they were surprised to see me as probably as you all are. I am a regular participant in events as president of ECOSOC in New York, but also in Geneva and in other capitals where the UN is active because of so many critical issues. I just wanted to say that although we have a lot of processes going on at the UN all the time, this question around the digital economy, digital society, the digital divide, are really critically important to all of us, and this, I think, is one more opportunity to see what more we can do and engage with all of you as member states and also as members of civil society. And I’m just very glad to be able to sit here and listen and not have to say anything more. So that’s an advantage. It’s important to listen.


Ekitela Lokaale:


Gitanjali Sah: Thank you very much. I’m going to take your notes and take the vision of this room to the ECOSOC in New York. Thank you very much. I’d like to hand over to our colleagues Konstantinos and Anita to continue the moderation with all the stakeholders present in the room. Over to you.


Konstantinos Komaitis: Thank you, Gitanjali. Hi, everyone. Thank you very much. Gitanjali, I don’t need to say anything. I believe that the ambassadors put a very good context of what this conversation is about. I’m very glad to see a full room, and we can start with questions, I mean, this is a – or comments about the process. So, please, over to you. This is – Yes. Thank you very much. I’m going to take your notes and take the vision of this room to the ECOSOC in New York. Thank you very much. I’d like to hand over to our colleagues Konstantinos and Anita to continue the moderation with all the stakeholders present in the room. Over to you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. So, please, over to you.


Panelist 1: Thank you for giving us the opportunity to meet with the co-facilitators of the World System Plus 20. This is Kusaya Al-Shati from Kuwait. Obviously, in the roadmap, I’m seeing many steps coming, and I just have some clarification – I would like to have some clarification about some of the steps. After August, obviously, there is an open consultation – there’s a consultation with the stakeholders that will be held virtually, and there is another consultation in November with the stakeholders and member states at the UN headquarter. And yet, in mid-October, there is a second preparatory meeting and stock-taking session at the UN headquarter. That’s in New York, if I am not mistaken. So talking about the process after the zero draft, which is in mid-October, and after the draft outcome in November, are these multi-stakeholder, or will it be purely governmental? Are we – and there will be a process to submit our input – that’s one. According to the high-level meeting and the General Assembly in December 16 to 17, will be the – as there will be, like what happened, the future summit, a side event for multi-stakeholder organizations. So we just wonder if we can – and there are some people who can be there at present in New York when it is the stock-taking sessions, whether mid-October or November, and 16th and 17th of December.


Konstantinos Komaitis: Can you also please tell us which organization you’re working for or you’re a fan?


Panelist 1: I’m a private sector.


Konstantinos Komaitis: That’s it. Okay. Do we have any other question or comment? Please, go ahead.


Panelist 2: Thank you very much. My name is Chris Adamson. I’m from the UK Department of Science, Innovation, and Technology. I’d first just like to say a huge thank you to the co-facilitators for being so open and transparent and available throughout this process so far. It’s really appreciated, it’s recognized by all as well. So, I’d like to start with that. Thank you. I do have one point I want to stress before I have a question. Time is quite short, of course. We all recognize that the window for these discussions is shorter than probably we would normally like to have. I would just like to say that this WSIS review does need to be as future-focused, action-oriented as possible to address the opportunities and challenges around digital development that we all face. I’d just like to stress the point that we should avoid as much as possible spending time discussing issues that are historic, language that’s been agreed in other texts and things like that. So, I just want the co-facilitators to take note of that and really emphasize that discussions that we have should be on future-focused agenda, rather than looking backwards. The question I do have is, when will the co-facilitators be releasing specific details on the dates and timings of the informal discussions and negotiations during the autumn? I think the key point here is this is essential for planning purposes, particularly for stakeholders in getting to New York as well as the global majority and making sure that they can be fully inclusive in this world. Early planning is usually something that is something that we would obviously like to prefer to have. So, thank you very much.


Konstantinos Komaitis: Thanks, Greg. We have another question and then we can go back to you, Chris, please.


Panelist 3: There we go. My name is Chris Buckridge. I’m a member of the IGF MAG for the technical community. And I’m very pleased also to be part of the sounding board that was announced this week. So, this is pre-empting a bit some of the discussions that I’m sure we will have, but I think in a sort of more public venue, I was just wanting to ask maybe a bit about your vision for that sounding board and how you see it contributing to developing the resolution and moving towards the WSIS review.


Suela Janina: Thank you very much for this very useful and direct questions. When it comes to the process, this is true that we need also to reflect with flexibility, but also with concrete dates that all stakeholders are prepared for their engagement, for future engagement. So, because we have heard some requests, we have extended the deadline for the WSIS review the deadline for inputs for the elements paper. It has been initially 15 of July. Now it’s 25 of July. And by the end of July, we’ll update also the next steps. We foresee that after we receive all inputs by the end of July to prepare the zero draft during the month of August. By the end of August, you’ll be possible that you have this zero draft and you’ll have a period of time that you can reflect on concrete language on what we are going to propose as the zero draft. Then we understand a little bit also the difficulties of traveling to New York. So, our aim is to put on this consultation also the hybrid element or to get use of the technology. We are speaking of technology. So, how we can make it more useful in terms of inclusion and participation. So, by the end of July, we’ll have very clear and more focused roadmap on exact dates that everyone that will be able to join us in New York can plan for the trip. Those that have not possibilities to come to New York to have this opportunity to connect online. So, the multistakeholder approach will be respected very rigorously throughout the process. The other question was about the sounding board. Congratulations for being a member and congratulations to everyone that has been selected by us as co-facilitators on some… We try to respect the criteria that we have put for fair representation based on regional representation, experience, but also gender. I mean, for us, it’s also important because if we speak also about digital divide, this is an element that we also have to reflect in the representation of the sounding board. But the sounding board, we have repeated that several times. It’s not the only channel of communication with us as co-facilitators because if we are committed to very open process, that is the invitation for everyone throughout this roadmap that we have presented, but in a very informal way to approach us, to send us your inputs, or just if you would like to have some more regional consultation, we are really very eager to follow and to participate in all the discussions that you may have asked us or just put to our attention that something has happened regionally, a kind of discussion on which the process can benefit. So, in that regard, we are very much open and would like to start working very closely and intensified way with the sounding board. So, bear with us. If we are not going to have summer vacations, sounding board, prepare not to have yourself some vacations during this period. We’ll start tomorrow. Let’s be transparent. We’ll have a meeting with all of you tomorrow and we’ll build jointly a plan of how to tackle all these upcoming weeks with just as someone mentioned, that seems to be some weeks, but needs to be intensive because really we are not the luxury of losing time and also reflecting the importance of the process and the high expectations that we are very much aware everyone is putting on this process.


Ekitela Lokaale: Thank you. Well, you didn’t forget much. Yeah, thank you, Chris, from the UK. I think there’s general agreement that we need to conduct the current review in a forward-looking manner and not to revisit some of the debates that we’ve had in the past, where those have been settled or where there is consensus or general agreement that they are not extremely useful anymore to have. So we’ll try as much as possible not to unnecessarily resurrect those debates. Second is, yeah, our understanding is that we will use the agreed language, including in the GDC and other consensual documents as a starting point and that we’ll not try to reinvent the wheel, so to speak. So unless concepts or ideas have not been agreed in a language, then we’ll not have a reason to give new meaning or come up with a new language, unless absolutely necessary. Thank you.


Anita Gurumurthy: Apologies for that, and thank you so much. We just wanted to suggest that if you would like to sit behind, maybe you could use those, but I mean, that’s not a guarantee of comfortable seating, but this is an overwhelming response. So we can take another set of questions, maybe a couple more, yeah. Yeah, Professor Wolfgang.


Panelist 4: Thank you very much. My name is Wolfgang Kleinwächter. I’m a retired professor, MUG member, and also now a member of the sounding board. You know, the modalities resolution gives the president of the General Assembly a special role in convening the stakeholder consultations in New York, and the president should collect input from these consultations. So my question is, how do, as co-facilitators, want to cooperate with the president of the General Assembly to guarantee that the input which is collected by the president has an impact into the intergovernmental negotiations? Thank you very much.


Anita Gurumurthy: Any other? Yeah.


Panelist 5: Thank you very much, Sébastien Bachelet, Internet Society France, and chair of EURALO, the end user within ICANN from Europe. I heard the discussion about not changing something who are already been agree upon, but life changed within these 20 years, and maybe there are some issues that need to be reopened, because, or open, I will say, because, for example, the work done by NetMundial need to be taken into account, and I am not sure that the wording made 20 years ago will be or could be the same. That’s what we need today. My second point, it’s… Please, please, don’t multiply the place where we need to discuss something or where the topic we need to discuss, because we can’t do that. We can’t afford to be everywhere in New York, in Geneva, and some other places in this world. And we spend a lot of time already just trying to find a way to allow the multistakeholder and particularly end-user and civil society to be present and not ask us to be split into ten or twenty places different. Thank you very much.


Anita Gurumurthy: Thank you. Okay, thank you.


Ekitela Lokaale: Professor, indeed, the Modalities Resolution says that the President of the General Assembly will facilitate consultations. Actually, the two of us are acting under delegated authority from the President of the General Assembly. So what we are doing here is on behalf of and with the authority of the President. There are no parallel consultations that the PGA is conducting. These are the consultations, okay? And if it will give you comfort, we periodically have meetings with the PGA to update the President of the General Assembly on the progress of the process. So we do this every couple of weeks, and it’s something that we’ve built into our own program of work. Sorry, I missed your name, because we are consulting here a little bit. Like we said, where there is no need to reopen, then we will not reopen the language. But if, in the opinion of stakeholders, we need to revisit some of the discussions in order to bring them up to speed with the current or recent developments, as a matter of necessity, then we’ll have to do that. We’re not saying no to everything, including, for example, to just give an example, and I don’t want to open the debate at this stage on the action lines. That’s one of the things people are saying. There are those who say action lines are good enough. There are others who say let’s update them. So that’s a discussion we’re going to have and then come to some form of agreement. On the forums, the reason why we’ve placed them openly is for colleagues to know, those who are able to plan to be in New York can then have time and space to plan to be there. But for stakeholders, we are trying to make them virtual, because then in that way, many people are able to participate remotely. And then we’ve also tried to, in putting the time slots, take cognizance of the different time zones. And this is something we did, for example, during the informal consultations on the 9th and 10th of June. We had one consultation late into the night for us in New York in order to make time, I think, for the Pacific or one of the regions. And then the other day, we had it quite early to take care of the other side of the globe. So that’s how we are trying to accommodate. Thank you.


Suela Janina: Thank you, but there is not much to be added on both points that my colleague already explained very well. But just to add the point of the full support that we have also from the Office of the President of the General Assembly. We have met with him and we have had really meaningful discussion on the topic and also continuously coordinating on the process. So there is full alignment in everything we are doing. And we are also fortunate to have the support of the Secretariat of UNDESA and other agencies. If I may just recall something that Gitanjali said to me from the start, that there is a WSIS community. And this is really very much helpful, because we see everyone very much engaged to give ideas, proposals. This leads me to the second point of the request not to multiply also initiatives, also forums. And here we come to a very specific part of our consultation and negotiations that we really need concrete ideas and what really works for you. What is effective? What is something that during these 20 years has functioned well and we need to preserve, to protect and to enrich? And what is something that really needs to be addressed in a way of improving it? And if we start on this kind of approach, there are a lot of elements to discuss here. If you are discussing, for example, for WSIS architecture, how we can improve IGF or how to better connect IGF with WSIS forum. These are some of the questions or the elements that we have heard very often. But we’ll really, if we want to have a deep dive on that, we really need this kind of concrete inputs from you, from the community. What are really the instruments that have proved to be successful on which we can build upon this new architecture or improved architecture of WSIS that we would like to have for the next 20 years?


Konstantinos Komaitis: Thank you, Ambassador. Oh, excellent. Three hands. Bruna? Sorry. Let’s start with Bruna. Please.


Bruna Santos: Thanks for making me the favorite. Thank you, Ambassadors, for the conversation and for the openness as well. My name is Bruna Santos, I work at Witness, a human rights organization based in New York that works on AI. So my question is going to be about that part. I do appreciate the acknowledgments about the set so-called power imbalances on AI governance discussions and the need for fostering new technologies on that. But we do have seen, we have indeed seen some level of fragmentation or mirroring of the debates on AI governance from, you know, from UN agencies, UNESCO, the creation of the global panel and the scientific, the global fund, the scientific panel and everything that emerged from the GDC. So my question to you guys is whether there is a clear idea already on how you’re going to integrate all of those debates or promote a bit more of alignment between what’s going on in the different agencies. And if I may just make a point about the consultations, I think the main point that was missing from the GDC consultations was a bit more time for stakeholders to be heard because at some point they would just be cut off. And I don’t want to suggest any more work to you guys by no means, but if you could work on perhaps summaries of how the stakeholder consultations went, I think it would be a great point on accountability and transparency for the whole process. So thanks.


Konstantinos Komaitis: Thank you, Bruna. Thank you, Bruna. Let’s take the other two. Thank you. Anna, please go ahead.


Panelist 6: Thank you so much. My name is Anna Osterling and I work for Article 19, a local-to-global freedom of expression organization. And I had the wonderful opportunity to speak to both ambassadors multiple times in Dillström, so I’ll keep this very brief because I’ve given you my substantive inputs. There’s just one substantive point and one procedural point I’d like to make. In terms of substance, one thing that I would really like to emphasize is the need for inclusion in terms of what will go into to make sure that the WSIS framework really results in an inclusive information society, just to make sure that we include all vulnerable groups, communities, hard-to-reach, underserved, far-away communities, migrants, refugees, and so forth. So that’s just one point I would like to reiterate, to be as inclusive as we can. In terms of the process, we are also a member of the Global Digital Rights Coalition on WSIS, and I know you’ve seen our letters with process recommendations. I’m just looking at the roadmap, and since you’re suggesting you will update it, if I might just question or maybe make a suggestion. In terms of, I’m really happy to see the consultations that you are planning with stakeholders. If they are in New York, then I can tell you that for a lot of stakeholders, especially from civil society, especially from global majority, but equally from Global North, it will be very, very difficult to come to New York in these current circumstances, both due to funding restrictions, but also concerns around visa and immigration. And this is an extreme concern for everyone in the community. So just to make sure that if you’re doing it in New York, we probably won’t be able to attend. So it’s great that you’re doing it virtually. I would love to, though, make sure that the consultations are joined, because it is great to be there and to talk, but we want member states to hear us. We want them to hear what we have to say. So it would be really important for all stakeholders, civil society, technical community, academia, private sector, and the member states to talk together. And then the other question I would have in terms of procedure, it’s wonderful to have these consultations and it’s wonderful that you’re so open, but once member states go into negotiations and the intergovernmental process happens, please still consider the input from stakeholders and make them as open as possible. There is obviously the maximalist solution, like at the Human Rights Council, where actually stakeholders are in the room and able to take the floor, which I’m happy to suggest. I know New York is not Geneva, but why not? But if not, then at least live stream on UN Web TV, offer summaries afterwards, something so we can stay in touch with what’s happening and remain included in the process. So it would be wonderful if you could reflect some of that in your roadmap. Thank you.


Konstantinos Komaitis: Thank you, Anna. Please go ahead, introduce yourself as well.


Panelist 7: Thank you. My name is Titi Casa. I work for Italian government. So I want to share just general consideration, because I think that the WSIS, the Global Digital Compact, also the IGF, are important initiatives, and each of them has significant strengths but also some weakness. And the enhancing cooperation among these initiatives could help to reinforce each one’s strengths and address their respective gaps. And so I think the key word here is the cooperation, the cooperation among all these three initiatives that could help to drive the implementation of the WSIS vision and the achievement also of the GDC objectives. The WSIS is an important and robust framework that has played an important and critical role in all this year-in-advance digital transformation across all UN member states. But at the same time, even if every year there is an important assessment that is conducted to monitor progress, despite all these efforts, it’s quite challenging to capture the comprehensive snapshot of the implementation of the WSIS Action Line at national, regional, and global level. At the same time also, I mean, the Global Digital Compact is making an important effort to try to implement this dashboard to collect inputs and to understand the status of the five objectives. Also there are some things that are in common. So I think that in all this process to monitor and to progress the status of the Action Line and also to achieve the GDC objectives, an important role could be played by the IGF. So I think the IGF should remain a platform, a debate platform, but it should be upgraded in order to have also the important role to monitor the progress of the Action Line. Because the IGF is an important network that includes 177 NRIs, but also several dynamic coalitions, all the intersessional activities. So they could contribute to understand what progress has been made on the Action Line, but also on the GDC. So I think in this context, this should be considered, I mean, in the evolution of the IGF and the evolution of the WSIS framework. Thank you.


Konstantinos Komaitis: Thank you so much. Any reflections, Ambassadors?


Suela Janina: The first general reflection, thank you very much for all the points. And the first general reflection would be that all these points are very carefully taken note. Because I suppose that everyone understands that at this point, when still the consultation is open, we are still waiting for inputs. We cannot take, let’s say, side in terms of trying to understand from this very point which is the most favorable one. So the richness of the process and the effectiveness is that we hear as many. Many of the ideas that you are putting converge. We have heard them in IGF. We are hearing it. And it’s not that it’s bad repetition. In this way, it’s positive. Because it emphasizes really what are the expectations that you have. And all these elements are crucial. Inclusivity. We have discussed it. You pointed out very strongly the fact that there are constraints for participating in the consultation and negotiation process. That’s why we have been flexible also to accommodate different time zones. We’ll do it in the future as well. Also including the fact of hybrid formats or online participation. If you have any other concrete idea or how to use the new technologies. We have had also ideas of how to use AI in terms also of summaries of discussions. When it comes to the point of the discussion summaries raised by Bruna as well. We have already started to do that. I don’t know if you have had the chance. DESA has set up a specific dedicated webpage on which every activity that we are doing is being reflected. And this has started also with the summary of the consultation with member states. The summary of consultation with stakeholders during the two days. It has also a reflection of main takeouts that we have had from IGF. It will continue with this forum. All your inputs will be transparently put to the webpage. So it will continue like that and we hope that you will support us also in this kind of engagement that is based on the transparent way that we would like to conduct the negotiation and the consultation process. Another point that you, Bruna, raised and is very important in the discussion we are doing is how to link and how to find this kind of synergies and alignment with the process that are taking place already at the UN. Sometimes we need also to agree on something that we are not able to stop the processes that have already started. What we need to do is to find the synergies between them and to align them under an umbrella that covers everything but also having in mind that we have existing mechanism in place that we can use and just to try to be also very much aware on the process that we are going and the president of ECOSOC can also support the idea that we are hearing more and more and more engaged on the initiative UN80. So anyone is not feeling the appetite to have new instruments or to put more money on the scarce resources that we have. The role of IGF is also linked with the point that the delegate from Italy made and the fact that we need also to put the products that we have at the national level and their eyes are very important at the regional level and also how to use the same discussion, GDC aligned with WSIS and use the same instruments that we can find to be effective and helpful in both processes.


Ekitela Lokaale: Thank you Ambassador. Nothing much to add except I think on the issue of inclusion, particularly these constraints that geographical locations of consultations have on participation. It’s not just New York. I know New York now is much more difficult. We met groups in Norway who said many more people could not travel to the IGF because of the visa restrictions. They couldn’t get the Schengen visa. I’m sure there are many more people who would have wanted to be in this room here in Geneva but are not able to come because they can’t get the visa. So what does this mean? I think it’s a challenge for us to make these processes truly inclusive by finding ways of getting those who cannot travel to these capitals, to these venues, and I’m talking about people from Africa, people from most of the global south who are excluded by structural things that have nothing to do with WSIS or IGF or bad policies of governments and so on. So that’s a challenge on all of us. But also secondly, if we were to migrate to virtual consultations, very good, it’s inclusive in that sense for those who are able to log in, you know, still. So there are different levels of exclusion which thankfully forms the subject matter of WSIS, right, to bridge the digital divide and so on and so forth. But on the specifics, I’m not competent enough to really say because we can migrate it from New York and then bring it to Geneva perhaps, well, maybe more inclusive, but then that those who will have, still find Geneva inaccessible because they can’t get the Schengen visa, you know. So what do we do? But there’s been a very interesting suggestion around strengthening the IGF, people saying, you know, strengthen the regional IGFs, strengthen the national IGFs so that more and more of these conversations can take place at levels where people would ordinarily find themselves. And then, you know, even the expense of the cost of hosting an IGF, for instance, make it affordable for countries of the global south. host so that it’s not prohibitive and so on and so forth. So I guess that’s what I would say but the rest of the comments are welcome. We’ve taken very good note of them and we will process them together with others that will come through in the next couple of weeks. Thank you. Well that’s all I have to say at this point. I think I don’t know whether we’ve left out any but we can always.


Gitanjali Sah: Thank you Ambassadors. We’d like to inform the room that there is remote participation and around 40 of our participants are joining remotely. If they would like to take the floor they can raise their hand and the remote participation moderator will tell us. Thank you very much.


Anita Gurumurthy: For another point of information I think we have just about 17 minutes left at this point and unless we can go over the hour is it possible that I wouldn’t know? Sorry. Yes but there are others in the queue I would certainly was that all right. So let’s start here and then the delegate there and Paloma and yourself. Thank you.


Panelist 8: Thank you so much. My name is Ellie McDonald and I’m speaking on behalf of Global Partners Digital. We’re also a member of the Global Digital Rights Coalition that my colleague Anna mentioned earlier. I really appreciate this opportunity to speak as well as all of the comments you’ve just made Ambassadors about the measures you’re taking to ensure an inclusive process. I can be quite brief but I just had two follow-ups. I wanted to ask particularly about the consolidation of the inputs received and to make a suggestion that if it would be possible to make visible the areas where there are agreement as well as those where there is not yet agreement. That could be really helpful for our community to be able to target the interventions that we wish to make most effectively to inform your work. The second point is that we really welcome the creation of the Sounding Board and it’s a really useful measure and you have some really excellent experts on board. I also really appreciate the acknowledgement you made earlier that this will not be the only channel to engage the stakeholder community. I wanted to ask what measures you have in mind beyond the October consultation to engage the broader set of stakeholders and if you don’t mind to make a suggestion that you make use of some of the coalitions and forums that we already have. I already mentioned the Global Digital Rights Coalition. I know there are a number of stakeholder coalitions represented here today. Also regional forums and spaces and perhaps an approach that leverages them as well as providing space for thematic and regional consultation could be really helpful.


Anita Gurumurthy: Thanks for the time to speak. There is a participant online, Dr. Lab Singh. So I call on Dr. Singh to please take the floor and if you could kindly keep your comments to about two minutes. Thank you.


Online participant: Yes, thank you. Thank you so much. Actually, my name is Dr. Lab Singh and I’m basically a vice reporter on the study group about digital skill framework, you know. I have put in something like 35 years in IT and telecom sector in India. So I have been going through, I mean from last two days I’m attending the proceeding. My points are already in the chat box. Will it be possible to just read it out and then get the, you know, response from that? Could you just see that?


Anita Gurumurthy: We’ll try to convey that to the ambassadors. Meanwhile, we will move on to the next delegate. There’s Paloma and then there’s Willem. Thank you so much.


Panelist 9: Thank you. Thank you, all facilitators and ambassadors. Actually, something I have, I want to raise, I mean, three points. The first is about multi-stakeholderism. When we talk about multi-stakeholderism in national level, it is a, I mean, a good approach to, I mean, to let all stakeholders give opinion about different issues that are related to digital and AI or, I mean, internet affairs. But when we are talking at the international level, stakeholders, especially big, I mean, tech companies, they are not in the same, I mean, position. Some of them are very strengths. They are powerful and, I mean, they can have dominant role in the digital area. And so, regarding this, I mean, issue, I believe that it is very important that in review of VCs, we address this kind of, I mean, this kind of things, because small and medium-sized companies in developing countries cannot, I mean, have equal participation in the international area. Another point is about the UCM, because the unilateral coercive measures is, I mean, this kind of measures are very important and big assets for having inclusive and development-oriented information societies. And some developing countries are suffering these issues. Then my last point is about digital divide. In some, let’s say, paragraphs of documents of VCs in 2003 and 2005, especially paragraph like 61 and 66, are directly on digital divide. As we see, the digital divide, I mean, haven’t, I mean, digital divide exists, and there is a need to focus on this problem in VCs review. Very, I mean, especially we should pay attention to this problem. Thank you.


Anita Gurumurthy: Thank you very much. I just wanted to read out what Mr. Singh wanted to contribute. It is just a suggestion to have student-centric strategies for sustainable, resilient media literacy. So he is keen to input that. I request Paloma and others to keep your input to as short as possible, so that we have a chance to hear from the ambassadors.


Paloma Lara Castro: Hi, thank you. I’m Paloma Lara Castro, representing Derechos Digitales, and also part of the Global Digital Justice Forum in the WSIS Coalition. I’m going to be very brief, because I know I’ve spoken a lot of times, so two points. One substantive point has to do with the need to address corporate accountability, especially the need to make sure that the UN guiding principles on business and human rights are applied and are actually being effective within this process, especially considering how strategic is logistics and corporate massive extraction is being affected specifically on Global South. So this is a problem that needs to be addressed. And then on the second point, just to process, you asked on how other processes could serve as a basis or as an example of more inclusive participation, and I think that we can point to the Cyber Crime Convention, that although it needs a lot of improvement, it’s not perfect at all, but still it gave us a chance to be in the same room while states were negotiating, and we could see not only the proposals, but the track of changes. So that made it more possible for us to engage more directly and to have more participation and to be aware of what the discussions were, and at least point to know where the discussions were in the agreement and disagreements. So I think that that could also serve as a precedent for future implementation in this process. Thank you.


Panelist 10: Thank you, Ambassadors, for being here, and thank you for giving me the floor. My name is William Lee from the Australian Government. I firstly just wanted to thank you on the way that the process has been run. I think it has been an excellent process so far, and your commitment to even simply spending three weeks in Europe, having conversations with stakeholders, I think has been well noted. The other thing I would note as a country from the Asia-Pacific, your recognition of the challenge of time zones has been strongly heard in our region, and we have certainly heard feedback from our stakeholders that your recognition of that has been really appreciated. I wanted to touch on the question of how we as UN member states can support you in terms of the process going forward. I think it is a true service that you are both doing to the WSIS community to lead this review, both on behalf of the community but also on behalf of all members of the UN General Assembly. And I suppose my question is simply how can we as member states, as governments across the world help support you in the process that lies ahead. Thank you very much.


Anita Gurumurthy: We have our last participant.


Panelist 11: Thank you so much. I will not repeat most of the points William said, many things which I wanted to say. And I would be wearing my Asia-Pacific regional IGF hat at this point. Thank you for recognizing and acknowledging that having regional discussions or at national levels would help. In that context, I would like to invite the co-facilitators to the Asia-Pacific regional IGF, which would be from 11th to 14th in October. There would be a lot of maturity in the discussions. Please come and hear the voices of Asia-Pacific. Nepal is an LDC, so we would have an amalgamation of all kinds of APAC voices. So please do come. Thank you.


Ekitela Lokaale: All right. Thank you. First, again, let me thank all of you for the very useful comments. A lot of them will definitely go a long way in helping us to clarify this. The first comment that I would make is I would encourage all of us, including those following online, to just visit the UNDESA page and see, for example, what we’ve done with the summaries on the IGF consultations. So there you’ll see under each of the issues, areas where – and I’m trying to respond to the colleague who spoke first – areas where there seems to be some general agreement on what needs to be done. So we intend to keep it that way as much as possible, and to the extent that the rules and procedures and so on, as we all understand, will permit. But it’s our intention to be as transparent as we possibly can. Dr. Singh, I think your suggestion to have student-centric strategies is well noted. In one of the virtual consultations, there was a young person – actually, it was a teen – who said that teenagers need to be recognized as one of the stakeholders. So comments such as those actually enrich the discussion and broaden the horizons of some of these concepts. So that point is well noted. Multistakeholderism – sorry, I didn’t get the name of the colleague. We know that big tech, big private sector companies hold certain leverage because of resources and the capacities that are available to them compared to the smaller ones. I think that’s a point that we are aware of. UCM – this point has been raised in the past – from Iran, thank you. This point has been raised by a number of member states. We’ve taken note of it, and we’ll find how to address it in the document. Thank you, William, for that encouragement. How you can support us as member states, I think, is for us to have constructive conversations because the WSIS vision, the WSIS discussion, is in the interest of all of us, all stakeholders, all member states. So whatever we can do to make the negotiations as less difficult as possible, even where we don’t agree, we find a way of bridging those divides. And if Ambassador Yanina and I can co-facilitate a process that leads to a consensual outcome, I think that would be a big achievement. As you know, that is becoming increasingly difficult of late, but we hope that with the support of all of you and member states, we’ll be able to achieve that. Asia Pacific, thank you again for the very kind invitation. We’ve made ourselves available to participate as much as we can. But you know, as ambassadors in New York, we handle everything, you know, from nuclear and proliferation to peace and security to all this, but we take this task very seriously. Where we’re able to physically come, we’ll happily do so. But if because of exigencies of work, we’re not able to, we’ll try to participate remotely. But again, thank you for inviting us to your beautiful region. I’ll be particularly happy to come if I’m able to. Thank you.


Suela Janina: Thank you, Ambassador. I think it’s, on the short time that we have at the disposal, it’s not very easy to touch on everything. But rest assured that everything is being taken note, and it will also be combined with the written inputs that you have been invited to address to us, and also will be of relevance for the future discussions that we’ll have. So I don’t think it will take a lot of time to go one by one. You, Ambassador, mentioned many of them. But an element that has been raised often is this kind of sometimes misunderstanding on the concept of multi-stakeholderism at the national level and vis-a-vis the international level. So there is no doubt on the international level, sometimes we have been said that governments understand it in a different way in the national level, not giving the full kind of cooperation and space that is needed. So let’s understand a little bit more on that if there is really some examples or a way how to foster also this element of multi-stakeholderism at the national level. And of course the fact that MS, MS have different position to participate, so we know this kind of constraints and how to make small and medium enterprises to be more involved, it’s also another challenge. And I wanted also to conclude with the question, very pertinent question made by the colleague of Australia, how you can help us member states. But I would put it in more broader terms of how we can help each other in this process, because I believe that the major mindset we should have is that let’s take ownership of the process all together. Sometimes we have this use of words within our roles and responsibilities, but really it’s important that each of us can be also a little bit open-minded, because we know that sometimes we are seen like different islands focusing on our particular interests. So more concretely, if there is this request from stakeholders to have this joint kind of consultations, you as member states can have a say on it, because sometimes we are not on the same line of thinking with everyone. So if you really would like or are able to support some initiatives coming from stakeholders, that would be very great and good message that we really are aiming to the same objective and we are putting the same efforts to it. So I mean, that is the thing that I would like to conclude. Let’s keep alive the spirit of OASIS and let’s enrich it to make it fit for the future. Thank you.


Konstantinos Komaitis: Ambassador Janina, Ambassador Lokaale, thank you so very much for being here, for listening, for participating, and thank you all very, very much for also asking all the questions. And I believe that Gitanjali, would you like to say? Okay. So thank you all very much and have a good evening.


P

Panelist 1

Speech speed

116 words per minute

Speech length

236 words

Speech time

121 seconds

Need for clarity on consultation dates and formats after August

Explanation

The speaker requested clarification about the consultation process timeline, specifically asking whether the preparatory meetings and stock-taking sessions would be multi-stakeholder or purely governmental. They also inquired about the possibility of side events for multi-stakeholder organizations during the high-level meeting in December.


Evidence

Referenced specific dates from the roadmap including mid-October preparatory meeting, November consultation, and December 16-17 General Assembly meeting


Major discussion point

WSIS Plus 20 Review Process and Timeline


Topics

Legal and regulatory


P

Panelist 2

Speech speed

180 words per minute

Speech length

284 words

Speech time

94 seconds

Request for early planning details for autumn negotiations

Explanation

The speaker emphasized the need for specific details on dates and timings of informal discussions and negotiations during autumn for planning purposes. They stressed that early planning is essential for stakeholders, especially those from the global majority, to ensure full inclusion in the process.


Evidence

Mentioned the importance for planning purposes, particularly for stakeholders getting to New York and ensuring global majority participation


Major discussion point

WSIS Plus 20 Review Process and Timeline


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Emphasis on forward-looking, action-oriented discussions

Explanation

The speaker argued that the WSIS review should be future-focused and action-oriented to address digital development opportunities and challenges. They emphasized avoiding discussions of historic issues and language already agreed in other texts to make the most of the limited time available.


Evidence

Noted that time is quite short and the window for discussions is shorter than normally preferred


Major discussion point

Future-focused Approach and Avoiding Historical Debates


Topics

Development


Agreed with

– Panelist 5
– Ekitela Lokaale

Agreed on

Importance of forward-looking approach while being selective about reopening settled issues


Avoiding revisiting settled debates from the past

Explanation

The speaker stressed the importance of not spending time on historical issues or language that has already been agreed upon in other texts. They wanted the co-facilitators to focus discussions on future-oriented agenda items rather than looking backwards.


Evidence

Mentioned avoiding historic language that’s been agreed in other texts


Major discussion point

Future-focused Approach and Avoiding Historical Debates


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Disagreed with

– Panelist 5

Disagreed on

Whether to reopen settled language and agreements from previous WSIS processes


P

Panelist 3

Speech speed

170 words per minute

Speech length

94 words

Speech time

33 seconds

Question about vision for sounding board contribution to resolution development

Explanation

The speaker, who is a member of both the IGF MAG and the newly announced sounding board, asked about the co-facilitators’ vision for how the sounding board would contribute to developing the resolution and moving towards the WSIS review. They wanted to understand the role and expectations for this advisory body.


Evidence

Identified as IGF MAG member for technical community and member of the sounding board announced that week


Major discussion point

Sounding Board Role and Function


Topics

Legal and regulatory


P

Panelist 4

Speech speed

136 words per minute

Speech length

96 words

Speech time

42 seconds

Coordination with President of General Assembly under delegated authority

Explanation

The speaker questioned how the co-facilitators would cooperate with the President of the General Assembly to ensure that input collected from stakeholder consultations would have an impact on intergovernmental negotiations. They were concerned about the coordination mechanism between different UN bodies in the process.


Evidence

Referenced the modalities resolution giving the President of General Assembly a special role in convening stakeholder consultations


Major discussion point

WSIS Plus 20 Review Process and Timeline


Topics

Legal and regulatory


P

Panelist 5

Speech speed

141 words per minute

Speech length

187 words

Speech time

79 seconds

Recognition that some issues may need reopening due to technological changes

Explanation

The speaker argued that while avoiding reopening settled agreements is important, life has changed significantly in 20 years and some issues may need to be reopened or opened for the first time. They specifically mentioned that work done by NetMundial needs to be taken into account and that wording from 20 years ago may not be suitable for today’s needs.


Evidence

Referenced NetMundial work and noted that wording made 20 years ago may not be appropriate for current needs


Major discussion point

Future-focused Approach and Avoiding Historical Debates


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Panelist 2
– Ekitela Lokaale

Agreed on

Importance of forward-looking approach while being selective about reopening settled issues


Disagreed with

– Panelist 2

Disagreed on

Whether to reopen settled language and agreements from previous WSIS processes


Request to avoid multiplying discussion venues and forums

Explanation

The speaker emphasized the practical constraint that stakeholders cannot afford to be present in multiple locations simultaneously. They requested that the co-facilitators not ask participants to split their presence across ten or twenty different places for discussions, as this creates an impossible burden for multi-stakeholder participation.


Evidence

Mentioned the inability to be everywhere in New York, Geneva, and other places simultaneously


Major discussion point

Technical and Procedural Improvements


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Panelist 6
– Ekitela Lokaale

Agreed on

Challenges of geographical accessibility and visa restrictions


P

Panelist 6

Speech speed

170 words per minute

Speech length

504 words

Speech time

177 seconds

Concerns about visa restrictions and travel costs limiting participation

Explanation

The speaker highlighted that holding consultations in New York would be very difficult for many stakeholders, especially from civil society and the global majority, due to funding restrictions and concerns around visa and immigration issues. They emphasized this as an extreme concern for the entire community that could significantly limit participation.


Evidence

Mentioned funding restrictions and visa/immigration concerns as barriers to New York participation


Major discussion point

Multi-stakeholder Participation and Inclusivity


Topics

Development


Agreed with

– Ekitela Lokaale
– Panelist 5

Agreed on

Challenges of geographical accessibility and visa restrictions


Need for joint consultations between stakeholders and member states

Explanation

The speaker emphasized the importance of having consultations where all stakeholders (civil society, technical community, academia, private sector) can talk together with member states. They argued that while virtual consultations are good, it’s important that member states hear what stakeholders have to say in joint sessions.


Major discussion point

Multi-stakeholder Participation and Inclusivity


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Suela Janina
– Ekitela Lokaale
– Panelist 8

Agreed on

Need for inclusive and transparent multi-stakeholder process


Request for live streaming and summaries of negotiations

Explanation

The speaker requested that once member states enter negotiations and the intergovernmental process begins, stakeholder input should still be considered and the process should remain as open as possible. They suggested live streaming on UN Web TV and providing summaries afterwards to keep stakeholders informed and included.


Evidence

Referenced the Human Rights Council as a maximalist solution where stakeholders are in the room and able to take the floor


Major discussion point

Transparency and Documentation


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Bruna Santos
– Panelist 8
– Suela Janina

Agreed on

Need for transparency and documentation throughout the process


Need for inclusion of vulnerable groups and underserved communities

Explanation

The speaker emphasized the importance of ensuring that the WSIS framework results in an inclusive information society by including all vulnerable groups and communities. They specifically mentioned hard-to-reach, underserved, far-away communities, migrants, and refugees as groups that need to be considered in the framework.


Evidence

Listed specific vulnerable groups: hard-to-reach, underserved, far-away communities, migrants, refugees


Major discussion point

Substantive Issues for Review


Topics

Human rights | Development


P

Panelist 7

Speech speed

128 words per minute

Speech length

354 words

Speech time

165 seconds

Need for alignment between WSIS, GDC, and IGF initiatives

Explanation

The speaker argued that WSIS, Global Digital Compact, and IGF are important initiatives with significant strengths but also weaknesses. They emphasized that enhancing cooperation among these initiatives could help reinforce each one’s strengths and address their respective gaps, with cooperation being the key word.


Major discussion point

Integration with Other UN Processes


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Suggestion for IGF to play monitoring role for Action Lines progress

Explanation

The speaker proposed that IGF should remain a debate platform but be upgraded to have an important role in monitoring the progress of Action Lines. They argued that IGF’s network of 177 NRIs, dynamic coalitions, and intersessional activities could contribute to understanding progress on both Action Lines and GDC objectives.


Evidence

Mentioned IGF’s network includes 177 NRIs, several dynamic coalitions, and intersessional activities


Major discussion point

Integration with Other UN Processes


Topics

Legal and regulatory


P

Panelist 8

Speech speed

153 words per minute

Speech length

283 words

Speech time

110 seconds

Suggestion to make visible areas of agreement and disagreement

Explanation

The speaker requested that when consolidating inputs received, it would be helpful to make visible both areas where there is agreement and those where there is not yet agreement. They argued this would help the stakeholder community target their interventions most effectively to inform the co-facilitators’ work.


Major discussion point

Transparency and Documentation


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Bruna Santos
– Panelist 6
– Suela Janina

Agreed on

Need for transparency and documentation throughout the process


Appreciation for excellent experts on the sounding board

Explanation

The speaker welcomed the creation of the Sounding Board as a useful measure and appreciated that it includes excellent experts. They also appreciated the acknowledgment that this would not be the only channel to engage the stakeholder community.


Major discussion point

Sounding Board Role and Function


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Encouragement for leveraging existing coalitions and regional forums

Explanation

The speaker asked about measures beyond the October consultation to engage broader stakeholders and suggested making use of existing coalitions and forums. They specifically mentioned the Global Digital Rights Coalition and other stakeholder coalitions, proposing an approach that leverages them along with thematic and regional consultations.


Evidence

Mentioned Global Digital Rights Coalition and other stakeholder coalitions represented at the meeting


Major discussion point

Regional Engagement and Support


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Suela Janina
– Ekitela Lokaale
– Panelist 6

Agreed on

Need for inclusive and transparent multi-stakeholder process


P

Panelist 9

Speech speed

75 words per minute

Speech length

270 words

Speech time

215 seconds

Power imbalances between large tech companies and smaller entities in multi-stakeholderism

Explanation

The speaker highlighted that while multi-stakeholderism works well at the national level, at the international level there are significant power imbalances. They argued that big tech companies have dominant roles and are very powerful, while small and medium-sized companies in developing countries cannot have equal participation in the international arena.


Major discussion point

Multi-stakeholder Participation and Inclusivity


Topics

Economic | Development


Disagreed with

– Suela Janina

Disagreed on

Approach to multi-stakeholderism at international vs national levels


Impact of unilateral coercive measures on developing countries

Explanation

The speaker emphasized that unilateral coercive measures are very important obstacles to having inclusive and development-oriented information societies. They noted that some developing countries are suffering from these measures, which hinder their participation in digital development.


Major discussion point

Substantive Issues for Review


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory


Focus on digital divide issues from original WSIS paragraphs

Explanation

The speaker pointed to specific paragraphs from the original WSIS documents (paragraphs 61 and 66) that directly address the digital divide. They argued that the digital divide still exists and there is a need to focus on this problem in the WSIS review, emphasizing the continued relevance of these original concerns.


Evidence

Referenced specific paragraphs 61 and 66 from WSIS 2003 and 2005 documents


Major discussion point

Substantive Issues for Review


Topics

Development | Digital access


P

Panelist 10

Speech speed

154 words per minute

Speech length

208 words

Speech time

80 seconds

Appreciation for recognition of Asia-Pacific time zone challenges

Explanation

The speaker noted that as a country from the Asia-Pacific region, they have strongly heard and appreciated the co-facilitators’ recognition of time zone challenges. They mentioned that stakeholders in their region have provided positive feedback about this accommodation in the consultation process.


Evidence

Mentioned feedback from regional stakeholders appreciating time zone recognition


Major discussion point

Regional Engagement and Support


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Request for member state support in constructive negotiations

Explanation

The speaker asked how UN member states can support the co-facilitators in the process going forward. They emphasized that the co-facilitators are providing a true service to both the WSIS community and all UN General Assembly members, and wanted to know how governments worldwide can help support the upcoming process.


Major discussion point

Regional Engagement and Support


Topics

Legal and regulatory


P

Panelist 11

Speech speed

157 words per minute

Speech length

114 words

Speech time

43 seconds

Invitation to participate in Asia-Pacific regional IGF in Nepal

Explanation

The speaker, representing the Asia-Pacific regional IGF, invited the co-facilitators to participate in their upcoming meeting from October 11-14. They emphasized that Nepal as an LDC would provide an amalgamation of all kinds of Asia-Pacific voices, offering mature discussions that would be valuable for the co-facilitators to hear.


Evidence

Mentioned Nepal as an LDC providing diverse APAC representation and mature discussions


Major discussion point

Regional Engagement and Support


Topics

Development


B

Bruna Santos

Speech speed

162 words per minute

Speech length

252 words

Speech time

92 seconds

Concerns about fragmentation across UN agencies on AI governance

Explanation

The speaker noted fragmentation and mirroring of AI governance debates across various UN agencies including UNESCO, the global panel, scientific panel, and processes emerging from the GDC. They questioned whether there was a clear idea on how to integrate all these debates and promote better alignment between different agencies working on AI governance.


Evidence

Listed specific UN agencies and processes: UNESCO, global panel, scientific panel, GDC


Major discussion point

Integration with Other UN Processes


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Request for summaries of stakeholder consultations for accountability

Explanation

The speaker requested that the co-facilitators work on providing summaries of how stakeholder consultations went, arguing this would be a great point for accountability and transparency in the whole process. They noted this was a missing element from the GDC consultations where stakeholders would be cut off without adequate time to be heard.


Evidence

Referenced problems with GDC consultations where stakeholders were cut off


Major discussion point

Transparency and Documentation


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Panelist 6
– Panelist 8
– Suela Janina

Agreed on

Need for transparency and documentation throughout the process


P

Paloma Lara Castro

Speech speed

179 words per minute

Speech length

250 words

Speech time

83 seconds

Importance of addressing corporate accountability and UN guiding principles

Explanation

The speaker emphasized the need to address corporate accountability, specifically ensuring that UN guiding principles on business and human rights are applied and effective within the WSIS process. They highlighted concerns about strategic logistics and corporate massive extraction affecting the Global South specifically.


Evidence

Referenced UN guiding principles on business and human rights and impact on Global South


Major discussion point

Substantive Issues for Review


Topics

Human rights | Economic


Reference to Cyber Crime Convention as example of inclusive participation

Explanation

The speaker suggested the Cyber Crime Convention as an example of more inclusive participation, noting that while not perfect, it allowed stakeholders to be in the same room during state negotiations and see both proposals and track changes. This made it possible for more direct engagement and participation in the discussions.


Evidence

Described specific features: stakeholders in the room during negotiations, access to proposals and track of changes


Major discussion point

Transparency and Documentation


Topics

Legal and regulatory


O

Online participant

Speech speed

122 words per minute

Speech length

92 words

Speech time

44 seconds

Student-centric strategies for media literacy

Explanation

The online participant suggested having student-centric strategies for sustainable, resilient media literacy as an important input for the WSIS review process. They emphasized this as a key area that should be considered in the framework going forward.


Evidence

Mentioned 35 years of experience in IT and telecom sector in India


Major discussion point

Substantive Issues for Review


Topics

Sociocultural | Online education


S

Suela Janina

Speech speed

145 words per minute

Speech length

2224 words

Speech time

917 seconds

Emphasis on open, transparent, and inclusive process throughout

Explanation

The co-facilitator emphasized their commitment to maintaining an open, transparent, and inclusive process throughout the WSIS review. They stressed the importance of upholding the multi-stakeholder model that WSIS has inherited from its beginning and enriching it through the review process.


Major discussion point

Multi-stakeholder Participation and Inclusivity


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Ekitela Lokaale
– Panelist 6
– Panelist 8

Agreed on

Need for inclusive and transparent multi-stakeholder process


Disagreed with

– Panelist 9

Disagreed on

Approach to multi-stakeholderism at international vs national levels


Extension of deadline for elements paper to July 25th

Explanation

The co-facilitator announced that due to requests from stakeholders, they extended the deadline for inputs to the elements paper from July 15th to July 25th. They also committed to updating the roadmap with more concrete dates by the end of July to help stakeholders plan their engagement.


Evidence

Original deadline was July 15th, extended to July 25th


Major discussion point

WSIS Plus 20 Review Process and Timeline


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Zero draft preparation during August with hybrid consultation options

Explanation

The co-facilitator outlined that after receiving all inputs by end of July, they would prepare the zero draft during August, with stakeholders having it by end of August for review. They emphasized using hybrid formats and technology to make consultations more inclusive, especially for those who cannot travel to New York.


Major discussion point

WSIS Plus 20 Review Process and Timeline


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Emphasis that sounding board is not the only communication channel

Explanation

The co-facilitator clarified that while they have established a sounding board, it is not the only channel of communication with stakeholders. They emphasized their commitment to an open process and invited everyone to approach them with inputs, regional consultations, or discussions throughout the roadmap.


Major discussion point

Sounding Board Role and Function


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Commitment to intensive work schedule with sounding board members

Explanation

The co-facilitator informed sounding board members that they should prepare not to have summer vacations as they would start intensive work immediately. They announced a meeting with sounding board members for the next day to jointly build a plan for tackling the upcoming weeks.


Evidence

Mentioned meeting with sounding board scheduled for the following day


Major discussion point

Sounding Board Role and Function


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Commitment to transparent documentation on UNDESA webpage

Explanation

The co-facilitator explained that they have already started providing transparent documentation through a dedicated UNDESA webpage that reflects every activity they are doing. This includes summaries of consultations with member states, stakeholders, and main takeaways from IGF, with plans to continue this approach.


Evidence

Mentioned existing summaries of member state consultations, stakeholder consultations, and IGF takeaways


Major discussion point

Transparency and Documentation


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Bruna Santos
– Panelist 6
– Panelist 8

Agreed on

Need for transparency and documentation throughout the process


Finding synergies between existing processes rather than creating new ones

Explanation

The co-facilitator acknowledged the need to find synergies and alignment between ongoing UN processes rather than creating new instruments. They emphasized being aware of scarce resources and the need to use existing mechanisms effectively, mentioning coordination with processes like UN80.


Evidence

Referenced UN80 process and concerns about scarce resources


Major discussion point

Integration with Other UN Processes


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Suggestion to use AI for discussion summaries

Explanation

The co-facilitator mentioned they have received ideas about how to use AI for creating summaries of discussions, indicating openness to using new technologies to improve the consultation and documentation process.


Major discussion point

Technical and Procedural Improvements


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Call for collective ownership of the process across all stakeholders

Explanation

The co-facilitator emphasized the importance of all participants taking ownership of the process together, moving beyond thinking in terms of separate roles and responsibilities. They called for open-mindedness and support from member states for stakeholder initiatives, particularly regarding joint consultations.


Major discussion point

Regional Engagement and Support


Topics

Legal and regulatory


E

Ekitela Lokaale

Speech speed

138 words per minute

Speech length

1806 words

Speech time

781 seconds

Using agreed language from GDC and other consensual documents as starting point

Explanation

The co-facilitator explained their approach of using agreed language from the Global Digital Compact and other consensual documents as a starting point, avoiding the need to reinvent the wheel. They emphasized not giving new meaning to concepts or creating new language unless absolutely necessary.


Major discussion point

Future-focused Approach and Avoiding Historical Debates


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Flexibility to update discussions where necessary for current developments

Explanation

The co-facilitator acknowledged that while they won’t reopen settled language unnecessarily, if stakeholders believe discussions need to be revisited to bring them up to speed with current developments, they will do so as a matter of necessity. They used the example of action lines as an area where there are different opinions on whether updates are needed.


Evidence

Mentioned action lines as an example where some say they’re good enough while others want updates


Major discussion point

Future-focused Approach and Avoiding Historical Debates


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Panelist 2
– Panelist 5

Agreed on

Importance of forward-looking approach while being selective about reopening settled issues


Coordination with President of General Assembly under delegated authority

Explanation

The co-facilitator clarified that they are acting under delegated authority from the President of the General Assembly, meaning there are no parallel consultations being conducted. They explained that they periodically meet with the PGA every couple of weeks to update on the process progress.


Evidence

Mentioned regular meetings with PGA every couple of weeks built into their program of work


Major discussion point

WSIS Plus 20 Review Process and Timeline


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Accommodation of different time zones in virtual consultations

Explanation

The co-facilitator explained their efforts to accommodate different time zones in virtual consultations, citing examples from June 9-10 informal consultations where they held one session late into the night for Pacific region participants and another early session for the other side of the globe.


Evidence

Provided specific examples from June 9-10 consultations with different timing for different regions


Major discussion point

Multi-stakeholder Participation and Inclusivity


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Suela Janina
– Panelist 6
– Panelist 8

Agreed on

Need for inclusive and transparent multi-stakeholder process


Recognition of structural exclusion challenges for Global South participants

Explanation

The co-facilitator acknowledged the broader challenge of structural exclusion affecting people from Africa and most of the Global South who are excluded by visa restrictions and other policies unrelated to WSIS or IGF. They noted this as a challenge for making processes truly inclusive and suggested strengthening regional and national IGFs as a potential solution.


Evidence

Mentioned examples of people unable to get Schengen visas for IGF in Norway and similar restrictions for Geneva


Major discussion point

Multi-stakeholder Participation and Inclusivity


Topics

Development


Agreed with

– Panelist 6
– Panelist 5

Agreed on

Challenges of geographical accessibility and visa restrictions


A

Anita Gurumurthy

Speech speed

123 words per minute

Speech length

262 words

Speech time

127 seconds

Recognition of 40 remote participants in the session

Explanation

The moderator informed the room that there were around 40 participants joining remotely and that they could raise their hands to take the floor through the remote participation moderator. This highlighted the hybrid nature of the consultation and efforts to include virtual participants.


Evidence

Mentioned specific number of 40 remote participants


Major discussion point

Technical and Procedural Improvements


Topics

Legal and regulatory


G

Gitanjali Sah

Speech speed

139 words per minute

Speech length

350 words

Speech time

151 seconds

Appreciation for hybrid format accommodating remote participation

Explanation

The session organizer noted the presence of remote participants and the mechanism for them to participate in the discussion. This demonstrated the commitment to inclusive participation through technology, allowing those who couldn’t physically attend to still contribute to the consultation process.


Evidence

Mentioned remote participation moderator and mechanism for remote participants to take the floor


Major discussion point

Technical and Procedural Improvements


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Agreements

Agreement points

Need for inclusive and transparent multi-stakeholder process

Speakers

– Suela Janina
– Ekitela Lokaale
– Panelist 6
– Panelist 8

Arguments

Emphasis on open, transparent, and inclusive process throughout


Accommodation of different time zones in virtual consultations


Need for joint consultations between stakeholders and member states


Encouragement for leveraging existing coalitions and regional forums


Summary

All speakers agreed on the fundamental importance of maintaining an inclusive, transparent process that accommodates all stakeholders through various means including hybrid formats, time zone considerations, and leveraging existing networks.


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Challenges of geographical accessibility and visa restrictions

Speakers

– Panelist 6
– Ekitela Lokaale
– Panelist 5

Arguments

Concerns about visa restrictions and travel costs limiting participation


Recognition of structural exclusion challenges for Global South participants


Request to avoid multiplying discussion venues and forums


Summary

Multiple speakers acknowledged the practical barriers to participation, particularly for Global South participants, due to visa restrictions, travel costs, and the burden of multiple venues.


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory


Need for transparency and documentation throughout the process

Speakers

– Bruna Santos
– Panelist 6
– Panelist 8
– Suela Janina

Arguments

Request for summaries of stakeholder consultations for accountability


Request for live streaming and summaries of negotiations


Suggestion to make visible areas of agreement and disagreement


Commitment to transparent documentation on UNDESA webpage


Summary

There was strong consensus on the need for comprehensive documentation, transparency measures, and accountability mechanisms throughout the consultation and negotiation process.


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Importance of forward-looking approach while being selective about reopening settled issues

Speakers

– Panelist 2
– Panelist 5
– Ekitela Lokaale

Arguments

Emphasis on forward-looking, action-oriented discussions


Recognition that some issues may need reopening due to technological changes


Flexibility to update discussions where necessary for current developments


Summary

Speakers agreed on balancing forward-looking discussions with selective reopening of issues where technological and societal changes necessitate updates, while avoiding unnecessary revisiting of settled matters.


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Similar viewpoints

All three speakers expressed concern about fragmentation across different UN processes and emphasized the need for better coordination and alignment between WSIS, GDC, IGF, and other related initiatives rather than creating new mechanisms.

Speakers

– Panelist 7
– Bruna Santos
– Suela Janina

Arguments

Need for alignment between WSIS, GDC, and IGF initiatives


Concerns about fragmentation across UN agencies on AI governance


Finding synergies between existing processes rather than creating new ones


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Asia-Pacific representatives appreciated the co-facilitators’ efforts to accommodate regional participation challenges and emphasized the importance of regional engagement in the process.

Speakers

– Panelist 10
– Panelist 11
– Ekitela Lokaale

Arguments

Appreciation for recognition of Asia-Pacific time zone challenges


Invitation to participate in Asia-Pacific regional IGF in Nepal


Accommodation of different time zones in virtual consultations


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Both speakers emphasized the need to address power imbalances and ensure protection of vulnerable groups, whether through inclusive frameworks or corporate accountability mechanisms.

Speakers

– Panelist 6
– Paloma Lara Castro

Arguments

Need for inclusion of vulnerable groups and underserved communities


Importance of addressing corporate accountability and UN guiding principles


Topics

Human rights | Development


Unexpected consensus

Use of AI and technology for process improvement

Speakers

– Suela Janina
– Ekitela Lokaale

Arguments

Suggestion to use AI for discussion summaries


Zero draft preparation during August with hybrid consultation options


Explanation

It was somewhat unexpected that the co-facilitators themselves suggested using AI technology for improving the consultation process, showing openness to innovative approaches in a traditionally formal UN setting.


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Recognition of power imbalances in multi-stakeholderism

Speakers

– Panelist 9
– Ekitela Lokaale

Arguments

Power imbalances between large tech companies and smaller entities in multi-stakeholderism


Recognition of structural exclusion challenges for Global South participants


Explanation

There was unexpected acknowledgment from both a developing country representative and a co-facilitator about the inherent power imbalances in the multi-stakeholder model, which is typically promoted as an equitable approach.


Topics

Development | Economic


Overall assessment

Summary

The discussion revealed strong consensus on procedural matters including the need for inclusive, transparent processes, accommodation of participation barriers, and comprehensive documentation. There was also agreement on balancing forward-looking approaches with selective updates to existing frameworks, and on the need for better coordination between related UN processes.


Consensus level

High level of consensus on procedural and process-related issues, with constructive alignment between co-facilitators and stakeholders on how to conduct the review. The consensus suggests a collaborative approach that could facilitate successful negotiations, though substantive policy disagreements were not extensively explored in this session.


Differences

Different viewpoints

Whether to reopen settled language and agreements from previous WSIS processes

Speakers

– Panelist 2
– Panelist 5

Arguments

Avoiding revisiting settled debates from the past


Recognition that some issues may need reopening due to technological changes


Summary

Panelist 2 emphasized avoiding discussions of historic issues and language already agreed in other texts to focus on future-oriented agenda, while Panelist 5 argued that life has changed significantly in 20 years and some issues may need to be reopened, specifically mentioning NetMundial work that needs to be taken into account.


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Approach to multi-stakeholderism at international vs national levels

Speakers

– Panelist 9
– Suela Janina

Arguments

Power imbalances between large tech companies and smaller entities in multi-stakeholderism


Emphasis on open, transparent, and inclusive process throughout


Summary

Panelist 9 highlighted significant power imbalances at the international level where big tech companies dominate while small and medium-sized companies in developing countries cannot participate equally, while the co-facilitators emphasized maintaining inclusive multi-stakeholder processes without directly addressing the power imbalance concerns.


Topics

Economic | Development | Legal and regulatory


Unexpected differences

Role and scope of the sounding board as communication channel

Speakers

– Panelist 3
– Panelist 8
– Suela Janina

Arguments

Question about vision for sounding board contribution to resolution development


Encouragement for leveraging existing coalitions and regional forums


Emphasis that sounding board is not the only communication channel


Explanation

While there was general appreciation for the sounding board creation, there was subtle disagreement about its role and exclusivity. Some stakeholders seemed concerned about it becoming the primary channel for engagement, while co-facilitators had to clarify it wouldn’t be the only communication avenue.


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Overall assessment

Summary

The consultation showed relatively low levels of direct disagreement, with most conflicts being procedural rather than substantive. Main areas of disagreement included whether to revisit settled language from previous processes, how to address power imbalances in multi-stakeholderism, and practical concerns about participation accessibility.


Disagreement level

Low to moderate disagreement level. Most participants shared common goals of inclusive, transparent, and effective WSIS review process, but differed on specific approaches and mechanisms. The disagreements were constructive and focused on process improvements rather than fundamental opposition to the review itself. This suggests good potential for consensus-building, though attention will be needed to address participation barriers and power imbalances raised by stakeholders.


Partial agreements

Partial agreements

Similar viewpoints

All three speakers expressed concern about fragmentation across different UN processes and emphasized the need for better coordination and alignment between WSIS, GDC, IGF, and other related initiatives rather than creating new mechanisms.

Speakers

– Panelist 7
– Bruna Santos
– Suela Janina

Arguments

Need for alignment between WSIS, GDC, and IGF initiatives


Concerns about fragmentation across UN agencies on AI governance


Finding synergies between existing processes rather than creating new ones


Topics

Legal and regulatory


Asia-Pacific representatives appreciated the co-facilitators’ efforts to accommodate regional participation challenges and emphasized the importance of regional engagement in the process.

Speakers

– Panelist 10
– Panelist 11
– Ekitela Lokaale

Arguments

Appreciation for recognition of Asia-Pacific time zone challenges


Invitation to participate in Asia-Pacific regional IGF in Nepal


Accommodation of different time zones in virtual consultations


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Development


Both speakers emphasized the need to address power imbalances and ensure protection of vulnerable groups, whether through inclusive frameworks or corporate accountability mechanisms.

Speakers

– Panelist 6
– Paloma Lara Castro

Arguments

Need for inclusion of vulnerable groups and underserved communities


Importance of addressing corporate accountability and UN guiding principles


Topics

Human rights | Development


Takeaways

Key takeaways

The WSIS Plus 20 review process will be conducted with an open, transparent, and inclusive multi-stakeholder approach, with co-facilitators acting under delegated authority from the UN General Assembly President


The process will be future-focused and action-oriented, avoiding revisiting settled historical debates while using agreed language from GDC and other consensual documents as starting points


Hybrid consultation formats will be implemented to address participation barriers, including visa restrictions, travel costs, and time zone differences that particularly affect Global South stakeholders


The deadline for elements paper inputs has been extended to July 25th, with zero draft preparation during August and updated roadmap details to be provided by end of July


There is recognition of power imbalances in multi-stakeholderism between large tech companies and smaller entities, particularly affecting developing countries


Integration and alignment between WSIS, GDC, and IGF processes is needed to avoid fragmentation and leverage existing mechanisms rather than creating new ones


Transparency will be maintained through documentation on UNDESA webpage, including summaries of consultations and areas of agreement/disagreement


The sounding board will work intensively but is not the only communication channel – regional and thematic consultations through existing coalitions are encouraged


Resolutions and action items

Co-facilitators will provide updated roadmap with specific dates by end of July 2024 for autumn negotiations planning


Zero draft will be prepared during August 2024 after receiving all inputs by July 25th deadline


Hybrid consultation formats will be implemented to accommodate different time zones and remote participation


Sounding board meeting scheduled to begin immediately (tomorrow) with intensive work schedule


All inputs and consultation summaries will be transparently documented on dedicated UNDESA webpage


Co-facilitators will continue periodic meetings with UN General Assembly President to update on process progress


Regional consultations will be supported, with invitation extended to participate in Asia-Pacific regional IGF in Nepal (October 11-14)


Unresolved issues

Specific modalities for stakeholder participation during intergovernmental negotiations remain unclear


How to effectively address power imbalances between large tech companies and smaller entities in multi-stakeholder processes


Integration mechanisms between WSIS review, GDC implementation, and IGF evolution are not yet defined


Whether WSIS Action Lines need updating or are sufficient as currently structured


How to ensure meaningful participation from Global South stakeholders facing structural barriers (visas, funding)


Specific role and enhanced functions for IGF in monitoring Action Lines progress


How to address unilateral coercive measures impact on developing countries’ digital development


Corporate accountability mechanisms and application of UN guiding principles on business and human rights


Suggested compromises

Use hybrid formats (in-person and virtual) for consultations to balance inclusivity with meaningful participation


Leverage existing coalitions and regional forums rather than creating new consultation mechanisms


Focus on areas needing updates due to technological changes while preserving agreed language where consensus exists


Strengthen regional and national IGFs to enable more accessible participation for those unable to travel to major capitals


Provide live streaming and detailed summaries of negotiations when full stakeholder participation in rooms is not possible


Use technology (including AI) for discussion summaries and documentation to improve transparency and accessibility


Coordinate timing and content between WSIS review and other UN digital processes to avoid duplication while maintaining distinct roles


Thought provoking comments

Time is quite short, of course. We all recognize that the window for these discussions is shorter than probably we would normally like to have. I would just like to say that this WSIS review does need to be as future-focused, action-oriented as possible to address the opportunities and challenges around digital development that we all face. I’d just like to stress the point that we should avoid as much as possible spending time discussing issues that are historic, language that’s been agreed in other texts and things like that.

Speaker

Chris Adamson (UK Department of Science, Innovation, and Technology)


Reason

This comment was insightful because it directly addressed a fundamental tension in international negotiations – the balance between building on existing agreements versus getting bogged down in rehashing old debates. It provided strategic guidance for how to use limited time effectively.


Impact

This comment significantly influenced the co-facilitators’ approach, with Ambassador Lokaale directly responding that there was ‘general agreement that we need to conduct the current review in a forward-looking manner’ and that they would use ‘agreed language, including in the GDC and other consensual documents as a starting point.’ It established a key principle that guided subsequent discussions about methodology.


I heard the discussion about not changing something who are already been agree upon, but life changed within these 20 years, and maybe there are some issues that need to be reopened, because, or open, I will say, because, for example, the work done by NetMundial need to be taken into account, and I am not sure that the wording made 20 years ago will be or could be the same.

Speaker

Sébastien Bachelet (Internet Society France, chair of EURALO)


Reason

This comment was thought-provoking because it directly challenged the previous speaker’s position about not reopening settled issues, introducing nuance about when revisiting agreements might be necessary due to technological and social evolution over 20 years.


Impact

This created a productive tension in the discussion, forcing the co-facilitators to clarify their position. Ambassador Lokaale responded by acknowledging that ‘if, in the opinion of stakeholders, we need to revisit some of the discussions in order to bring them up to speed with the current or recent developments, as a matter of necessity, then we’ll have to do that,’ showing how the comment helped refine the approach to balancing continuity with necessary updates.


When we talk about multi-stakeholderism in national level, it is a, I mean, a good approach… But when we are talking at the international level, stakeholders, especially big, I mean, tech companies, they are not in the same, I mean, position. Some of them are very strengths. They are powerful and, I mean, they can have dominant role in the digital area… small and medium-sized companies in developing countries cannot, I mean, have equal participation in the international area.

Speaker

Paloma (representing developing country perspective)


Reason

This comment was deeply insightful because it exposed a fundamental flaw in the idealized notion of multi-stakeholderism – that power imbalances between different types of stakeholders can undermine the principle of equal participation, particularly affecting Global South actors.


Impact

This comment introduced a critical perspective that reframed the entire discussion about inclusivity. It moved beyond procedural concerns about participation to substantive questions about power dynamics. Ambassador Lokaale acknowledged this point, stating ‘We know that big tech, big private sector companies hold certain leverage because of resources and the capacities that are available to them compared to the smaller ones,’ showing how the comment elevated the discussion to address structural inequalities.


It’s not just New York. I know New York now is much more difficult. We met groups in Norway who said many more people could not travel to the IGF because of the visa restrictions… So what does this mean? I think it’s a challenge for us to make these processes truly inclusive by finding ways of getting those who cannot travel to these capitals, to these venues, and I’m talking about people from Africa, people from most of the global south who are excluded by structural things that have nothing to do with WSIS or IGF or bad policies of governments.

Speaker

Ambassador Ekitela Lokaale


Reason

This was a remarkably candid acknowledgment from a co-facilitator about systemic barriers to participation that go beyond the scope of the WSIS process itself, showing sophisticated understanding of how global inequalities affect international governance processes.


Impact

This comment transformed the discussion from focusing on logistical solutions to acknowledging deeper structural problems. It validated concerns raised by multiple stakeholders about accessibility and shifted the conversation toward more creative solutions like strengthening regional IGFs and national-level processes, fundamentally reframing how to think about inclusive participation.


I wanted to ask what measures you have in mind beyond the October consultation to engage the broader set of stakeholders and if you don’t mind to make a suggestion that you make use of some of the coalitions and forums that we already have… Also regional forums and spaces and perhaps an approach that leverages them as well as providing space for thematic and regional consultation could be really helpful.

Speaker

Ellie McDonald (Global Partners Digital)


Reason

This comment was strategically insightful because it offered concrete solutions for enhancing participation by building on existing networks rather than creating new mechanisms, addressing the concern about multiplying forums while maximizing outreach.


Impact

This comment helped bridge the tension between the need for broad consultation and the constraint of limited resources and time. It influenced the co-facilitators’ thinking about leveraging existing structures, with Ambassador Janina responding positively about being ‘very much open’ to regional consultations and using established networks.


Overall assessment

These key comments fundamentally shaped the discussion by introducing critical tensions and nuances that forced deeper examination of core assumptions. The exchange between Chris Adamson and Sébastien Bachelet established the methodological framework for balancing continuity with necessary updates. Paloma’s intervention about power imbalances elevated the conversation from procedural to substantive concerns about equity in global governance. Ambassador Lokaale’s candid acknowledgment of structural barriers validated stakeholder concerns and reframed the inclusion challenge. Ellie McDonald’s suggestion about leveraging existing networks provided a practical path forward. Together, these comments transformed what could have been a routine consultation into a more sophisticated discussion about the fundamental challenges of inclusive, effective global digital governance in an unequal world.


Follow-up questions

Are the consultations after the zero draft (mid-October stock-taking session and November consultation) multi-stakeholder or purely governmental?

Speaker

Kusaya Al-Shati (Kuwait, private sector)


Explanation

This clarification is important for stakeholders to understand their level of participation in later stages of the process and plan accordingly.


Will there be side events for multi-stakeholder organizations during the high-level meeting at the General Assembly (December 16-17)?

Speaker

Kusaya Al-Shati (Kuwait, private sector)


Explanation

This affects how stakeholders can participate in the final stages of the WSIS review process.


When will specific details on dates and timings of informal discussions and negotiations during autumn be released?

Speaker

Chris Adamson (UK Department of Science, Innovation, and Technology)


Explanation

Early planning is essential for stakeholders, especially from the global majority, to secure funding and visas for participation in New York.


What is the vision for the sounding board and how will it contribute to developing the resolution?

Speaker

Chris Buckridge (IGF MAG, technical community)


Explanation

Understanding the role and function of the sounding board is important for effective participation and coordination.


How will co-facilitators cooperate with the President of the General Assembly to ensure stakeholder input impacts intergovernmental negotiations?

Speaker

Wolfgang Kleinwächter (retired professor, MAG member, sounding board member)


Explanation

This addresses the critical link between stakeholder consultations and the formal negotiation process.


How will AI governance discussions be integrated across different UN agencies and processes to avoid fragmentation?

Speaker

Bruna Santos (Witness)


Explanation

There is concern about mirroring debates across UNESCO, global panels, and GDC processes, requiring better coordination.


What measures beyond the October consultation will engage the broader stakeholder community?

Speaker

Ellie McDonald (Global Partners Digital)


Explanation

This seeks to understand how stakeholders can remain engaged throughout the negotiation process beyond formal consultations.


How can existing coalitions and regional forums be leveraged for thematic and regional consultations?

Speaker

Ellie McDonald (Global Partners Digital)


Explanation

This could make the consultation process more efficient and inclusive by using established networks.


How can small and medium-sized companies in developing countries achieve more equal participation at the international level?

Speaker

Unnamed participant (Iran)


Explanation

This addresses power imbalances in multi-stakeholderism where big tech companies have dominant roles compared to smaller entities.


How can multi-stakeholderism be better fostered at the national level?

Speaker

Suela Janina (co-facilitator, responding to various inputs)


Explanation

There appears to be a gap between how multi-stakeholderism works internationally versus nationally, requiring better understanding and examples.


How can the IGF be upgraded to monitor progress of WSIS Action Lines and GDC objectives?

Speaker

Titi Casa (Italian government)


Explanation

This explores how to enhance cooperation between WSIS, GDC, and IGF to address their respective gaps and strengthen their collective impact.


How can consultation processes be made truly inclusive given visa restrictions and travel constraints for Global South participants?

Speaker

Multiple participants (Anna Osterling, Ekitela Lokaale, others)


Explanation

This addresses structural barriers to participation that affect the legitimacy and inclusiveness of the consultation process.


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WSIS Action Line: C3 Access to information and knowledge: “Investing in Equitable Knowledge Access: Diamond Open Access”

WSIS Action Line: C3 Access to information and knowledge: “Investing in Equitable Knowledge Access: Diamond Open Access”

Session at a glance

Summary

This discussion focused on democratizing access to knowledge through diamond open access publishing and the right to information, as part of the WSIS Action Line on access to information and knowledge. UNESCO representatives emphasized that access to scientific knowledge is a global necessity that drives innovation and sustainable development, yet remains deeply unequal due to expensive paywalls that particularly affect institutions in the Global South. The session explored diamond open access as a solution, which allows authors to publish and readers to access research freely through public funding and community-driven frameworks, contrasting with traditional subscription models and gold open access that shift costs to authors.


UNESCO’s global consultation on diamond open access collected insights from over 2,900 stakeholders across 92 member states, revealing that equity, feasibility, and cost-saving were the most valued benefits, while funding and recognition remained the biggest challenges. The discussion highlighted alarming cost increases in traditional publishing, with European subscription prices tripling in recent years and gold open access expenditures reaching 8.3 billion euros between 2019-2023. Representatives from IFLA emphasized libraries’ crucial role in providing public access to information, particularly for underserved populations without connectivity, and their involvement in negotiating with publishers and supporting open access initiatives.


The International Federation for Information Processing raised important questions about how artificial intelligence will transform information access, suggesting that traditional library models must evolve as knowledge becomes increasingly born-digital and accessible through AI systems. Participants discussed successful diamond open access implementations in Latin America, France, and Indonesia, demonstrating that government support and institutional collaboration are essential for sustainable models. The session concluded with recognition that the information landscape has fundamentally changed, requiring new policies and approaches that move beyond traditional business models to ensure equitable access to knowledge in the digital age.


Keypoints

## Major Discussion Points:


– **Diamond Open Access Model as an Alternative to Costly Publishing**: The discussion extensively covered diamond open access publishing, which allows authors to publish and readers to access research freely without paywalls or author processing charges. This model is presented as a solution to the expensive subscription and gold open access models that create barriers, particularly for institutions in the Global South.


– **UNESCO’s Role in Monitoring Access to Information Laws (SDG 16.10.2)**: UNESCO serves as the custodian agency for monitoring the implementation of access to information laws globally. Through annual questionnaires sent to member states, UNESCO tracks progress from 62 responding countries in 2019 to 125 in 2024, emphasizing both adoption and implementation of these laws.


– **Libraries as Critical Infrastructure for Information Access**: The role of libraries, particularly public and academic libraries, was highlighted as essential for providing equitable access to information, especially for underserved populations without private internet access. Libraries serve as community spaces that remove barriers like subscriptions and paywalls while supporting open access initiatives.


– **Impact of Artificial Intelligence on Traditional Information Access**: The discussion addressed how AI and large language models are fundamentally changing how people access information, potentially making traditional library cataloging and indexing systems obsolete, and requiring new policies for digital natives who will use AI rather than traditional library resources.


– **Global Inequalities in Scientific Knowledge Access**: A central theme was addressing the disparity between developed and developing nations in accessing scientific research, with much publicly-funded research remaining behind expensive paywalls, reinforcing global inequalities in scientific participation and policy-making.


## Overall Purpose:


This session was part of the WSIS (World Summit on the Information Society) Action Line on Access to Information and Knowledge, aimed at exploring how to democratize access to scientific knowledge through diamond open access models and broader right-to-information frameworks. The discussion sought to gather insights for the WSIS+20 review and develop policy recommendations for creating more equitable, sustainable knowledge-sharing systems globally.


## Overall Tone:


The discussion maintained a collaborative and forward-looking tone throughout, with speakers building upon each other’s points constructively. The tone was professional yet urgent, emphasizing the need for systemic change in how scientific knowledge is accessed and shared. While acknowledging significant challenges (high costs, global inequalities, technological disruption), the overall sentiment remained optimistic about solutions like diamond open access and the potential for international cooperation to create more equitable knowledge systems. The tone became slightly more urgent toward the end when discussing AI’s disruptive impact and the need to adapt policies for future generations.


Speakers

– **Davide Storti**: From UNESCO, session moderator for the WSIS action line session on access to information and knowledge


– **Zeynep Varoglu**: UNESCO senior program specialist in charge of access to information, participated online


– **Marius Lukosiunas**: From UNESCO, works on SDG 16.10.2 (access to information laws) as UNESCO is the custodian agency for this indicator


– **David Oliva Uribe**: UNESCO consultant specializing in diamond open access and scientific communication research


– **Maria de Brasdefer**: Representative from the International Federation of Library Associations (IFLA)


– **Anthony Wong**: President of the International Federation for Information Processing (IFIP), formerly worked with Thomson Reuters on digital transformation


– **Participant**: Student studying in France, asked questions about diamond open access implementation


Additional speakers:


None identified beyond the speakers names list provided.


Full session report

# Summary: WSIS Action Line Session on Access to Information and Knowledge


## Introduction and Context


This discussion formed part of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) Action Line session on access to information and knowledge, moderated by Davide Storti from UNESCO. The session brought together international experts to examine how to democratise access to knowledge through diamond open access publishing and broader right-to-information frameworks.


The participants included Zeynep Varoglu from UNESCO’s Open Science team, Marius Lukosiunas from UNESCO’s Communication and Information sector, David Oliva Uribe from Science Europe, Maria de Brasdefer from the International Federation of Library Associations (IFLA), and Anthony Wong from the International Federation for Information Processing (IFIP).


## Access to Information as a Universal Right


Zeynep Varoglu opened by emphasising that “access to scientific knowledge is not a luxury, it’s a global necessity that drives innovation, supports sustainable development, and informs public policy.” She highlighted that current access remains deeply unequal, with publicly funded research locked behind expensive paywalls that particularly affect institutions in the Global South.


Marius Lukosiunas reinforced this rights-based approach by highlighting UNESCO’s role as custodian agency for SDG 16.10.2, which monitors implementation of access to information laws globally. He reported that 139 countries have adopted such laws, and UNESCO’s questionnaire responses expanded from 62 countries in 2019 to 125 in 2024. He also mentioned UNESCO’s support for the International Day of Universal Access to Information, which now features over 124 national celebrations, and their capacity building efforts through MOOCs.


## The Crisis of Current Publishing Models


David Oliva Uribe presented concerning statistics about the unsustainable costs of traditional academic publishing. He reported that European subscription prices tripled between 2019 and 2023, rising from 0.5 billion euros to 1.5 billion euros. Meanwhile, gold open access expenditures reached 8.349 billion euros globally between 2019-2023, demonstrating that shifting costs from libraries to authors has not resolved the fundamental affordability crisis.


This economic burden was illustrated by a student participant from France, who shared personal experience of facing 20-euro charges for individual scientific articles—a cost that creates significant barriers for researchers with limited resources.


## Diamond Open Access as a Solution


The discussion extensively explored diamond open access as an alternative model that allows authors to publish and readers to access research freely without paywalls or author processing charges. This approach relies on public funding and community-driven frameworks rather than commercial subscription or fee-based models.


UNESCO’s global consultation on diamond open access collected insights from over 2,900 stakeholders across 92 member states. Varoglu reported that equity, feasibility, and cost-saving were the most valued benefits, whilst funding and recognition remained the biggest implementation challenges. She noted that the full UNESCO report will be published at the end of the month.


David Oliva Uribe highlighted successful implementations in various regions, noting that countries like France and several Latin American nations are implementing diamond open access through government support and university collaboration. He specifically mentioned that Indonesia has over 6,000 diamond open access journals and highlighted institutions like Red Alec and CLACSO as promoting diamond open access in Latin America. He also referenced the European Diamond Capacity initiative led by Science Europe.


## The Role of Libraries


Maria de Brasdefer from IFLA emphasised libraries’ crucial role in providing equitable access to information, particularly for underserved populations without private internet access. She explained that libraries historically operate on open access principles, removing barriers like subscriptions and paywalls whilst serving as community spaces that democratise information access.


Libraries support open access initiatives through multiple mechanisms: maintaining open repositories, guiding researchers toward open access platforms, negotiating with publishers for lower subscription fees, and establishing funds through research grants to support open access publishing. Brasdefer argued that access to information laws should specifically mention libraries rather than including them under broad “community spaces” terminology.


## Technology and Future Considerations


Anthony Wong from IFIP provided perspective on how technology is transforming information access. He noted that IFIP was founded by UNESCO in 1960 and now has 13 technical committees with 100 working groups and over 6,000 professionals. IFIP offers a digital library at ifip.org with more than 20,000 freely accessible documents.


Wong observed that most publications are now available through large language models and noted that China is introducing AI education in primary and secondary schools, suggesting future students may primarily use AI rather than traditional library resources. He also mentioned possibilities like virtual reality and avatars providing new ways to access knowledge, whilst emphasising the need to balance technological capabilities with ethical considerations about protecting sacred and indigenous knowledge.


## Balancing Openness with Protection


Wong highlighted that some indigenous knowledge should be sacred and protected rather than freely accessible, requiring careful balance in access policies. Maria de Brasdefer acknowledged this complexity whilst emphasising libraries’ role in promoting multilingual knowledge and preserving traditional and indigenous knowledge in communities.


## Key Commitments and Next Steps


The session generated several concrete commitments. UNESCO committed to publishing the full report on diamond open access consultation findings at the end of the month. Participants were invited to contribute views for the WSIS+20 review process. IFIP offered to contribute to policy discussions on AI’s impact on information access.


Varoglu synthesised the discussion by noting that “it can’t be business as usual,” acknowledging that traditional approaches are no longer sufficient in the digital age. The session demonstrated both the urgency of current information access challenges and the potential for collaborative solutions through diamond open access models, library support, and technological innovation.


## Conclusion


This WSIS Action Line session successfully connected policy principles with concrete implementation examples and personal experiences. The discussion highlighted the need for sustainable funding models for diamond open access, the crucial role of libraries in democratising access, and the importance of adapting to technological change whilst respecting cultural boundaries around certain types of knowledge.


The success of existing implementations in various countries provides evidence that alternative models are achievable when institutional support and policy frameworks align. As participants prepare for the WSIS+20 review, this discussion provides a foundation for developing policies that can democratise access to knowledge whilst maintaining the flexibility to adapt to technological and social change.


Session transcript

Davide Storti: waiting yes yes so we can start and welcome to this very early morning session and thank you for being here this is a session which is a is a what is called an action line session uh as part of the WSIS action plan so there is a several action line and this line is particularly called the access to information and knowledge action line and which is quite a transversal one because you can’t maybe achieve anything of the other action lines without access to information uh and data so I’m pleased to have with me um so this is Davide Storci from UNESCO first of all and I’m pleased to have with me a few speakers distinguished speakers from IFLA, Maria Bradefer, having online there is my colleague Zeynep Varoglu a senior program specialist in charge of access to information uh Mr. Marius Lukoszny was also from UNESCO, Mr. Anthony Wong from the information Federation of Information Processing and uh Mr. David Oliva-Uribe was also our consultant at UNESCO on on these issues so without further ado I’d like to to give the floor to um to start uh to my colleague Zeynep Varoglu who is online.


Zeynep Varoglu: Thank you Davide, thank you very much and welcome to all the participants, welcome dear colleagues, dear friends to the session on democratizing digitizing knowledge through diamond-open access and the right to information. Access to scientific knowledge is not a luxury, it’s a global necessity. It drives innovation, supports sustainable development, and informs public policy. At UNESCO, we see access to knowledge as a public good, yet today access remains deeply unequal. Much scientific knowledge, especially when publicly funded, remains locked behind expensive paywalls out of reach for many researches and institutions, particularly in the global South. It’s limits who can participate in science and policymaking, reinforcing global inequalities. To address this, UNESCO promotes Open Solutions, a portfolio that includes open educational resources, open data, free and open-source software, and open access to research. These digital public goods break down barriers, foster inclusive innovation, and build fair and resilient knowledge societies. Diamond-open access is central to this vision. It allows authors to publish and readers to access research freely. Based on public funding and community-driven, multilingual, non-commercial frameworks, diamond-open access turns aspiration to action, building a knowledge ecosystem rooted in equity, openness, and sustainability. This approach aligns with WISE’s Action Line D3, which recognizes access to information and knowledge as universal rights and fundamental to inclusive development. It urges stakeholders to promote affordable public access through open archives and scientific information. Open access removes cost barriers and empowers communities to share knowledge freely. In the context of the Global Digital Compact, openly shared scientific knowledge functions as a true digital public good. accessible, interoperable, and governed in the public interest. This strengthens the digital ecosystems that underpin innovation and collaboration worldwide. Today, we’ll explore how policy frameworks, shared infrastructure, and international cooperation can promote and sustain Diamond Open Access. We’ll draw on key findings from UNESCO’s Global Consultation on Diamond Open Access, which collected insights from over 2,900 stakeholders across 92 member states. These findings will inform policymaking and guide investments in interoperable, community-led publishing platforms, critical to expanding equitable knowledge access, especially in underrepresented regions. But Diamond Open Access is only part of the picture. It must be placed within the broader right to information, as articulated in SDG 1610, which calls for public access to information and protection of fundamental freedoms through enabling legislation. Access to information laws, often called freedom of information laws, provide legal mechanisms for citizens to seek and receive government-held information. This fosters transparency, accountability, and meaningful democratic participation. True access to information goes beyond passive availability. It requires proactive disclosure, open data policies, media freedom, digital connectivity, and the removal of legal, institutional, and technological barriers. It also demands inclusivity, ensuring marginalized groups such as women, persons with disabilities, and rural communities are not left behind. UNESCO, as a custodian of Indicator 1610-2, monitors global progress on Diamond Open Access. access to information frameworks. We support member states in creating legal environments, building capacity, and sharing best practices. Our data collection and reporting to the United Nations help keep access to information central to global development. In closing, diamond open access and the broader right to information are two complementary pillars that advance inclusive knowledge societies where citizens are empowered, governments are accountable, and sustainable development thrives. I trust that our discussions this morning will be both rich and productive as we explore ways to strengthen these foundations and build a more open and equitable future for knowledge world. Thank you.


Davide Storti: Thank you very much Zeynep. I think you highlighted the different dimensions that are involved in this, in making information accessible from the people, the infrastructure, the laws, the various dimensions that are enabled living in this to happen. And we’ve taken one of these dimensions, I would like to now involve Maria de Pallaferro. She’s from the International Federation of Library Associations, IFLA. So, I mean, who best placed to tell us how access to information is actually brought to life, to life. So, IFLA.


Maria de Brasdefer: Yes, thank you David. And well, I think to start the first thing that I would like to say, and perhaps if you’re familiar to the world of libraries, but something that we always start by saying when we come to this space is that at IFLA we have also realized that that, especially also because most of the access to information today is done online. We always try to continue to advocate for the importance of public access to information despite the existence of private access. This is one of the things that we always mention because this is something that libraries do a lot, particularly for populations who don’t necessarily have access or to connectivity. So this is something that we always want to take forward. And then also, if we talk, for example, about what your colleague mentioned about, for example, SDG 1610-2, that refers to the access to information laws, and something that we see a lot in libraries also is that while there’s a lot of countries who have access to information, in some way have embedded community spaces like libraries in access to information laws. Something that we also want to highlight is that we also find important that the word library is not buried under the policy in those types of laws. So for example, in some of the documents in these countries, libraries are not necessarily specifically mentioned, but they are mentioned broadly as community spaces. And so then there’s, yeah, they can get a little bit in the way. So I think this is also something that we consider very important and highlighting in terms of that, yeah, enabling or following on that line in SDG. And of course, we also think that to improve perhaps following up on that SDG with library support, we would also think, well, it would be more important that more countries perhaps would create and also enforce these policies that guarantee the right to access to information. And we also think the library network could have a big role in it, because after all, they have been historically linked with access to information. And it’s also something that we really want to encourage people from being aware that they can rely on. on this network for that. And that is how relevant it is also for people, particularly in under-served regions, or particularly for the ones who are not connected. And then also, if we go on to talk a little bit about open access, so more in terms of the, on the diamond open access model, for example, what I see relevant in that term is perhaps that when libraries tend to operate on open access models already and they tend to also often remove costly barriers to access to information, like for example, subscriptions, paywalls, this is also something that they commonly do. And particularly public and academic libraries, they have a big role in this and they also have a big story of promoting scientific and open knowledge and also by making information accessible to everyone. So we do think that perhaps also libraries could be, continue to support this model by, continue to maintain open repositories, perhaps also support journals that use the diamond open access model. And perhaps also continue to guide local researchers towards publishing in open access platforms and teaching open science skills, which is also something that we know a lot of, particularly academic libraries are doing now. And yeah, in a way, also replicating the model of what they already do with media and digital literacy skills, which is also something that they tend to do a lot, but perhaps offer workshops and teach researchers about open licenses, for example, like Creative Commons. And another role I also think about is the promotion of multilingual knowledge and communities research and also perhaps preservation of traditional and indigenous knowledge, which is also something that we see libraries in a way are doing in a lot of regions. So they are fulfilling this, a need that is already there in the community, but that, yeah, people haven’t found another way to fulfill it other than through these types of institutions. And then I don’t know if I still have some time.


Davide Storti: Well, maybe, thank you, Maria, maybe we’ll. We continue this conversation. I think it’s quite important. Before getting to Antony, I would like to take the opportunity because we just spoke about SDG 1610-2 and online we have my colleague Marius who, you know, UNESCO is the custodian agency for this SDG particularly. So, I would like to give the floor to Marius for telling us more about how this action line actually is, what it’s doing in terms of access to information and access


Marius Lukosiunas: to information laws. Marius? Thank you Davide. Good morning colleagues in Geneva. A very quick update on where UNESCO stands vis-à-vis SDG 1610-2 which is the adoption of access to information legal guarantees. So, as it has been mentioned UNESCO is a custodian agency for this particular indicator and our main efforts are aimed to first evaluate the situation to monitor the situation with access to information laws and the implementation and here I have to say that it is a very important addition. It’s not just the adoption of the laws but also it’s the implementation. So, first we are monitoring. Based on that monitoring what we are doing we are drawing and important recommendations to the member states especially in the field of access to information implementation of the laws and here is why. First, maybe I’ll continue a little bit with monitoring. How do we do the monitoring? Every year we are launching a questionnaire. Last year which is going to the member states. We’ve started in 2019, and we had only 62 countries responding to our questionnaire. In 2024, we have 125. So basically, through that questionnaire, we collect the major information, and then we translate that information, that data, into the report with the recommendations I’ve mentioned. I think that the result of participation of the member states is quite good. We have above 120 member states responding. So that shows that this is an important issue for the member states. That also provides us with ample data to draw some recommendations. To compare, of course, we have more than 190 member states. So nearly two-thirds are part of that process. Now, I will mention a few recommendations which stem from our data. So for example, we have clearly established, and that is the recommendation which addresses the issue of implementation. We have clearly established the link between the number of access to information requests, and number of adjudicated requests, and the existence of the dedicated oversight body. So this is just one of the examples. I’m not going to go into more of the recommendations we provide through this monitoring and reporting exercise. Now, the next thing which I wanted to touch on is regarding the promotion of the adoption of the laws. That is another very important area UNESCO is engaged and now we have, as of end of 2024, we have 139 countries which adopted that law. And I think it is another very important number because it clearly shows to us that from one hand there is a fundamental understanding among the member states that the right to information, which is the core, the central right within the access to information policies and practices and different infrastructures, the right to information can be best protected by the law. And also it shows that to a certain extent many member states recognize that right as such, which is another, I think, important theoretical dimension of the whole process. So UNESCO, we are actively, as I’ve mentioned, we are actively promoting the adoption and we mainly do it through the organization of the celebration of access to information, International Day of Universal Access to Information. It is a UN day and we are celebrating it on the 28th of September. All in all, we’ve had more than, every year we are having more than close to one to 30 national celebrations. And also we are organizing a big global conference where we discuss with our stakeholders, information commissioners, human rights commissioners, journalists, media, academia, libraries. We discuss different aspects of this whole issue. For example, last year’s IDU-I was mostly focusing on access to big data and other digital aspects of the process. So all in all, as I’ve said, since 2018, we have organized about 124 national celebrations and of course every year we have a global conference which is mentioned. So this is the second dimension I wanted to add to reporting and monitoring and our custodianship role. And the third dimension, of course, all over the world upon the request of the member states, we provide technical expertise in order to assist member states in drafting legislation policies and so on and so forth. And in addition, we’ll have a few MOOCs which provide capacity building for access to information professionals who want to increase their knowledge in the field. So this is a quick summary of what UNESCO does in order to cohesively push for the implementation for the expansion of SDGC.


Davide Storti: 16.10.2. Thank you and back to you, Davide. Thank you very much, Marius. I think you mentioned two important things in my view. One is the monitoring of the access information through the SDG 16.10.2, which is one important dimension overall discussed in the WSIS review, particularly how to monitor the progress. Second, you mentioned the International Day for Universal Access to Information, which is, as you said very well, is an example of multi-stakeholder participation, how to bring in all the participants, the actors that are involved in access to information. So talking about professionals of information, I’ll give the floor to Mr. Wang, who is the president of the International Federation for Information Professionals. So, Mr. Wang.


Anthony Wong: Thank you. Thank you, Davide, and thank you to UNESCO for the invitation for this intervention on access to information and knowledge. For those of you who do not know about IFIP, just a quick intro. IFIP was founded by UNESCO in 1960 in Paris, and its mission statement in brief is the responsible development and deployment of ICT. That’s in brief. So we have 13 technical committees looking from AI education, social impact of technologies, communication networking to very hardcore technical subjects on technology. In that 13 technical committees, we have 100 working groups with more than 6,000 scientists and professionals working in those fields from five continents. around the world. So we have an extensive library and publication with Springer. So if you go to our new website, which is ifip.org, there is a main menu with our digital library, which is freely accessible to anyone logging in. There are more than 20,000 full-text documents, journals and publications online, all freely available. So I’m very glad to mention that’s the IFIP professional contribution to this particular UN agenda, which is a very important step forward. So please to go to ifip.org and look at the digital library, which has been there for many years and it’s growing every day. So what I’d like to talk about in my intervention is looking at the topic, access to knowledge, but the, how it was framed is to do with journals, printed books and digital access. And part of the, during the Q&A, if I may, Davidi, to look at with the impact of artificial intelligence, how that’s going to impact this particular action line in terms of his thinking, because we need to look towards the future. Recently, I had this insight when I moderated a chair, a panel for the Sarawak government in Borneo, part of Malaysia. We did a panel with the State Library of Sarawak with the staff and the leaders to look at how AI is going to impact on the way that libraries work, how people access the knowledge and data, considering a lot of data now is born digital, as never printed. So the whole concept of library, we need to change. and evolve the way we catalog our books and index our publication. If we have charged GDP and Lama, do we need to index things and how we index things? And I’m sure that all the 20,000 publication in the IFIP digital library would now be in most, in most large language models that you use. So all that knowledge will be accessible through one of the generative AI models today. So the way we think and how we structure our discussion, I think Davide and UNESCO would need to change because we need to create new policies. I was fortunate to work with you Davide on Monday, when we look at AI and the impact on competencies for teachers and students. I think that is also an agenda that we need to look at in terms of this UNESCO action line, because I can see drastical changes, not only impacting on the jobs of professionals working libraries, but how students and public will access the library in the future. We also have things called virtual reality coming avatars. So if we can have indigenous elders narrating their wisdom and culture online as an avatar, which does not need categorising and indexing in the library, teaching people about their knowledge and wisdom. So I know indigenous things is part of the ambit of UNESCO. So one of the access to information is a great thing to expose all these things to the world. But we also need to look at the risks, because there are some knowledge of indigenous population, which should be sacred and protected rather just freely accessible. So that’s my short intervention. Thank you.


Davide Storti: So thank you very much. I think, I mean, what I hear is that Exactly. It’s the intersection of this action line with the many other action lines. I mean, indigenous knowledge, traditional knowledge, of course, is also part of the action line C8 on culture, cultural diversity, there is multilingualism, etc. So it’s very interesting. So now I would like to go a little bit more deeper into the research and and going to the maybe the diamond open access model. And I would like to give the floor to Mr. David Oliva-Uribe online, who will be telling more about this research work that UNESCO has done recently. Thank you.


David Oliva Uribe: Hello, everybody. And let me share my screen. Good morning in Geneva to all participants. And just let me be sure that you can see my screen. David, can you confirm, please? Yes. Okay, perfect. So thank you very much. So I am a consultant at UNESCO. And my colleagues say in a better glue, she’s the coordinator of the of the portfolio and open solutions. And well, today, I would like just to make a reflection on the importance of scientific communication and diamond open access. In many cases, sometimes it is addressed that scientific communication is like a site action, but but it’s not, it’s actually a very relevant part of the scientific research process. And this has to be value and everything that is related to the communication through scientific journals through books through any kind of communication is very important, because ensures the knowledge is shared, validated and built on. So dissemination and communication of the of the scientific results is very, very important. And we have been having an evolution of the scientific models. I think most of you are familiar that we have been passing from subscription models where it was cost represented a significant barrier and then we were evolutionary to have more access and there arise gold open access where it was improved visibility but the shift cost from the subscription from the libraries to the authors and this is represented to the institutions and at the end to the governments and in the recent years we have been a transition into what it’s called a transformative agreements which yes it expands access it gives a little bit more room for negotiation on the cost for authors but still it is very limited or very difficult for less resourced regions to get access to it so at this very moment we have a very high cost in these three models and now what we are facing is opportunity to move to a new model that it’s called diamond open access that has been around especially in the global south for example in latin america has been already for almost 20 years where it is free for reading free for publishing and of course the cost it is in the infrastructure there is is not free in terms that somebody has to cover the cost but for the users those who read and host who publish is without cost but what do we specifically speak when we say high or low regarding cost just let me give you some quick information so in 2019 the european university association reported that the subscription prices in europe and for the the countries that represents the european university association the cost was around 0.5 billion euros and there was an increase in average more than 3% per year in the cost of subscriptions for many of the big journals. And the forecast at that time for 2023 were that the costs were almost 1.5 billion euros. So in a very short time, the costs of subscription were tripled. And then we spoke about gold open access. And what does it mean for gold open access? That we thought, okay, now there is more opportunity for dissemination that readers can access to these journals. But the cost was, again, passed to the authors. And when we say the author, it’s the institution that financed those researchers. And in a report for the annual APC expenditure, it is stated that between the 2019 and 2023 for gold and hybrid open access, the spend was 8.349 billion euros. So that means 80 times what is the budget, for example, for Horizon Europe Research Program. Just the cost for France, we are talking about this has also increased three times, and it represents 30 million euros. So when we are passing now to the UNESCO consultation on diamond open access, we really wanted to understand. And we launched a consultation, we got around 2,900 responders from 92 member states, and we got more than 3,000 qualitative comments. Let me just very shortly go through some of the key highlights. We got a very rich participation, multilingual, and the responses were submitted in Spanish, English, mostly. But the regional disparities underlined the importance of inclusive outreach and moving forward. Also, we got a very wide response about researchers. librarians, and international actors such as funder policymakers. We noted that the contribution for publishers and academic societies confirmed their participation. They are like intermediate players between the governments and the funding agencies and the researchers. And these patterns underscore the importance of fostering inclusive dialogue, which is very, very important for Diamond Open Access. What we had in the consultation is that we saw that equity, feasibility, and cost-saving were the most frequently experienced benefits. And also, what is very key is that the respondents also addressed that funding and recognition are still persisting the biggest challenges. So this is very important to underscore that institutional engagement really plays a crucial role in alleviating the promoting and implementation of Diamond Open Access. Just a very last slide is that the respondents, they are overwhelmingly expect a global framework and social equity goals are highly valued, particularly multilingual access, participation of underrepresented groups, and reduction of systematic barriers. So together, all these findings, we can really reflect for a call for more inclusive, collaborative, and equitable scholarly communication framework. Just for communication, at the end of this month, we will have the full report that will be published by UNESCO, and you will find all the information on this topic. So I will stop sharing here, and this is my contribution. Thank you very much.


Davide Storti: Thank you very much, David, for this precise insights. So now I would like to maybe open a discussion, if you have any comments from participants. Please, introduce yourself.


Participant: Okay. I don’t know if, okay, yeah, it works. Well, I just wanted to, I didn’t know anything about this Diamond New Access Program, and I honestly think that it’s very enriching, especially for students. I study in France, and I know that from my university, it’s very expensive to access to articles, scientific articles. I know that for PhD students, to be able to access to a specific article can cost about 20 euros, which is very, very expensive, and we actually had to get rid of many subscriptions because of the cost of it. So I’m really glad that this is going on specifically in the Global South, where obviously countries have less wealth and, like, in general, funding for these type of programs. I just had a quick question. How does these, how can we, I don’t know how to explain it. How can countries put this in place? Do we have a specific example of a country that is already implementing this Diamond Open Access, and can I have, like, an example of it? Yes. Shall I respond?


Davide Storti: Yes, please. Thank you.


Participant: Okay. Yes, there are many countries that at the moment are working towards establishing. So how does Diamond Open Access work? In the Global South, for example, in Latin America, it started by universities. Universities, especially in the faculties of social science and humanities, they have this kind of situation and barriers that you mentioned, and what they decide is to get together, to put a common infrastructure, to gather some talent and to establish a journal or a service for Diamond Open Access, which has been really working for more than 20 years. Now, you have institutions like Red Alec, like CLACSO, that they are promoting and giving services to host journals for Diamond Open Access. In the case of Europe, France is one of the most advanced countries establishing Diamond Open Access. And this is receiving direct support from the Ministry of Higher Education, and also through the French National Research Agency, who are placing resources to invest in infrastructure. Because the most important here is that, at the moment, the traditional publishing system is hosted by private companies. And now it’s the role of the governments to establish national policies. For example, in France, they have a national policy for open science, which also includes Diamond Open Access. And through this, they are supporting infrastructure to have hosting of digital services, but they also collecting talent to give the services of editorial reviewing and other roles. So this is what is happening now. And it’s happening, for example, also in Indonesia. Indonesia has more than 6,000 Diamond Open Access journals. So it is common. And now we are focusing on UNESCO to gather all the insights to really have the possibility to permeate or to agree on a global framework. Thank you very much.


Davide Storti: Is there any other question? If otherwise, I’d like to ask a question to Maria about IFLA, you know, how does, you know, we heard about the cost, which is a barrier, which was mentioned just now to the access and how our library is actually coping with that, because I think this is a major issue for libraries.


Maria de Brasdefer: Yes, that is true. It is a big issue that. libraries are dealing with and I think well there’s two main ways I think in which libraries are coping with it and the main one or very traditional ways library sometimes negotiate a lot with publisher it’s in terms of subscriptions and because also this is something that they have been historically doing particularly in some countries they tend to negotiate lower fees for acquiring more amount of content or subscription to scientific journals so this is something they do a lot particularly academic libraries and another thing that I believe also happens very often is through research grants I believe also libraries and institutions they also sometimes establish some of the specific funds also to support open access initiatives and and through those initiatives they sort of like include article processing charges and they also invite researchers to to use those and those are the most common ones but I think the the diamond model is also very interesting and I yeah I wonder if there’s also a lot of libraries who are already benefiting or from that model as well but those are the most two common ways in which they they usually do it


Davide Storti: thank you very much I don’t know if it’s David or Zeynep if you have any idea in terms of responding to Maria’s questions on libraries involvement in this discussion on open access diamond open access yes yes please yes we have to


David Oliva Uribe: close yes yes they are benefiting in different regions for example in the case of Europe there is a new initiative called the European diamond capacity half which is led by different countries and they are liaising directly with with libraries and one of the institutions that is leading this is Science Europe So, maybe this is an initiative that you would like to know. I don’t know, Senepe, do you want to have a final comment?


Zeynep Varoglu: I just wanted to underscore the importance of the ecosystem, of the libraries, the institutions working together. And the fact that is just to bring together also the remarks of Dr. Wang, in the fact that we are really in another space now. And we have here with us, we have IFLA, which has been with UNESCO since 1960, I think. And, I’m sorry, not IFLA, IFIP has been with UNESCO as far as a consultative partner since 1960, if I’m correct. And IFLA is also a very close partner of UNESCO for many years. But the situation has changed. And I think what this discussion has brought out is how all institutions are changing the way that they’re looking at meeting the new challenges. And I think it can’t be business as usual. And that’s what we’ve been saying, basically, for the last 45 minutes. It’s not business as usual. And all of us are working in different ways to be able to really take advantage of the good sides of everything that’s happening. As Dr. Wang pointed out, we’re able to access more information. But there needs to be some sort of structure and it needs to be really in our benefit. So, I think that we’ve had, it’s the voices plus 20 discussion we’re having right now. And I think it is really very clear that access to information has turned into something else. Because we can access more. We can access, we’re not even sure what information we’re accessing sometimes and where it’s coming from. The costs are different. The models are different. The survey that David presented shows that there’s a need for people to access it still in spite of all these developments. And we are in, the game has changed. but everyone is also reacting to this and addressing it. So I think it’s very revelatory.


Davide Storti: Thank you very much, Zeynep. I think that shows again the transversality of this action line impact. For example, you mentioned the issues that I would link to information integrity, which we discussed a couple of days ago in action line 10 about media new dimension. So maybe I’m really sorry we have to conclude because they are very short sessions, but I would like to give a last word to Mr. Wang because he mentioned exactly this future. And I think the most important lesson from this session is our messages for the WSIS plus 20 review. So we should not forget about it. So I invite you also to come to me or send your own views or points or whatever highlights you would like to stress for this review because the WSIS forum is the place where to do that, especially now, particularly for this action line now. Mr. Wang.


Anthony Wong: Thank you, Davide. Just quickly, yesterday I was at a forum here and it was mentioned that China is introducing AI education to primary and secondary schools. So if you think about what the students are gonna do, they’re not gonna access the library for your publication. They’re gonna use AI to find information that they need to do what they’re supposed to be doing. So I urge all the library and the association and people making policies to start thinking about policies for the children coming up rather than for the oldies who are used to the old traditional way. That’s all I’d like to comment. I is happy to help. I use, if you don’t know, I used to work for five years with Thomson Reuters. and I was instrumental in doing their first digital transformation from paper to digital. So I’m very happy and IFIP is very happy to contribute to that discussion. Thank you.


Davide Storti: Thank you very much for your participation in this session which is now over. Thank you so much. Thank you to the speakers and I’d like to thank also my colleagues online, particularly Zeynep Varoglu and Marius for their organization of this session. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Have a good day. Bye-bye. Thank you. Goodbye. Bye-bye.


Z

Zeynep Varoglu

Speech speed

127 words per minute

Speech length

891 words

Speech time

419 seconds

Access to scientific knowledge is a global necessity that drives innovation and sustainable development

Explanation

Varoglu argues that access to scientific knowledge is not a luxury but an essential requirement for global progress. She emphasizes that it supports innovation, sustainable development, and informs public policy decisions.


Evidence

UNESCO sees access to knowledge as a public good, yet access remains deeply unequal with much publicly funded research locked behind expensive paywalls


Major discussion point

Access to Information as a Universal Right and Public Good


Topics

Development | Human rights principles


Agreed with

– Marius Lukosiunas
– Davide Storti

Agreed on

Access to information is a fundamental right and public good essential for development


Disagreed with

– Anthony Wong
– Maria de Brasdefer

Disagreed on

Approach to indigenous knowledge protection vs. open access


Access to information is recognized as a universal right fundamental to inclusive development under WSIS Action Line D3

Explanation

This argument positions access to information as a fundamental human right that is essential for inclusive development. It connects this principle to the formal WSIS framework that recognizes these rights.


Evidence

WSIS Action Line D3 recognizes access to information and knowledge as universal rights and urges stakeholders to promote affordable public access through open archives and scientific information


Major discussion point

Access to Information as a Universal Right and Public Good


Topics

Human rights principles | Development


Agreed with

– Marius Lukosiunas
– Davide Storti

Agreed on

Access to information is a fundamental right and public good essential for development


Current access remains deeply unequal with publicly funded research locked behind expensive paywalls, particularly affecting the Global South

Explanation

Varoglu highlights the inequality in access to scientific knowledge, where research funded by public money is still restricted by expensive paywalls. This particularly disadvantages researchers and institutions in developing countries.


Evidence

Much scientific knowledge, especially when publicly funded, remains locked behind expensive paywalls out of reach for many researchers and institutions, particularly in the global South


Major discussion point

Diamond Open Access as Solution to Knowledge Inequality


Topics

Development | Digital access


Agreed with

– David Oliva Uribe
– Participant

Agreed on

Current access to scientific knowledge is inequitable and costly, creating barriers particularly for developing regions


Diamond open access allows free publishing and reading based on public funding and community-driven frameworks

Explanation

This argument presents diamond open access as a solution that enables both authors to publish and readers to access research without cost barriers. It emphasizes that this model is based on public funding and community-driven, multilingual, non-commercial frameworks.


Evidence

Diamond-open access turns aspiration to action, building a knowledge ecosystem rooted in equity, openness, and sustainability


Major discussion point

Diamond Open Access as Solution to Knowledge Inequality


Topics

Development | Digital access


Agreed with

– David Oliva Uribe

Agreed on

Diamond open access offers a viable solution to knowledge inequality


M

Marius Lukosiunas

Speech speed

108 words per minute

Speech length

753 words

Speech time

416 seconds

UNESCO monitors global progress on access to information frameworks through SDG 16.10.2 as custodian agency

Explanation

Lukosiunas explains UNESCO’s role as the custodian agency for SDG 16.10.2, which focuses on monitoring the adoption and implementation of access to information legal guarantees. This involves both evaluating the current situation and providing recommendations to member states.


Evidence

UNESCO launches annual questionnaires to member states, starting with 62 countries responding in 2019 and reaching 125 countries in 2024


Major discussion point

Access to Information as a Universal Right and Public Good


Topics

Human rights principles | Legal and regulatory


139 countries have adopted access to information laws, showing fundamental understanding that the right to information can be best protected by law

Explanation

This argument demonstrates the widespread recognition among nations that legal frameworks are the most effective way to protect the right to information. It shows both the progress made and the fundamental understanding of this right’s importance.


Evidence

As of end of 2024, 139 countries have adopted access to information laws, clearly showing fundamental understanding among member states


Major discussion point

Access to Information as a Universal Right and Public Good


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Human rights principles


Agreed with

– Zeynep Varoglu
– Davide Storti

Agreed on

Access to information is a fundamental right and public good essential for development


UNESCO promotes adoption of access to information laws through International Day of Universal Access to Information with over 124 national celebrations

Explanation

Lukosiunas describes UNESCO’s promotional activities for access to information, centered around an annual international day. This involves extensive global and national celebrations that bring together various stakeholders to discuss different aspects of access to information.


Evidence

UNESCO celebrates International Day of Universal Access to Information on September 28th with more than 124 national celebrations and annual global conferences involving information commissioners, journalists, media, academia, and libraries


Major discussion point

Implementation and Policy Framework Challenges


Topics

Human rights principles | Legal and regulatory


D

David Oliva Uribe

Speech speed

136 words per minute

Speech length

1029 words

Speech time

452 seconds

Subscription costs have tripled in recent years, with European universities spending 1.5 billion euros by 2023

Explanation

Oliva Uribe presents concrete financial data showing the dramatic increase in subscription costs for academic journals. He demonstrates how these costs have escalated rapidly, creating significant financial burden for educational institutions.


Evidence

European University Association reported subscription prices of 0.5 billion euros in 2019 with 3% annual increases, forecasting costs of almost 1.5 billion euros by 2023


Major discussion point

Diamond Open Access as Solution to Knowledge Inequality


Topics

Economic | Development


Agreed with

– Zeynep Varoglu
– Participant

Agreed on

Current access to scientific knowledge is inequitable and costly, creating barriers particularly for developing regions


Gold open access shifted costs from libraries to authors, representing 8.349 billion euros globally between 2019-2023

Explanation

This argument explains how the gold open access model, while improving access for readers, simply transferred the financial burden from libraries to authors and their institutions. The scale of this cost transfer is enormous, representing billions in expenditure.


Evidence

Annual APC expenditure report shows 8.349 billion euros spent on gold and hybrid open access between 2019-2023, which is 80 times the budget for Horizon Europe Research Program


Major discussion point

Diamond Open Access as Solution to Knowledge Inequality


Topics

Economic | Development


Agreed with

– Zeynep Varoglu
– Participant

Agreed on

Current access to scientific knowledge is inequitable and costly, creating barriers particularly for developing regions


UNESCO’s global consultation with 2,900 stakeholders from 92 countries shows equity, feasibility, and cost-saving as main benefits of diamond open access

Explanation

Oliva Uribe presents findings from UNESCO’s comprehensive consultation on diamond open access, highlighting the key benefits identified by stakeholders worldwide. The consultation demonstrates broad international interest and support for this model.


Evidence

UNESCO consultation received around 2,900 responses from 92 member states with more than 3,000 qualitative comments, showing multilingual participation and wide response from researchers, librarians, and policymakers


Major discussion point

Diamond Open Access as Solution to Knowledge Inequality


Topics

Development | Digital access


Agreed with

– Zeynep Varoglu

Agreed on

Diamond open access offers a viable solution to knowledge inequality


Countries like France, Indonesia, and Latin American nations are successfully implementing diamond open access through government support and university collaboration

Explanation

This argument provides concrete examples of successful diamond open access implementation across different regions. It shows how government support and institutional collaboration can make this model work effectively.


Evidence

France has national policy for open science with Ministry support; Indonesia has over 6,000 Diamond Open Access journals; Latin America has institutions like Red Alec and CLACSO providing services for over 20 years


Major discussion point

Implementation and Policy Framework Challenges


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory


Agreed with

– Zeynep Varoglu

Agreed on

Diamond open access offers a viable solution to knowledge inequality


Funding and recognition remain the biggest challenges for diamond open access implementation

Explanation

Despite the benefits, Oliva Uribe identifies the persistent challenges that hinder diamond open access adoption. These challenges relate to securing sustainable funding and ensuring academic recognition for publications in this model.


Evidence

UNESCO consultation respondents identified funding and recognition as the most frequently mentioned persisting challenges


Major discussion point

Implementation and Policy Framework Challenges


Topics

Development | Economic


There is overwhelming expectation for a global framework with focus on multilingual access and participation of underrepresented groups

Explanation

The consultation results show strong demand for coordinated global action on diamond open access. Stakeholders particularly emphasize the need for inclusive approaches that address language barriers and ensure participation from marginalized communities.


Evidence

Consultation respondents overwhelmingly expect a global framework and highly value social equity goals, particularly multilingual access, participation of underrepresented groups, and reduction of systematic barriers


Major discussion point

Implementation and Policy Framework Challenges


Topics

Development | Multilingualism | Human rights principles


P

Participant

Speech speed

142 words per minute

Speech length

479 words

Speech time

201 seconds

High subscription costs create significant barriers for students, with individual articles costing up to 20 euros

Explanation

A student participant provides personal testimony about the financial barriers faced in accessing academic research. They describe how expensive article access costs force universities to cancel subscriptions and create hardship for PhD students.


Evidence

Student studying in France reports that PhD students face costs of about 20 euros per article, and universities have had to cancel many subscriptions due to high costs


Major discussion point

Diamond Open Access as Solution to Knowledge Inequality


Topics

Economic | Development | Online education


Agreed with

– Zeynep Varoglu
– David Oliva Uribe

Agreed on

Current access to scientific knowledge is inequitable and costly, creating barriers particularly for developing regions


M

Maria de Brasdefer

Speech speed

152 words per minute

Speech length

920 words

Speech time

362 seconds

Libraries historically provide public access to information, particularly for populations without connectivity or private access

Explanation

Brasdefer emphasizes the continuing importance of libraries in providing public access to information, especially as most access moves online. She argues that libraries serve populations who lack private access or connectivity.


Evidence

IFLA advocates for the importance of public access to information despite the existence of private access, particularly for populations who don’t have access to connectivity


Major discussion point

Access to Information as a Universal Right and Public Good


Topics

Digital access | Development


Agreed with

– Anthony Wong

Agreed on

Libraries play a crucial role in providing equitable access to information


Libraries operate on open access models and remove costly barriers like subscriptions and paywalls

Explanation

This argument positions libraries as natural allies of open access initiatives since they already work to remove financial barriers to information access. Libraries traditionally provide free access to resources that would otherwise require payment.


Evidence

Public and academic libraries have a big role in promoting scientific and open knowledge by making information accessible to everyone, removing costly barriers like subscriptions and paywalls


Major discussion point

Role of Libraries and Infrastructure in Knowledge Access


Topics

Digital access | Development


Agreed with

– Anthony Wong

Agreed on

Libraries play a crucial role in providing equitable access to information


Libraries can support diamond open access by maintaining open repositories and guiding researchers toward open access platforms

Explanation

Brasdefer outlines specific ways libraries can contribute to diamond open access implementation. This includes both technical infrastructure support and educational guidance for researchers.


Evidence

Libraries can support diamond open access by maintaining open repositories, supporting journals that use the model, guiding local researchers toward open access platforms, and teaching open science skills including Creative Commons licensing


Major discussion point

Role of Libraries and Infrastructure in Knowledge Access


Topics

Digital access | Online education


Disagreed with

– Anthony Wong

Disagreed on

Future relevance of traditional library systems vs. AI-powered access


Libraries negotiate with publishers for lower subscription fees and establish funds through research grants to support open access initiatives

Explanation

This argument describes the practical strategies libraries currently use to cope with high subscription costs. It shows how libraries actively work to reduce barriers through negotiation and funding mechanisms.


Evidence

Libraries negotiate with publishers for lower fees when acquiring more content or subscriptions, and establish specific funds through research grants to support open access initiatives including article processing charges


Major discussion point

Role of Libraries and Infrastructure in Knowledge Access


Topics

Economic | Development


Access to information laws should specifically mention libraries rather than burying them under broad ‘community spaces’ terminology

Explanation

Brasdefer argues for explicit recognition of libraries in access to information legislation. She contends that vague references to ‘community spaces’ can diminish libraries’ specific role and impact their effectiveness.


Evidence

While many countries have embedded community spaces like libraries in access to information laws, libraries are often not specifically mentioned but are referred to broadly as community spaces, which can get in the way


Major discussion point

Implementation and Policy Framework Challenges


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Human rights principles


Libraries play a role in promoting multilingual knowledge and preserving traditional and indigenous knowledge in communities

Explanation

This argument highlights libraries’ cultural preservation function, particularly for traditional and indigenous knowledge systems. Brasdefer suggests libraries fulfill community needs that aren’t met by other institutions.


Evidence

Libraries are involved in promotion of multilingual knowledge and communities research and preservation of traditional and indigenous knowledge, fulfilling a need that exists in the community


Major discussion point

Protecting Indigenous and Sacred Knowledge


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism


Disagreed with

– Anthony Wong
– Zeynep Varoglu

Disagreed on

Approach to indigenous knowledge protection vs. open access


A

Anthony Wong

Speech speed

135 words per minute

Speech length

803 words

Speech time

356 seconds

IFIP provides free access to over 20,000 full-text documents through their digital library at ifip.org

Explanation

Wong presents IFIP’s contribution to open access by providing a concrete example of free digital access to academic resources. This demonstrates how professional organizations can support open access principles through their own platforms.


Evidence

IFIP digital library at ifip.org contains more than 20,000 full-text documents, journals and publications online, all freely available to anyone logging in


Major discussion point

Role of Libraries and Infrastructure in Knowledge Access


Topics

Digital access | Development


Agreed with

– Maria de Brasdefer

Agreed on

Libraries play a crucial role in providing equitable access to information


AI is drastically changing how people access knowledge, with most publications now available through large language models

Explanation

Wong argues that artificial intelligence is fundamentally transforming information access patterns. He suggests that traditional library and publication access methods are being superseded by AI-powered search and retrieval systems.


Evidence

All 20,000 publications in the IFIP digital library would now be in most large language models, making that knowledge accessible through generative AI models


Major discussion point

Impact of Artificial Intelligence on Information Access


Topics

Development | Digital access


Traditional library indexing and cataloging methods need to evolve considering AI capabilities like ChatGPT

Explanation

This argument calls for fundamental changes in how libraries organize and provide access to information. Wong suggests that AI capabilities like ChatGPT may make traditional cataloging and indexing methods obsolete.


Evidence

Wong moderated a panel with Sarawak State Library staff discussing how AI will impact library work and data access, questioning whether traditional indexing is still needed with ChatGPT and Llama


Major discussion point

Impact of Artificial Intelligence on Information Access


Topics

Development | Digital standards


Disagreed with

– Maria de Brasdefer

Disagreed on

Future relevance of traditional library systems vs. AI-powered access


China is introducing AI education in primary and secondary schools, suggesting future students will use AI rather than traditional library access

Explanation

Wong uses China’s educational policy as evidence of a generational shift in information access patterns. He argues that future students will primarily use AI tools rather than traditional library resources for their research needs.


Evidence

China is introducing AI education to primary and secondary schools, and students will use AI to find information rather than access libraries for publications


Major discussion point

Impact of Artificial Intelligence on Information Access


Topics

Online education | Development


Virtual reality and avatars can provide new ways to access indigenous knowledge without traditional cataloging

Explanation

Wong presents emerging technologies as alternatives to traditional knowledge preservation and access methods. He suggests that VR and avatars can make indigenous knowledge accessible in ways that don’t require conventional library cataloging systems.


Evidence

Indigenous elders can narrate their wisdom and culture online as avatars, which does not need categorizing and indexing in libraries


Major discussion point

Impact of Artificial Intelligence on Information Access


Topics

Cultural diversity | Development


Some indigenous knowledge should be sacred and protected rather than freely accessible, requiring careful balance in access policies

Explanation

Wong raises important ethical considerations about open access, arguing that not all knowledge should be freely available. He specifically highlights the need to protect sacred indigenous knowledge from inappropriate access or use.


Evidence

There are some knowledge of indigenous population which should be sacred and protected rather than just freely accessible


Major discussion point

Protecting Indigenous and Sacred Knowledge


Topics

Cultural diversity | Human rights principles


Disagreed with

– Zeynep Varoglu
– Maria de Brasdefer

Disagreed on

Approach to indigenous knowledge protection vs. open access


D

Davide Storti

Speech speed

132 words per minute

Speech length

946 words

Speech time

429 seconds

Access to information is a transversal action line that is fundamental to achieving other WSIS action lines

Explanation

Storti argues that access to information and knowledge is a cross-cutting issue that underpins all other WSIS action lines. He emphasizes that without access to information and data, it would be impossible to achieve the objectives of other action lines.


Evidence

You can’t maybe achieve anything of the other action lines without access to information and data


Major discussion point

Access to Information as a Universal Right and Public Good


Topics

Human rights principles | Development


Agreed with

– Zeynep Varoglu
– Marius Lukosiunas

Agreed on

Access to information is a fundamental right and public good essential for development


The WSIS action line on access to information involves multiple dimensions including people, infrastructure, laws, and various enabling factors

Explanation

Storti highlights that making information accessible requires a comprehensive approach involving different components. He emphasizes that access to information is not just about technology but involves legal frameworks, human resources, and infrastructure working together.


Evidence

The different dimensions that are involved in making information accessible from the people, the infrastructure, the laws, the various dimensions that are enabled living in this to happen


Major discussion point

Implementation and Policy Framework Challenges


Topics

Legal and regulatory | Infrastructure | Development


Multi-stakeholder participation is essential for access to information initiatives, as demonstrated by the International Day for Universal Access to Information

Explanation

Storti emphasizes the importance of bringing together all relevant actors and participants involved in access to information. He uses the International Day for Universal Access to Information as an example of successful multi-stakeholder engagement in this field.


Evidence

The International Day for Universal Access to Information is an example of multi-stakeholder participation, how to bring in all the participants, the actors that are involved in access to information


Major discussion point

Implementation and Policy Framework Challenges


Topics

Human rights principles | Development


The intersection of access to information with other action lines creates new challenges and opportunities, particularly regarding indigenous knowledge and cultural diversity

Explanation

Storti recognizes that access to information intersects with multiple other WSIS action lines, creating complex relationships. He specifically mentions how indigenous and traditional knowledge connects to cultural diversity and multilingualism action lines.


Evidence

Indigenous knowledge, traditional knowledge, of course, is also part of the action line C8 on culture, cultural diversity, there is multilingualism, etc.


Major discussion point

Protecting Indigenous and Sacred Knowledge


Topics

Cultural diversity | Multilingualism | Human rights principles


The WSIS Plus 20 review requires new approaches because the landscape of access to information has fundamentally changed

Explanation

Storti acknowledges that the context for access to information has evolved significantly since the original WSIS framework. He emphasizes that traditional approaches may no longer be sufficient and that new policies and frameworks are needed for the WSIS Plus 20 review.


Evidence

We should not forget about the WSIS plus 20 review and the most important lesson from this session is our messages for the WSIS plus 20 review


Major discussion point

Impact of Artificial Intelligence on Information Access


Topics

Development | Legal and regulatory


Agreements

Agreement points

Access to information is a fundamental right and public good essential for development

Speakers

– Zeynep Varoglu
– Marius Lukosiunas
– Davide Storti

Arguments

Access to scientific knowledge is a global necessity that drives innovation and sustainable development


Access to information is recognized as a universal right fundamental to inclusive development under WSIS Action Line D3


139 countries have adopted access to information laws, showing fundamental understanding that the right to information can be best protected by law


Access to information is a transversal action line that is fundamental to achieving other WSIS action lines


Summary

All speakers agree that access to information is not just beneficial but essential – it’s a fundamental human right that drives innovation, sustainable development, and is necessary for achieving other development goals. The widespread adoption of access to information laws by 139 countries demonstrates global recognition of this principle.


Topics

Human rights principles | Development


Current access to scientific knowledge is inequitable and costly, creating barriers particularly for developing regions

Speakers

– Zeynep Varoglu
– David Oliva Uribe
– Participant

Arguments

Current access remains deeply unequal with publicly funded research locked behind expensive paywalls, particularly affecting the Global South


Subscription costs have tripled in recent years, with European universities spending 1.5 billion euros by 2023


Gold open access shifted costs from libraries to authors, representing 8.349 billion euros globally between 2019-2023


High subscription costs create significant barriers for students, with individual articles costing up to 20 euros


Summary

There is strong consensus that the current system of academic publishing creates significant financial barriers that disproportionately affect developing countries, students, and institutions with limited resources. The costs have escalated dramatically, making access to publicly funded research increasingly difficult.


Topics

Development | Economic | Digital access


Diamond open access offers a viable solution to knowledge inequality

Speakers

– Zeynep Varoglu
– David Oliva Uribe

Arguments

Diamond open access allows free publishing and reading based on public funding and community-driven frameworks


UNESCO’s global consultation with 2,900 stakeholders from 92 countries shows equity, feasibility, and cost-saving as main benefits of diamond open access


Countries like France, Indonesia, and Latin American nations are successfully implementing diamond open access through government support and university collaboration


Summary

Both speakers strongly advocate for diamond open access as a solution that enables free publishing and reading while being based on public funding and community-driven frameworks. The UNESCO consultation provides evidence of broad international support for this model.


Topics

Development | Digital access


Libraries play a crucial role in providing equitable access to information

Speakers

– Maria de Brasdefer
– Anthony Wong

Arguments

Libraries historically provide public access to information, particularly for populations without connectivity or private access


Libraries operate on open access models and remove costly barriers like subscriptions and paywalls


IFIP provides free access to over 20,000 full-text documents through their digital library at ifip.org


Summary

Both speakers recognize libraries and library-like institutions as essential infrastructure for providing equitable access to information, particularly for underserved populations. They demonstrate this through both historical context and concrete examples of free access provision.


Topics

Digital access | Development


Similar viewpoints

Both speakers see libraries and educational institutions as key implementers of diamond open access, with libraries providing both infrastructure support and educational guidance while countries demonstrate successful implementation through institutional collaboration.

Speakers

– Maria de Brasdefer
– David Oliva Uribe

Arguments

Libraries can support diamond open access by maintaining open repositories and guiding researchers toward open access platforms


Countries like France, Indonesia, and Latin American nations are successfully implementing diamond open access through government support and university collaboration


Topics

Development | Digital access


Both speakers acknowledge that technological changes, particularly AI, are fundamentally transforming how information is accessed and that institutions must adapt their approaches to meet these new challenges.

Speakers

– Anthony Wong
– Zeynep Varoglu

Arguments

AI is drastically changing how people access knowledge, with most publications now available through large language models


The situation has changed and all institutions are changing the way that they’re looking at meeting the new challenges


Topics

Development | Digital access


Both speakers emphasize the importance of multi-stakeholder engagement in promoting access to information, using the International Day for Universal Access to Information as a successful example of bringing together diverse actors.

Speakers

– Marius Lukosiunas
– Davide Storti

Arguments

UNESCO promotes adoption of access to information laws through International Day of Universal Access to Information with over 124 national celebrations


Multi-stakeholder participation is essential for access to information initiatives, as demonstrated by the International Day for Universal Access to Information


Topics

Human rights principles | Development


Unexpected consensus

Need to protect certain types of knowledge from open access

Speakers

– Anthony Wong
– Maria de Brasdefer

Arguments

Some indigenous knowledge should be sacred and protected rather than freely accessible, requiring careful balance in access policies


Libraries play a role in promoting multilingual knowledge and preserving traditional and indigenous knowledge in communities


Explanation

Despite the overall push for open access, both speakers recognize that some knowledge, particularly indigenous and traditional knowledge, requires protection rather than open sharing. This represents a nuanced understanding that open access principles must be balanced with cultural sensitivity and respect for sacred knowledge.


Topics

Cultural diversity | Human rights principles


Fundamental transformation needed in traditional information access methods due to AI

Speakers

– Anthony Wong
– Davide Storti

Arguments

Traditional library indexing and cataloging methods need to evolve considering AI capabilities like ChatGPT


The WSIS Plus 20 review requires new approaches because the landscape of access to information has fundamentally changed


Explanation

Both speakers, despite coming from different perspectives (technology and policy), agree that traditional approaches to information access are becoming obsolete and that fundamental changes are needed. This consensus on the need for transformation is significant given their different professional backgrounds.


Topics

Development | Digital access


Overall assessment

Summary

The speakers demonstrate strong consensus on core principles: access to information as a fundamental right, the inequity of current systems, the promise of diamond open access, and the crucial role of libraries. There is also emerging agreement on the need to adapt to technological changes while protecting sensitive knowledge.


Consensus level

High level of consensus with constructive alignment. The speakers complement each other’s perspectives rather than conflict, creating a comprehensive view that spans legal frameworks, practical implementation, technological adaptation, and cultural sensitivity. This strong consensus suggests favorable conditions for collaborative policy development and implementation of diamond open access initiatives.


Differences

Different viewpoints

Approach to indigenous knowledge protection vs. open access

Speakers

– Anthony Wong
– Zeynep Varoglu
– Maria de Brasdefer

Arguments

Some indigenous knowledge should be sacred and protected rather than freely accessible, requiring careful balance in access policies


Access to scientific knowledge is a global necessity that drives innovation and sustainable development


Libraries play a role in promoting multilingual knowledge and preserving traditional and indigenous knowledge in communities


Summary

Wong argues for protecting sacred indigenous knowledge from open access, while Varoglu advocates for broad access to knowledge as a necessity, and Brasdefer sees libraries as promoters of indigenous knowledge access without addressing protection concerns


Topics

Cultural diversity | Human rights principles | Development


Future relevance of traditional library systems vs. AI-powered access

Speakers

– Anthony Wong
– Maria de Brasdefer

Arguments

Traditional library indexing and cataloging methods need to evolve considering AI capabilities like ChatGPT


Libraries can support diamond open access by maintaining open repositories and guiding researchers toward open access platforms


Summary

Wong questions the continued relevance of traditional library cataloging and indexing in the AI era, while Brasdefer emphasizes libraries’ ongoing role in supporting open access through traditional methods


Topics

Development | Digital access | Digital standards


Unexpected differences

Generational shift in information access methods

Speakers

– Anthony Wong
– Maria de Brasdefer

Arguments

China is introducing AI education in primary and secondary schools, suggesting future students will use AI rather than traditional library access


Libraries historically provide public access to information, particularly for populations without connectivity or private access


Explanation

Unexpected disagreement on whether traditional library services remain relevant for future generations, with Wong arguing for AI-first approaches while Brasdefer maintains libraries’ continued importance for underserved populations


Topics

Online education | Development | Digital access


Overall assessment

Summary

The discussion showed relatively low levels of fundamental disagreement, with most speakers aligned on core principles of open access and information rights. Main disagreements centered on implementation approaches, the balance between openness and protection of sacred knowledge, and the future role of traditional institutions in an AI-dominated landscape.


Disagreement level

Low to moderate disagreement level with significant implications for policy development – while speakers agree on goals, different approaches to implementation could lead to fragmented or conflicting policies, particularly regarding indigenous knowledge protection and the evolving role of libraries in digital transformation


Partial agreements

Partial agreements

Similar viewpoints

Both speakers see libraries and educational institutions as key implementers of diamond open access, with libraries providing both infrastructure support and educational guidance while countries demonstrate successful implementation through institutional collaboration.

Speakers

– Maria de Brasdefer
– David Oliva Uribe

Arguments

Libraries can support diamond open access by maintaining open repositories and guiding researchers toward open access platforms


Countries like France, Indonesia, and Latin American nations are successfully implementing diamond open access through government support and university collaboration


Topics

Development | Digital access


Both speakers acknowledge that technological changes, particularly AI, are fundamentally transforming how information is accessed and that institutions must adapt their approaches to meet these new challenges.

Speakers

– Anthony Wong
– Zeynep Varoglu

Arguments

AI is drastically changing how people access knowledge, with most publications now available through large language models


The situation has changed and all institutions are changing the way that they’re looking at meeting the new challenges


Topics

Development | Digital access


Both speakers emphasize the importance of multi-stakeholder engagement in promoting access to information, using the International Day for Universal Access to Information as a successful example of bringing together diverse actors.

Speakers

– Marius Lukosiunas
– Davide Storti

Arguments

UNESCO promotes adoption of access to information laws through International Day of Universal Access to Information with over 124 national celebrations


Multi-stakeholder participation is essential for access to information initiatives, as demonstrated by the International Day for Universal Access to Information


Topics

Human rights principles | Development


Takeaways

Key takeaways

Access to information is a universal right and public good that requires multi-stakeholder collaboration between governments, libraries, institutions, and international organizations


Diamond open access model offers a viable solution to knowledge inequality by providing free publishing and reading access, contrasting with expensive subscription and gold open access models that create barriers especially for the Global South


Current publishing costs are unsustainable – subscription costs have tripled in recent years with European universities spending 1.5 billion euros by 2023, while gold open access represents 8.349 billion euros globally


Libraries play a crucial intermediary role in democratizing access to information, particularly for underserved populations without connectivity, and can support diamond open access through repositories and researcher guidance


Artificial intelligence is fundamentally changing how people access knowledge, requiring new policies and approaches as traditional library methods become less relevant for future generations


UNESCO’s global consultation with 2,900 stakeholders from 92 countries demonstrates strong international support for diamond open access, with equity, feasibility, and cost-saving identified as main benefits


139 countries have adopted access to information laws, showing global recognition of the legal framework needed to protect information rights


The intersection of access to information with other issues like indigenous knowledge protection, multilingual access, and digital literacy requires careful balance and inclusive policies


Resolutions and action items

UNESCO will publish the full report on diamond open access consultation findings at the end of the month


Participants are invited to contribute views and highlights for the WSIS+20 review process


IFIP offers to contribute to policy discussions on AI’s impact on information access, drawing on their experience with digital transformation


UNESCO continues monitoring global progress through SDG 16.10.2 with annual questionnaires to member states


Libraries should continue supporting diamond open access by maintaining open repositories and guiding researchers toward open access platforms


Unresolved issues

How to balance open access with protection of sacred and indigenous knowledge that should remain restricted


Funding and recognition challenges for diamond open access implementation remain the biggest obstacles


Need for new policies to address how AI will impact traditional library and information access methods


How to ensure access to information laws specifically mention libraries rather than burying them under broad ‘community spaces’ terminology


How to create sustainable global framework for diamond open access while addressing regional disparities


How to prepare education systems and policies for students who will primarily use AI rather than traditional library access methods


Suggested compromises

Develop inclusive dialogue between all stakeholders including publishers, academic societies, governments, and funding agencies as intermediate players


Create national policies for open science that include diamond open access support, as demonstrated by France’s approach


Establish collaborative infrastructure through university partnerships and government support, following successful models in Latin America and Indonesia


Balance proactive disclosure and open data policies with protection of sensitive indigenous knowledge through careful policy design


Combine traditional library services with new AI-enabled access methods to serve both current and future user needs


Thought provoking comments

Access to scientific knowledge is not a luxury, it’s a global necessity. It drives innovation, supports sustainable development, and informs public policy. At UNESCO, we see access to knowledge as a public good, yet today access remains deeply unequal.

Speaker

Zeynep Varoglu


Reason

This opening statement reframes the entire discussion by establishing access to knowledge as a fundamental right rather than a privilege. It introduces the concept of knowledge as a ‘public good’ and immediately highlights the inequality problem, setting up the moral and practical framework for the entire session.


Impact

This comment established the foundational premise for all subsequent discussions. It shifted the conversation from technical considerations to ethical imperatives, influencing how other speakers framed their contributions around equity and accessibility rather than just technological solutions.


Recently, I had this insight when I moderated a chair, a panel for the Sarawak government in Borneo… If we have charged GDP and Lama, do we need to index things and how we index things? And I’m sure that all the 20,000 publication in the IFIP digital library would now be in most, in most large language models that you use.

Speaker

Anthony Wong


Reason

This comment introduced a paradigm-shifting perspective by questioning the fundamental assumptions about how knowledge will be accessed in the AI era. Wong challenged the traditional library and indexing models, suggesting that AI might make current access mechanisms obsolete.


Impact

This intervention fundamentally altered the discussion’s trajectory from focusing on current access models to considering future disruptions. It prompted other speakers to acknowledge that ‘the game has changed’ and forced a reconsideration of traditional approaches to knowledge access and preservation.


We also have things called virtual reality coming avatars. So if we can have indigenous elders narrating their wisdom and culture online as an avatar, which does not need categorising and indexing in the library… But we also need to look at the risks, because there are some knowledge of indigenous population, which should be sacred and protected rather just freely accessible.

Speaker

Anthony Wong


Reason

This comment introduced crucial complexity by highlighting the tension between open access principles and cultural sensitivity. It challenged the assumption that all knowledge should be freely accessible, introducing ethical considerations about sacred and protected knowledge.


Impact

This observation added a critical dimension to the discussion, forcing participants to consider that access to information isn’t just about removing barriers but also about respecting cultural boundaries. It connected the technical discussion to broader issues of cultural preservation and indigenous rights.


In 2019 the european university association reported that the subscription prices in europe… were around 0.5 billion euros… And the forecast at that time for 2023 were that the costs were almost 1.5 billion euros. So in a very short time, the costs of subscription were tripled.

Speaker

David Oliva Uribe


Reason

This comment provided concrete, shocking data that quantified the scale of the access problem. The dramatic cost escalation (tripling in just four years) made the abstract concept of ‘expensive access’ tangible and urgent.


Impact

These statistics gave weight and urgency to the theoretical discussions about diamond open access. The concrete numbers helped justify why alternative models are necessary and provided a compelling economic argument that resonated with the student participant who later shared their personal experience with expensive article access.


I just had a quick question… I study in France, and I know that from my university, it’s very expensive to access to articles, scientific articles. I know that for PhD students, to be able to access to a specific article can cost about 20 euros, which is very, very expensive.

Speaker

Participant (Student)


Reason

This personal testimony from a student provided a human face to the statistical data presented earlier. It demonstrated the real-world impact of access barriers on the next generation of researchers and scholars.


Impact

This intervention grounded the entire discussion in lived experience, making the abstract policy discussions concrete and personal. It validated the urgency of the problems being discussed and demonstrated that the issues affect real people in their daily academic work.


I think it can’t be business as usual. And that’s what we’ve been saying, basically, for the last 45 minutes. It’s not business as usual… The game has changed. but everyone is also reacting to this and addressing it.

Speaker

Zeynep Varoglu


Reason

This synthesizing comment captured the essence of the entire discussion, acknowledging that traditional approaches to knowledge access are no longer sufficient in the digital age. It recognized both the disruption and the adaptive responses occurring across institutions.


Impact

This comment served as a powerful synthesis that tied together all the previous discussions about AI disruption, cost challenges, and institutional changes. It provided a framework for understanding the session as being about fundamental transformation rather than incremental improvements.


Overall assessment

These key comments collectively transformed what could have been a technical discussion about publishing models into a comprehensive examination of the future of knowledge access. The session began with Varoglu’s moral framing of access as a public good, was disrupted by Wong’s AI-focused future vision, grounded by Oliva Uribe’s economic data and the student’s personal experience, and synthesized by Varoglu’s acknowledgment of fundamental change. The most impactful dynamic was how Wong’s AI-centric perspective forced all participants to reconsider their assumptions about traditional knowledge access mechanisms, while the economic data and personal testimony provided urgency and human relevance to these futuristic considerations. The discussion evolved from presenting solutions (diamond open access) to questioning whether current frameworks will remain relevant, ultimately concluding that the entire ecosystem of knowledge access is in transformation.


Follow-up questions

How can countries implement Diamond Open Access and what are specific examples of countries already implementing it?

Speaker

Participant (student from France)


Explanation

The participant wanted concrete examples and implementation pathways for Diamond Open Access, which was answered with examples from Latin America, France, and Indonesia


How are libraries benefiting from the Diamond Open Access model?

Speaker

Maria de Brasdefer (IFLA)


Explanation

Maria wondered about libraries’ involvement and benefits from Diamond Open Access, which was partially addressed by David Oliva-Uribe mentioning the European Diamond Capacity initiative


How will artificial intelligence impact access to information and knowledge, particularly regarding libraries and traditional information access methods?

Speaker

Anthony Wong (IFIP)


Explanation

Wong raised concerns about how AI will fundamentally change how people access information, suggesting the need for new policies focused on future generations rather than traditional methods


How should policies be developed for children who will use AI for information access rather than traditional library systems?

Speaker

Anthony Wong (IFIP)


Explanation

Wong emphasized the need to create policies for students who will primarily use AI tools rather than traditional library resources, citing China’s introduction of AI education in primary and secondary schools


How can indigenous knowledge be protected while still promoting access to information?

Speaker

Anthony Wong (IFIP)


Explanation

Wong highlighted the tension between open access principles and the need to protect sacred indigenous knowledge that should not be freely accessible


What are the key messages and recommendations for the WSIS+20 review regarding access to information?

Speaker

Davide Storti (UNESCO)


Explanation

Storti called for participants to provide input for the WSIS+20 review, indicating this as an important area requiring further input and research


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Safe Smart Cities and Climate Frustration

Safe Smart Cities and Climate Frustration

Session at a glance

Summary

The Smart City Leaders’ Talk focused on developing safe, smart cities that address climate frustration through digital technologies and people-centered approaches. The discussion was co-organized by the Global Cities Hub, ITU, and WEGO, bringing together international organizations, city leaders, and experts to explore how digitalization can create climate-resilient urban environments.


ITU Deputy Secretary General Tomas Lamanauskas emphasized that cities account for 70% of global CO2 emissions while being vulnerable to climate shocks, highlighting the need for smart connectivity that supports both climate mitigation and adaptation. He outlined ITU’s Green Digital Action initiative and Early Warnings for All program, which work with cities worldwide to develop standardized frameworks for tracking progress and implementing disaster management systems.


Johan Stander from the World Meteorological Organization discussed the UN Secretary General’s goal of protecting everyone with early warning systems by 2027. He stressed the importance of understanding local risks, developing forecasting capabilities, and ensuring warning messages reach all people through multiple communication channels, including low-tech solutions like SMS and voice messages for illiterate populations.


WEGO Secretary General Jeong-Kee Kim highlighted the organization’s work in training young professionals through the Sustainable Smart Cities Champions Program, recognizing that today’s youth are tomorrow’s climate-conscious leaders. The Mayor of Amman, through a video message, described how the city integrates smart city strategies with climate action, aiming for 60% emissions reduction by 2040 while ensuring inclusive digital transformation.


Nadia Verjee from Expo City Dubai presented their model of building a sustainable city from scratch, emphasizing the importance of embedding climate consciousness from the initial design phase rather than retrofitting existing infrastructure. Nicholas You from Guangzhou shared insights on implementing people-centered approaches by breaking down city management to the neighborhood level, allowing communities to identify their specific resilience priorities. The discussion concluded with a call for greater involvement of local and regional governments in international smart city debates, recognizing their crucial role as implementers who understand local contexts and citizen needs.


Keypoints

## Major Discussion Points:


– **Digital Technologies for Climate Resilience**: How digitalization and ICT can help cities build climate-resilient infrastructure, particularly through early warning systems for extreme weather events and better data collection/monitoring capabilities.


– **People-Centered Smart City Development**: The critical importance of involving citizens, especially youth, in smart city planning and ensuring that technology serves human needs rather than being implemented for its own sake. This includes breaking down institutional silos and consulting communities at the neighborhood level.


– **Early Warning Systems and Risk Management**: The UN’s initiative to protect everyone on the planet with early warning systems by 2027, emphasizing multi-hazard approaches that are accessible to all populations, including those who are illiterate or lack access to high-tech solutions.


– **Youth Engagement and Intergenerational Equity**: Recognizing that 60% of the global population will live in urban areas by 2030, with a significant portion being youth who will bear the brunt of climate change impacts, and the need to actively involve them in policy-making and solution development.


– **Practical Implementation Models**: Examples from various cities (Amman, Dubai, Guangzhou) showing different approaches to combining smart city strategies with climate action, from retrofitting existing infrastructure to building new sustainable cities from scratch.


## Overall Purpose:


The discussion aimed to explore how cities can leverage digital technologies and smart city approaches to become more climate-resilient while ensuring that development remains people-centered and inclusive. The event sought to demonstrate the value of involving local and regional governments in international discussions about digitalization and climate action.


## Overall Tone:


The discussion maintained a collaborative and solution-oriented tone throughout. Speakers were optimistic about the potential of technology to address climate challenges while being realistic about implementation challenges. There was a consistent emphasis on inclusivity and the need for practical, context-appropriate solutions. The tone remained professional and forward-looking, with speakers building on each other’s points and emphasizing partnership and cooperation across different levels of governance and stakeholder groups.


Speakers

– **Anh Thu Duong** – Co-director of the Global Cities Hub, moderator of the event


– **Tomas Lamanauskas** – Deputy Secretary General of ITU (International Telecommunication Union)


– **Johan Stander** – Senior Director of Services at WMO (World Meteorological Organization)


– **Jeong-Kee Kim** – Secretary General of WEGO (World Smart Sustainable Cities Organization)


– **Yousef Al Shawarbeh** – Mayor of Amman, Jordan (participated via video message)


– **Nadia Verjee** – Executive Director of Expo City Dubai (participated online)


– **Nicholas You** – Executive Director of Guangzhou Institute for Urban Innovation, advisor to the mayor


**Additional speakers:**


None identified beyond the provided speakers names list.


Full session report

# Smart City Leaders’ Talk: Comprehensive Discussion Summary


## Introduction and Context


The Smart City Leaders’ Talk, moderated by Anh Thu Duong, Co-director of the Global Cities Hub, brought together international organisations, city leaders, and experts to explore how digitalisation can create climate-resilient urban environments. This third event in the series was co-organised by the Global Cities Hub, ITU, and WEGO, conducted in a hybrid format with both online and in-person participants, with interpretation available in English and French.


The panel featured distinguished speakers including Tomas Lamanauskas (Deputy Secretary General of ITU), Johan Stander (Senior Director of Services at WMO), Jeong-Kee Kim (Secretary General of WEGO), Yousef Al Shawarbeh (Mayor of Amman, Jordan, participating via video message after being unable to attend at the last minute), Nadia Verjee (Executive Director of Expo City Dubai), and Nicholas You (Executive Director of Guangzhou Institute for Urban Innovation and advisor to the mayor).


## Major Discussion Themes and Speaker Contributions


### Digital Technologies for Climate Resilience


Tomas Lamanauskas from ITU emphasized the critical role of digital technologies in building climate-resilient cities, noting that cities account for 70% of global CO2 emissions whilst being vulnerable to climate shocks. He briefly mentioned ITU’s involvement in the Green Digital Action initiative and Early Warnings for All programme, highlighting the need for standardised frameworks for tracking progress and implementing disaster management systems.


Johan Stander from the World Meteorological Organisation provided detailed insights into the UN Secretary General’s goal of protecting everyone with early warning systems by 2027. He outlined the four-pillar approach of the Early Warnings initiative: disaster risk reduction, observation and forecasting infrastructure, communication systems, and community preparedness. Stander emphasized a shift from traditional weather forecasting to impact-based forecasting, explaining: “We’ve moved away from forecasting. We’ve moved into impact-based forecasting. What should you do? Not what the weather will be, but you as an individual, what you should do when these conditions are expected in the city.”


### People-Centred Smart City Development and Youth Engagement


A central theme throughout the discussion was the importance of involving citizens, especially youth, in smart city planning. Johan Stander posed challenging questions about youth engagement: “Speaking to the converted youth, everybody knows that by 2030, 60 percent of the population will live around urban areas… Not everybody thinks that 1.8 billion people constitute the youth and by 2030, 60% of those we define as youth will live in these cities. However, are we engaging them enough when policies need to be written or decisions need to be taken? Are we co-developing solutions with them?”


Jeong-Kee Kim from WEGO, which was originally established as “the world e-government organization 15 years ago by 50 cities” before broadening its mission in 2017, highlighted the organisation’s work in training young professionals through the Sustainable Smart Cities Champions Programme. Kim announced WEGO’s inaugural Global Youth Award for 2025 to recognise exceptional young leaders in smart cities and climate action.


Nicholas You from Guangzhou provided a critical perspective, referencing COVID-19 as a wake-up call: “What happened five years ago? The world was hit by this pandemic and I think it was a gigantic wake-up call. We discovered in cities both in the global north and the global south that many people and many places were being left behind… Despite the fact that we have smart city tools around for almost 30-40 years, what went wrong?”


### Technology Adaptation and Accessibility


Johan Stander challenged high-tech assumptions by providing concrete examples of effective low-tech solutions: “Some people may say, but this is all high-tech. When high-tech works, great, we’re all happy. But high-tech technology, the funding for that is not always accessible… So two examples. One from Argentina, a city called Luján… they send out a particular warning for a particular city and what the people should do on SMS. No smart technologies, just information… Another example is in Senegal… they’ve realized that the majority of their population is illiterate… So they’ve moved into a voice-over warning system.”


This perspective influenced the discussion’s understanding of ‘smart cities,’ emphasizing that solutions must be inclusive and adapted to local contexts rather than imposing universal high-tech solutions.


### Practical Implementation Models


Mayor Yousef Al Shawarbeh of Amman, in his video message, described how the city integrates smart city strategies with climate action, aiming for 60% emissions reduction by 2040 whilst ensuring inclusive digital transformation. He emphasized that “building smart and climate-resilient cities requires fostering holistic vision that invests in digital infrastructure while ensuring inclusion of youth, women, and persons with disabilities.”


Nadia Verjee from Expo City Dubai presented their model of building a sustainable city from scratch, emphasizing embedding climate consciousness from the initial design phase. She reported specific results: “93% of our waste away from landfill,” “9% increase on our solar energy production,” and “21%” reduction in grid consumption. Verjee positioned Expo City as a testbed for the UAE’s net zero 2050 targets, piloting solutions that can be adapted and scaled elsewhere.


### Governance and Measurement Challenges


Nicholas You raised fundamental questions about governance structures in smart cities, identifying a critical structural problem: “The reason I want to turn the clock back is because if we look at how smart city approaches have been applied to cities, they have been largely following the existing structure of cities… we have still not overcome those silos. So the real challenge for us going forward is how do we use digital tools and hopefully use AI intelligently to help us bridge those silos.”


You also highlighted measurement problems in urban governance: “We recently did a study, we looked at utilities across a dozen different countries and we’re still measuring cubic meters, tons, kilometers, kilowatts, etc. We don’t see people there. So, the best way that we found to approach this problem is to put people in charge.” He described a new planning approach being used “in Guangzhou, but not only in Guangzhou, in other Chinese cities as well” that focuses on neighbourhood-level community consultation.


## Key Themes and Collaborative Insights


The discussion revealed broad alignment on several key principles. All speakers emphasized the crucial importance of youth engagement for climate-conscious smart city development, with multiple speakers highlighting that young people must be actively involved in planning processes as they will be most affected by today’s decisions.


Speakers also demonstrated agreement that smart city solutions must be people-centred and context-specific, prioritising human needs over technology and adapting solutions to local contexts. This was evident across examples ranging from simple SMS warnings in Argentina to neighbourhood-level community consultation approaches.


Additionally, there was strong emphasis on integrating climate action with smart city strategies, with speakers agreeing that smart city development cannot be separated from climate action and requires integrated approaches addressing both emissions reduction and climate adaptation.


## Institutional Advocacy and Future Directions


Moderator Anh Thu Duong made specific advocacy for greater inclusion of local and regional governments in international processes, calling for “institutionalization of local and regional governments” in WSIS processes, including “regular consultation with local and regional governments on standardization.” She emphasized that local governments are “on the front lines of implementation” and stressed the need to “consult people through local and regional governments.”


The discussion generated several concrete initiatives and calls to action. The Early Warnings for All initiative, led by WMO and UNDRR with ITU as a partner, continues working toward the 2027 goal. WEGO announced plans to launch the inaugural Global Youth Award in 2025. Expo City Dubai committed to hosting the Asia-Pacific City Summit and Mayor’s Forum for regional knowledge sharing.


Cities were encouraged to adopt standardised KPI frameworks for progress tracking, while there were calls for more systematic consultation with local and regional governments in digital infrastructure standardisation processes and implementation of neighbourhood-level data collection and community-driven priority setting.


## Ongoing Challenges


Several critical challenges remain unresolved, including ensuring adequate funding for digital infrastructure in developing countries where high-tech solutions may not be accessible, and effectively bridging institutional silos that prevent integrated smart city approaches.


The challenge of scaling successful innovations from test-bed cities to legacy cities with existing infrastructure constraints also requires further attention. Additionally, developing people-centred metrics that focus on human outcomes rather than technical measurements remains an ongoing need.


The discussion also highlighted the continuing challenge of ensuring meaningful youth participation in urban governance beyond consultation, and balancing rapid urbanisation needs with inclusive, sustainable development approaches.


## Conclusion


The Smart City Leaders’ Talk demonstrated an evolved understanding of smart cities that prioritises human needs, local context adaptation, and climate integration. The discussion emphasized that effective smart city development requires moving beyond technology-first approaches toward inclusive, community-driven models that address both digital transformation and climate resilience.


The strong emphasis on youth engagement, combined with calls for greater involvement of local and regional governments in international smart city processes, points toward more democratic and collaborative approaches to urban innovation. As cities continue to face growing climate challenges, the insights from this discussion provide guidance for developing smart city approaches that serve human needs while addressing urgent sustainability challenges.


Due to time constraints, the moderator was unable to conduct a second round of questions, though the discussion successfully highlighted the interconnected nature of digital transformation, climate action, and inclusive urban governance.


Session transcript

Anh Thu Duong: Good afternoon. Ladies and gentlemen, we will start in really a few seconds. Can I call all speakers on the panel. Good afternoon again, ladies and gentlemen, colleagues. Very pleased to be here with you. Welcome to the Smart City Leaders’ Talk on Safe Smart Cities and Climate Frustration, co-organized by the Global Cities Hub with ITU and with our partner organization WEGO. Very pleased. Thank you. This year, we’ve chosen this topic of safe smart cities and climate frustration because a people-centered smart city approach means addressing people’s needs and expectation. And definitely, a climate conscious, climate resilient, sustainable urban future is really one of those needs and expectation. My name is Anh Thu Duong. I am the co-director of the Global Cities Hub, which is an organization which mission is twofold. Very quickly, we connect local and regional governments to international processes, and we focus on urban topics because we all know our future is urban and we need to apply this lens to everything we do, to everything we reflect on. And therefore, I’ll have the pleasure of moderating this event today. A few housekeeping matters before we start. Just to let you know that the event is hybrid. We have online participants and also online speakers who will join. You will see them at some point on the screen. We also have interpretation in English and French, so please don’t hesitate to choose the right channel to make sure you can follow the discussion which will be in English only. Now allow me to first thank the Deputy Secretary General of ITU, Tomas Lamanauskas, and your team for organizing the WSIS Plus 20 high-level events which feature the Smart City Leaders Talk and for joining us today in person. As you all know, the WSIS Plus 20 process offers the opportunity of harnessing emerging digital technologies which can accelerate the localization of sustainable development goals. In particular, those basically that facilitate local climate resilient development and can help address the global challenge of climate action through information communication technologies. The WSIS process is by nature multi-stakeholders. You see a lot of different constituencies throughout the events. You see states, private sectors, NGO, business people, academia. What we are basically fighting for, I would say, sorry fight is maybe a bit of a strong word, is to have a process that goes a little bit further and really include more local and regional governments. We advocate for the institutionalization of local and regional governments. For instance, that could be through regular consultation with local and regional governments on standardization. organization on digital infrastructure development because they are at the receiving end. So I’m looking at you Tomas, to you know convey that message and I trust that today this discussion will show, will demonstrate to you the tremendous added value of local and regional governments in this debate. The smart city leaders talk, which is I think the third in a row, if my recollection is correct, constitutes a very adequate framework for forward-looking thematic discussion between different constituencies, local and regional government, states, ITU and other relevant international organizations, as well as many other stakeholders including, as I said earlier, the private sector, academia, NGO and you name them. So in relation to our panel today, I will first invite Deputy Secretary-General Tomas Lamanauskas and Senior Director of Services at WMO, Johan Stander, to set the frame regarding the use of digitalization and ICTs to build smart cities and develop adequate early warning systems for extreme weather events. I will then turn to our mayors, city networks, city representative, other experts and ask them about how the transformative development of digital technologies and the opportunities that they offer for smart and climate resilient, for smart and climate resilient sustainable city development unfold. As we all know, extreme heat, extreme weather events, we just got through a very intense heat wave in Geneva for those who were there last week. We know that those phenomenon are getting more intense, more frequent and impact our daily lives. So today’s aim is really to discuss how can we ensure people-centered, climate resilient, smart city development And what are the necessary actions at the local level to be taken in order to confront those events? So we have a great line of speakers to address this issue. We will go with the first round of questions and I will introduce you. And we’ll start with you, Tomas Lamanauskas. As I said, you’re the Deputy Secretary General of the ITU. So tell us how, from the perspective of your own organization, how the ITU can help local leaders use digitalization and smart city approaches to develop more climate-conscious, climate-resilient cities. You have the floor.


Tomas Lamanauskas: Thank you, Ms. Anh Thu. Indeed, it’s great to have you here and have this, I would say, traditional conversation already. And I think that’s already answering your question, how we can help to have those conversations and to transform those conversations into solutions. But indeed, I liked how you said about the Geneva heat wave. Actually, some of us were in Sevilla last week for Finance for Development conference, so we only had 43 degrees Celsius. And watching the temperatures in other parts of Spain coming up to 46. So indeed, this is, I guess, new normal. Last year was the hottest year on record, but I don’t think it’s the last year on the record, regretfully. So I think that’s how, the question is how we all really address that. But then the thing before that, the specific challenge also, I think the importance of those voices from different levels of governance to really have one inclusive conversation. And it’s good here, I’m not only seeing here representatives of the cities, I also see ministers, I also see young people, I also see different UN agencies, that we’re all having this inclusive conversation together. And indeed, our great collaboration in the context of cities with the Global Cities Hub, I think enables that really to happen. Now, why we should care? Indeed, cities regretfully are also the source of emissions. And that’s kind of what we say, we talk about resiliency, how we can address that, but also urban areas account for around 70% of global CO2 emissions. So, yes, cities suffer, but they are also a bit of a culprit, so that needs to be addressed there as well. And that also makes cities vulnerable to the climate shocks, you know, from floods and heatwaves and other things that can help. And the question is now here, when we talk specifically about smart cities, do we talk about smart cities in all the right ways? Yes, we talk about connectivity, which of course IT promotes and have a lot of activities there, but also how we use that connectivity, you know, whether we just use that, you know, for which areas we use that. And we of course use that for economic development, for social inclusion, but do we use that also for climate both mitigation in terms of better use of, you know, from energy grids to other areas, but also climate adaptation in terms of, you know, being ready for disasters and better informed users as well. So now, of course, from our side, you know, so let’s say the governmental side for ITU has been an important part for quite a long while, you know, it’s also part of the business framework with our, with Action Line C7, you know, like all these numbers we keep reminding ourselves in this halls, which just talks about the environment. But also we as ITU, you know, a couple of years ago also decided to kind of give a boost of this with what’s called Green Digital Action. So on Green Digital Action initiative that started with COP28 brought together, you know, brought together stakeholders to say both how digital technologies will help solve the climate crisis for us, including cities, but how we all embrace our own responsibilities as a digital industry as well. And that’s, again, when you build digital… infrastructure in cities is important to think. Through the standards that encourage environmental sustainability, through the better reporting and transparency on greenhouse gas emissions, through disaster management, especially through the early warning systems, and we have this flagship initiative called Early Warnings for All that we run together with the UNDRR, SIRS, International Red Cross, NWMO, our partners here as well, of course. So how do we address those different areas as well? One of our partners there is also looking in the Digital Impact Alliance, is also looking into how to unlock data for climate action through what is called GERAND Learning Network for Climate Action, in which we look how to report data, how to really address the critical data needs, innovating data sharing models also for cities as well, so that we can make sure that we know it. And different cities around the world are involved, from Nairobi, Nairobi in Kenya, Desperados, Argentina, Freetown, Sierra Leone. So indeed, kind of different partners are involved already to measuring that, and I think definitely something can be applied to other cities. Now also, two current cities worldwide have adopted key performance indicators of our United for Smart, Sustainable Cities initiative, which is a standardized framework for cities to track down their progress as well. So of course, measurement and progress in this regard as well. So I think these are just a couple of initiatives that show that we find it very important, both measurement side, progress tracking side, but also then making sure the technologies are available through the right standards there and right partnerships here. But again, going back here, also it’s important to have these very inclusive dialogues in the places like that, to really see what are the needs of the cities and how other communities can contribute indeed. And I have to apologize, I will not run immediately, but I’ll have to leave a little bit earlier. Thank you very much.


Anh Thu Duong: Thank you, Tomas. I can imagine you have a busy program those days, running from one event to another. And thanks for making those points about those initiatives and how you basically, you know, help not only cities, but also, of course, states to measures to track progress, to have the right standards, to have data, basically, in order to better, you know, combat climate change. And I think it’s really important to listen from an agency like you, ITU, that you have, you know, really, you know, taken measures to, you know, go and basically fight climate change. So, thanks a lot for that. Also, to mention maybe that cities have tools that they can use, but for that, they need to contact you and they need to engage in a regular dialogue, I would say, with you. Thanks so much for that. We turn now to Johan Stander, as I said, Director, Senior Director of Services at the World Meteorological Organization, WMO. So, can you tell us, because you must probably work on this issue of urban, you know, so can you tell us how can the transformative development of digital technologies minimize the loss of life from severe weather events? And we’ve seen them, unfortunately, unfold in Texas very recently. How do you, how, basically, can you harness those digital technology and strengthen also early warnings and early action system?


Johan Stander: Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity, Thomas. Thank you. It’s great to be here and to represent the WMO on behalf of the Secretary General, Professor Celeste Salo. I would like to take a leap from what Thomas has indicated about the youth, just start slightly different. Speaking to the converted youth, everybody knows that by 2030, 60 percent of the population will live around urban areas. and as we know most of those people will move towards cities close to the ocean. Now, Tomas spoke about the youth. Not everybody thinks that 1.8 billion people constitute the youth and by 2030, 60% of those we define as youth will live in these cities. However, are we engaging them enough when policies need to be written or decisions need to be taken? Are we co-developing solutions with them? Because most of them, not my generation, but we’re feeling the brunt, are experiencing climate change and the impact of climate change. But are we really engaging those people, the food soldiers, so to speak, those people living in informal settlements? And if we think of Africa, they do expect that 60% of the population of Africa will live in cities by 2030. Now, that’s a staggering amount if you can consider the amount of people that live in Africa. Now, Tomas touched on the early warnings of the United Nations Secretary General Guterres with the end of 2022 indicated that everybody on the planet must be protected by early warning systems by 2027. Now, it is requested the WMO with the UNDRR to lead this initiative, but when we started this process, when we developed this high-level action plan, we immediately realized this can’t be done just by us. And we’ve got this four-pillar lead, so working with ITU, which I will go now into, and IFRC. So on the disaster risk reduction side, it’s important to understand the risk. What is the risk in that particular city? Because each city may be different. Can the infrastructure cope with the extreme heat that we’re experiencing? Can cities cope with intense rainfall over a short space of time? Can the cities cope with flash floods and all those that are associated? The microclimate in a city, we spoke about earlier, you know, the people living in a city where the buildings may not be built for air conditioning or cooling systems, or what about the workers outside making sure the streets are clean? Is it safe for them to still work over 2 o’clock or 3 o’clock in the afternoon to do their work? So we need to understand the risk when we develop these technologies. Number two is where the WMO comes in. So making sure we’ve got the infrastructure out there to support this. So we need to make sure we’ve got sufficient information, observation information. What is the temperature? What is the rainfall upstream and downstream that goes towards the city area? And then the modelling capabilities which we can help with, and then the forecasting capabilities. Sending out those early warning messages to the people in the city, to those in the rural community that there’s extreme heat expected in a certain area or in the city, and what should you do? We’ve moved away from forecasting. We’ve moved into impact-based forecasting. What should you do? Not what the weather will be, but you as an individual, what you should do when these conditions are expected in the city. So you need to take action on those warnings. Number three is with the ITU. making sure that the message reach each person. Now people may say, but what if the cell phone system or mobile system goes down? This is where IT is so brilliant. They’re working with the satellite communication people to make sure that if the mobile service goes down, you still get your warning through satellite at no cost to the individual, because they also would like to save lives. And then with the IFRC, making sure the last people are reached at the end of the day, because this whole system which we developed, co-developed with everybody, is a people-centric multi-hazard early warning system. So we must look at all hazards, volcanoes, floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, heat and so on. Now let us look at two examples. Some people may say, but this is all high-tech. When high-tech works, great, we’re all happy. But high-tech technology, the funding for that is not always accessible for those in developing, all these developed countries. So two examples. One from Argentina, a city called Lujan, so when they’ve got the extreme heat expected in their particular area, they send out a particular warning for a particular city and what the people should do on SMS. No smart technologies, just information they receive from the National Meteorological and Hydrological Service. Another example is in Senegal. And apart from using the SMS system, they’ve realized that the majority of their population is illiterate. They cannot read or write. So they’ve moved into a voice-over warning system. So they get the warning, people get the warnings by just listening to the message. Now that’s practical. It’s not costing a lot of money, but they’re still reaching the people at the end of the day. We earlier spoke about floods and all of those type of things, but what about the cities close to the ocean? What about sea level rise? A lot of these cities’ outlets are in the ocean, but if you’ve got sea level rise, you’ve got extremely high waves, what is happening is pushing the water back, so the water cannot flow into the ocean. Can you deal with that? What do you need to do to adapt to those things if the infrastructure is in such a way that it cannot push the water down into the ocean? When we talk about local leaders, I think it’s really important that we understand that we involve everybody. We need to make sure that we’ve got institutional engagement, involve the people as full partners from the start of the process for smart city innovations, education, capacity development and support for those who need it. Sometimes we forget that we need to do that training on the foot soldiers on the ground level and then leverage global networks. I would like to end with a couple of remarks, if I may. Incorporating the views and expectations of a climate-conscious generation is crucial for people-centric, climate-resilient smart cities. Local leaders can create structures and cultures that treat all as partners in urban innovation, while global leaders and organizations provide the support, the framework and resources which Thomas related to earlier. When all people are empowered to influence and shape climate responses in cities, results are much more inclusive, creative and future-proof. By embracing intergenerational collaboration today, city builders and policy makers can cultivate urban environments that are sustainable, resilient and responsive to the hopes of the next generation. Thank you.


Anh Thu Duong: Thank you so much for those very important thoughts, concluding thoughts. I think you really showed how basically defining smart must be adapted to each local context, you know, it’s not always very much, very high, costly, high tech, but it has to respond to a demand from people on the ground. And for that, basically consulting with local and regional governments who know their people, who know their context, who know their actors is very important. Thanks a lot for that. Let me now turn to my next speaker, Mr. Jeong-Kee Kim, U.S. Secretary General of WECO, a smart city organization that gathers quite a number of cities worldwide, working on smart solutions with those cities. We’re very glad to see you here because we’ve been partnering for a long time with WECO, so thanks a lot for the trust and again for the collaboration around this event. May I ask you how local and global leaders can factor in the views and expectations of people who become more climate conscious in smart city development? And you mentioned it earlier, in particular among the young generation who take on more importance, these are people we should listen to them, we should listen to. How do local leaders factor in those views?


Jeong-Kee Kim: Thank you. Hello, good afternoon. I am Mr. Jeong-Kee Kim, the Secretary General of the World Smart Sustainable Cities Organization. It is truly an honor to be here with you today. It is a great pleasure to be to the beautiful and innovative city of Geneva for the second edition of the Smart Cities Leaders’ Talk at WSIS Plus 20 high-level event. Allow me to begin by extending my sincere gratitude to our partners, Doreen Bogdan-Martin, Secretary General of ITU, Tomas Lamanauskas, Deputy Secretary General of ITU, he left present today, and their wonderful team for organizing this important summit and for their warm hospitality. I would also like to express my sincere appreciation to Global Cities Hub, represented by Anh Thu Duong. Am I correct?


Anh Thu Duong: Yes.


Jeong-Kee Kim: Thank you. Co-Director of Global Cities Hub for their continued partnership and support in co-hosting today’s session. Moreover, I wish to extend a warm welcome to our esteemed WIGO member, Mr. Umar Nasir Usman, Deputy Mayor of Abuja, Nigeria. Additionally, I express my sincere gratitude to Mr. Joseph R. Chawarowe, Mayor of Amman. Mr. Nicholas Yu, Executive Director of the Gangzhou Institute for Sustainable Smart Cities Champions Program. Ms. Nadia Verjee, Executive Director of Expo3Dubai, Mr. Johan Stander, Senior Director of the World Meteorological Organization. We hope to welcome you in the family very soon. Today’s gathering is a unique opportunity to discuss and shape the development of safe and smart cities. It is a chance to reflect on how local and global leaders can integrate the views and expectations of climate-conscious citizens, particularly the youth, into the development of urban spaces. Organizations like the World Smart Sustainable Cities Organization, also known as WIGO, has been instrumental in this journey as a global network dedicated to support local leaders in transforming cities into smart, sustainable environments. WIGO was established as the world e-government organization 15 years ago by 50 cities leading in ICT development, mainly led by Seoul Metropolitan Government. Responding to the evolving landscape in city governance and climate consciousness, WIGO broadened its mission and vision to support the development of smart and sustainable cities in 2017. Today, with over 2,200 members worldwide and 6 regional offices operating across all of the continents, WIGO fosters collaboration in sustainable and inclusive development. inclusive development by acting as a central hub among cities in the world. A key aspect to this action is engaging the younger generation, whose forward-thinking ideas are essential for building cities that are smart, resilient, and sustainable. This is the objective of the WEGO, Sustainable Smart Cities Champions Program, recognizing today’s youth are tomorrow’s leaders. The program aims to build the students’ and young professionals’ expertise in smart and resilient city development by partnering with domestic and international universities and through a combination of online lectures and in-person workshops conducted by accredited professors. The program seeks to build an active community of future leaders who are climate-conscious and equipped to make a significant impact. By hosting workshops around the world, we offer a platform for interaction, networking, and active engagement to share ideas and explore these topics. In addition, in 2025, WEGO aims to involve young people even further by launching its inaugural Global Youth Award. This initiative is set to recognize exceptional global youth leaders excelling in areas such as smart cities, advanced technologies, net-zero initiatives, digital innovation, cultural Since the beginning of this initiative in 2022, we have observed the growing interest of local and global leaders in getting involved and actively preparing their young communities to face these issues. This is why, as we move forward, I would like to call upon global and local leaders to reflect on the importance of this mission and to join us in such an initiative. By integrating the youth into development strategies and initiatives, we can ensure the development of innovative, inclusive, and climate-focused cities for the benefit of all the people in the world. Thank you.


Anh Thu Duong: Thank you very much, Jeong-Kee Kim. Very interesting to learn about how you train the youth, basically, to make sure that you have a future generation of smart city leaders and that basically respond to their own expectations and needs. Thank you for that. We need to accelerate a little bit. I’m looking at the time. You mentioned in your remarks that Amman was a member of WECO. We have the mayor of Amman, who was supposed to come, who could not come at the last minute. He sent us a video message very kindly where, basically, he responds to this question. How can Amman in Jordan combine a smart city strategy with climate action and economic growth at the local level? How does, basically, that city combine all those different objectives at their local level? The message will be delivered in Arabic. Again, please use your headphones to make sure you have the right language.


Yousef Al Shawarbeh: Warm greetings from Amman, the capital of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. We are a city steadily advancing toward a smart, safe and sustainable urban future, guided by a comprehensive vision that places people and climate at the heart of its urban policies. It is my pleasure to join you at this important global event, which highlights the critical role of smart cities in addressing climate change challenges and enhancing urban safety through digital solutions driven by artificial intelligence and advanced technologies. In a time where climate risks are accelerating and the need for integrated and innovative responses is even more pressing, Amman has adopted an integrated approach to the Alliance in Smart Cities strategy with the updated 2024 Climate Action Plan, the Comprehensive Transport Strategy and the City’s Green Growth Plan, all within a coordinated framework that ensures maximum impact on quality of life, emissions reduction and urban resilience. The greater Amman municipality has developed a smart city roadmap built on our interrelated pillars, digital transformation, smart and sustainable mobility, green infrastructure and integrated environmental management. Across all pillars, climate resilience and adaptation are mainstream. Our Climate Action Plan aims to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 60% by 2040 and achieve carbon neutrality by 2050. We have made smart transformation a strategic tool to achieve three core objectives, enhancing urban resilience to climate change. improving quality of life and building an inclusive, data-driven and innovation-based city supported by effective governance. In this context, Amman officially launched its Smart City Strategy in October 2023, a milestone that reflects the directive of His Majesty King Abdullah II to improve public services, attract investment and create a resilient and safe urban environment. This strategy builds on efforts initiated by the municipality since 2009. The strategy is structured around five clear strategic goals, enhancing the efficiency of urban services, promoting community engagement and improving quality of life, increasing the city’s resilience to climate change and disasters, ensuring environmental, economic and social sustainability, preserving the city’s identity while enabling digital transformation. In terms of mobility, the bus rapid transit system is a leading model of smart and sustainable public transport, reducing the city’s carbon footprint and improving traffic efficiency, supported by electronic ticketing and AI-powered smart traffic systems. On the digital front, we have digitized core municipal services, introduced smart lighting systems, citizen engagement platforms and unified complaint applications, all of which have contributed to enhanced efficiency, transparency and data-driven decision-making. In terms of infrastructure, the city is promoting green building standards and low-emission constructions alongside improved waste management through recycling and composting initiatives and smart tracking tools to boost operational efficiency. Building a smart and climate-resilient city is not just about technology adoption. It is about fostering a holistic vision that invests in digital infrastructure, builds public trust, strengthens national and international partnerships, and ensures the inclusions of all, especially youth, women and persons with disabilities. I would like to thank the organizers of this important summit and reaffirm Amman’s strong commitment to both its achievements and its aspirations to be a model for equitable, smart climate transformation and a proactive international partner in building the cities of tomorrow. Cities that are more sustainable, inclusive and secure. Thank you.


Anh Thu Duong: Thank you. I apologize to our speakers here who don’t have the interpretation. I’ll provide you with a translation of his statement. But what’s again very interesting to hear in Amman’s basically intervention, it’s again this question of definition of smartness. It’s not about only technology adoption, but how to be as inclusive as possible, how to make sure that all the public services reach the right people in the city, including the youth, including the women, people with disabilities, and responding to your basic mandate as mayor is servicing people. We now move on to Nadia Vergy. I hope you are online with us. I think you are. Great. Thanks. Welcome, Nadia. Welcome to Girona. Nadia, you are Executive Director of Expo City Dubai. It’s a very special example of creating a city from scratch. Expo City Dubai presents itself as a pioneering model for sustainable urban development. Interestingly, in preparing this event, I found that your city, Expo City Dubai, prides itself in not being just a city, but in being tomorrow’s living model for how we live, how we work, how we have leisure, how we connect in the future. So tell us, you know, from your experience, from your standpoint, how does Expo City Dubai reconcile smart city technologies and climate consciousness? The floor is yours.


Nadia Verjee: Thank you very much for having me on the panel today. I hope you can hear me well, and it’s an honor to participate. So Expo City Dubai is the new center of gravity of the future growth of the city of Dubai. So it’s not a retrofit, but it’s a city really born out of intention. And that, I think, and I think it’s very important to say, that it comes with a profound opportunity, but also a very serious responsibility when the stakes are this high. And we’re talking about climate change, digital disruption, rising expectations around safety, equity. Our colleague from WHO is really speaking about intergenerational equity and inclusion. And I think that these are really essential ingredients of how to design holistic. We haven’t really layered sustainability or infrastructure on top of legacy systems. We really embedded it from the very beginning. And so really thinking about the design master plan of this space, how can we think about mobility, energy, waste, data flow in a single system? So almost really thinking of a different paradigm. We’re a 15 minute city by design. scale, walkable, digitally integrated. Our infrastructure like district cooling, sensor-enabled waste was really planned from the outset. We really do prioritise renewable energy, eco-friendly designs, smart urban planning, sort of that whole facility for residents and tenants and everybody who’s living in this city to really benefit from an improved quality of life. In 2024, to give you just a few anchors of statistics, we diverted 93% of our waste away from landfill. We had a 9% increase on our solar energy production. We’re a certified autism centre. On our road to decarbonisation, reducing our consumption of grid and year on year from last year was 21%. So all of this kind of gives you an idea of the fact that we serve as this test bed for the city of Dubai, but for the UAE that’s got its own net zero targets for 2050. So we can pilot, we fail fast. We try to scale because the governance, the land, the institutional framework is all aligned. So we’re not kind of trapped in those long term cycles. And I think this is something that’s very well known about Dubai and the UAE, the sort of governance agility, and that can really accelerate our response to climate. But then I guess the flip side of that is ensuring inclusion, and it’s not enough to have the technology. We have to sort of ask ourselves, well, what does it take to really reduce emissions, improve air quality, and really focus on human dignity? And so that we like to call ourselves a green print, almost a model for export, but really a testbed for solutions that can be adapted, that can be scaled, and that can be tested elsewhere, particularly in the global south. And so, you know, we really, really believe that it’s really got to be. incredibly responsive. Safety is really about physical infrastructure, about digital safeguards and emotional security. So really creating trust in how the city listens and adapts and really sort of creates that enabling environment for the citizens and for folks who are living there. You know, we’re working with colleagues on the panel. You know, EGO is joining us in October at one of our big events that we’re hosting, and I’ll tell you a bit more about that. But really the idea is to co-develop frameworks that measure not just smartness, but really focused on impact. And like I said, on emissions, on equity, this focus on intergenerational equity is a priority for us and really human dignity. So what we’ve done over the course of the last couple of years is really design our own urban framework, which really helps cities benchmark themselves across global standards, but then our own metrics of what we’ve put in place to become this city that’s really based on metrics of sustainability, innovation, R&D, SME support, and really broad international cooperation. So my day job is to take the city into the world and then bring value back from the world into the city for the purposes of really benefiting from what great advances are happening in the rest of the world too. And so, you know, we recognize that it may look a little bit utopian perhaps, or a little bit inaccessible, that this idea of starting from scratch is sort of disconnected from some of these real world urban complexities, but Dubai has its own fair share of urban complexities. And so the burden is on us to kind of really collaborate, showcase what we’re doing, and really build relationships with cities around the world, which is why we’re hosting the Asia-Pacific City Summit and Mayor’s Forum, which is our global mayoral forum, really bringing the BIASA regions, Middle East, South Asia, and Africa region to the table. Because urbanization is happening at such an exponential speed in this part of the world, how do you really interrogate what works, what can scale, and what really inspires adaptation? So we’re really seeing this as an inflection point for cities to think about climate-conscious transformation through digital, through policy innovation, really bringing all of these leaders together to tackle challenges across climate, connectivity, infrastructure, and inclusion. And really for us, we really believe that Expo City is not just about the physical infrastructure, but it’s at the service of really a platform for urban imagination. So we hosted the World Expo, we hosted COP28, and now we believe that the frustration that we all feel about climate inaction, siloed planning, this idea of exclusionary design, really can be redirected into solutions that allow us to converge if we can create spaces to do that. So we’re a work in progress, and our invitation extends to every city to really build with purpose, build with urgency and integrity for what we all deserve and for what the next generations deserve too.


Anh Thu Duong: Thank you so much, Nadia. That sounds absolutely fascinating. I guess a lot of cities worldwide must look at you with a little bit of envy, being able to build a city from scratch. However, I might just rely on that figure that UN-Habitat keeps bringing up, saying that 60% of urban infrastructure by 2050, I think, is still to be built. So we still have a lot of white pages to draw on our urban future. But thanks so much for your intervention and about telling us how you work with that and how you’ve been able to embed all those considerations about climate resilience, climate consciousness from the very start. Very interesting. Now, let me turn to Nicholas You. the last but not the least. You are Executive Director of Guangzhou Institute for Urban Innovation but I’ve learned just before the panel that you were actually the advisor to the mayor which you know is much more interesting from our point of view I have to say because we’re looking for those connections with cities directly. So you’re basically, you extensively work on the concept of innovation in improving social, economic, environmental sustainability in cities. As such you’ve become really an expert on smart cities and advocate for a people-centered approach which we’ve heard throughout you know different interventions. Can you tell us more about the importance of why this is so important to have this people-centered approach? It sounds obvious but it’s not always when you design those smart cities. How does that play out in the context of smart climate resilient cities?


Nicholas You: Thank you very much and greetings to everybody. I would like to start just by turning the clock back five years. What happened five years ago? The world was hit by this pandemic and I think it was a gigantic wake-up call. We discovered in cities both in the global north and the global south that many people and many places were being left behind. I personally had to deal with emergencies in approximately a dozen cities. We were monitoring very closely what was happening and it was quite shocking to find out that even in wealthy cities there were entire neighborhoods where people did not have access to recreational green space. Entire communities did not have access to fresh food that a lot of children were really missing out on their education because of the digital divide. So what didn’t work? Despite the fact that we have smart city tools around for almost 30-40 years, what went wrong? And the reason I want to turn the clock back is because if we look at how smart city approaches have been applied to cities, they have been largely following the existing structure of cities. And our cities today, the structure that we use to govern our cities, manage our cities, was born out of the Industrial Revolution, when cities exploded in growth, in speed, in population, and it became so complex that we had to break down and simplify the city into bite-sized pieces. We call those bite-sized pieces the silos. And what COVID revealed to us was that despite all our efforts on smart city planning, smart city management, etc., we have still not overcome those silos. So the real challenge for us going forward is how do we use digital tools and hopefully use AI intelligently to help us bridge those silos in order to meet the green climate and digital transitions, right? And Guangzhou is no different. We discovered the same problems as other cities around the world, and I just want to use it as an example. We started our digital transition a long time ago already. As most people are aware, China’s pretty much at the forefront of using AI and all kinds of digital tools. But we also had the same problems, and we decided to use this wake-up call to rethink how we plan and design the city, not like Dubai. We’re a legacy city of 18 million people, so it’s pretty hard to try to do something completely new. The key issue here was how to become people-centered to make your city more resilient, was to rethink the management of the city down to the neighborhood level. So there’s a new planning approach in Guangzhou, but not only in Guangzhou, in other Chinese cities as well, where the city is broken down into wards, and most of the data that is being collected and being monitored is being done at the ward level. So we ask neighborhood by neighborhood, what are your priorities in making your neighborhood, your residential area, your community more resilient? It changes from neighborhood to neighborhood, depending on the age of the neighborhood, its type of architecture, when it was planned, when it was built, the age, gender split in that neighborhood. So we found out that some neighborhoods, in order to become more resilient, they primarily had to deal with solid waste. In others, it was urban cooling. How do you actually cool down the temperature of your neighborhood? Yet in others, it was water, but Chinese cities have an overall strategy of the sponge city. Yet in others, it was greening, how to integrate micro parks, micro recreational spaces into an existing urban fabric. So this bottom-up approach to looking at resilience is the strategy that Guangzhou is now pursuing. As I mentioned, most of the data is being collected at the community level. It’s being generated at the community level. It’s using simple applications, using mobile phone technology, while the city itself is monitoring other things, the overall temperature. wind direction, water, etc. etc. So, what basically what I’m getting at is that in order for a city, people-centered smart city to work, we have to re-look at all of our KPIs, sector by sector, silo by solo, to make sure that people are at the center. This is not the case today. We recently did a study, we looked at utilities across a dozen different countries and we’re still measuring cubic meters, tons, kilometers, kilowatts, etc. We don’t see people there. So, the best way that we found to approach this problem is to put people in charge. Put people in charge of collecting, defining which data they want to collect, which are the problems they want to solve, have them be part of the ecosystem that is looking at the data, coming up with solutions, feeding that back into the urban planning and day-to-day management of the city. In conclusion, what I want to say is that for people-centered to work, we have to make this a real pillar of how we measure what we’re doing. It has to be a fundamental pillar. It cannot just be objectives that we fix to a project or to a three-year initiative, etc. It has to become a permanent feature of how we measure progress. Most importantly, I think it implies that we adopt a systems approach, which means that from the governance perspective, we will have to bridge, if not break down those silos. The only way we can do that is really by putting people and communities at the forefront of the decision-making process.


Anh Thu Duong: Thank you so much, Nicolas. It’s really back to basics, basically. If you want a people-centered approach, ask the people. Go to the neighbourhood level, go to the ward level to understand what are their needs and expectations. in terms of smartness of their own city. We had a last speaker, but I think unfortunately we had connection issues. Unfortunately, so therefore we’re coming to the end of this event without having the opportunity to go for a second round of questions. I’m so sorry about this. I feel that this discussion could have lasted much longer, but allow me to simply like express my heartfelt thanks to all of the speakers both in person but also online for their time and valuable contributions. Allow me to also extend sincere gratitude for the ITU team who’ve enabled this event as well as to my colleague Andras Szorenyi who’s worked very hard to gather all those fantastic speakers. I hope we’ve successfully highlighted the critical role that local and regional governments must play in the current but also the future debates on smart cities and you understood that smart is a very big word where we put a lot of things. It means different things for different purple people, but please do consult your own people through local and regional governments who are the level of authority that is in proximity with those people who again know the context, know the territory, know basically what are the needs that need to be responded to. As with many issues discussed at the international level, we must recognize that local and regional governments are often on the front lines of implementation, of decision being made at the state level, at the international level. So their involvement in those discussions is crucial. This is what we’ve attempted to do today by having this focus on city level. And so we know that local and regional governments have the ability to drive real progress when it comes to climate resilience because ITU mentioned it earlier. Nadia, they are the drivers of the climate change, but they’re also the ones being most impacted. So let’s listen to them. Let’s consult people to ensure that we have a people-centered, smart city development. And I thank you again and hope to see you soon.


T

Tomas Lamanauskas

Speech speed

168 words per minute

Speech length

893 words

Speech time

318 seconds

Cities account for 70% of global CO2 emissions and are vulnerable to climate shocks, requiring smart connectivity for both mitigation and adaptation

Explanation

Cities are both contributors to and victims of climate change, accounting for the majority of global emissions while also being vulnerable to climate impacts like floods and heatwaves. Smart city technologies should be used not just for economic development but specifically for climate mitigation through better energy grids and adaptation through disaster preparedness.


Evidence

Cities account for around 70% of global CO2 emissions; examples of climate impacts include floods and heatwaves affecting urban areas


Major discussion point

Smart Cities and Climate Change Integration


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Agreed with

– Yousef Al Shawarbeh
– Nadia Verjee

Agreed on

Integration of climate action with smart city strategies is essential


ITU helps through satellite communication backup when mobile systems fail, ensuring warning messages reach everyone at no cost

Explanation

The ITU works with satellite communication providers to ensure that early warning messages can still reach people even when mobile phone networks go down during disasters. This backup system is provided at no cost to individuals as part of life-saving efforts.


Evidence

ITU partnership with satellite communication providers for backup warning systems during mobile service outages


Major discussion point

Early Warning Systems and Digital Technologies


Topics

Infrastructure | Development


Two thousand cities worldwide have adopted key performance indicators from United for Smart, Sustainable Cities initiative for standardized progress tracking

Explanation

The ITU has developed a standardized framework through the United for Smart, Sustainable Cities initiative that allows cities to measure and track their progress consistently. This framework has been adopted by 2,000 cities globally, providing a common measurement system for smart city development.


Evidence

2,000 cities worldwide have adopted the KPIs from the United for Smart, Sustainable Cities initiative


Major discussion point

Measurement and Standards Framework


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


J

Johan Stander

Speech speed

136 words per minute

Speech length

1170 words

Speech time

515 seconds

Early Warnings for All initiative aims to protect everyone on the planet by 2027 through four-pillar approach: understanding risk, infrastructure, communication, and reaching last people

Explanation

The UN Secretary General’s initiative requires WMO and partners to implement a comprehensive early warning system with four components: understanding disaster risks in each location, ensuring proper meteorological infrastructure and forecasting, communicating warnings effectively through ITU, and ensuring the most vulnerable populations are reached through IFRC partnerships.


Evidence

Four-pillar approach led by WMO with UNDRR, ITU, and IFRC; target date of 2027 for global coverage


Major discussion point

Early Warning Systems and Digital Technologies


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Digital technologies can minimize loss of life through impact-based forecasting that tells people what actions to take, not just weather predictions

Explanation

Modern early warning systems have evolved from simply predicting weather to providing specific guidance on what individuals should do when extreme conditions are expected. This impact-based approach focuses on actionable information that can save lives rather than just meteorological data.


Evidence

Shift from traditional weather forecasting to impact-based forecasting with specific action guidance


Major discussion point

Early Warning Systems and Digital Technologies


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


1.8 billion youth will constitute 60% of urban population by 2030, but they need to be engaged in policy-making and solution co-development

Explanation

Young people represent a massive demographic that will be predominantly urban and most affected by climate change, yet they are not sufficiently involved in creating policies or developing solutions. This represents a missed opportunity for more effective and relevant urban planning and climate action.


Evidence

1.8 billion youth globally; 60% of population will live in urban areas by 2030; 60% of Africa’s population will be urban by 2030


Major discussion point

Youth Engagement and Future Leadership


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Jeong-Kee Kim
– Yousef Al Shawarbeh
– Anh Thu Duong

Agreed on

Youth engagement is crucial for climate-conscious smart city development


Smart solutions must be adapted to local contexts – simple SMS warnings in Argentina and voice-over systems for illiterate populations in Senegal prove effective

Explanation

Effective smart city solutions don’t always require high-tech approaches but must be tailored to local needs and capabilities. Simple, accessible technologies can be more effective than complex systems if they reach the intended population and serve their specific circumstances.


Evidence

Lujan, Argentina uses SMS warnings for extreme heat; Senegal uses voice-over warning systems for illiterate populations


Major discussion point

Technology Adaptation and Accessibility


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Yousef Al Shawarbeh
– Nicholas You
– Anh Thu Duong

Agreed on

Smart city solutions must be people-centered and context-specific


Disagreed with

– Nicholas You

Disagreed on

Technology complexity and accessibility in smart city solutions


J

Jeong-Kee Kim

Speech speed

94 words per minute

Speech length

656 words

Speech time

416 seconds

WEGO’s Sustainable Smart Cities Champions Program builds students’ and young professionals’ expertise through online lectures and workshops to create climate-conscious future leaders

Explanation

WEGO has developed a comprehensive program that combines online education with in-person workshops to train the next generation of urban leaders. The program partners with universities globally and focuses on building expertise in smart and resilient city development among young people who will become tomorrow’s decision-makers.


Evidence

Program includes online lectures and in-person workshops conducted by accredited professors; partnerships with domestic and international universities; inaugural Global Youth Award launching in 2025


Major discussion point

Youth Engagement and Future Leadership


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Johan Stander
– Yousef Al Shawarbeh
– Anh Thu Duong

Agreed on

Youth engagement is crucial for climate-conscious smart city development


Y

Yousef Al Shawarbeh

Speech speed

111 words per minute

Speech length

536 words

Speech time

289 seconds

Climate Action Plan aims to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 60% by 2040 and achieve carbon neutrality by 2050 through integrated smart city strategy

Explanation

Amman has developed an ambitious climate action plan with specific targets and timelines, integrating it with their smart city strategy rather than treating them as separate initiatives. This comprehensive approach combines digital transformation, sustainable mobility, green infrastructure, and environmental management to achieve climate goals.


Evidence

60% emissions reduction target by 2040; carbon neutrality by 2050; integration with smart city roadmap including digital transformation, smart mobility, green infrastructure, and environmental management


Major discussion point

Smart Cities and Climate Change Integration


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Agreed with

– Tomas Lamanauskas
– Nadia Verjee

Agreed on

Integration of climate action with smart city strategies is essential


Building smart and climate-resilient cities requires fostering holistic vision that invests in digital infrastructure while ensuring inclusion of youth, women, and persons with disabilities

Explanation

Creating truly smart cities goes beyond technology implementation to require a comprehensive approach that builds public trust, strengthens partnerships, and actively includes marginalized groups in the planning and development process. This holistic vision ensures that smart city benefits reach all residents rather than creating new forms of exclusion.


Evidence

Emphasis on building public trust, strengthening national and international partnerships, and specific inclusion of youth, women, and persons with disabilities


Major discussion point

People-Centered Approach to Smart Cities


Topics

Development | Human rights


Agreed with

– Johan Stander
– Nicholas You
– Anh Thu Duong

Agreed on

Smart city solutions must be people-centered and context-specific


N

Nadia Verjee

Speech speed

159 words per minute

Speech length

1003 words

Speech time

378 seconds

Expo City Dubai diverted 93% of waste from landfill, increased solar energy production by 9%, and reduced grid consumption by 21% through embedded sustainability design

Explanation

By designing sustainability into the city from the beginning rather than retrofitting existing systems, Expo City Dubai has achieved significant environmental performance metrics. The city serves as a testbed for sustainable urban solutions that can be scaled and adapted elsewhere.


Evidence

93% waste diversion from landfill; 9% increase in solar energy production; 21% reduction in grid consumption year-over-year; certified autism centre status


Major discussion point

Smart Cities and Climate Change Integration


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Agreed with

– Tomas Lamanauskas
– Yousef Al Shawarbeh

Agreed on

Integration of climate action with smart city strategies is essential


Disagreed with

– Nicholas You

Disagreed on

Definition and approach to smart city development


Expo City serves as testbed for UAE’s net zero 2050 targets, piloting solutions that can be adapted and scaled elsewhere, particularly in global south

Explanation

The city functions as a living laboratory where new technologies and approaches can be tested, refined, and then exported to other contexts. The governance agility allows for rapid experimentation and scaling, with particular focus on solutions applicable to developing countries where urbanization is happening rapidly.


Evidence

UAE net zero 2050 targets; hosting of Asia-Pacific City Summit and Mayor’s Forum; focus on BIASA regions (Middle East, South Asia, Africa) where urbanization is accelerating


Major discussion point

Governance and Multi-Stakeholder Collaboration


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


WEGO developed urban framework helping cities benchmark across global standards with metrics focused on sustainability, innovation, R&D, and international cooperation

Explanation

The organization has created a comprehensive framework that allows cities to measure their performance against international standards while focusing on key areas that drive sustainable urban development. This framework emphasizes not just technological advancement but also research, development, and global collaboration.


Evidence

Urban framework for benchmarking across global standards; metrics covering sustainability, innovation, R&D, SME support, and international cooperation


Major discussion point

Measurement and Standards Framework


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


N

Nicholas You

Speech speed

133 words per minute

Speech length

940 words

Speech time

422 seconds

Cities must rethink management at neighborhood level, asking communities what their priorities are for resilience, which varies by neighborhood characteristics

Explanation

Effective urban resilience requires moving away from city-wide approaches to neighborhood-specific strategies that reflect local conditions, demographics, and needs. Different areas within the same city may prioritize different aspects of resilience based on their unique characteristics and challenges.


Evidence

Guangzhou’s ward-level planning approach; examples of varying neighborhood priorities including solid waste, urban cooling, water management, and greening based on age, architecture, and demographics


Major discussion point

People-Centered Approach to Smart Cities


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Johan Stander
– Yousef Al Shawarbeh
– Anh Thu Duong

Agreed on

Smart city solutions must be people-centered and context-specific


Disagreed with

– Nadia Verjee

Disagreed on

Definition and approach to smart city development


COVID-19 revealed that despite 30-40 years of smart city tools, many people were left behind due to digital divides and lack of access to basic services

Explanation

The pandemic exposed fundamental flaws in how smart cities have been developed, showing that technological solutions have often followed existing urban structures and silos rather than addressing underlying inequalities. Even wealthy cities had neighborhoods without access to green space, fresh food, or digital connectivity.


Evidence

Pandemic response in approximately a dozen cities; neighborhoods without recreational green space, fresh food access, or digital connectivity for education; problems found in both global north and south cities


Major discussion point

Technology Adaptation and Accessibility


Topics

Development | Human rights


Disagreed with

– Johan Stander

Disagreed on

Technology complexity and accessibility in smart city solutions


People-centered approach requires breaking down silos and adopting systems approach with communities at forefront of decision-making process

Explanation

Traditional urban governance structures created during the Industrial Revolution divided cities into departmental silos that smart city technologies have not successfully bridged. True people-centered development requires fundamental changes to governance that put communities in charge of defining problems, collecting data, and developing solutions.


Evidence

Industrial Revolution origins of current urban governance silos; need for communities to define data collection priorities and participate in solution development; requirement for permanent measurement changes rather than project-based objectives


Major discussion point

Governance and Multi-Stakeholder Collaboration


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Current utility measurements across dozen countries still focus on cubic meters, tons, kilometers rather than people-centered metrics

Explanation

Despite decades of smart city development, urban measurement systems remain focused on technical outputs rather than human outcomes. This fundamental misalignment means that cities are optimizing for the wrong indicators and missing the human impact of their services and policies.


Evidence

Study of utilities across a dozen different countries showing measurement in cubic meters, tons, kilometers, kilowatts rather than people-centered metrics


Major discussion point

Measurement and Standards Framework


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


A

Anh Thu Duong

Speech speed

137 words per minute

Speech length

2267 words

Speech time

987 seconds

Smart city development must address people’s needs and expectations, particularly climate-conscious and climate-resilient urban futures

Explanation

A truly people-centered approach to smart cities means that technology and urban planning must respond to what residents actually need and want, with climate resilience being a fundamental expectation. This requires moving beyond technology-first approaches to human-needs-first development.


Major discussion point

People-Centered Approach to Smart Cities


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Johan Stander
– Yousef Al Shawarbeh
– Nicholas You

Agreed on

Smart city solutions must be people-centered and context-specific


WSIS process needs institutionalization of local and regional governments through regular consultation on standardization and digital infrastructure development

Explanation

The World Summit on the Information Society process should formally include local and regional governments as stakeholders since they are responsible for implementing digital infrastructure and services at the ground level. This institutionalization would ensure their voices are heard in setting standards and policies that they must ultimately execute.


Evidence

Advocacy for regular consultation with local and regional governments on standardization and digital infrastructure development; recognition that they are ‘at the receiving end’ of these processes


Major discussion point

Governance and Multi-Stakeholder Collaboration


Topics

Infrastructure | Legal and regulatory


Incorporating views of climate-conscious generation is crucial for people-centric, climate-resilient smart cities

Explanation

Young people who are increasingly aware of and concerned about climate change must be central to urban planning and smart city development since they will live with the long-term consequences of today’s decisions. Their perspectives and expectations should shape how cities develop climate resilience strategies.


Major discussion point

Youth Engagement and Future Leadership


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Agreed with

– Johan Stander
– Jeong-Kee Kim
– Yousef Al Shawarbeh

Agreed on

Youth engagement is crucial for climate-conscious smart city development


Agreements

Agreement points

Youth engagement is crucial for climate-conscious smart city development

Speakers

– Johan Stander
– Jeong-Kee Kim
– Yousef Al Shawarbeh
– Anh Thu Duong

Arguments

1.8 billion youth will constitute 60% of urban population by 2030, but they need to be engaged in policy-making and solution co-development


WEGO’s Sustainable Smart Cities Champions Program builds students’ and young professionals’ expertise through online lectures and workshops to create climate-conscious future leaders


Building smart and climate-resilient cities requires fostering holistic vision that invests in digital infrastructure while ensuring inclusion of youth, women, and persons with disabilities


Incorporating views of climate-conscious generation is crucial for people-centric, climate-resilient smart cities


Summary

All speakers emphasized that young people must be actively involved in smart city planning and development, as they will be the primary urban residents and most affected by climate change decisions made today


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Smart city solutions must be people-centered and context-specific

Speakers

– Johan Stander
– Yousef Al Shawarbeh
– Nicholas You
– Anh Thu Duong

Arguments

Smart solutions must be adapted to local contexts – simple SMS warnings in Argentina and voice-over systems for illiterate populations in Senegal prove effective


Building smart and climate-resilient cities requires fostering holistic vision that invests in digital infrastructure while ensuring inclusion of youth, women, and persons with disabilities


Cities must rethink management at neighborhood level, asking communities what their priorities are for resilience, which varies by neighborhood characteristics


Smart city development must address people’s needs and expectations, particularly climate-conscious and climate-resilient urban futures


Summary

Speakers agreed that effective smart cities must prioritize human needs over technology, adapting solutions to local contexts and ensuring inclusive participation in planning processes


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Integration of climate action with smart city strategies is essential

Speakers

– Tomas Lamanauskas
– Yousef Al Shawarbeh
– Nadia Verjee

Arguments

Cities account for 70% of global CO2 emissions and are vulnerable to climate shocks, requiring smart connectivity for both mitigation and adaptation


Climate Action Plan aims to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 60% by 2040 and achieve carbon neutrality by 2050 through integrated smart city strategy


Expo City Dubai diverted 93% of waste from landfill, increased solar energy production by 9%, and reduced grid consumption by 21% through embedded sustainability design


Summary

Speakers emphasized that smart city development cannot be separated from climate action, requiring integrated approaches that address both emissions reduction and climate adaptation


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Similar viewpoints

Both speakers emphasized the critical importance of robust early warning systems that can reach all populations, with ITU and WMO working together to ensure communication infrastructure resilience during disasters

Speakers

– Tomas Lamanauskas
– Johan Stander

Arguments

ITU helps through satellite communication backup when mobile systems fail, ensuring warning messages reach everyone at no cost


Early Warnings for All initiative aims to protect everyone on the planet by 2027 through four-pillar approach: understanding risk, infrastructure, communication, and reaching last people


Topics

Infrastructure | Development


Both speakers highlighted the importance of standardized frameworks and metrics that allow cities to measure and compare their smart city progress globally

Speakers

– Tomas Lamanauskas
– Nadia Verjee

Arguments

Two thousand cities worldwide have adopted key performance indicators from United for Smart, Sustainable Cities initiative for standardized progress tracking


WEGO developed urban framework helping cities benchmark across global standards with metrics focused on sustainability, innovation, R&D, and international cooperation


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Both speakers emphasized that high-tech solutions are not always the answer, and that accessibility and inclusion must be prioritized to ensure smart city benefits reach all populations

Speakers

– Johan Stander
– Nicholas You

Arguments

Smart solutions must be adapted to local contexts – simple SMS warnings in Argentina and voice-over systems for illiterate populations in Senegal prove effective


COVID-19 revealed that despite 30-40 years of smart city tools, many people were left behind due to digital divides and lack of access to basic services


Topics

Development | Human rights


Unexpected consensus

Need for governance transformation beyond technology implementation

Speakers

– Nicholas You
– Yousef Al Shawarbeh
– Anh Thu Duong

Arguments

People-centered approach requires breaking down silos and adopting systems approach with communities at forefront of decision-making process


Building smart and climate-resilient cities requires fostering holistic vision that invests in digital infrastructure while ensuring inclusion of youth, women, and persons with disabilities


WSIS process needs institutionalization of local and regional governments through regular consultation on standardization and digital infrastructure development


Explanation

Unexpectedly, speakers from different backgrounds (academic, municipal, and international organization) all emphasized that smart cities require fundamental governance changes, not just technological upgrades. This suggests a mature understanding that technology alone cannot solve urban challenges without institutional reform


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Measurement systems need fundamental redesign to focus on human outcomes

Speakers

– Nicholas You
– Tomas Lamanauskas
– Nadia Verjee

Arguments

Current utility measurements across dozen countries still focus on cubic meters, tons, kilometers rather than people-centered metrics


Two thousand cities worldwide have adopted key performance indicators from United for Smart, Sustainable Cities initiative for standardized progress tracking


WEGO developed urban framework helping cities benchmark across global standards with metrics focused on sustainability, innovation, R&D, and international cooperation


Explanation

There was unexpected consensus that current measurement approaches are inadequate, with speakers agreeing that metrics must shift from technical outputs to human-centered outcomes, despite coming from different organizational perspectives


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Overall assessment

Summary

Speakers demonstrated strong consensus on the need for people-centered, climate-integrated smart city approaches that prioritize youth engagement, local context adaptation, and governance transformation over pure technological solutions


Consensus level

High level of consensus with significant implications for smart city development, suggesting a paradigm shift from technology-first to human-needs-first approaches. This consensus indicates that the smart cities field is maturing beyond initial technology enthusiasm toward more holistic, inclusive, and sustainable urban development models that recognize the interconnected nature of digital transformation, climate action, and social equity.


Differences

Different viewpoints

Definition and approach to smart city development

Speakers

– Nadia Verjee
– Nicholas You

Arguments

Expo City Dubai diverted 93% of waste from landfill, increased solar energy production by 9%, and reduced grid consumption by 21% through embedded sustainability design


Cities must rethink management at neighborhood level, asking communities what their priorities are for resilience, which varies by neighborhood characteristics


Summary

Nadia Verjee advocates for a top-down, comprehensive design approach where sustainability is embedded from the beginning in new cities, while Nicholas You argues for a bottom-up, neighborhood-level approach that adapts to existing urban contexts and community-defined priorities.


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Technology complexity and accessibility in smart city solutions

Speakers

– Johan Stander
– Nicholas You

Arguments

Smart solutions must be adapted to local contexts – simple SMS warnings in Argentina and voice-over systems for illiterate populations in Senegal prove effective


COVID-19 revealed that despite 30-40 years of smart city tools, many people were left behind due to digital divides and lack of access to basic services


Summary

Johan Stander emphasizes that simple, low-tech solutions can be effective when properly adapted to local contexts, while Nicholas You argues that existing smart city approaches have fundamentally failed to address digital divides and exclusion, requiring more systemic changes.


Topics

Development | Human rights


Unexpected differences

Role of governance structures in smart city implementation

Speakers

– Nadia Verjee
– Nicholas You

Arguments

Expo City serves as testbed for UAE’s net zero 2050 targets, piloting solutions that can be adapted and scaled elsewhere, particularly in global south


People-centered approach requires breaking down silos and adopting systems approach with communities at forefront of decision-making process


Explanation

This disagreement is unexpected because both speakers advocate for people-centered approaches, yet they have fundamentally different views on governance. Verjee celebrates governance agility and top-down efficiency, while You argues that existing governance structures are the problem and need to be fundamentally restructured to put communities in charge.


Topics

Development | Sociocultural


Overall assessment

Summary

The main areas of disagreement center around the approach to smart city development (top-down vs. bottom-up), the role of technology complexity, measurement systems, and governance structures. While all speakers agree on the importance of people-centered, climate-resilient cities, they differ significantly on implementation strategies.


Disagreement level

Moderate disagreement level with significant implications. The disagreements reflect fundamental philosophical differences about urban development approaches that could lead to very different policy outcomes. However, the disagreements are constructive and focus on methodology rather than goals, suggesting potential for synthesis and learning across approaches.


Partial agreements

Partial agreements

Similar viewpoints

Both speakers emphasized the critical importance of robust early warning systems that can reach all populations, with ITU and WMO working together to ensure communication infrastructure resilience during disasters

Speakers

– Tomas Lamanauskas
– Johan Stander

Arguments

ITU helps through satellite communication backup when mobile systems fail, ensuring warning messages reach everyone at no cost


Early Warnings for All initiative aims to protect everyone on the planet by 2027 through four-pillar approach: understanding risk, infrastructure, communication, and reaching last people


Topics

Infrastructure | Development


Both speakers highlighted the importance of standardized frameworks and metrics that allow cities to measure and compare their smart city progress globally

Speakers

– Tomas Lamanauskas
– Nadia Verjee

Arguments

Two thousand cities worldwide have adopted key performance indicators from United for Smart, Sustainable Cities initiative for standardized progress tracking


WEGO developed urban framework helping cities benchmark across global standards with metrics focused on sustainability, innovation, R&D, and international cooperation


Topics

Development | Infrastructure


Both speakers emphasized that high-tech solutions are not always the answer, and that accessibility and inclusion must be prioritized to ensure smart city benefits reach all populations

Speakers

– Johan Stander
– Nicholas You

Arguments

Smart solutions must be adapted to local contexts – simple SMS warnings in Argentina and voice-over systems for illiterate populations in Senegal prove effective


COVID-19 revealed that despite 30-40 years of smart city tools, many people were left behind due to digital divides and lack of access to basic services


Topics

Development | Human rights


Takeaways

Key takeaways

Smart cities must integrate climate resilience from the outset, with cities being both major contributors (70% of CO2 emissions) and victims of climate change


A people-centered approach is essential for effective smart city development, requiring consultation with local communities at the neighborhood level to understand their specific needs


Digital technologies and early warning systems can save lives when adapted to local contexts – from high-tech solutions to simple SMS and voice messages for illiterate populations


Youth engagement is critical as 60% of the 1.8 billion youth globally will live in cities by 2030, and they must be involved in policy-making and solution development


Local and regional governments are on the front lines of implementation and must be institutionalized in international processes like WSIS for effective smart city governance


Smart city success requires breaking down institutional silos and adopting systems approaches that put communities at the center of decision-making


Technology alone is insufficient – smart cities need inclusive governance that ensures all populations, including marginalized groups, have access to services and benefits


Standardized frameworks and KPIs are needed to measure progress, but metrics must shift from technical measurements to people-centered indicators


Resolutions and action items

ITU to continue supporting cities through Early Warnings for All initiative to protect everyone by 2027


WEGO to launch inaugural Global Youth Award in 2025 to recognize exceptional young leaders in smart cities and climate action


Expo City Dubai to host Asia-Pacific City Summit and Mayor’s Forum to bring regional leaders together for knowledge sharing


Cities to adopt United for Smart, Sustainable Cities KPI framework for standardized progress tracking


Local and regional governments to be more systematically consulted in WSIS processes and digital infrastructure standardization


Cities to implement neighborhood-level data collection and community-driven priority setting for resilience planning


Unresolved issues

How to ensure adequate funding for digital infrastructure in developing countries where high-tech solutions may not be accessible


How to effectively bridge institutional silos that prevent integrated smart city approaches despite decades of available tools


How to scale successful pilot projects and innovations from test-bed cities like Expo City Dubai to legacy cities with existing infrastructure constraints


How to develop people-centered metrics that replace current technical measurements (cubic meters, tons, kilometers) with human-focused indicators


How to balance the need for rapid urbanization (60% of population in cities by 2030) with inclusive, sustainable development


How to ensure intergenerational equity and meaningful youth participation in urban governance beyond consultation


Suggested compromises

Use hybrid approaches combining high-tech and low-tech solutions based on local contexts and resources (SMS in Argentina, voice messages in Senegal)


Implement bottom-up community-driven approaches while maintaining city-wide coordination and standards


Balance rapid innovation and pilot testing with inclusive governance that ensures no communities are left behind


Combine global frameworks and standards with local adaptation and community-specific solutions


Integrate climate mitigation and adaptation strategies within smart city development rather than treating them as separate initiatives


Thought provoking comments

Speaking to the converted youth, everybody knows that by 2030, 60 percent of the population will live around urban areas… Not everybody thinks that 1.8 billion people constitute the youth and by 2030, 60% of those we define as youth will live in these cities. However, are we engaging them enough when policies need to be written or decisions need to be taken? Are we co-developing solutions with them?

Speaker

Johan Stander


Reason

This comment reframes the entire discussion by challenging the assumption that youth engagement is adequate. It introduces the concept of ‘co-development’ rather than just consultation, and highlights a critical gap between demographic reality and policy-making processes.


Impact

This comment shifted the conversation from technical solutions to human-centered governance. It influenced subsequent speakers like Jeong-Kee Kim to elaborate on WEGO’s youth programs and Nicholas You to emphasize bottom-up approaches. It established youth engagement as a central theme throughout the remaining discussion.


We’ve moved away from forecasting. We’ve moved into impact-based forecasting. What should you do? Not what the weather will be, but you as an individual, what you should do when these conditions are expected in the city.

Speaker

Johan Stander


Reason

This represents a fundamental paradigm shift from information provision to actionable guidance. It challenges the traditional meteorological approach and emphasizes individual agency and practical response over technical data.


Impact

This comment introduced the concept of actionable intelligence, which resonated through later discussions about people-centered approaches. It helped establish the framework that technology should serve human needs rather than exist for its own sake.


Some people may say, but this is all high-tech. When high-tech works, great, we’re all happy. But high-tech technology, the funding for that is not always accessible… So two examples. One from Argentina, a city called Lujan… they send out a particular warning for a particular city and what the people should do on SMS. No smart technologies, just information… Another example is in Senegal… they’ve realized that the majority of their population is illiterate… So they’ve moved into a voice-over warning system.

Speaker

Johan Stander


Reason

This comment challenges the high-tech bias in smart city discussions by demonstrating that effective solutions can be low-tech and context-appropriate. It introduces equity considerations and shows that ‘smart’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘sophisticated technology.’


Impact

This fundamentally altered the definition of ‘smart cities’ throughout the discussion. Later speakers, including the Mayor of Amman and Nicholas You, built on this theme by emphasizing that smart city solutions must be inclusive and adapted to local contexts rather than imposing universal high-tech solutions.


What happened five years ago? The world was hit by this pandemic and I think it was a gigantic wake-up call. We discovered in cities both in the global north and the global south that many people and many places were being left behind… Despite the fact that we have smart city tools around for almost 30-40 years, what went wrong?

Speaker

Nicholas You


Reason

This comment provides a critical historical perspective that challenges the entire smart cities movement. By using COVID-19 as a lens, it reveals fundamental flaws in existing approaches and questions decades of smart city development.


Impact

This comment served as a turning point that brought critical analysis to what had been a largely promotional discussion. It forced a reckoning with the limitations of current approaches and set up his subsequent argument about the need to break down silos and truly center people in urban planning.


The reason I want to turn the clock back is because if we look at how smart city approaches have been applied to cities, they have been largely following the existing structure of cities… we have still not overcome those silos. So the real challenge for us going forward is how do we use digital tools and hopefully use AI intelligently to help us bridge those silos.

Speaker

Nicholas You


Reason

This comment identifies a fundamental structural problem that explains why smart city initiatives often fail. It moves beyond surface-level solutions to address systemic governance issues and proposes a new role for technology as a bridge-builder rather than a solution in itself.


Impact

This insight reframed the entire discussion about the purpose of smart city technology. It connected with earlier themes about people-centered approaches and provided a structural explanation for why consultation and bottom-up approaches are necessary rather than just preferable.


We recently did a study, we looked at utilities across a dozen different countries and we’re still measuring cubic meters, tons, kilometers, kilowatts, etc. We don’t see people there. So, the best way that we found to approach this problem is to put people in charge.

Speaker

Nicholas You


Reason

This comment exposes a fundamental measurement problem in urban governance – that current metrics are dehumanized. It challenges the entire framework of how cities evaluate success and proposes a radical shift toward human-centered metrics.


Impact

This comment provided concrete evidence for the abstract concept of ‘people-centered’ approaches discussed throughout the panel. It gave practical meaning to earlier discussions about youth engagement and inclusive design by showing how measurement systems themselves exclude people.


Overall assessment

These key comments fundamentally transformed what could have been a typical technology-focused smart cities discussion into a critical examination of power, inclusion, and effectiveness. Johan Stander’s interventions early in the discussion established youth engagement and practical accessibility as central themes, while his examples of low-tech solutions challenged high-tech assumptions. Nicholas You’s historical analysis using COVID-19 as a lens provided a critical framework that questioned the entire smart cities movement, leading to deeper structural insights about silos and measurement systems. Together, these comments created a progression from identifying problems (youth exclusion, high-tech bias) to understanding root causes (structural silos, dehumanized metrics) to proposing solutions (co-development, people-centered measurement). The discussion evolved from promotional presentations about smart city initiatives to a more nuanced conversation about governance, equity, and the fundamental purpose of urban technology.


Follow-up questions

How can we ensure more regular consultation with local and regional governments on standardization and digital infrastructure development?

Speaker

Anh Thu Duong


Explanation

This addresses the need for institutionalization of local and regional governments in the WSIS process, as they are at the receiving end of digital infrastructure decisions


Are we engaging youth enough when policies need to be written or decisions need to be taken? Are we co-developing solutions with them?

Speaker

Johan Stander


Explanation

This highlights the gap in youth engagement in policy-making processes, particularly important since 60% of youth will live in cities by 2030 and they are experiencing the brunt of climate change


How can cities cope with infrastructure challenges related to extreme weather – intense rainfall, flash floods, extreme heat?

Speaker

Johan Stander


Explanation

This addresses the practical infrastructure resilience needs that cities must address as climate events become more frequent and intense


What about sea level rise impacts on cities close to the ocean, particularly when water outlets cannot flow into the ocean due to high waves and sea level rise?

Speaker

Johan Stander


Explanation

This identifies a specific infrastructure challenge for coastal cities that needs further research and solutions


How do we use digital tools and AI intelligently to help bridge silos in city governance to meet green, climate and digital transitions?

Speaker

Nicholas You


Explanation

This addresses the fundamental challenge of overcoming sectoral silos in city management that prevent effective smart city implementation


How do we re-look at all KPIs sector by sector to make sure people are at the center, moving beyond measuring cubic meters, tons, kilometers, kilowatts to measuring people-centered outcomes?

Speaker

Nicholas You


Explanation

This calls for fundamental research into developing new measurement frameworks that prioritize human-centered metrics over technical metrics


How can solutions tested in cities like Expo City Dubai be adapted and scaled elsewhere, particularly in the global south?

Speaker

Nadia Verjee


Explanation

This addresses the need for research on transferability and adaptation of smart city solutions across different contexts and economic conditions


How do we build frameworks that measure not just smartness, but focus on impact – on emissions, equity, and human dignity?

Speaker

Nadia Verjee


Explanation

This calls for developing new evaluation frameworks that go beyond technical smartness to measure real-world impact on climate and social outcomes


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