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Sovereign Health Systems and the Collective Privacy Gap: What the World's First Indigenous-Sovereign AI Health Initiative Reveals About the Limits of Current Governance

13 speakers
Summary

This session centred on the Healthcare Without Borders initiative, a global collaborative effort to build AI-based infrastructure that delivers equitable, accessible, and sovereign healthcare to underserved populations worldwide . Dr. Siksik opened by highlighting that approximately 4.6 billion people lack access to basic healthcare, and that 86% of health data derives from European populations who represent only 16% of humanity, leaving communities with the greatest disease burden significantly underrepresented .

The Tsleil-Waututh Nation of British Columbia serves as the founding implementation partner for the initiative's first reference model . Councillor Nicholas Kofi and Chief Administration Officer Robert Bartlett, both from Tsleil-Waututh Nation, Canada, explained that the nation has historically experienced trauma through Western healthcare systems, including data exploitation and medical testing during the residential school era , making community-owned, sovereign health infrastructure essential for rebuilding trust .

Pam Dixon of the World Privacy Forum highlighted a critical governance gap between individual and collective privacy frameworks, noting that indigenous conceptions of privacy - such as the Maori model in New Zealand - are entirely collective, which aligns more naturally with how AI systems function technically . Dr. Luigi Serio of CERN described federated learning as the technological solution, enabling communities to contribute to shared AI models without transferring their data to central servers . Dino Dell'Accio added that blockchain-based digital identity systems, combining biometrics and zero-knowledge proof, can support both individual privacy and collective governance simultaneously .

Panellists from Namibia, the Maldives, and India underscored the need for culturally relevant, locally owned digital health systems that complement rather than replace healthcare professionals , and that address connectivity challenges in geographically dispersed regions . Dr. Raghwa Gopal argued that scaling from a single implementation to true health system transformation requires trust, interoperability, common standards, and genuine community partnership .

The discussion concluded with a call to Commonwealth heads of government to establish a dedicated committee for scalable, context-sensitive deployment of sovereign digital health models, and to address data extractivism through stronger governance frameworks such as the Council of Europe's Convention 108+ , reflecting a shared conviction that data sovereignty is foundational to health equity globally .

Keypoints
  • Overall Purpose

  • The discussion centres on the "Healthcare Without Borders" initiative, a global collaborative project led by Innovation Network Canada in partnership with the Tsleil-Waututh Nation. The session aims to explore how AI-based digital health infrastructure can deliver equitable, accessible, and sovereign healthcare to underserved populations worldwide, with a particular focus on indigenous communities, small island states, and rural populations. The panel brings together leaders from indigenous governance, privacy law, AI research, digital identity, and international health policy to examine the technical, ethical, and governance dimensions of this challenge.
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  • Major Discussion Points

  • The scale of global healthcare inequity and the data representation problem. More than half the world's population - approximately 4.6 billion people - lacks access to basic healthcare. Compounding this, roughly 86% of healthcare AI data derives from European populations, who represent only 16% of humanity, leaving communities with the greatest burden of disease severely underrepresented. This imbalance has direct consequences: life expectancy in some countries is up to 20 years lower, and in Canada, indigenous people live 15 years less than the general population. - Indigenous data sovereignty and the trauma of historical exploitation. Representatives from the Tsleil-Waututh Nation emphasised that healthcare has historically been a site of harm for indigenous peoples, including testing and trauma linked to the residential school system, which has created deep mistrust of Western medicine. A recurring challenge has been that communities have been compelled to surrender their data, only to find themselves excluded from its benefits. The Healthcare Without Borders model seeks to reverse this by ensuring the nation is a co-designer of the technology, not merely a recipient. As Councillor Nicholas Kofi noted, being "at the main table with the tools in our hand" represents a fundamentally different and more equitable relationship. - The gap between individual and collective privacy frameworks, and how AI may bridge it. Pam Dixon highlighted that virtually all existing privacy law - including international human rights frameworks - is built on an individual model, whereas indigenous conceptions of privacy, such as the Maori framework underpinning New Zealand's Aotearoa Algorithmic Charter, are entirely collective. Crucially, AI and machine learning systems operate on a collective, system-level basis, which happens to align with indigenous governance models rather than Western legal frameworks. Dino Dell'Accio added that blockchain technology, through mechanisms such as zero-knowledge proof and privacy by design, offers a means of achieving both collective and individual privacy simultaneously. - Federated learning as a technical solution for data sovereignty. Dr. Luigi Serio of CERN described federated learning as a method by which AI models are sent to local data nodes - such as hospitals or community health hubs - trained locally, and only model parameters (not raw data) are returned to a central server. This means communities can contribute to and benefit from collective intelligence without ever sharing their underlying data. The approach is already operational at CERN and has been implemented in three major European healthcare projects. May Siksik further noted that the initiative also includes AI clinical tools designed to function on a mobile phone without internet connectivity, addressing sovereignty even in offline settings. - Conditions for scaling the model globally, including to small states and Commonwealth nations. Dr. Raghwa Gopal outlined five criteria that healthcare leaders would require before adopting the model more broadly: improved health outcomes, community trust in data governance, operational performance, economic sustainability, and scalability across different jurisdictions and cultural contexts. Speakers representing the Maldives, Namibia, and India each highlighted specific local adaptations needed, including offline functionality for geographically dispersed islands , investment in digital infrastructure and literacy in rural Namibia , and culturally relevant content delivered through trusted community recruiters for diabetes prevention in India. Pam Dixon and Nurain Janah both stressed that approximately 40 Commonwealth small island states lack any data protection legislation, making them vulnerable to data extractivism, and called for adoption of the Council of Europe's Framework 108 Plus as an accessible governance instrument. ---
  • Overall Tone

  • The overall tone of the discussion is earnest, collaborative, and hopeful, with an undercurrent of urgency. Speakers from the Tsleil-Waututh Nation introduce moments of gravity and emotional weight, particularly when describing the historical trauma associated with healthcare and data exploitation , which grounds the more technical contributions in human reality. The contributions from technologists and policy experts are measured and solutions-focused, while the closing exchanges - particularly around the Commonwealth heads of government meeting - carry a tone of cautious optimism and advocacy. Throughout, there is a consistent spirit of genuine partnership and shared mission, with Robert Bartlett's closing remarks capturing the collective sentiment: "I feel like we're building something in the right way."
Speakers Overview
MS
May Siksik
131 wpm · 18 min
NK
Nicholas Kofi
152 wpm · 3 min
RB
Robert Bartlett
189 wpm · 4 min
PD
Pam Dixon
140 wpm · 6 min
LS
Luigi Serio
144 wpm · 3 min
DD
Dino Dell'Accio
134 wpm · 3 min
RG
Raghwa Gopal
119 wpm · 3 min
NS
Nalini Saligram
159 wpm · 3 min
NJ
Nurain Janah
154 wpm · 3 min
JH
Juliana Haimbodi
102 wpm · 3 min
AR
Amit Rana
121 wpm · 4 min
P
Participant
176 wpm · 42 s
S1
Speaker 1
47 wpm · 2 min

Healthcare Without Borders: Expanded Summary

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Opening and Context

The session opened with brief technical difficulties involving audio feedback, requiring participants to mute their devices and adjust their speaker settings before the substantive discussion could begin . Once underway, Dr May Siksik, CEO of Innovation Network Canada and Innovation Network Global, and co-chair of the Dynamic Coalition on Emerging Technologies at the UN Internet Governance Forum, welcomed participants and acknowledged the Tsleil-Waututh Nation of British Columbia as the founding partner for the first implementation of the Healthcare Without Borders initiative . She thanked the assembled panellists for their perspectives and framed the session around what she described as one of the most important challenges and greatest inequities of the current era: ensuring that everybody has access to quality healthcare regardless of where they live .

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The Scale of Global Healthcare Inequity

Dr Siksik opened the substantive discussion by presenting a stark statistical picture of global health inequity. Approximately 4.6 billion people - more than half the world's population - currently lack access to basic healthcare . Compounding this access crisis is a profound data representation problem: roughly 86% of the data underpinning healthcare algorithms derives from European populations, who represent only 16% of humanity, while the communities carrying the greatest burden of disease remain severely underrepresented . In the field of genomics, this underrepresentation is even more extreme, with affected communities accounting for only 2% of the data . The consequences of this imbalance are tangible and severe: life expectancy in some countries is up to 20 years lower than in others, and in Canada, indigenous people live approximately 15 years less than the general population . This statistical framing established the initiative not merely as a technology deployment project but as a corrective to a systemic global failure - one rooted in historical data exclusion as much as in resource inequality.

In response to these challenges, Innovation Network Canada established Healthcare Without Borders, described as a global collaborative initiative focused on building AI-based infrastructure to deliver equitable, accessible, and sovereign healthcare . Dr Siksik emphasised that creating such a structure would not be effective without co-designing it with the communities it is intended to serve , and that the Tsleil-Waututh Nation had been honoured as the founding implementation partner for the first reference model . She also noted growing interest from the governments of Namibia and the Maldives, who had been in conversations about how these principles might be adapted for their own health systems . The initiative's ambition, she stressed, was not to replicate models but to adapt and co-create them with each community .

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Indigenous Governance and the Tsleil-Waututh Nation's Perspective

Nicholas Kofi of the Tsleil-Waututh Nation provided the first community perspective, describing the nation's approach to governance as fundamentally community-centred: every decision and every action is made for the betterment of the community, with the council serving as the voice of its people . Chief Administration Officer Robert Bartlett elaborated on the administrative dimension, noting that the nation has historically been left behind and has struggled to gain a seat at the table . A recurring and damaging pattern, he explained, has been that the nation's data has been taken and used by others, leaving the community in the position of having to beg for that information to be applied to their own benefit . The Healthcare Without Borders initiative, in his view, fundamentally changes this dynamic by placing the nation at the forefront of making healthcare decisions for its own people .

Nicholas Kofi then offered a deeply personal and historically grounded account of why healthcare has been a site of profound trauma for his people. He described how, for a long period, healthcare carried serious repercussions for indigenous communities, including testing and what he characterised as torture linked to the residential school system . This history has made many indigenous people reluctant to engage with Western medicine, as they have been treated as subjects of projects rather than as equal participants . Undoing this trauma, Kofi argued, is one of the first responsibilities of indigenous governance, and a critical means of doing so is by holding the community's information close - maintaining sovereignty over their own data . He expressed genuine excitement about the opportunity to be at the main table with tools in hand, approaching the initiative as educated partners rather than test subjects .

Robert Bartlett reinforced these points, acknowledging the real and ongoing impact of historical trauma on community members' willingness to seek healthcare , and expressing hope that the initiative would produce something the nation truly owns - something that elders and members can feel comfortable with . He also articulated a forward-looking vision of generosity: what the nation learns through this process, it intends to share with other nations, so that others do not have to face the same challenges . He emphasised, however, that this sharing is only possible if the nation first has the comfort and capability to keep its own information secure . Dr Siksik added an important clarification at this point, stressing that the nation is not merely receiving technology but is actively participating in designing both the system and the technology itself - a distinction she described as critical .

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The Governance Gap: Individual Versus Collective Privacy

Pam Dixon, founder and executive director of the World Privacy Forum, introduced a philosophical and legal dimension that proved to be one of the most intellectually significant contributions of the session. Drawing on her work with the UN Statistical Commission and her engagement with the New Zealand government around 2020-2021, she described the Aotearoa Algorithmic Charter - a formal treaty with the Māori people - as a revelation that fundamentally challenged her understanding of privacy . In the Western tradition, she explained, privacy law is built on a Cartesian, individualistic foundation: all human rights instruments, including the European Charter of Human Rights and UN human rights frameworks, are individually based, with almost no exception . The Māori conception of privacy, by contrast, is entirely collective - there is no individual privacy, only collective privacy . She acknowledged that this was genuinely difficult to understand from a Western perspective and that it had taken her several years to begin to grasp .

Dixon then presented a technical slide illustrating what she described as a governance gap - a philosophical, sociocultural, and technical divide between individual-level data governance on the left and how artificial intelligence acts in the world on the right . Her key insight was that artificial intelligence and machine learning do not operate on an individual basis but on a collective one, exhibiting system-level behaviour . This technical reality, she argued, happens to align with the indigenous collective model rather than with the Western legal frameworks currently in place . This convergence between cutting-edge AI architecture and centuries-old indigenous governance philosophy was presented not as a coincidence but as a structural insight with profound implications for how digital health systems should be designed and governed.

Dino Dell'Accio, who developed a digital identity system at the United Nations and the UN Pension Fund, engaged directly with the tension Dixon had identified. He described how the UN system uses biometrics, facial recognition, blockchain, and artificial intelligence to enable approximately 80,000 retirees across 192 countries to confirm proof of life - what he termed not merely digital identity but digital dignity . He argued that blockchain, by its decentralised and consensus-based nature, offers a means of achieving collective governance , while zero-knowledge proof and privacy by design simultaneously preserve individual privacy . His conclusion was that this technology can help achieve both goals - collective and individual privacy - without requiring a fundamental overhaul of existing legal frameworks . This position represented a meaningful, if implicit, counterpoint to Dixon's argument that the philosophical gap requires new conceptual and legal frameworks.

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Federated Learning as a Technical Solution for Data Sovereignty

Dr Luigi Serio, a principal scientist at CERN, the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, provided the technical architecture underpinning the initiative's approach to data sovereignty . He described federated learning as a method developed at CERN to address the challenge of managing vast quantities of data generated by a 27-kilometre particle accelerator ring . Rather than sending data to a central server - which requires significant communication bandwidth, storage, and energy - federated learning brings the machine learning algorithm to where the data is generated . In the healthcare context, this means that AI models are sent to local nodes such as hospitals, patients, the nation, or different hub centres, trained locally on that data, and only the model parameters - not the underlying data - are returned to a central server . No raw data is shared; all data remains privately and confidentially within the different hubs .

Dr Serio emphasised that federated learning is not merely theoretical: it is operational at CERN for physics research and has already been implemented in three major European healthcare projects, where it has been demonstrated to achieve very high-performance models for prediction, diagnosis, and preventive medicine while keeping all data local . The significance of this achievement, he argued, is that communities no longer need to share their data in order to collectively contribute to and benefit from a general AI model . Dr Siksik connected this directly to the initiative's sovereignty goals, noting that the federated learning platform developed by Dr Serio is what the initiative will use to achieve full data sovereignty . She also highlighted a complementary capability: clinical AI intelligence designed to fit on a mobile phone, requiring very little power and no internet connectivity, which ensures sovereignty even in offline environments . Together, these two technical components - offline clinical AI and federated learning for cloud connectivity - form the technical backbone of the initiative's sovereignty architecture.

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Conditions for Scaling: From Pilot to Transformation

Dr Raghwa Gopal, chair of the Jim Patterson Centre for Health Systems Learning and Innovation, joined the session from a rural part of Fiji and offered a rigorous framework for thinking about what it would take to move from a single successful implementation to genuine health system transformation . He argued that success must be measured across five dimensions: first, improved health outcomes, including better access, reduced inequities, and support for prevention ; second, trust - evidence that communities have confidence in how their data is governed, that privacy is protected, and that sovereignty strengthens rather than limits collaboration ; third, operational performance, including reduced administrative burden and better clinical decision-making ; fourth, economic sustainability - delivering better outcomes while making more effective use of scarce resources ; and fifth, scalability across different communities, jurisdictions, and health systems while respecting local governance and cultural context .

Crucially, Dr Gopal argued that evidence alone will not transform healthcare . Transformation requires successful innovation to become repeatable innovation, which in turn demands common standards, trusted governance, interoperable technologies, supportive public policy, committed leadership, and genuine community partnership . He articulated a vision in which every implementation strengthens the next, with each community contributing to a growing body of knowledge while maintaining sovereignty over its own data and decisions . His most memorable formulation was that health transformation is not about deploying new technology but about creating a healthcare ecosystem where trust, sovereignty, integrity, collaboration, and innovation reinforce one another, allowing every community to benefit while remaining in control of its own future . This systems-thinking perspective provided an important counterbalance to the more technology-focused contributions, situating technical solutions within the broader social and governance conditions necessary for lasting change.

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Perspectives from India, the Maldives, and Namibia

Dr Nalini Saligram, founder and CEO of Arugia World, brought a perspective grounded in 15 years of direct programme delivery in India. Her organisation, whose name means good health and living without disease, works on diabetes prevention through healthy living and has reached approximately 29.5 million people . The flagship M Diabetes programme sends 62 messages to participants - both those who are healthy and those who have diabetes - over six months, twice a week, via WhatsApp, now augmented with AI and multimedia, and is based on the evidence that 80% of type 2 diabetes can be prevented through eating well, exercising, and avoiding tobacco . Drawing on this experience, she identified three critical conditions for scaling health interventions: content must be culturally relevant, as foreign-sounding material will not be accepted ; a trusted person from within the community must recruit participants, as external recruiters are unlikely to succeed ; and the cost of technology must be brought down to make programmes accessible . She expressed strong interest in partnering with the Healthcare Without Borders initiative to translate proven content to other parts of the world .

Nurain Janah, originally from the Maldives and representing a small states perspective, highlighted dimensions of the challenge that had not yet been addressed in the discussion. She noted that small island states are on the front line of climate change, and that the health impacts of global warming are a critical and often overlooked dimension of healthcare planning for these communities . She advocated for holistic and preventative approaches rather than purely symptomatic treatment , and raised the important question of how traditional healthcare knowledge - existing for centuries - can be preserved and owned by communities as digital systems are introduced, including intellectual property ownership and the ability to benefit from that knowledge . On the geographic dimension, she described the Maldives as a big ocean nation with nearly 1,200 dispersed islands, where specialised healthcare is concentrated and complex procedures often require overseas travel . The challenge, she argued, is to empower local healthcare workers and provide specialised care seamlessly across the country .

Juliana Haimbodi, a councillor from Namibia, described a country of 3.1 million people dispersed across a vast geographic area, where healthcare professionals are concentrated in urban centres, leaving rural areas poorly served . She identified several critical principles for any digital health deployment in Namibia: digital health should complement rather than replace healthcare professionals, given the widespread concern that digitalisation threatens jobs ; data should be securely exchanged across health institutions with the highest level of privacy, remaining within the host country rather than flowing to foreign servers ; and investment in digital infrastructure, connectivity, and digital literacy is essential, as internet access in rural areas remains a significant challenge . Her emphasis on data localisation and cybersecurity directly echoed the sovereignty principles articulated by the Tsleil-Waututh Nation representatives, demonstrating that these concerns are shared across very different national contexts.

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The Clinician's Perspective

Dr Amit Rana, a trauma surgeon from Australia, argued that clinical perspectives are often overlooked in discussions about the future of healthcare, which tend to focus on technology and consumers while neglecting the care providers who are the health system's most critical and constrained resource, particularly in rural and remote indigenous communities . He described the Healthcare Without Borders model as offering a unique value proposition for both those who seek care and those who provide it . For communities, the model has the potential to replace fragmented and episodic care with connected and continuous care, closely aligned with the clinical mission . Co-designing care with communities and clinicians, and embedding cultural safety and shared ownership, builds trust and increases confidence for early utilisation of healthcare services .

From the clinician's perspective, Dr Rana argued that a well-designed system shows promise in reducing workflow friction, integrating technology more effectively, connecting clinicians to specialist support and multidisciplinary approaches, lessening burnout and attrition risk, reducing non-clinical time, eliminating professional isolation, lowering cognitive load, and supporting career development through continuous learning and mentorship . He concluded that the greatest opportunity is to reimagine both provider and consumer communities as close partners and collaborators working towards shared goals, thereby strengthening the culture of care, improving patient experience and outcomes, and building healthier communities globally .

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Policy Recommendations for Commonwealth Heads of Government

The session concluded with a question from the floor about what message panellists would send to the 56 heads of government gathering at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Antigua and Barbuda in November . Dr Siksik identified two priorities: assembling a committee of Commonwealth member countries to co-create a scalable, context-sensitive model for sovereign digital health, and securing more sustainable funding through the Commonwealth and other sources beyond philanthropic contributions . She noted that the Commonwealth is well positioned for this role given its many member countries, many of which share challenges around rural medicine . She also emphasised that data is now a new gold, and that indigenous and underserved communities have historically been denied access to their own data - and therefore denied the ability to learn from it and act on it for their own benefit .

Pam Dixon focused her recommendation on the governance gap facing small island developing states, noting that approximately 40 Commonwealth small island states lack any form of data protection legislation, largely because the EU's General Data Protection Regulation is too burdensome for smaller jurisdictions . She recommended the Council of Europe's Convention 108 Plus as an accessible and enforceable alternative, open to all countries in the world, which would allow these jurisdictions to put in place rules to enforce better data management from external bodies and begin stopping what she termed data extractivism . She described data extractivism across Commonwealth jurisdictions as very troubling and identified it as a top priority for the heads of government meeting .

Nurain Janah reinforced this point from the small states perspective, noting that the Maldives has recently launched a Maldives Health Digital Blueprint, yet countries still have to invite vendors from globally and face significant resource and power asymmetries in negotiating interoperable, non-extractive systems . Dr Rana cautioned that most Commonwealth member states are at different stages of digitalisation and data governance, and that one sweeping set of guidelines will not address this diversity . He advocated instead for a clustered, empathetic leadership approach that allows for both scaling up and unscaling as appropriate . Robert Bartlett closed the discussion by expressing gratitude for the session and affirming that the words of the panellists - particularly around protecting data and addressing what he described as data extortionism - would make a real difference on the ground in communities .

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Overarching Themes and Conclusions

Throughout the session, a remarkably consistent set of principles emerged across speakers from very different professional, cultural, and geographic backgrounds. Data sovereignty - the right of communities to own, control, and benefit from their own health data - was identified as the cornerstone of equitable digital health infrastructure . Co-design with communities, rather than the imposition of external solutions, was presented as both an ethical imperative and a practical necessity for effective implementation . Trust, particularly in communities with histories of trauma and exploitation, was identified as a non-negotiable foundation for healthcare adoption . And contextual adaptation - rather than uniform replication - was consistently emphasised as the only viable approach to scaling the model globally .

Perhaps the most intellectually striking insight of the session was the convergence identified by Pam Dixon and operationalised by Luigi Serio: that AI systems function on a collective, system-level basis that aligns naturally with indigenous collective governance models, rather than with the individualistic Western legal frameworks currently dominant . This convergence suggests that indigenous data sovereignty principles are not merely cultural accommodations to be made, but may in fact represent a more structurally appropriate framework for the age of collective artificial intelligence. Dr Siksik's substantive remarks throughout the session captured the shared conviction of the assembled group - united by a common goal of delivering sovereign, equitable, accessible healthcare to everyone in the world regardless of where they live - that this vision is both necessary and achievable .

Speaker 1
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May Siksik
Hi, everyone. I just want to ask everybody to please, if you're not speaking, I mean, mute yourself and also turn your speaker off and turn your, if you're joining on your phone, turn the volume all the way off, all the way down. This is a hearing echo. I think it's fine now, right? Somebody did something. Okay, I just want to see. I think, is it better? I think it's better now. Okay, I think we got it. Okay, we have everybody. Okay. Okay, everybody, can I get started? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hi, everybody, and thank you for being here. Thank you for joining our session. My name is Dr. May Siksik. I'm CEO of Innovation Network Canada and Innovation Network Global. I also co -chair the Dynamic Coalition on Emerging Technologies at the UNIGF. Thank you for joining us, everyone, for this session. And before I get started, I just want to acknowledge the Tsleil -Waututh Nation from British Columbia Canada, without whom this conversation wouldn't be possible. They're our founding partner for the first implementation for healthcare without borders. Thank you also for our panelists for providing your perspectives and insights, which are highly appreciated. So we're here to actually discuss one of the most important challenges of humanity right now. And I want to thank you all for joining us. And I want to thank you all for joining us. And I want to thank you all for joining us. And I want to thank you all for joining us. And I want to thank you all for joining us. and the biggest inequity of our time, which is how do we ensure that everybody has access to quality health care regardless of where they live? So let me first share a few facts. About 4 .6 billion people on a global level, more than half the population of the planet, does not have access to basic health care right now. And most of our algorithms, most of the algorithms in health care is based on data. About 86 % of the data in our health care intelligence comes from European populations, only 16 % of humanity. While the communities that carry the most important data on health care and the most burden of disease remain significantly underrepresented. For example, 2 % only in terms of genomics. So what does that mean? It means that it has a lot of implications. It means that some people in some countries' life expectancy is about 20 years less. In Canada, indigenous people live 15 years less than everybody else. So recognizing this challenge, Innovation Network has established Healthcare Without Borders, a global collaborative initiative that focuses on building the AI -based infrastructure that can address these challenges. So equitable, accessible, and sovereign healthcare. And we know that creating a structure like this would not be effective at all if we didn't co -design it with the communities that it's supposed to be. And we know that the community that we serve. So we are also working with the community that is more inclusive of the community that we serve. So we are also working with the we serve. So we are also working with the community that we serve to create a structure honored to be working with the Tsleil -Waututh Nation. The nation is the founding implementation partner for the first reference model for health care without borders. And we knew that tech was not the hardest part of developing this. We can develop spectacular tech, but really the most difficult part is governance. Answering questions like, how do communities benefit from collective intelligence and collaborate on a global level without actually surrendering their data and making sure that they have fully sovereign health care? And how do we protect not only individuals in these communities, but also the rights of the entire community? So these are the questions that we're here to explore today. We're also seeing growing interests from different governments. For example, we have the government of Namibia, the government of the Maldives as well, that we've been having conversations with who are very interested in exploring how these principles can be adapted for their own health care systems in their communities. And the idea is not to replicate models, but to actually adapt these models and co -create them with those communities. So today's panel brings together leaders from indigenous governance, health care, privacy, artificial intelligence, digital identity, and international collaboration. Each has been tackling a different part of this challenge. We'll explore different parts of this conversation first. First, why sovereignty matters, and how do we build this sovereign healthcare digital infrastructure? And finally, how these principles can be adapted internationally. So with that, let's begin exploring why sovereignty matters, starting with the perspective of the Tsleil -Waututh Nation. They're also called people of the Inlet, and we're deeply honored to be working with them. So let's start with you, Nick. Nick is Nick Lynn. I'm Sir Nick Lynn. He is a counselor from the Tsleil -Waututh Nation. Nick, what does community governance actually look like in practice? And what can
Nicholas Kofi
Thank you. First of all, I'm going to start off with an introduction. I'm just a brief introduction of myself and where I come from. I come from the Tsleil -Waututh Nation located in British Columbia. That is a very big question for us, our Coast Salish people. People mainly say with us is, you know, the governance is we're the voice for our community. Every decision, every thought that we do is for the betterment of our community. And that's really, you know, the core of who we are. We just want to be the voice for our community. And that's what good governance is, is just the voice for our community and our people. Thank you.
May Siksik
Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Nick. Robert, Mr. Robert Barlett, Robert is the Chief Administration Officer of the nation. Robert, why do you think co -design and working together on creating this digital infrastructure is critical? And what are you hoping, what are the challenges that the nation has been facing? And what are you hoping that the lessons, for the lessons that will come out of this that you can share, that the nation can share with other communities and other organizations?
Robert Bartlett
Thank you. Good morning, everybody. And thank you, Nick, for opening us that way. I'll share a couple of things from the administration perspective. And then I'll ask Nick to kind of help me with some of the challenges that we face or that the nation has faced. Traditionally, I think the key thing here is around. the kind of, we're happy to explore all of these different things because our nation has been impacted over the centuries in terms of being left behind and trying to get to the table. And we're trying to change that narrative now. Like the challenge has always been that we seem to end up selling our data and that people use our own data. And correct me if I'm wrong. And then what happens is we're sort of begging for the information to be used in our nation. I think what this does is it changes the whole perspective. This puts us in the front of making healthcare for our nation. You know, we think, Nick, and I think I'd love to hear a little bit from you on it. It's always been difficult to get our members to come and seek healthcare because of trauma. And that's something that we face every day. And Nick and the rest of our council try and guide me in that. That the trauma that the nation has faced is real and it's been impactful. And so then when we've got this challenge of losing our data at the same time and not focus on nation healthcare, but focus on Western healthcare, then we've really hit a problem. And I see it every single day. So, Nick, would you agree with that in terms of getting people into our healthcare centre? It's always been a challenge. And I'm really hoping that this can be something that we own and that our nation members and our elders in particular can feel comfortable with.
May Siksik
Thank you, Robert. And thank you, Nick. Pam. Can we have Robert respond? Oh, sorry. Robert? Sorry, Nick. Yeah, sorry.
Nicholas Kofi
I was going to. So healthcare, from my understanding, for the longest period of time was something that had serious repercussions to my people. it was the the site of a lot of testing a lot of you know in some ways torture for our people so i'm doing a lot of that trauma is kind of one of the first steps that we as a you know government government have to do for our people is undoing that trauma and one way that it's done is by holding our own information close to our hearts and close to our people because through the residential school system you know a lot of testing was done and that's why a lot of our people don't want to go back to the western ways of medicine necessarily is because you know we're seen as a project for many people and that's not something we want to go back to and we see the potential with something as great as this initiative as being at the table from the very beginning and that's something that we're seeing as a project for many people something we're eager to do as a nation is to look into that educate ourselves more because we haven't been able to be given those tools for the longest time. So for this opportunity to come up and us be at the main table with the tools in our hand, surrounded by people who have our best interest at heart, and it's very genuine, and that's not something that our people have had. So although this is a very new opportunity, it's very exciting at the same time, and we just want to be able to come at this from an educated way. We want to be able to learn and adapt for our people, not as test subjects, but on the same level. So that's what I think, from my personal opinion, what I've been hearing for these several meetings and conversations we've been having. May I just finish?
May Siksik
Yeah, please go ahead.
Robert Bartlett
You know, thank you, Nick. I really appreciate that. And hopefully everybody that's joined this session and in the sessions previous can really understand that we're coming from a really challenging place. But this nation is always about giving back. So what we can learn as we build this, we want to give to other nations. And because we don't want people to go through the same challenges. But to do that, we need that comfort and that capability to keep this information tight. And what it leads to when we look at the positive of it is we can look at the specific challenges within our nation because we have very specific ones which aren't linked to my background in the Western world. And I think that's where we can make a real difference. So if we follow Nick's leadership in this, in terms of governance of a nation and learning, we can really help our youth and elders and that suffering change into something that can provide longevity. And but not just longevity, a good quality of really excellence. Excellent life and a really excellent health care. So, you know, it's exciting to continue this journey. and take those steps that the nation teaches me every day. Take a little step, assess, you know, and come back and really regroup and make sure we've got the governance done in the right way so we learn from Nick's experience and all the experience in the nation. So thank you for letting us have that.
May Siksik
Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Robert. Thank you, Nick. I want to add something to what you just mentioned, Nick and Robert, is that the nation is actually going to be part of developing the technology. You're not just receiving the technology, and that differentiation is also critical, right? You are part of designing the system and designing the actual tech that the nation, that your committee will be receiving, and that's very, very important. So the next, okay, so next, Pam. Yes. We are speaking of how we've been having to answer the question of protecting community rights. There's a privacy gap in terms of individuals can assert their individual rights, but it's difficult for a community to assert their rights. So could you please tell me a little bit more about this and the work that you've been doing?
Pam Dixon
Yes. May, thank you for your kind invitation to be here, and thanks to the nation for working on this amazing project. And Luigi, thanks for your incredible technology that really is working with all of this to make it real. So I'm Pam Dixon. I'm founder and executive director of the World Privacy Forum, and I work in governance of highly complex ecosystem. I focus on primarily artificial intelligence and quantum governance. that I've been working on for over a decade is what's called collective governance. So one of the things I've worked on for quite some time is with the UN Statistical Commission on a working group to determine how national statistical organizations are doing their governance in a modern era. And as part of my duties, I was assigned to work and talk to various governments. And I was lucky enough to be assigned to talk to the New Zealand government right around 2020, 2021. And they were in the process of working on what's called the Aotearoa Algorithmic Charter, which is a formal treaty with the Maori tribe in New Zealand. And I talked with them all extensively about this. And I was absolutely shocked to find out that the Maori have an idea for what the Aotearoa Algorithmic Charter is. It's a form of privacy that is collective only. In the West, we have a very Cartesian view of privacy. All of the rights, all of the human rights, the European Charter of Human Rights, the UN Human Rights, all human rights are individually based. All privacy law is individually based with almost no exception. But if you look at the Maori conception of privacy, it's entirely collective. There is no individual privacy. It is collective privacy. So when I first read this, it absolutely blew me away and caused my mind to bend because it's actually very difficult to understand from a Western perspective. And in truth, it actually took me several years, and I'm still learning more. So what you're seeing on the screen is a slide. So this is a technical slide. This is how current global law, which is pretty normative at this point and pretty... pretty steady across the world with the exception of a couple of pockets of indigenous leadership. What we have on the left -hand side of the screen is individual level measurement. This is, for example, individual data records or in the AI context, individual model inputs into AI models. We're going to skip some of those super technical things. But when you have a privacy guarantee, you're guaranteed, for example, the right to deletion as an individual. However, that governance gap, the red line you see in the middle of the image, that is a philosophical gap. That is a sociocultural gap. And what I want to say here is it's also a technical gap. So if you look on the right -hand side, what I talk about there is the ability to do a lot of work. is really how artificial intelligence acts in the world. And in our world today, our ecosystems are becoming increasingly driven by agentic forms of artificial intelligence, and it's really, really shifting quite rapidly. And what I want to transmit just in a very simple way is that artificial intelligence and machine learning, the way it works, it doesn't work on an individual basis. It works on a collective basis in the technical realm. So artificial intelligence systems exhibit collective system -level behavior. This happens to match the indigenous model. So, yes, yes, I'll wrap up. This happens to match the indigenous model. So a lot of the current work is to figure out how to make the collective work get transcribed into technology, and that's actually what Luigi said. And if the system does, he'll talk more.
May Siksik
Thank you, Pam. Okay, Dr. Luigi Serio. You've done amazing work in federated learning, which allows communities to actually share their knowledge without sacrificing and compromising their data. So could you tell us, please, a little bit about this, how we can, how federated learning enables communities to collaborate and benefit from collective intelligence while preserving their sovereignty and trust?
Luigi Serio
Thank you. Thank you, May, for the introduction. Thank you, Pam, also for the introduction to the next part. So I'm Luigi Serio. I'm a principal scientist at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research. And I'm very happy to be here and very interested in joining this beautiful project to try to bring technology to the people and to try to accelerate innovation. Without the drawbacks of artificial intelligence. Transcendence is growing very much, we have seen during these days at the forum, but it comes with the drawbacks. And what if we can get all the benefits of AI without the drawbacks like privacy, preservation, sustainable use of energy, and so on. So at CERN, we develop technologies that hopefully are also useful and interesting for people and society. And one of these technologies is based on federated learning. So at CERN, we have a very large amount of data that comes from a 27 -kilometer ring of accelerator. All this data were previously collected in a central server, and this data requires a lot of communication, a lot of storage, and a lot of energy. So what are the benefits if instead of sending the data to central server, we could bring the machine learning, the algorithm, to where the data are generated? This challenge is very important because it makes it easier. It makes everything more efficient and from a confidential perspective. and privacy point of view, it makes it very interesting. So what could happen if instead of sending data, patient data, to central server or to cloud, you use federated learning? This is shown in the graphs that is here. You can connect several nodes to a central server that is provided at CERN, and algorithm models are sent to the different nodes, this being hospital or people or patient or the nation, different hub centers, and these models are trained locally, and they only transfer the parameters of the model. So no data are shared. All the data remains privately, confidentially, and safely into the different hubs. So this is federated learning. It is operational. It is working at CERN for research purposes, in particular physics, but it's already implemented in three major European projects in health care, and we demonstrated. It's operated operationally. can achieve very high performance models, very high performance algorithms for prediction, diagnosis and preventive medicine while keeping all the data locally. This is a big achievement because people will not have any more to share their data, but they can collectively contribute to a general model without sharing the data and can benefit from all this.
May Siksik
Thank you, Luigi. I wanted to mention, we talked about very quickly, we talked about we want to provide communities with full sovereignty and there are two aspects of this. One of them, we actually developed AI that can be used for clinical intelligence that fits on a phone. So it's low power, it takes very little space and you don't need connectivity for that. But once you, when you want to connect to the world and you want to connect on the cloud, you still are potentially compromising your data. So what Dr. Luigi Serio has developed, the federated learning platform, is what we will be using to achieve that full sovereignty. which is very exciting. So our next question is for Dr. Raghuagopal. He is the chair for the Jim Patterson Center for Health Systems Learning and Innovation. Raghuag, if this first implementation proves successful, what evidence will healthcare leaders need before adopting the model more broadly, and what will it take to move from one successful implementation to true health system transformation? Raghuag, are you there? I saw you participating, so I hope you're able to connect. Okay, he was there. He must have had connectivity issues. So if that's... If Raghuag is not available, I'm going to very quickly right now connect with Dino. Dino Cataldo, is Dino there? I'm
Dino Dell'Accio
here, J .A. May.
May Siksik
Okay. So do you know, you've developed a digital identity system at the UN and at the UN Pension Fund, which is used in many organizations right now at the UN. Could you please tell us why that is, a proper digital identity system is very important for delivering for an effective digital health infrastructure?
Dino Dell'Accio
structure. Thank you very much, May, for inviting me to contribute to this event. And apologies that I'm not able to be there in person. I'm going back to New York after the eyes are good. Indeed. So at the United Nations, we have created a digital identity system, first and foremost, to enable our 80,000 retirees that reside in 192 countries to confirm that they are still alive. Basically, a digital identity for proof of life or proof of existence. I believe that this is probably one of the most important representations of the use of emerging technology in enabling individuals to express and to hold their human rights. Indeed, I renamed this from digital identity to digital dignity. So first and foremost, enable each and every person to be able to use technology to state and to confirm and to demonstrate that they are alive. So we believe this is the first step in enabling our, if you will, clients, but I would say our retirees, beneficiaries, those who we serve, to be able to participate in the digital world in very direct manner. How did we accomplish that? We use three technologies. Biometrics, facial recognition, we use blockchain, and we use artificial intelligence. Biometrics and facial recognition to support authentication and proof of life. Blockchain to create an immutable record of the transaction. And ultimately, AI, artificial intelligence, on one side to help in the recognition of the individual. And on the other side, to fight AI with AI in terms of detecting and preventing potential deepfakes. I very much like the concept that Pam expressed before about the potential dichotomy between a collective versus an individual approach to the use of digital technology and to the specific about private. I think that today, for example, with blockchain, we have a technology that allows us to achieve both. Blockchain is a technology that by its very nature is decentralized, is distributed, and is based on consensus mechanism. And at the same time, the use of zero knowledge proof and privacy by design allows us to maintain individual privacy. So to conclude, I think this technology can help to achieve both goals. And apologies for the background noise. Thank you very much.
May Siksik
Thank you, Gino. Raghu, I see that you're online. I don't know if you have connectivity issues. Are you able to talk now or are you still not able to talk?
Raghwa Gopal
Okay. I can talk. I can definitely talk.
May Siksik
Okay. So should I repeat the question or did you hear it? kay.
Raghwa Gopal
No, I missed the question.
May Siksik
okay so what I was saying is that implementations if this first implementation proves successful what evidence will healthcare providers need before adopting the model more broadly and what will it take to move from one successful implementation to true health system transformation
Raghwa Gopal
Thank you May very delighted to join this discussion from a very rural part of Fiji and my apologies that I'm not been able to attend this is a very important topic discussion I'm going to stay without video because I probably will lose the connectivity so I'm just going to speak without video so if this first implementation proves successful I believe healthcare leaders will ask one very practical question question And that is, is this an inspiring pilot or is it the beginning of a new model for health care? And to answer that question, success must be measured in five ways as far as I think. First, better health outcomes. Does this model improve access, reduce inequities, support prevention, and ultimately improve the health of individuals and communities? And second is trust. Health care depends on trust. Leaders will want evidence that communities have confidence in how their data is governed, that privacy is protected, and that sovereignty strengthens collaboration rather than limiting it. Third, operational performance. Does it reduce administrative burden, improve continuity of care, enable better clinical decision -making, and make life easier for health care professionals? Fourth is economic sustainability Can it deliver better outcomes while making more effective use of the scarce healthcare resources? Innovation must improve value, not simply add cost And finally, scalability Can this approach be adapted across different communities, different jurisdictions, and different health systems while respecting local governance and cultural context? But evidence alone will not transform healthcare Transformation happens when successful innovation becomes repeatable innovation That requires common standards, trusted governance, interoperable technologies, supportive public policy, committed leadership, and above all, genuine partnership with communities Perhaps the most important thing is that we have a global economy The most exciting aspect of this particular initiative is that it begins with an indigenous nation yet it has the potential to inform healthcare systems around the world. Every implementation should strengthen the next one. Each community should contribute to a growing body of knowledge while maintaining sovereignty over its own data and decisions. Ultimately, health transformation is not about deploying new technology. It's about creating a healthcare ecosystem where trust, sovereignty, integrity, collaboration, and innovation reinforce one another, allowing every community to benefit while remaining in control of its own future. I'll kind of stop there right now and we'll wait for further discussions and listen to what's
May Siksik
Thank you very much, Raghava. So we'll move on to Nalini, Dr. Nalini Seligram. Dr. Nalini Seligram, she founded Arugia World. She's a president and CEO, and her goal is to address and solve diabetes on a global level, and she started with India. They're doing amazing work there. Nalini, what opportunities do you see for sovereign digital health infrastructure to improve prevention, equity, and long -term health outcomes, particularly underserved populations?
Nalini Saligram
Nalini, first of all, thank you so much for including me in this important discussion. I've been following everyone's comments with great interest. I'm sorry I couldn't be there in person, but I'm so happy I could join. Again, my name is Nalini Seligram, and the organization I founded and represent is called Arugia World. Arugia means good health. It means living without disease, and we work on diabetes prevention through healthy living. And India. We've reached some 29 .5 million people over the last 15 years with our programs. We deliver our programs in the community setting, and the key program that I want to talk about today is called M Diabetes. We are included, I think, in this forum for being content people. Our program sends 62 messages to people who are healthy as well as people who have diabetes and over six months, so twice a week, it's on WhatsApp, and it's now being augmented with AI as well as multimedia. So we have used cutting -edge technology to improve lifestyle change because we know 80 % of type 2 diabetes can be prevented with three changes. You must eat right, exercise, and avoid tobacco. So we are very eager to partner with this healthcare, Care Without Borders initiative. and the impressive stakeholder group that you've assembled me because I think it's the solution. Hey, if you have someone's content that has been proven to work all over India, rural as well as urban, perhaps it can be translated to the rest of the world. We know what to do. We are interested in scaling up prevention, and we know what to do. The first step is the content has to be culturally relevant. If it is foreign -sounding, it's not going to get accepted by the people. So we have to work very hard to get the food examples right, to get the tone right, and we've done that for India, so we know what to do. The second step is the trusted person must ask people to join. If someone foreign goes, they're not going to accept it. So a trusted recruiter is very important. So some of your on -the -ground partners are key. And third is we must bring down the cost of technology, whether it's the WhatsApp. or the AI, we have to work, and I was hoping this coalition will do that. Your Global Innovation Networks app may also do that. So I'm hoping that as a solution to driving technology, we will be able to bring down the cost. But thank you for this. I look forward, and I'm excited
May Siksik
Thank you very much, Nalini. Noreen, Noreen Jena, she's the founder of the Kandufa Foundation as one of the many, many things that Noreen does, the impressive work that she does globally. Noreen is also originally from the Maldives. Noreen, from the perspective of the Maldives and other small states, which aspects of this approach are most relevant and what adaptations would be necessary for geographically dispersed populations?
Nurain Janah
Thank you for the opportunity to share especially from a small states perspective I think some of these conversations often don't cover small states Thank you some of these perspectives don't often cover small states perspectives so this is really wonderful to be able to share the lived realities let's say I think what I want to start with is not just our geography but the fact that there are health impacts from being at the front line of climate change globally as well especially as small island states I am originally from the Maldives but I had the opportunity to grow up in New Zealand and spend almost 20 years there so I feel home in both places and I take the Pacific perspective as well as from the Maldives and so I think as the global warming and climate change has developed this health impact view is really important. So we've talked a lot about privacy, but if we're talking about adaptation, it's also both preventative but also holistic rather than kind of medicating at a symptoms level. What is it that we can do to provide the collective healthcare for communities that have awareness, education and preventative perspectives as well? I suppose the other thing that I want to raise in this opportunity is that there are already traditional healthcare that was there for many, many years or decades, even centuries. So how do we, as we digitise and give access with wonderful platforms like these that prioritise community, how do we also prioritise community knowledge in such a way where the community has the ownership and also their intellectual property ownership and benefits from that as well? There's more that I could say, I suppose, but I'll finish with this note in that the Maldives has almost 1 ,200 islands that are geographically dispersed. We are called often a small island nation, but we are actually a big ocean nation, as I say. But for healthcare, this means that while there are health centres across the country, the specialised healthcare is concentrated. We often have to go overseas if we really want to do complicated, complex procedures. So how do we actually empower healthcare workers or even provide healthcare in specialised ways that are seamlessly connected across the board? Thank you.
May Siksik
Thank you very much, Noreen. And this is just what Noreen just shared, really just enforces how important it is to have that clinical intelligence that's available even when you don't have connectivity and sovereignty, of course, as well. I'll go next to Juliana. Juliana Hamboudi, she's a counsellor. She's a counsellor for the Health and Health Centre. She's the counsellor for Namibia of the town of Anguidiba. Juliana, are you there?
Juliana Haimbodi
Yes, Mike
May Siksik
Perfect, so Juliana as Namibia explores these ideas which elements of the model are most transferable and what adaptations would be essential for your healthcare context in Namibia
Juliana Haimbodi
Okay, thank you very much Dr. Mai for this wonderful opportunity to be part of this platform Firstly, undoubtedly the healthcare without borders have demonstrated that digital technologies can actually overcome barriers that have historically limited access to quality healthcare especially in a country like Namibia and Namibia is a country with a population of 3 .1 million which is dispersed across a vast geographic area where most healthcare professionals are are mostly concentrated in the urban centers, which leave the rural areas poorly attended in terms of quality health care. And one of the most important principles from this deployment is that the digital health shouldn't replace the health care professionals, but rather complement health care professionals because there's still a stereotype in Namibia that digitalization is taking over jobs for the people. So it will only be good if it complements the health care professionals. And the second thing is that the digital health system should be able to save data, and this data should be securely exchanged across the health institutions. and it should also have the highest level of data privacy that does not flow to foreign servers, but rather stay within the host country and also a highest level of cybersecurity. And thirdly, there is a need to invest into digital infrastructure, into the connectivity, because there are still challenges of Internet protection within rural areas in Namibia, and also digital literacy for the healthcare to be able to upgrade these systems and make use of the systems. So in short, that's what I
May Siksik
Thank you very much, Juliana. And next, our panelist, Dr. Amit Rai, Dr. Amit Rana. Dr. Amit Rana is... a trauma surgeon from Australia who also has done amazing work as a clinician. Amit, from a clinician's perspective, what would it take for an infrastructure like this to improve access to underserved patients while making life easier for healthcare professionals?
Amit Rana
First of all, I would like to thank May for adding clinical perspective to this dialogue because most of the times when we talk about future of healthcare, we tend to focus on technology and consumers, but we also must not forget the care providers who are the health system's most critical and constrained resource, particularly in rural and remote indigenous communities. As we know, medicine is a mission -driven profession built on service and human connection, and supporting this mission means enabling clinicians to work more effectively. to deliver better clinical outcomes. With healthcare without borders, I think there is a very unique value proposition that it can create value for both sides, for those who seek care and those who provide care. The communities that we serve, these are the conventionally marginalized communities, and this model has the potential to replace fragmented care with connected care, episodic care with coordinated and continuous care, which closely aligns with the clinical mission that we just mentioned about. Co -designing care with the communities and clinicians. Embedding cultural services. Safety shared ownership builds trust, and it also increases confidence for early utilization of the health care services, enabling clinicians to serve better the same philosophy that. patient and community experience also extends to the clinicians and care providers. A well -designed healthcare system shows the promise from the clinician's angle or viewpoint in reducing the workflow friction, integrating technology better, connecting clinicians to the specialist support or multidisciplinary approach, also lessening the burnout and attrition risk, reducing non -clinical time, and no professional isolation, lowering cognitive load, and also support a career development through a very continuous learning mentorship kind of ecosystem. Perhaps the greatest opportunity for this system is to reimagine both provider and consumer communities as close partners and collaborators, working towards shared goals, and hence by helping clinicians to fulfill their responsibilities and their mission. I think we can strengthen the culture of care, improve patient experience and outcomes, and hence we can build healthier communities across the globe. So with that, would end. Thank you.
May Siksik
Thank you very much, Amit. I just thank you, everybody. Thank you to all the panelists and everyone for being here. I wanted to say that I'm really looking forward to working with everybody here. This group that has been working together now for a while, and we all have this shared goal of delivering sovereign, equitable, accessible health care to everyone in the world, regardless of where they live. And I really believe that we're on the path to delivering that. So it's very excited. Thank you, everybody. I'm very, very privileged to work with each and Thanks, everyone. And thank you to our tech support. Okay. Okay. Maybe before, if we do have a minute. Does anybody have any questions from online audience or in -person audience? Yes, Arif? Do you want to just use this?
Participant
There are various people in the room. I just wanted to ask you, as some of you know, in about 100 days or so, 56 government leaders will be coming together from the Commonwealth, from Canada, from the Maldives and other countries. So my question, and you kind of touched on elements of this, but my question would be simply, what would be your one ask? If you were in the room right now with those 56 heads and some of them will be on their way or putting their papers and their documents and their briefing together right now, what would your message be to the heads of government when they come together in Antigua and Barbuda in the beginning of November this year?
May Siksik
yeah so I'll pass the mic to everybody else to answer as well but from my perspective I'd have two main things one of the most important things is to actually have a group who will sit together and be part of how we will design and deploy this in different contexts and I think the Commonwealth and I've said it before I was at the Commonwealth trade ministers meeting last year in business summit in Namibia and this was one of the points that I raised the Commonwealth is very well positioned to be a great partner in this because of there are so many member countries and many of these countries struggle with rural medicine and so on so to actually assemble a committee that would work with us where we can create a scalable model that takes context into account because that's the most important part that's number one number two number three we need this to be We do need – we've had an amazing group of people who've come together and philanthropists, and it would be great to have a more scalable model with established funding through the Commonwealth and other sources. Anybody else? So Pam and – Definitely have thoughts about that.
Pam Dixon
So we think about the Commonwealth a lot at World Privacy Forum. The small island developing states are extraordinarily important because there's so many of them, and approximately 40 of them lack any form of data protection governance on the books. And the reason is because GDPR, the General Data Protection Regulation, is far too heavy of a lift. So there's another legal instrument called the Convention, the Council of Europe Framework 108 Plus, and this is open to the public. all countries in the world, all of them. And this framework would allow those jurisdictions to put in place rules that will allow them to enforce much, much better data management from external bodies and start stopping the data extractivism that seems to happen in these areas so much, which I think would be the second point. The data extractivism that's happening in the Commonwealth across all the different jurisdictions is very troubling. And this would be our top goal along with the framework so that there's enforcement teeth for that.
Nurain Janah
Just briefly, the majority of the world's small states, not just the Commonwealth, are part of the Commonwealth. So if I can take the perspective of the small states, not just small island states, across when you're deploying health care, Maldives has just launched Maldives. Maldives Health Digital Blueprint. But if you look at what we're asking for, we still have to invite vendors from globally. So I think if we look at the technology that's being deployed locally in those small states, it's really capacity building and also the ability to negotiate from a resource asymmetry, empower asymmetry perspective. How do you actually negotiate interoperable systems that are not, as Pam was saying, not extractive but also adapted to our context and also empowered to make those decisions
May Siksik
Absolutely. Absolutely. I want to add quickly to that that data right now is a new gold. And these communities have not had access. I know indigenous communities in Canada have not had access, for example, to their own data to learn from it and to act on that. And this is, again, this is why sovereignty is extremely important. We want to give community access. We want to give people access to their data and power over what they do with this knowledge and the ability to collaborate and share this intelligence on a global level. Okay, thank you.
Amit Rana
Just a brief comment on, mainly on the leadership side. I think when these leaders come together, we hope for more collaborative approach and that should include the divergence within that group as well. They should address that because most of the member states are at different stages of digitalization and data governance and one sweeping guidelines won't address that. So creating more clusters, being more empathetic to both scale up and unscale at the same time is a better, perhaps better leadership approach as such. Thank you.
May Siksik
Absolutely. One very, I just want to ask if any of the online panelists, if anybody wants to say anything? Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. okay okay thank you so much oh juliana did you want to say anything robert oh robert yeah
Robert Bartlett
uh look i just want to add my thanks like um this is really important and i've heard some really great comments today that um kind of eases the path that i know our nation faces and all nations faces from hearing our panelists and everybody online you know you've raised words around protecting the data you know this data extortionism you know digital kind of just changing the top discussion is this is really going to make a difference on the ground in the communities which is what i care about and then that global impact so i feel like we're building something in the right way and so thank you for letting us be a part of this
May Siksik
absolutely thank you robert okay thank you so much everybody and thank you so much for our tech support for letting us stay a little longer thank you everyone bye

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