WSIS Forum 2026
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The Next Byte – Shaping Human-Centred Internet Governance

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Summary

This session to discussed the future direction of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) following its recent permanent mandate from the UN General Assembly and the upcoming IGF in December 2026 to be held in Kenya .

Amb Thigo framed Kenya's hosting theme 'Governing the Internet in the Age of Intelligence: Our Shared Responsibility' around a fundamental shift from an information society to an intelligent society, emphasising that the internet now encompasses the full technology stack, including compute, data, and talent . He stressed that with four years remaining until 2030, significant challenges persist, including connectivity gaps, digital rights erosion, and populations that are online but unsafe . He also highlighted that the IGF remains the only genuine multistakeholder dialogue space, a quality he found lacking in other recent UN AI processes .

Jennifer Chung outlined the IGF MAG's priorities, including curating a programme responsive to persistent digital divides, improving the coherence of intersessional work throughout the year, and enhancing user experience for newcomers . She also stressed the importance of operationalising the WSIS outcomes, noting that National and Regional Initiatives serve as natural implementers of those commitments .

Sergey Rybakov presented the IGF's Dynamic Coalition on Environment's report on AI and the environment, describing it as the first document to unite countries including the US, China, India, and Russia on topics spanning desertification, biodiversity, climate change, and water scarcity . He outlined plans to present the report at three upcoming COP31 and the UN Water Conference ahead of the IGF in Nairobi .

Audience discussion raised concerns about how IGF outputs are translated into actionable inputs for other policy processes, the need for better formats to produce more substantive outcomes, and whether the IGF's branding around internet governance limits its reach compared to broader framings such as AI governance . Participants and panellists agreed that intentional formatting of outputs, stronger linkages with other forums, and celebrating the IGF's core strength as a dialogue platform are essential steps forward .

Keypoints
  • Overall Purpose

  • The session discussed the future direction of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) following its newly secured permanent mandate within the UN. The discussion aimed to explore how the IGF can address digital divides, integrate AI governance, manage AI's environmental impact, and improve the translation of IGF outputs into actionable policy outcomes across global processes.
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  • Major Discussion Points

  • The IGF's Permanent Mandate and Kenya's Hosting Theme
  • Following the UN General Assembly's reaffirmation of the IGF and the granting of a permanent mandate , Kenya's chairmanship is framed around the theme 'Governing the Internet in the Age of Intelligence: Our Shared Responsibility.' Amb Thigo described a fundamental societal shift from an information society to an intelligent society , noting that the internet now encompasses the entire technological stack - compute, data, talent, and use cases - not merely connectivity . He stressed that with four years remaining until 2030, significant unfinished business remains, including lagging connectivity, populations not yet online, and erosion of digital rights and civic space . Kenya aims to demonstrate how inclusive, multistakeholder dialogue can be practically co-created .
  • Closing Digital Divides and Ensuring Meaningful Inclusion
  • A persistent theme throughout the session was the need to address what Jennifer Chung and Amb Thigo framed as 'opportunity divides' . The MAG's top priorities include curating a programme that serves the entire global community, particularly those who are underrepresented or entirely unaware of the IGF . Chung emphasised improving the user experience for newcomers and ensuring that the IGF's intersessional work - including National, Regional, and Sub-Regional Initiatives (NRIs) - is coherent, streamlined, and accessible . The resolution also stressed the urgent need to close digital divides and ensure all countries benefit from emerging technologies .
  • AI Governance and the IGF as a Multi-Stakeholder Dialogue Platform
  • A significant portion of the discussion centred on whether the IGF could and should serve as the primary platform for substantive, multistakeholder AI governance dialogue - a role seen as currently lacking in other UN processes . Audience member Anriette Esserhausen called for the IGF to leverage its convening strength ahead of key AI governance milestones, including the UN AI dialogue in New York and the Swiss summit . Amb Thigo acknowledged the IGF as a 'dialogue of dialogues' and suggested the high-level segment in Nairobi could be deliberately structured around inclusive AI governance . Chung confirmed that the IGF community would certainly address this topic in Nairobi, potentially within the high-level track .
  • AI and Environmental Sustainability: The Dynamic Coalition's Report
  • Sergey Rybakov presented the work of the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Environment, which produced a report covering AI's impact across desertification, biological diversity, climate change, and water scarcity . The report unites countries - including the United States, China, India, Russia, and the EU - that had not previously collaborated on this topic in a single document . Rybakov outlined plans to present the report at three upcoming COPs and the UN Water Conference , with the aim of feeding into the UN Secretary-General's Transparency Initiative . He framed the report as a case study in the power of the IGF's multistakeholder structure to elevate civil society positions to the highest UN levels .
  • Translating IGF Outputs into Actionable Policy Inputs
  • A recurring concern raised by both panellists and audience members was the difficulty of connecting IGF outputs to other global policy processes. Walter Nathans questioned how intersessional work, session outputs, and external forum contributions could be better curated and linked . Chung acknowledged that outputs must be intentionally formatted and targeted to speak the language of their intended audiences , and Massango stressed the need for structured, synergetic cooperation so that one forum's output becomes another's input . Esserhausen also raised the question of whether the IGF's branding around "internet governance" was limiting its reach compared to broader framings such as "AI governance," and called for improved formats to produce more substantive outcomes .
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  • Overall Tone

  • The overall tone of the discussion was constructive, collegial, and forward-looking. Speakers and audience members shared a clear sense of collective purpose, particularly in light of the IGF's newly secured permanent mandate. There was an atmosphere of cautious optimism - panellists celebrated the mandate as a significant achievement while acknowledging the weight of responsibility it brings. The tone remained consistently collaborative throughout, with audience contributions welcomed and actively incorporated into the dialogue. Towards the latter part of the session, a mild undercurrent of urgency emerged, particularly around the need to improve the IGF outputs, broaden its reach, and ensure it does not miss the opportunity presented by the current AI governance moment . The closing remarks were notably celebratory and encouraging, with all three panellists encouraging community participation and expressing enthusiasm for the Nairobi IGF .
Speakers Overview
CM
Chengetai Massango
130 wpm · 9 min
AP
Ambassador Philip Thigo
158 wpm · 7 min
JC
Jennifer Chung
162 wpm · 12 min
SR
Sergey Rybakov
169 wpm · 7 min
A
Audience
151 wpm · 9 min

Expanded Summary: Shaping Human-Centred Internet Governance

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Session Overview and Context

The session, titled "Shaping Human-Centred Internet Governance," was convened during what moderator Chengetai Massango, head of the IGF Secretariat, acknowledged was a challenging Friday slot, noting that attendance at end-of-week sessions tends to be lower . The discussion brought together three principal speakers: Ambassador Philip Thigo, Kenya's Technology Envoy and alternate co-chair for the host country ; Jennifer Chung, the IGF's Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) Chair ; and Sergey Rybakov, co-chair of the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Environment . The session was framed around a significant institutional milestone: the UN General Assembly's reaffirmation of the IGF and the granting of a permanent mandate under Resolution 8173 in the WSIS Plus 20 review . Massango noted that the resolution also stressed the urgent need to close digital divides and ensure that all countries and stakeholders benefit from both existing and emerging technologies . With 45 minutes available, Massango indicated that the session would prioritise discussion over presentations , and a quick show of hands confirmed that a portion of the audience was unfamiliar with the IGF, establishing the starting point for the conversation .

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Kenya's Hosting Theme and the Shift to an Intelligent Society

Ambassador Thigo opened by situating Kenya's chairmanship within a broader historical arc, observing that those present in 2005 at the original World Summit on the Information Society would recognise that the internet of 2025 is fundamentally different from what it was then . Where 2005 was characterised by an information society, the present moment is defined by an intelligent society - a shift he described as fundamental . This evolution, he argued, requires governance frameworks to look back at what has happened between 2005 and 2025 and assess what has changed . Crucially, the internet is no longer merely about connectivity; it now encompasses the entire technology stack, including compute, data, talent, and use cases . Thigo introduced the concept of the internet as an "opportunity device" rather than simply a digital device, reframing the challenge of inequality from one of access to one of benefit .

With four years remaining until the 2030 Sustainable Development Goals deadline, Thigo stressed that significant unfinished business persists . Connectivity and electricity access continue to lag behind, populations remain offline, and those who are online are not always safe . He also highlighted the erosion of civic space and digital rights as pressing concerns . Kenya's hosting theme - "Governing the Internet in the Age of Intelligence: Our Shared Responsibility" - was designed to address this full spectrum of challenges, encompassing rights, responsibilities, and the conditions for humans to live and coexist in an intelligent society . Thigo also made a pointed observation about the IGF's unique institutional value: he described it as currently the only space for genuine multi-stakeholder dialogue, noting that he had been involved in designing the UN AI Advisory Board process but felt it still lacked the multi-stakeholder dimension . For Kenya, the task is to demonstrate practically how inclusive, co-created, multi-stakeholder dialogue can be done .

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MAG Priorities: Inclusion, Intersessional Work, and WSIS Implementation

Jennifer Chung welcomed Thigo's framing of "opportunity divides," noting that it precisely captures the challenge of reaching unrepresented and underrepresented communities - those who are not in the room, either physically or remotely, and who may never have heard of the IGF . She acknowledged that while the MAG bears significant responsibility for curating a programme that serves the entire global community, the challenge of reaching new audiences is shared across the community . The achievement of a permanent mandate, she argued, heightens rather than diminishes this responsibility, as it creates an obligation to realise the next trajectory of the IGF .

Chung outlined several interconnected priorities for the MAG. The first and most fundamental is the programme itself, with the host country and MAG having agreed on the bold overarching theme of governing the internet in the age of intelligence . She noted that intelligence, in its many forms, is a topic permeating the entire week's discussions - pointedly alluding to artificial intelligence specifically, which she declined to name directly, remarking that it was "just next door," as the most obvious form of intelligence being discussed that week . The IGF's strength lies in its rootedness in multi-stakeholder processes and its capacity to convene genuine dialogue - bringing people to talk with each other rather than at each other . Persistent digital divides and meaningful inclusion serve as the North Star for every aspect of the MAG's programme-building work .

A second major priority is improving the coherence of intersessional work throughout the year. Chung was emphatic that the IGF is not a single annual event but a continuous process, with intersessional activities providing a broad body of work comprising outputs, best practices, and lessons that can be drawn upon . The MAG has the task of streamlining this work to make it coherent and clear . Drawing on her background in the technical community, Chung also emphasised the importance of user experience, describing the goal of ensuring that a newcomer to the IGF can immediately identify relevant sessions and find opportunities to engage with stakeholders from government, private sector, technical community, civil society, and youth . Finally, she stressed the importance of operationalising the WSIS outcomes, noting that the outcomes document tasks the IGF with specific responsibilities including closer collaboration with the WSIS architecture, the WSIS Forum, and reporting into CSTD and the 2027 review of Global Digital Compact commitments . She highlighted that the IGF's over 180 National, Regional, Sub-Regional, and Youth Initiatives are natural implementers of WSIS commitments , and referenced a session the previous afternoon that had explored in depth what it means for NRIs and other intersessional work to take WSIS implementation forward . She closed her first round by inviting input and questions from the room .

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AI and Environmental Governance: The Dynamic Coalition's Report

Sergey Rybakov began with warm acknowledgements to the IGF Secretariat, the MAG, and his co-chair, before turning to the substance of the Dynamic Coalition on Environment's work . He noted that the UN Secretary-General had announced a Transparency Initiative in London and at the Global Dialogue, and that while the coalition's report on AI and the environment is not yet formally part of that initiative, there is a clear aspiration to incorporate it in future iterations .

The report, Rybakov explained, is distinctive in covering topics that no single document has previously addressed together: desertification, biological diversity, climate change, and water issues . It also brings together countries - including the United States, China, India, Russia, and the European Union - that have not previously been united on this topic in one document . The report is structured around three tracks: timeliness, reflecting the right moment for governance decisions about AI's environmental impact ; comprehensiveness, addressing the full life cycle of AI from land, water, energy, carbon, and critical minerals through to electronic waste ; and partnership, acknowledging the contributions of institutions including the China Institute of Udan University, the Palais India Foundation, and Professor Jeffrey Sachs of Columbia University, who wrote the foreword .

Massango commended the Dynamic Coalition's work immediately following Rybakov's presentation, observing that AI and environment is an increasingly pertinent and widely discussed topic and that the coalition is "ahead of the curve" in addressing it .

Looking ahead, Rybakov described 2025 as a "super year" for environment, with three Conferences of the Parties scheduled . The coalition plans to present the report at COP17 on desertification in Mongolia in August , COP17 on biological diversity in Armenia in October , and the UNFCCC COP in Turkey in November . Additionally, the UN Water Conference in the UAE, scheduled shortly before the Nairobi IGF, will address artificial intelligence as a major topic . The coalition intends to update the report with details gathered at these events and present first results at the Nairobi IGF, with a view to publishing a second report the following year . Rybakov expressed openness to all partners and contributors, framing the report as the beginning of a wheel of change .

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Audience Discussion: AI Governance, Output Connectivity, and IGF Positioning

The floor discussion opened with Felix Guimard of the UN Economic Commission for Europe expressing support for the environmental impact study and describing UNECE's own ongoing research into water consumption of data centres and AI technologies, particularly in Central Asian countries where water scarcity is a significant concern . He expressed willingness to cooperate on these studies .

Marta Botterman, speaking on behalf of the Marconi Society, raised the theme of resilience, arguing that it must be treated as a cross-cutting concern across all layers of the internet stack rather than being confined to a single layer . She noted that emergency networks, for example, cannot function without power, illustrating the interdependencies involved , and recommended that resilience be a core theme in programme development .

A representative from Forrest, a global civil society network of national civil society platforms, asked how civil society at both national and global levels could support research and data-driven projects on AI and sustainability . Rybakov responded that the report is an open dialogue, welcoming contributions, best practices, and cooperation across all four areas covered, and that the Dynamic Coalition on Environment is working across all relevant forums and secretariats precisely to push this topic forward . Chung added that all IGF intersessional work is open for participation, directing interested parties to the Dynamic Coalition on Environment's mailing list and to the Policy Network on Artificial Intelligence, one of four policy networks approved for the current year .

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The IGF as a Platform for AI Governance Dialogue

The most substantive exchange of the session was prompted by Anriette Esserhausen, a past MAG member and MAG chair, who called for the IGF to serve as a platform for much more interactive and substantive AI engagement between stakeholders, governments, and non-state actors . She noted the strategic timing: the next AI dialogue is scheduled for May in New York, followed by the Swiss summit in June, making the December Nairobi IGF a natural midpoint . She also pointed to the wealth of existing IGF resources - the policy networks, dynamic coalitions, and the environment report - as assets that could be leveraged for this purpose , and asked when the IGF planned to formalise this role .

Ambassador Thigo responded affirmatively but with nuance, acknowledging that the IGF's multi-stakeholder model is precisely what is missing from other AI governance processes . He noted ongoing conversations with the Swiss government and others about the AI summit track, and acknowledged the structural challenge of how Geneva-based processes interact with New York-based ones . He suggested that the high-level segment of the Nairobi IGF could be deliberately structured around AI and the inclusive intelligent economy, rather than attempting to cover everything . He also reiterated his conception of the AI dialogue as a "dialogue of dialogues" - one that was designed to recognise existing dialogue spaces, of which the IGF is one, and to aggregate them upward . He called on those involved in the next phase of the dialogue to understand this aspect .

Chung confirmed that the IGF community would unquestionably address AI governance at Nairobi , noting that the IGF is well-practised at convening dialogues that bring people to the table to talk with each other rather than at each other . She acknowledged that coordination and protocol considerations would need to be addressed , but expressed confidence that the format - whether part of the high-level track or broader - would be determined in due course . She also committed to inviting the new co-facilitators of the AI dialogue to the IGF as soon as they are elected . Rybakov added a final note, urging the audience to view the Dynamic Coalition's report not merely as an environmental document but as a case study demonstrating how the IGF's structure enabled civil society to deliver its position at the highest UN levels, including to the Deputy Secretary-General .

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Curating Outputs and Connecting Processes

Walter Nathans, from the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Standards, Security and Safety, raised a structural concern that had been implicit throughout the session: how to curate the large volume of input coming from intersessional work, NRI sessions, and external fora, and how to establish better connections between the IGF and other processes . He observed that in three days at the event, he had not had the impression of much interaction between most sessions and the IGF, and that even IGF participants were sometimes not mentioning the IGF in other sessions . He asked how these connections could be made more effectively and how intersessional work could be curated more comprehensively .

Chung responded with candour, acknowledging that this is a persistent challenge requiring ongoing improvement . She argued that the key principle is speaking the language of the intended audience and presenting information in a format that can be immediately understood . This applies to UN processes, global processes, and the specific requirements of bodies such as the CSTD . She acknowledged that the linkage between the WSIS week and the IGF is an area requiring improvement at every level, from planning through to secretariat coordination . She stressed that it is not sufficient to make outputs available and expect others to engage with them; the process must be intentional and targeted . She expressed a preference for visually mapping where outputs need to go, describing the CSTD as a natural starting point . Massango reinforced this, arguing that synergetic cooperation must be structured so that one forum's output becomes the next forum's input . He specifically proposed that stakeholders attending other fora should be actively encouraged beforehand to look for opportunities to mention IGF work and make connections back to it, noting that he had personally observed missed opportunities during the week where such connections could have been made but were not .

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Branding, Formats, and the Value of Dialogue

Esserhausen returned to the floor for a second contribution, sharing a reflection prompted by her attendance at the Swiss government's open mic session at AI for Good, where she was struck by the large number of new people and the diverse cross-section of stakeholders engaging . She expressed a wish that the IGF could attract similar diversity, while acknowledging that the IGF does renew its community, with a significant proportion of first-time participants at each annual meeting . She raised the question of whether the IGF's primary brand of "internet governance" reaches a narrower audience than "AI governance," and asked whether the community wished to retain that focus or open it up - noting that any broadening would require rethinking the language used and the outreach approach . She also called for better formats to produce more substantive outcomes, and for the secretariat to have the capacity to take outputs into other policy fora . She closed, however, with a defence of the IGF's core identity, urging the community not to allow the "talk shop" characterisation to be used to denigrate the forum, and instead to celebrate having a space primarily dedicated to dialogue .

Massango endorsed this final point, noting that as the IGF seeks to be more focused and impactful, it should not stop celebrating its primary core strength as a place for dialogue . He thanked Esserhausen and invited final reflections from the panel .

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Closing Reflections

Ambassador Thigo reiterated that Kenya's co-chair role presents an opportunity to do things differently, describing Kenya as "a little bit disruptive" , and framed the first permanent IGF as a moment not to be lost . He made a "shameless plug" for Kenya's distinction as the first country to sponsor a UN resolution on the environmental impact of AI systems, covering the entire life cycle , directing participants to Kenya's mission to UNEP for those wishing to engage with the implementation of that resolution . Rybakov echoed the themes of opportunity and multi-stakeholder dialogue, recounting how the idea for the report had emerged from a conversation with Massango in India in February, and how it had progressed to a completed document by July, now being taken to Kenya - a country he described as a global frontrunner on environmental issues - and expressed gratitude for the IGF's existence and its newly permanent status . Chung closed with a call to action, urging the community to celebrate its ability to discuss difficult and important subjects and to listen as well as speak , reiterating that the MAG is listening to everything being said and recommended, and inviting the community to help shape the programme . She noted that all intersessional work is open for participation, with secretariat support available for those unsure how to engage , and announced that she had published a progress blog with office hours open across time zones for community members to share their hopes for the permanent IGF .

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Overall Assessment

The session demonstrated a high degree of consensus on overarching goals - closing digital and opportunity divides, leveraging the IGF's multi-stakeholder model in AI governance, improving the connectivity of IGF outputs to other processes, and addressing AI's environmental impact - while revealing meaningful divergences on methods, urgency, and institutional identity. The most significant strategic convergence was the rapid, cross-speaker adoption of the "opportunity divides" framing , and the broadly shared commitment to positioning the Nairobi IGF as a substantive platform for AI governance dialogue . The most productive tensions concerned whether the IGF's branding is too narrow , whether format reform is necessary alongside celebrating dialogue , and how to practically curate and connect the IGF's rich but diffuse outputs to other global processes . With the first permanent IGF approaching in Nairobi in December 2025, the session conveyed both the weight of the opportunity and the scale of the work still required to realise it.

Chengetai Massango
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you very much for attending this session. I know it's Friday, and having held a couple of meetings myself, we know that people normally tend to leave on Friday. But thank you for coming. This session is the next fight, Shaping Human -Centered Internet Governance. So, as you know, last December, the General Assembly, under Resolution 8173 in the WSIS Plus 20 review, reaffirmed the IGF and also gave the IGF a permanent. mandate in the UN, and we are very grateful for that and grateful for all your support. And again, you know, it's not just us, it's the community as well, so I think it's good for everybody. The resolution also stressed the urgent need to close digital divides and ensure that all countries and stakeholders benefit from both existing and emerging technologies. So, today we have 45 minutes, slightly less now, so we will try and move a little bit briskly, and since this is IGF, we will try and encourage more discussion than actually us talking to you. First question quickly, how many people are not familiar with the IGF? Thank you. Okay, great. So that's good. So we know where to start from. So that's good. First of all, let me introduce our speakers. I have the honor and pleasure of introducing, first of all, Ambassador Philip Thigo, who is the envoy on technology of Kenya and is also one of the alternate chairs, co -chairs for the host country. So he's here. And as you know, I mean, he's not purely government as well. I think he can call a multi -stakeholder as he is. He has experience, most of the sectors. So he's here. When you talk to him, you know that he actually understands the process. So that's an advantage for us as well. and then Jennifer Chung our chair for this year and next year presumably we presume next year as well but she's as you know she's I'm going to say this anyway she's very dynamic and she is we had our meeting in Nairobi two weeks ago right and I think it was a very very effective meeting so we're very happy to have her as the chair and then we have Sergey Rybakov who is the co -chair of the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Environment thank you we're very pleased to have him and he'll also tell you about the report that they produced which is very significant and he'll tell us a little bit more about that so I'll just first of all just ask one round of questions and then we'll go to the the audience for discussion and after that I might ask another round but let's see how it goes. So Ambassador Thigo Kenya's chairmanship is framed around a powerful theme governing the internet in the age of intelligence our shared responsibility could you share with us what this theme means for a human centered approach and what outcomes Kenya hopes to see at the Nairobi IGF in December.
Ambassador Philip Thigo
Thank you so much I think the one thing for sure that we were thinking as Kenya is that some of us were there in 2005 and I think the internet we can agree is not necessarily what it was in 2005. So I think at that time we were really dealing with an information society. We're actually dealing now with an intelligent society. So there's been a fundamental shift. And so I think for us it means that we still have to look at YC's plus 20 or YC's day zero and think about what has happened between 2005 and 2025. Of course, the world now is just not about digital devices. It's about opportunity devices. And the Internet for us has grown to the extent that we're just not talking about connectivity. We're actually talking about the entire stack, what basically underpins the current intelligent society. So whether you talk about the Internet, whether you talk about compute, whether you talk about data, whether you talk about talent, and especially the use cases. And I think the Internet, as much as you talk about it, is about delivering the Sustainable Development Goals. and for us I think we have to be clear that we are four years out so it's just not hosting IGF in Kenya and what it means it's also understanding where we are at in this moment in history, four years out from 2030 and yet we still have a lot of unfinished business connectivity is still lagging behind electricity is still lagging behind we still have populations that are not online but also we have populations that are online and that are not safe we also have of course erosion of civic space we have erosion of digital rights and so I think for Kenya it's very much looking at the entire frame around what happens on the internet how humans can live and coexist in this intelligent society but also still not forget the fundamental issues around rights, responsibilities but also because we live in a global system, I think finally it's very much an early right, it's just not necessarily a mistake that we get or people do not get it, but I think it's potentially the understanding that IGF currently remains the only space for multi -stakeholder dialogue. I was one of the people who really worked to give birth to this dialogue this year as part of the UN AI Advisory Board on AI, but I still feel it still lacked the multi -stakeholder aspect of it. And so I think for Kenya we have to show people how that's done and it's done practically in terms of how you co -create the process but also how you ensure that it is a living process where people can engage in a way that is representative and inclusive and not necessarily just around the topics or issues but
Chengetai Massango
No, thank you very much. It was very pertinent. And I also like the framing of opportunity divides as well. I mean, I think that's one way to frame it. Yes, the digital is AI, but it's also opportunity divides. That's right. My next question goes to the MAG chair Jennifer, as MAG chair you have the challenge of leading the MAG in shaping a program that responds to this rapidly shifting landscape. What are the MAG's top priorities for this year cycle especially when it comes to tackling persistent digital divides and ensuring meaningful inclusion?
Jennifer Chung
Thank you very much I'm very glad that Ambassador Thigo mentioned opportunity divides because that is that's clearly what it is unrepresented, underrepresented communities all the stakeholders we hope to bring to the IGF there was an aside earlier before we started about everybody in the room kind of have heard of IGF how to reach those we want to be at the IGF who hasn't heard of the IGF, are not in the room and not in the remote room, right? That's always the perennial question. And it's not just on the MAG. MAG is definitely a big part of it because we have the responsibility to curate and build a program that makes sense for the entire global community. And even more so this year because the success of last year, the WSIS outcomes, having the achievement of a permanent mandate also means it's a responsibility for all of us to make sure this permanent mandate, kind of the next trajectory of how the IGF can go, is realized. Around the room I see so many people who have been engaged for many, many years in the IGF. I see past MAG members, past MAG chairs, a lot of those who are very deep into the intersessional work streams, dynamic coalitions, I see NRIs around the room. There is so much potential in this and there's so many different... recommendations and advice, hopes and aspirations that have been articulated and documented through the last 20 years. We need to start looking at doing all of this. But we cannot fall into the trap of expecting everything to be done in this cycle. So the priorities for the MAG, of course, the first thing is the program. That's always the top priority of the MAG. And we are very fortunate to have had, you know, host country and the MAG agreed to a really bold, overarching theme, you know, governing the internet in the age of intelligence, our shared responsibility. Intelligence, you see around you, you see this whole week, people are talking about different forms of intelligence. Of course, there's the obvious one, the name of the forms, which I won't say, you know, it's just next door. But it's interesting to look at it in the point of view. The IGF is rooted in multi -stakeholder processes, models, dialogue. That's the strength. The beauty of that is that dialogue. Right. We've been missing a little bit of dialogue this this week, but we are very good at the IGF in convening the dialogue with the stakeholders, all the stakeholders around the table. So having that, you know, as the base and the backbone of it, then you can take a look at the persistent digital divides and meaningful, you know, ensuring meaningful inclusion and participation. I think that kind of is the North Star of where every single part of what the MAG is doing in terms of creating the overarching theme, in terms of creating and curating the building blocks of the content. That is kind of a persistent theme underneath all of that. Another very big topic goal for the for the MAG this year is how do we look at the intersessional work and bring it closer together? There is a lot of rich. of valuable lessons, valuable best practices, valuable outputs that come throughout the year. IGF is not a single event at the end of the year. Everyone comes, talks, and goes away. The intersessional work throughout the entire year also provides this rich tapestry of where we can draw on as well. So the MAG has the unenviable task to be able to streamline this, to make it coherent, to make it clear. And then finally, I know I'm just looking at the time as well. I come from the technical community. To me, user experience is really important, right? If somebody is coming into the IGF as a new person, someone who doesn't know what is going on, how do we make sure that person comes to the IGF and understands clearly, I'm interested in this, and these are the sessions that I can go to. These are the high -level places that I can meet and talk to different stakeholders, from government. From private sector, technical community, civil society, youth. from everywhere and talk about these issues that are very, very near and dear and they're passionate about. And then finally, I guess also very important, implementation of WSIS outcomes. So in that document, of course, besides celebrating the fact we have the permanent mandate, there are specific paragraphs that test the IGF to do certain things, to improve on certain processes, to work closer together with the WSIS architecture, to work with the WSIS forum to create a more coherent reporting into CSTD, into the 2027 review of the GDC commitments and the WSIS outcomes as well. How do we operationalize that? How do we implement that? Again, leveraging on the rich tapestry of intersectional work, of course. NRIs, National Regional Sub -Regional Youth Initiatives around the world, 180 plus, they are natural WSIS implementers. There was a very interesting... session yesterday afternoon where we kind of deep -dived into what it actually means. for NRIs or other intersessional work to actually be able to take this forward. I'll close with, well, the first round. I really hope to hear a lot of input, a lot of comments, a lot of questions from around the room to help me also to help the MAG together.
Chengetai Massango
You made very good points. How do we move from discussion to practical implementation? And also pointing out that the IGF is a continuous process. We're not just one meeting at the end of the year. A lot of intersessional activities, and it is an ongoing process. And, of course, what we have to look at now, which is also part of the practical implementation, is getting that synergetic collaboration with other fora in the WSIS framework and being able to do that. Thank you very much. Then my next question is to Sergey. Your dynamic coalition on environment recently contributed to a significant UN report on AI and the environment, which was featured just this week in the UN News. From that work, what is the most important governance gap you identified, and how can we harness AI for sustainability while managing its own environmental footprint?
Sergey Rybakov
Thank you. Thank you, and good morning. And I want to start as a newcomer with a great deal. First, Chengetai to you for your leadership and in your role to the leadership of IGF Secretariat, to the whole team who I met during these four days, so it's absolutely fantastic. Second, definitely. And to you and Dessa, Dennis, bravo also for the work you are doing, so fantastic. Marcus, a legend of IGF, it's my great pleasure to meet you, so absolutely thank you for your wise messages Jennifer, I just heard what you're saying, it's like really fantastic that you got such a chair of MAG, so it's very very important because what we usually say, the forum is not starting a week or a month before a forum, the forum starts at the same at the first day when the previous one ends, so and it's hard work and it has to be done by someone definitely I want to say thank you to all the and praise all the dynamic coalitions and definitely my co -chair great friend of mine Rajendra Gupta Nairobi Kenya, fantastic city I mean unbelievable city and I will tell you something that probably not so many people know, they got one of the best ice hockey teams in Africa called Kenyan Lions. We've played with them in Nairobi on the ice rink. So when you're going to be there, just visit them. It's worth it. Definitely. And the last but not least, Roman, thank you for your friendship. Thank you for your leadership also. Thank you for being here and organizing all that. So going to the report and try to be brief. In London, the UNSG announced the Transparency Initiative and he also announced it on the Global Dialogue on Monday. So our report on AI and environment, everyone is asking me here at all the conferences, at all the forums, whether it is a Transparency Initiative. I am saying no, but now I have to say not yet. So we will definitely try to make this report for next year being a part of the Transparency Initiative announced by the UNSG. So what is important about this report? It covers the topics that no one else have ever covered in one document. We speak about desertification, we speak about biological diversity, we speak about climate change and water issues. We unite countries that have never been united on this topic in one document. United States, China, India, Russia and BRICS community and definitely European Union, for sure. We got the best practice from European Union in this document. What is important here is the starting of a wheel of change. So we want to start a dialogue. So to be the first one to launch a dialogue to get as many partners as being it as multi -stakeholder as possible to raise probably one of the most important topics of our lifetime is environment and to connect it to technological issues. There are three tracks in this document. One is timelessness, so meaning that it's the right time to discuss the governance because it on the governments of different countries relies responsibility how AI... going to influence the environment, whether it will be for good or it will be for bad. So it's the right moment of time to discuss it. Comprehensiveness. We look for all the life cycle of AI, starting from land, water, energy, carbon, critical minerals, and going up to the electronical waste that we're going to see at the end. And definitely partnership. So we are very grateful to our partners. First of all, the China Institute of Udan University, to Professor Weiwei, one of the brightest people whom I've ever met. Definitely to Palais India Foundation. And the person who wrote a foreword for this document, Professor Jeffrey Sachs from Columbia University. We're very grateful for all these people for believing in us, supporting us, and helping us to move forward. Several words about the future. So this year is a super year for environment. So we're going to have three COPs, conferences for parties, upcoming. The first one is going to be COP17 on desertification in Mongolia. in August. We will be there and there is already a side event being confirmed on AI and desertification where I am going to be speaking and presenting the report. Definitely the second one is going to be COP17 on biological diversity. It is going to be in Armenia in October and we applied for a side event on AI and biological diversity to present the report. Definitely UNF people see a climate change convention that is going to be in Turkey in November. It will hold the topic of artificial intelligence. They are the leaders in terms of environmental programs on artificial intelligence and technological development. And then UN water conference. That will be several days before the upcoming IGF forum in Nairobi. The UN water conference is going to be in UAE. So definitely one of the biggest topics of this conference will be artificial intelligence and what is going to be next. So with our partners from Ufodan University we are very proud to announce that we will be very happy to be here. We are very happy to be here. COPs that will be this year and the UN Water Conference to make this report being updated with the details and for it to be presented next year. So definitely we want to to show the first results at IGF in Nairobi, so to present what was going on. And then, you know, hopefully next year we will be able to publish the second report and to continue this topic and this conversation. And we are ready to see all of you as partners, contributors to this topic. We think it's, like, really very, very important. And definitely, again, thanks to IGF for supporting us from the very beginning and making this all happen. Thank you.
Chengetai Massango
Thank you very much, Sergei. And as we all know that AI and environment has becoming a more and more pertinent topic, and it's being discussed more and more. And so I think you are actually ahead of the curve, so that's very good. Thank you. So that's the first round of questions. I would like to open the floor. You can ask questions about what you've just heard or anything else related. We're not going to discuss football, but I'm going to ask you a question about what you've just heard. I don't know if it's anything to do with the IGF. Thank you. anybody has got any questions? Yes, please.
Audience
Thank you. Well, maybe let me allow to break the ice. Felix Guimard, United Nations Economic Commission for Europe. I very much support the study on the environmental impact of digital economy. We are currently conducting a study on water consumptions of data centers of general usage of AI technologies, in particular in Central Asia, because we know that those countries are sometimes lacking water. But I think that these results can also be studied further, and we would like to cooperate on these studies, and also with anyone else who is interested in studying. Thank you. and happy to talk further on these topics and many other. Thank you.
Chengetai Massango
Anybody else? And does somebody keeping an eye on online, in case we have any online, Roman? Online, if you have any online. Yes, please.
Audience
Marta Botterman. I've been here to talk on behalf of Marconi Society about resilience as a crucial layer and not just for one of the layers, but it's the interdependencies, and it may be good if also the MEC considers that there's no layer who can be safe all by itself. It needs to go throughout the layers, and that thinking should be core and should also be core in how the intersessional work is brought in as well. I had a very good meeting about emergency networks this morning, but emergency networks don't work without power either and things like that. So I recommend that to be key. theme in the back of your mind when developing the program thank you very much.
Chengetai Massango
Yes, please.
Audience
Thank you so I'm Bibi from Forrest we are a global civil society network of actually national civil society platform so my question is about how can civil society especially at the national level but also at global level support also the research and the data driven projects that you're doing on AI and sustainability AI and environment if there may be any recommendations in the report or any ways in which we can support your work.
Chengetai Massango
Thank you very much for the questions okay I'll let you answer then we have Henriette sorry
Sergey Rybakov
Okay absolutely so first of all it's like an open dialogue so we are ready to share the report and if there will be any comments anything that you want to add there we are more than happy to do it all the best practices all the best practices that you think make sense in all the four spheres that we covered again as I said desertification, biological diversity, climate change and water scarcity we are more than happy to see all that because what we see is the lack of information in terms of technology and environment so the more we have the better so we are open for all the cooperation because that's why we are here that's why the dynamic coalition environment is working inside the IGF and that's why we are pushing this topic forward and that's why we are doing it on all the forums working with all the secretariats and going to be preparing to show it on all the upcoming COPs absolutely, thank you
Jennifer Chung
Thanks, just a quick response building on what Sergey has mentioned all of the IGF intersession work is open for everyone to participate I think Sergey mentioned the dynamic coalition environment please join, there is a mailing list if you don't know where it is, the secretary will definitely help you I will also, this is a call out again we have a policy network on artificial intelligence so that is also one of four that we have also approved this year please join, please put your input there help us shape that, thanks .
Audience
Thanks very much I'm Anriette Esserhausen I'm a past MAG member and MAG chair I echo everything that has been said and just to pick up on Jennifer's points particularly in the light of the limited dialogue that the traditional multilateral dialogue with an asterisk that says multi -stakeholder processes give us. Can we look at the IGF actually being this platform for a much more interactive and substantive AI engagement between stakeholders and governments and non -state actors? In terms of timing, it would be perfect because we have the New York, the next dialogue in May in New York. That's followed shortly after in June by the Swiss summit. Not a UN process, but still, you know, it's still a linked process. And then also draw on this wealth of human engagement and knowledge through the policy networks, through the dynamic coalitions. There's your report. There's the policy network on AI. Is that something that you are able? When will you start doing it? are planning to do it because of course it will require some kind of formal engagement with with the secretariat of the dialogue but I think certainly for those of us that are following this process it would be very welcome for the IGF to to be the platform because it has the strength to provide that kind of dialogue that we find is missing at the moment.
Ambassador Philip Thigo
I think you're right and this is sort of been our general observation because as I said I was part of designing these two institutions and it's just not the dialogue I will say also just push a little bit to this international scientific panel because I see a lot of the there's some knowledge products here that are not necessarily feeding into the panel and I think it will take kind of some of our member state colleagues to help us with this. I'm talking with the Swiss government on that with the other track of the AI summits of course we're having that conversation we're also of course very much mindful that the dialogue is going to be New York so it's going to also take how Geneva interacts with New York also because that's the other challenge but I think we can be very deliberate in December in terms of how we structure especially the high level the high level segment of the IGF to ensure that potentially maybe that's the topic so it should not be everything and everything but how do we ensure that AI or this intelligent kind of economy is inclusive. I think for me that's what I'm hearing here, inclusivity beyond even multi -stakeholder the core and crux of it is inclusivity and inclusivity not the level of participation but also they run up to the dialogue itself. Finally I think how we design the dialogue and I think anybody who's heard me speak in the panels is that the dialogue was supposed to be a dialogue of dialogues. It's not a dialogue which means it was to recognize existing dialogue spaces and I believe IGF is one of the existing dialogue spaces that then filters right up to the dialogue of dialogues. Potentially I think if we have that in our mind then let's see how we can get the the next coaches to understand that specific aspect of the global dialogue.
Jennifer Chung
Thank you, Henriette, for the question, and of course I'll say short everything that Ambassador Thigo said, but of course not just that. I think everybody here has been hearing a lot of feedback this week, and I've also heard a lot of aspirations and requests and hopes about that. I think I will reiterate the IGF agenda, the IGF program is shaped by the community. We're hearing it. Our ears are open. We see this, and I cannot stress enough that we are quite good at convening dialogues, and what Ambassador Tico meant is we're quite good at being able to bring people to the table to talk with each other, not at each other, which is not what a dialogue is as well. And all of these conversations It looks like, of course, coordination -wise, protocol -wise, there needs to be a little bit there, but I do not see that the IGF community, the global community, would not talk about this at Nairobi. Maybe I'll put it like that. And, of course, the IGF MAG still has a responsibility to shape and help build and curate the program with excellent support from the Secretariat. And now that we hear a lot of will and a lot of forward thinking by our host country, Kenya, I think we will have this conversation, this topic of conversation at the IGF. What format it will take, it's possible that it's part of the high -level track. It's possible it's more than that. But I think we have something good to look forward to. And as Henriette has mentioned, in the calendar kind of context, it is a good midpoint, and people will be there. That have the knowledge, expertise, and also the impact to be able to have this dialogue in Nairobi. and we are also going to let me just say one thing and we are going to invite the new co -facilitators to the IGF as soon as they're elected we'll send them an invitation and we trust they'll come.
Sergey Rybakov
Just a small remark from my side so please look at this report not as it's high environment but please look at it as a case study you know the dynamic coalition the civil society got an option to present its position and because of IGF because of the structure of IGF we were able to deliver it on a very very high level to the deputy UNSGs to the world so that's a case study that's the power of IGF we saw it we use it please also use it for global good that's very very important.
Audience
Thank you Walter Nathans from the board Dynamic Coalition on the Internet Standards, Security and Safety but more as an observation what I've heard yesterday, the day before I was in the NRI session yesterday and we were asked all sorts of questions but what I noticed is that somehow all this information has to come up and people can post it somewhere, there were all sorts of ideas about that but what is going to happen with it so it will need some sort of curation and the same is for what comes out of the IGF itself that's taken care of in the messages but then you have the intersectional work and the third pillar is the outside so how is that connection going to be made something that Henriette said as well I'm here for three days now, I've not been here for five but for three days I don't have the impression that there's a lot of interaction I'm here for three days now, I've not been here for five but for three days but for three days between most sessions and the IGF. Sometimes it's not even mentioned, despite people who are in the IGF are not mentioning it. So how can we establish that connection better? Because we do have tasks, as Jennifer said, and we need to be able to execute them, but we need partners to do that with. So how are we going to curate all the input that's coming up from the bottom? What sort of input do we need? Is there something that we would like to get from that bottom? Is it that everybody just throws something at the wall? How do we curate the intersessional work more comprehensively? And finally, how do we make the connections? So then I think, Sergey, your example is excellent, but you must have very important partners because otherwise most likely you would not be able to do that.
Jennifer Chung
So thank you for a lot of questions. These are the questions we always try to answer. We've tried to answer it in past years. We've had some improvements and we'll improve more. But to be really honest, this is a personal take, and also I think the MAG has heard enough of me kind of saying this as well. In order for your intended audience to receive this information, you have to speak their language. You have to have it in the format that they can take in and understand immediately. This means either UN processes, different processes, global processes that are going on. Clearly in the outcomes document, there are things that are tasked to the IGF where we have to work closer with the architecture, closer with the business forum. I know you mentioned these few days you saw not too much linkage is there. That's an area of improvement we need to do. I mean, all the way from the planning level, from the secretariat levels, from research. I'm going to ask the Secretary from DESA and ITU and the secretary at the MAG as well to be involved with that. But if you're talking about the wealth of IGF outputs, which we all recognize there is a lot of that there, it's not enough for us to just say, hey, this is all of it, and you can come to us if you want to know this rich output. It needs to be intentional. It needs to be targeted. Just like you mentioned, Sergey, and Dynamic Coalition on Environment, that's the intended or intentional format to be able to reach your intended audience. So the MAG also this year has that task to think about it a little more with, of course, good help and good assistance from the IGF secretary to be able to land these there. There's already a task for us to be able to input into the CSTD. That's a natural starting point. There are other processes that we have heard, you know, about the AI dialogue, the conversations around that. If we have some sort of dialogue at the IGF about how do we reflect that into there. So these are all the questions that we have that we need to answer. And then finally, I'll leave you with, I'm a very visual person. I think it's easier for me to understand it when it's mapped out. So I think mapping out where these outputs need to go.
Chengetai Massango
Thank you very much, Jennifer and Walt. Yes, very good questions. And I've been thinking about some of those questions as well, especially this week. But as our chair said, that yes, we have to intentionally format our outputs to more easily become inputs into the other processes. And as we mentioned earlier, this synergetic cooperation that we're having. So it's not just WSIS and then BRAIC and then it's the IGF, etc. We have to really structure it in such a way that one output is the input to the other one. carry on that way. And then we also have to remind stakeholders that when they do attend other fora, they should be thinking in the back of their heads, how can they make these connections and actually say it when they're in the meetings because, yes, I was listening to some people and I said, that was an excellent opportunity to mention this and we can have that collaboration but it wasn't mentioned. So sometimes I think maybe we should actually prime them and tell them that as they go, they should be thinking about these and how they can make connections between the two fora. Do we have any other questions? We have five minutes, so online or anything? Anybody? I encourage an online question.
Audience
and it can be you can always rely on me yes please if no one else is speaking I think I mean just to echo everything I think I just I want to share an interesting reflection or for me interesting I went to the Swiss government's open mic session at the AI for good a few days ago and I was just overwhelmed by the number of new people different ideas very different sort of cross section of stakeholders that were engaging and I just thought I wish we could have that at the IGF I mean we have a fantastic community in the IGF but we're not succeeding actually I think in and I think we are renewing that community and I have to the secretariat gives us metrics and I hope you all look at those metrics there's a very large percentage of first time people participants every and the IGF, contrary to popular perceptions. But at the same time, there's something about Internet governance as our primary brand that reaches a much narrower audience than the AI governance, for example, of course. But I think it's just worth reflecting on that. Do we want to retain that narrow focus in our branding? Is there value in strengthening that? And I know people in the technical community often argue for that. But do we want to open it up? So that's just one thought. And if we want to open it up, we have to think about the language we use and how we reach out. And then just the second point, one which I make very often, is that if we want better outcomes, we need to change our formats. I think just retaining, and I know you are thinking of that. You're thinking of different ways, more sort of synthesizing. I think if we want more substantial outcomes, we need better outcomes. We need better formats. And in the secretariat, we need the capacity. to take those outcomes and outputs, those messages, and take them into other policy fora. And I think just my last reflection on this is, and Sengheta, you yourself often make this point, as we try and have a more focused, impactful IGF, let's not stop actually celebrating the primary core strength of the IGF and that it is about talking, that it is about dialogue. Let's not let this idea of the IGF as a talk shop be used to denigrate the IGF. We should actually celebrate that we have this place, which is primarily about talking.
Chengetai Massango
Thank you very much, Henriette. If there are not any more questions, we'll just have final reflections from the panel if you want the audience to take away. And we might have a question. Quick picture. Everybody. come up in front. So just very quickly, Ambassador.
Ambassador Philip Thigo
I think, and I'll reiterate, and Jen and Chengetai knows this, I think you have an opportunity to do a little bit different things with Kenya as your co -chair and host. I think, as you know, we're a little bit disruptive. But I think there's an opportunity for this first permanent IGF to do things differently. I think this is the opportunity. And so I think we should not lose it. And of course, a shameless plug is we were the first country to sponsor the first ever UN resolution on environmental impact on artificial intelligence systems. So don't lose sight of that. There's an entire resolution. And Lily is from our mission in UNEP. So please find her. We are looking at how to implement that resolution that looks at the entire life cycle of AI. And we're trying to model not just water or energy. Thanks. Definitely, first of all, I've heard like several words being, saying one and one and again and again and again, it's opportunities multi -stakeholder dialogue. So I think that's the idea, you know, so it's a great opportunity for more multi -stakeholder dialogue. We have met with Chengetai in February in India and the idea was can we do such a report? He said yes, why not, you know, try to do it. Here we are in July with the report and we are taking it to Kenya that is front runner of trans -SAT in terms of environmental thing globally. So I mean it's opportunities for everyone and IGF gives this platform for everyone so we are very grateful that IGF exists so and as far as I understand right now you're permanent, right? That's fantastic. That's fantastic.
Chengetai Massango
Thank you. Jennifer?
Jennifer Chung
I think I'll close with a final comment. I think this is a very concise thing. We need to celebrate our ability to be able to talk about sometimes very difficult, sometimes very interesting subjects. but more importantly we also have to understand and listen so MAG chair serving for this year I'm listening to everything that I'm hearing around the room that the community is saying MAG is also listening to everything that is being said and recommended help us help you, help us shape this program I mentioned that every piece of the intersessional work is open to the community to join so if you don't know how to do that we have our secretariats around the room to tell you how to do that and finally also I'll make a small plug I also wrote a very short progress blog but in that blog I've also opened up office hours around the time zones for everyone to be able to come and tell me, tell the MAG what it is that you're hoping for in this permanent IGF thanks.
Chengetai Massango
Thank you very much. We're over time, but let's do a quick picture, if that's fine. Yeah, okay. Everybody come.

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