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Human-Centred Model for Global AI Governance: What Can Be Learned from the Council of Europe’s Framework Convention on Artificial Intelligence (Vilnius Convention)

7 speakers
Summary

This session focused on the significance of the Council of Europe's Convention on Artificial Intelligence and Human Rights - the first legally binding international treaty on AI - and how it can be implemented across diverse legal and political systems .

Panellists broadly agreed that the Convention's most important contribution is filling a critical gap in the global governance landscape by providing a legally binding instrument grounded in human rights, democracy, and the rule of law, complementing the many existing soft-law and technical standards frameworks . Thomas Schneider emphasised that the Convention does not replace existing legal instruments but ensures that the same level of protection applied to other technologies is extended to AI . Matthias Kloth highlighted the Convention's global vocation, noting that with 21 signatories - including the European Union representing 27 member states - nearly 50 countries and all G7 states have endorsed it .

Takuo Imagawa and Gillian Frost, representing Japan and Canada respectively - two non-European signatories - stressed that the Convention's attractiveness lies in three qualities: shared universal values, flexibility for countries with differing legal traditions, and interoperability between national regulatory systems . Frost noted that the Convention aligns closely with Canada's own AI strategy, which prioritises building public trust, opening new opportunities, and affirming Canadian sovereignty .

On implementation, Kloth and Schneider pointed to the HUDERIA methodology - a risk and impact assessment tool developed alongside the Convention - as a practical starting point for any country, regardless of whether it has signed . Professor Paulius Pakutinskas underlined the importance of exchanging good and bad practices within the growing community of states to help others understand how to apply the framework .

The discussion concluded with a shared call for ratification, with Kloth specifying that five ratifications are needed for the Convention to enter into force and urging signatories to act swiftly so that a Conference of Parties can begin overseeing implementation . The overall consensus was that the Convention's long-term success depends not merely on signatures but on ratification, implementation, and the cultivation of a trusted global community committed to governing AI responsibly .

Keypoints
  • Overall Purpose

  • The discussion aimed to examine the Council of Europe's Convention on Artificial Intelligence and Human Rights as a landmark legally binding international treaty, exploring its contributions to global AI governance, its practical implementation challenges, and how it can attract broader international participation while balancing innovation with the protection of human rights, democracy, and the rule of law.
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  • Major Discussion Points

  • The Vilnius Convention as the first legally binding international AI governance instrument. Speakers consistently highlighted the Convention's historic significance as the first comprehensive, legally binding international treaty on AI. Unlike the many existing soft-law instruments and principles, it fills a critical gap by ensuring that human rights, democracy, and the rule of law apply specifically to AI systems. Thomas Schneider noted that AI governance, like other technologies, requires a mix of technical, legal, and societal norms, and the Convention provides the binding legal layer that was previously absent.
  • Flexibility and global vocation as key strengths encouraging wider participation. A recurring theme was that the Convention's framework nature - providing principles rather than prescriptive rules - makes it attractive to countries with diverse legal traditions and regulatory approaches. Japan's Vice Minister Imagawa identified shared values, flexibility, and interoperability as the three pillars that make such an instrument practical for different nations. Matthias Kloth underlined that, with 21 signatories including the EU (representing 27 member states), the Convention effectively encompasses nearly 50 countries - almost a quarter of all states globally. - Implementation priorities: risk assessment, the HUDERIA methodology, and interoperability with technical standards. Practical implementation was a central concern, with speakers pointing to the HUDERIA (Human Rights, Democracy, and Rule of Law Impact Assessment) methodology as an immediate, concrete tool governments can use to begin assessing AI risks. Matthias Kloth stressed the complementarity between HUDERIA and ISO/IEC technical standards, bridging the gap between human rights law and technical norm-setting. Imagawa also emphasised that interoperability between national regulatory systems is essential to avoid conflicting rules across borders. - Building a global community of trusted AI governance beyond signatures. Speakers stressed that the Convention's true value lies not merely in the legal text but in the community of practice it fosters - enabling mutual learning, sharing of good practices, and collaborative capacity-building. Canada's Gillian Frost highlighted how the Convention deepens partnerships among like-minded states, establishes a baseline of shared values, and can support developing countries through the Council of Europe's outreach efforts. Professor Pakutinskas reinforced that the Convention is a "backbone" or "architecture," not a final document, and that ongoing exchange of experiences is critical.
  • Ratification as the urgent next step to bring the Convention into force. All panellists converged on the need to move swiftly from signature to ratification. Matthias Kloth noted that five ratifications are required for the Convention to enter into force, with only one (the EU, representing 28 parties) secured so far. Thomas Schneider warned against the Convention remaining merely a paper instrument and urged all signatories to ratify as soon as possible so the community can formally convene and implementation can begin in earnest. Japan's Imagawa additionally recommended leveraging existing platforms such as the Hiroshima AI Process and the OECD AI Policy Toolkit to deepen understanding and facilitate concrete policy development. ---
  • Overall Tone

  • The overall tone of the discussion was constructive, collaborative, and cautiously optimistic. From the outset, speakers adopted a collegial register, expressing mutual respect and shared commitment to human-centred AI governance. There was a consistent sense of collective pride in the Convention's achievement, particularly given the complexity of the negotiations. As the discussion progressed from opening remarks to practical implementation questions, the tone became slightly more pragmatic and urgent, particularly around ratification. Speakers acknowledged real-world constraints without becoming pessimistic. The closing exchanges carried a rallying quality, with panellists directly encouraging signatories in the room to pursue ratification and continue building the global community the Convention envisions.
Speakers Overview
TI
Takuo Imagawa
140 wpm · 5 min
TS
Thomas Schneider
174 wpm · 5 min
MK
Matthias Kloth
161 wpm · 7 min
GF
Gillian Frost
135 wpm · 6 min
PP
Paulius Pakutinskas
144 wpm · 4 min
DZ
Darius Zajilskas
68 wpm · 3 min
M
Moderator
98 wpm · 15 min

Expanded Summary: Human-Centred Model for Global AI Governance - The Vilnius Convention

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Session Overview and Context

The session, held at an international forum in Geneva, was convened to examine the Council of Europe's Framework Convention on Artificial Intelligence and Human Rights - commonly known as the Vilnius Convention - as a landmark instrument in global AI governance . The moderator opened by framing the Convention's distinctive significance: unlike the many existing international discussions on AI governance, the Vilnius Convention moves beyond principles alone by providing countries with a common legal framework that they can actually implement . The session brought together a carefully assembled panel representing government, international organisations, and academia, including senior officials from Lithuania, Japan, Canada, Switzerland, and the Council of Europe, as well as a UNESCO chair on artificial intelligence . The central questions posed to the panel were: what is the Convention's most important contribution to global AI governance, and what would encourage more countries to join and implement it ?

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Opening Remarks: Lithuania's Perspective

Darius Zajilskas, Vice Minister of Economy and Innovation of the Republic of Lithuania, opened the discussion by underlining the significance of the Convention as the first binding international treaty on AI . He noted that artificial intelligence presents significant opportunities - including more efficient services and simpler solutions for citizens and businesses - but that these opportunities must be grounded in trust-based technologies . Lithuania, he explained, views the Convention as providing strong foundations that are directly reflected in the national AI strategy adopted that year, and sees digital transformation anchored in democratic values as a core national priority . Zajilskas expressed his anticipation for the discussion and the challenge of translating the Convention's commitments into concrete action .

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The Convention's Historic Significance: Filling a Critical Governance Gap

The panel's opening exchange converged on a shared assessment of the Convention's most important contribution: its legally binding character. Takuo Imagawa, Vice Minister for International Affairs at Japan's Ministry of International Affairs and Communications, described the Convention, adopted in 2024, as "the first comprehensive legally binding international instrument governing AI grounded in human rights, democracy, and the rule of law" . He expressed sincere respect for the Council of Europe and all collaborating countries, and situated the Convention within Japan's broader international engagement, including the Hiroshima AI Process and the United Nations Global Dialogue on AI Governance . In his view, the Convention is of paramount importance precisely because it establishes both fundamental values and seven specific principles in a legally binding manner, serving as a foundation for confirming shared values and advancing AI governance based on mutual trust .

Thomas Schneider, Co-Director of Ofcom Switzerland and former chair of the Council of Europe's Committee on Artificial Intelligence - and thus one of the Convention's principal architects - offered a historically grounded perspective . Drawing an analogy to the governance of technologies from the first industrial revolution, he observed that governing any technology requires a mix of technical norms, legal norms, and societal norms . In the AI context, institutions such as the ITU, ISO, UNESCO, and the OECD have developed technical standards and soft-law instruments, and sectoral and self-regulatory tools also exist . What had been absent, Schneider argued, was a binding legal instrument that does not replace broader human rights conventions but ensures that existing legal frameworks - and the same level of protection afforded to other technologies - apply specifically to AI . The Convention fills precisely this gap, and should be understood not as a standalone solution but as "a part of a growing mix of instruments of technical, legal and societal laws" .

Matthias Kloth, Head of Digital Governance and Sports at the Council of Europe, aligned himself with Schneider's assessment, identifying the legally binding nature of the framework convention as its particular strength compared to all other AI governance initiatives . He added an important nuance, however: the word "framework" matters, because it provides genuine flexibility for states . This combination of binding obligation and implementation flexibility is, in his view, what makes the Convention attractive to a wide range of countries . Kloth also paid tribute to Schneider's role in chairing the difficult negotiations, noting that agreement on the final text was reached "almost at midnight," reflecting the complexity and effort involved in the process .

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Global Reach and Participation

Kloth provided a striking statistical reframing of the Convention's reach. With 21 signatories, the raw number might appear modest, but one of those signatories is the European Union, signing on behalf of its 27 member states . When this is taken into account, the Convention effectively encompasses nearly 50 countries - almost a quarter of all states globally - and all G7 states are on board . Kloth emphasised that the Convention has a global vocation: it is not restricted to Council of Europe members, and all like-minded states around the world can join . He pointed to Japan and Canada as examples of non-European observer states that were actively involved in the negotiations and have already signed . This global character, he argued, means the Convention creates "the global community of trusted AI that protects human rights" , of which the Council of Europe is immensely proud .

Kloth also noted that the Council of Europe follows the tradition of naming conventions after the city where they are opened for signature - hence the Budapest Convention on Cybercrime and now the Vilnius Framework Convention on Artificial Intelligence. He acknowledged Lithuania's role in facilitating this milestone, noting that the Convention was opened for signature at a Ministers of Justice conference of all 46 Council of Europe member states held in Vilnius in September 2024 .

Gillian Frost, Director General for Cyber, Critical Technology and Democratic Resilience at Global Affairs Canada, confirmed this assessment from a non-European perspective. As an observer of the Council of Europe, Canada views the Convention as a landmark treaty that offers a rights-based approach to AI governance while providing states with flexibility to grow their AI industries and accommodate diverse legal and political systems . Frost stressed that with the rapid development of AI, it is essential not to lose sight of the importance of ensuring responsible adoption in full respect of human rights . She noted that the Convention is very much consistent with Canada's own AI strategy, launched approximately a month prior, which strives for economic and social opportunities for all Canadians while advancing AI safely and transparently in a manner that reflects Canadian values . The treaty, she argued, can unite states from different regions around shared values of human rights and democracy while simultaneously recognising and preserving regulatory diversity , echoing her Japanese colleague's point that the Convention is "very much a foundation of shared values and is a foundation to advance mutual trust among states" . Frost also highlighted the Convention's potential to support outreach to developing countries, noting that as different states ratify it, the treaty will gradually become "a rich source of experience and best practice on governing AI across sectors within different national contexts" . This could enrich the Council of Europe's capacity-building efforts and advance the goals of the UN Global Digital Compact .

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Academic and Societal Perspectives

Professor Paulius Pakutinskas, UNESCO Chair on Artificial Intelligence, Emerging Technologies and Innovations for Society, offered a perspective that combined academic rigour with a note of candour about the challenges of AI regulation . He observed that AI regulation is genuinely difficult - it is not simply about prohibitions, but about boosting innovation and competitiveness alongside rights protection . He welcomed the idea of a global community working together on AI regulation, emphasising that the Convention is not a final document but a backbone or architectural framework upon which countries can collaboratively build further steps . He drew a parallel with the EU AI Act, noting that even that instrument requires many further exercises and steps at national and European level . Pakutinskas also offered a frank assessment of the existing landscape: there is already "a lot of soft regulation, really a lot of soft regulation. Too many, I think" , making the Convention's role as a common backbone of shared values all the more valuable . Crucially, he argued that the values underpinning the Convention - human rights, democracy, and the rule of law - are not complicated or contentious: "What are contradictions with your countries? Do you have really any contradictions here?" . This principle-based approach, he concluded, enables the flexibility and compromise necessary for broad participation .

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Making the Convention Attractive Across Diverse Legal Traditions

The moderator then turned to more practical questions about implementation and attractiveness for countries with different legal and institutional traditions . Imagawa responded by articulating a three-pillar framework. First, shared values: in advancing international cooperation, it is essential that all nations have a common foundation of values upon which they can rely, and the Convention provides this in a legally binding form . Second, flexibility: even where universal values are shared, how they are put into practice depends on each country's circumstances . He contrasted the EU's hard-law AI Act with Japan's reliance on soft-law guidelines, noting that this stems from Japan's distinct legal and cultural background and that "overly uniform institutional design risks making participation and implementation difficult for individual countries" . Third, interoperability: since AI operates across national borders, it is crucial that the systems and rules of different countries do not conflict, and that certifications and evaluations can be mutually recognised . Striking a balance between firmly establishing core elements and allowing flexibility in other areas is, in his view, the key to effective international legal framework design .

Schneider elaborated on the interoperability dimension from Switzerland's perspective, noting that Switzerland's system needs to be interoperable with the EU AI Act so that its people and companies are not impeded at national borders . The Convention helps achieve this not just within Europe but between Switzerland, Canada, Japan, and others - and interest is growing from Latin America and Africa as well . He also drew on the precedent of the Budapest Convention on Cybercrime, which has been signed by approximately 82 countries but involves well over 100 countries in cooperative frameworks . He anticipated the same dynamic for the Vilnius Convention: "the convention is a vehicle, but the community around it, the exchanges, the mutual learning is way bigger than just the ones that have already signed it" . This community extends beyond Strasbourg to Geneva and other institutions, including UNESCO and the OECD, where the practical question of turning legal commitments into reality is being actively pursued .

Schneider also introduced a concrete tool that extends the Convention's practical reach: the Huderia methodology, developed by the Council of Europe together with countries and stakeholders from around the world, including standardisation bodies and industry . Huderia - which, as Kloth explained, means risk and impact assessment from the perspective of human rights, democracy and the rule of law - provides a concrete methodology for risk and impact assessments that is useful regardless of whether a country has signed the Convention or what its legal basis is .

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Implementation Priorities: From Signature to Action

The moderator asked what governments should prioritise first when moving from signature to implementation . Kloth identified the obligation within the Convention for countries to assess the risks and impacts of AI systems on human rights, democracy, and the rule of law, and to mitigate any risks that arise . The Huderia methodology, endorsed by all 46 Council of Europe member states, provides an immediate and practical starting point for any country to begin this process today . He also highlighted the complementarity between Huderia and ISO/IEC technical standards, noting that a workshop held that morning had underlined this complementarity in the context of AI impact assessments in the real world . As a human rights lawyer himself, Kloth acknowledged the importance of bridging the gap between the human rights legal community and the technical standards world .

Frost described Canada's experience of aligning ratification with national strategy development, noting that the timing of Canada's AI strategy and the Vilnius Convention's implementation "is actually quite aligned" . She identified two dimensions of implementation: internationally, the Convention allows Canada to deepen partnerships with like-minded partners in Europe and beyond, building trust and sharing experiences in a complex landscape ; domestically, it is consistent with Canada's AI strategy for all, which is built around three priorities - building public trust, opening new opportunities, and affirming Canadian sovereignty . She also noted that the Convention can help counter collective security concerns arising from technology, including threats to human rights, gender equality, and democratic resilience . As Canada implements its new strategy, the Vilnius Convention's framework will inform both domestic and international dimensions of that work .

Pakutinskas reinforced the importance of community and exchange in implementation, recommending that countries share good and bad practices to help each other understand where they are struggling and how to solve problems . He argued that as more examples accumulate, it will become much easier for other countries to understand how to apply the Convention .

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The Convention's Long-Term Strategic Legacy

The moderator invited reflection on the Convention's broader strategic legacy for global AI governance . Pakutinskas argued that the Convention's value lies in its capacity to connect diverse countries and peoples around something unifying, given that purely local solutions are insufficient in a globally interconnected AI landscape . He acknowledged that different laws will inevitably exist across different cultures, religions, and legal systems, but the Convention provides the unifying framework upon which further steps can be built . It is not the final step, but a crucial starting point .

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Closing Recommendations: The Urgency of Ratification

The session concluded with each panellist offering a single priority recommendation for the coming year. Frost called for sustained advocacy, outreach, and the sharing of ideas to build broader support across regional groupings, helping other countries consider how to develop their AI strategies and legislation . Kloth was direct: the Council of Europe's immediate priority is for the Convention to enter into force, which requires five ratifications among Council of Europe member states . So far, only the EU has ratified - but this counts as a 28-party ratification given the EU's 27 member states . He expressed concern about a potential "catch-up bottleneck" for countries outside Europe that must wait until the Convention enters into force before they can sign, and urged signatories to act swiftly . All signatories present in the room were encouraged to work actively towards ratification and to invite other states to join .

Schneider echoed this urgency with notable candour. Noting that even in bilateral conversations with major industry actors such as Microsoft's Brad Smith, there remains a call for clear governance principles, he observed that the principles already exist - the Convention is there . He acknowledged that Switzerland's own direct democratic processes mean ratification is unlikely for some years, given Switzerland's direct democratic processes , but nonetheless urged everyone to ratify as soon as possible so that the Convention does not "just remain a paper that people know it's there, but it's not yet real" . The sooner the community formally convenes, the sooner countries will realise the Convention is real, usable, and implementable .

Imagawa recommended two complementary actions: utilising existing global dialogue platforms - including the UN Global Dialogue, ITU's AIFO group, and the Hiroshima Process Friends group - to share policy insights related to the Convention ; and collaborating with existing knowledge-sharing mechanisms such as the OECD AI Policy Toolkit, released the previous month, to deepen understanding and facilitate concrete policy development .

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Moderator's Conclusion

The moderator closed the session by thanking all panellists and the Vice Minister of Lithuania, and by distilling the session's core message: the Vilnius Convention is not merely a legal framework but an enabler of trusted and practical AI governance . Its success depends not only on signatures but absolutely on ratification, implementation, and the cultivation of a growing community of countries choosing to build trustworthy AI governance together . The moderator invited panellists to continue informal discussions with the audience following the session, given the time constraints that had prevented audience participation .

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Overall Assessment

The discussion was characterised by a high degree of consensus on the Convention's foundational importance, its global vocation, and the urgency of moving from signature to ratification and implementation. Underlying tensions - between binding legal obligations and soft-law flexibility , between the Convention as a complete instrument and as an evolving backbone , and between the proliferation of existing soft regulation and the need for a common framework - were present but not openly confrontational. The session's constructive and collaborative tone reflected a shared commitment among like-minded states to human-centred AI governance, while the frank acknowledgements of ratification delays and regulatory complexity added intellectual honesty to what might otherwise have been a purely ceremonial endorsement. The Convention's long-term legacy, all speakers agreed, will be determined not by the legal text alone but by the community of practice, mutual learning, and shared accountability that grows around it .

Moderator
Perfect. Good afternoon, Excellencies, distinguished speakers, colleagues, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much for joining us in this session on Human -Centered Model for Global AI Governance. Today, we are going to discuss what can we learn from the Council of Europe's Convention on Artificial Intelligence and Human Rights, the Vilnius Convention. The Vilnius Convention is important because it moves the global conversation beyond principles alone. Almost every international organization today is discussing AI governance. What makes the Vilnius Convention unique is that it provides countries with a common legal framework that they can implement. Therefore, the next challenge is not only to discuss principles, but also to broaden participation and translate commitments into action. Today, we will address practical questions about how the Vilnius Convention contributes to AI governance, supports responsible innovation, and protects fundamental freedoms. And can help countries with different legal and institutional traditions to build trustworthy AI governance framework. It is my honor to invite the Vice Minister of Economy and Innovation of the Republic of Lithuania, Darius Zajilskas, to open the discussion with some opening remarks.
Darius Zajilskas
Thank you. Distinguished Excellencies, Ladies and Gentlemen, and Colleagues. It is a great pleasure for me to open the discussion on the future of artificial intelligence and to explore how we can ensure that artificial intelligence is humanized, democracy -centered. I'd like, first of all, to highlight the significance of the U .S. Convention signed in U .S. 2021 and its first landing international treaty at the AI. Artificial intelligence. It can produce us significant opportunities. such as efficient services, better solutions, which makes simpler services for citizens and businesses. And all these opportunities are placed in trust -based technologies. And Lithuania is the main key element of digital transformation. We are installing secure digital identity and outstanding data -driven services. And our vision is that AI ensures that the digital transformation of the system is a key part of the digital transformation of the system. And we are working on it. could use these eye tools. If I'm talking about the Williams Convention, so the Williams Convention provides strong foundations, and the same approach is reflected in the AI strategy which we adopted this year. So, I'm looking forward to today's discussion and hearing your perspectives on how we can translate these which we have in the convention into actions which we can use in
Moderator
the convention practice. So, thank you. Thank you very much thank you very much for setting the scene from Lithuania's perspective and for underlining that AI governance must enable innovation while ensuring that technology remains firmly anchored in democratic values and human dignity Let me now turn to our panel and briefly introduce our distinguished speakers I will start with His Excellency Dr. Takuo Imagawa Vice Minister for International Affairs at Japan's Ministry of International Affairs and Communications Thank you leading voice on international digital policy Thank you so much Thomas Schneider Co -Director of Ofcom Switzerland and and former chair of the Council of Europe's Committee on Artificial Intelligence. So one of the architects of the Vilnius Convention. Mr. Matthias Kloth, head of digital governance and sports department at the Council of Europe. So representing the Council of Europe institution behind the convention. Mrs. Gillian Frost, director general for cyber critical technology and democratic resilience at Global Affairs Canada. Canada's senior expert on cyber and democratic resilience. And Professor Paulus Tokutinskas, professor at Nicholas Ramirez University and UNESCO chair on artificial intelligence, emerging technologies, and innovations for society. It's our leading voice on AI governance and emerging technologies. So we have an exceptional panel bringing together perspectives from government, international organizations, and academia. And I would like to begin the discussion with one common opening question to all speakers. We know that the Vilnius Convention is the first legally binding international treaty on artificial intelligence. So in your view, what is the Convention's most important contribution to global AI governance? And what would encourage more countries to join and implement it?
Takuo Imagawa
So please, Dr. Imagawa, let's start with you. Thank you, moderator. Good afternoon, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Imagawa. I would like to express my appreciation for being invited to this session. The Bill Nielsen Convention, adopted in 2024, two years ago, is of great significance as the first comprehensive legally binding international instrument governing AI grounded in human rights, democracy, and the rule of law. I would like to express my sincere respect to the Council of Europe and to all the countries that have collaborated on its development, spearheading this pioneering initiative. From the perspective of AI governance, international cooperation is essential. Japan has taken the lead in the so -called Hiroshima AI process and has been actively working to establish an international framework for the realization of safe, secure, and sustainable AI governance. Furthermore, collaboration among diverse stakeholders plays a crucial role in multi -stakeholder initiatives. such as the United Nations Global Dialogue on AI Governance. To ensure that international cooperation is effective, shared values that serve as its foundation are indispensable. From our perspective, we believe that the Bill Nielsen Convention is of paramount importance in that it clearly sets both fundamental values such as respect for human rights, democracy, and the rule of law, as well as its seven principles in a legally binding manner. At the same time, these values are universal and are shared within the Hiroshima Air Process and the UN's Global Dialogue. So this convention serves as a foundation for confirming shared values with the signatory countries and advancing AI governance based on mutual trust. We also believe that in our relation with non -signatory countries, the convention can play a significant role in
Moderator
Thank you very much. And now I would like to ask Ambassador Schneider also to respond to the same question, please.
Thomas Schneider
Thank you very much. Well, we are here in Geneva, which is the home of a number of governance instruments that have been developed here. And I think if you look at, first of all, we have a set of governance instruments that go beyond the particular technology about our lives, our rights, how we do things, and so on. And, of course, these instruments also apply to our interrelation with AI and using this technology. And if you look at how we govern other technologies, normally it's a mix of hundreds or thousands of technical norms, legal norms. But if you look at how we govern other technologies, normally it's a mix of hundreds or thousands of technical norms, legal norms. But also societal norms that may differ from culture to culture that together govern a technology. We can take the engines if you take. the equivalent from the first industrial revolution where we have norms about the engines themselves, about the vehicles that they are in, about the infrastructure that are used, about the people that manipulate the vehicles or the engines or the machines. And the same is happening now with AI. You have institutions here in Geneva. You have the ITU, the ISO, the International Electrical Technical Committee that develop technical standards. You have others like IEEE and so on. You have many institutions on regional and global level that have developed software instruments from UNESCO, OECD. Others you have sectoral solutions, business solutions, self -regulatory tools. What we did not have so far is a binding legal instrument that is not replacing all the other broader legal instruments like a human rights convention, but is specifying or is helping us to ensure that the existing legal framework applies also to AI. So this is the big... ...gap that the convention has filled to build on everything else. but to make sure that human rights, democracy and rule of law, the same level of protection is applied to this technology like what is applied to other
Moderator
technologies. But it is not one instrument. It's a part of a growing mix of instruments of technical, legal and societal laws. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Thomas, very much. And indeed for pointing out the added value of this convention indeed to the global AI governance. And now I turn to Mr. Kloff. And I would also like to ask what would encourage, well, what is the biggest, well, of course, we've
Matthias Kloth
Thank you, Ms. Ambassador, and good afternoon, everybody. Well, I think I would like to align myself with Ambassador Schneider first of all by saying the particular strength compared to all the other AI governance initiatives we see is the legally binding nature of the framework convention. But also we should perhaps stress the word framework because it does actually provide flexibility for states. And if you ask me what is in there for states to actually accede to this, I think this flexibility is quite an important part. It delivers principles, and if those principles are actually applied, then the existing human rights treaties work perfectly also for a world in which AI all of a sudden has disappeared. So the strength of the convention, I can perhaps relate to some of the people sitting in the panel, if I may. And if I may start with Ambassador Schneider, these were not easy negotiations. And to try to find compromises, and I remember because he was chairing these negotiations, it was almost midnight when finally the final text was discovered. So he has a lot of... deserves a lot of praise for that. And then, of course, also Lithuania as a country, and I'm very happy that you facilitate this event by actually making the opening for signature at the occasion of a Minister of Justice conference of all 46 Council of Europe member states in Vilnius in September 2024. But I should also say the great strength, and this is also something that is interesting for third states outside of Europe, it's a convention with a global vocation, which means all like -minded states around the world can join. And we have two examples here, Japan with Vice Minister Dr. Imagawa, and then Canada with Director General Frost, who were actively involved in the negotiations and have already signed the convention. We now have 21 signatories. It doesn't sound so much, but you have to... add to that that one of them is the European Union that signed on behalf of its 27 member states. So if you take this all together, this almost brings it to 50 countries around the world who have endorsed the Vilnius Convention. And that is almost a quarter of all states around the world. All G7 states are on board. So I think this is quite reassuring. And I think for like -minded states outside of Europe should see that this Vilnius Convention creates the global community of trusted AI that protects human rights. And I think I leave it here, but I think it is a very, very good initiative of which we are immensely proud at the Council of Europe. Thank you.
Moderator
Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And in particular for highlighting that although this is Council of Europe's convention, but it's definitely global convention. We are all the countries around the world. joins, can join, and I really believe that our discussion today will encourage to join this convention. And you mentioned Canada, so I would really be very happy to hear what strength and value added of this convention you see from Canadian perspective. Please. Thank
Gillian Frost
you, and I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Lithuania for hosting this event, to be here with esteemed colleagues, and for others in the audience around, I think, very important discussions that are happening this week. I think, you know, Canada is an observer of the Council of Europe, and I think, as was pointed out, as observers Japan and Canada, I think this is a landmark treaty. that offers a rights -based approach to AI governance, but at the same time provides states with flexibility to grow our AI industries while accommodating our diverse legal and political systems. With the rapid development of AI, it is essential that we not lose sight of the importance of ensuring its responsible adoption in full respect of human rights. And this is very much consistent with Canada's own approach to AI and the launch of our AI strategy about a month ago by our Minister for AI and Digital Innovation. In that strategy, we were striving for economic and social opportunities that AI can provide to all Canadians, to all sectors of Canadian society. and using AI and advancing AI safely and transparently that reflects Canadian values. I think this is very much part of the discussions that we are hearing here throughout the two days that I was in the dialogue and already starts of conversations happening today. The treaty can unite states from different regions around shared values of human rights and democracy, or at the same time recognize and preserve regulatory diversity. And I think I would echo what my Japanese colleague said, that it is very much a foundation of shared values and is a foundation to advance mutual trust among states. As different states ratify it, the treaty will gradually become a rich source of experience and best practice on governing AI across sectors within different national contexts. This could support the Council of Europe's outreach to developing countries and enrich its capacity -building efforts and enrich its capacity -building efforts and enrich its capacity -building efforts which would advance the goals of the UN Global Digital Compact
Moderator
to address AI. Thank you, Director General Frost, very much for underlining the global nature of the Convention and also referring to all countries around the world, including developing countries and the possible interest of developing countries also to join the Convention, to use the Convention as a legal framework for their own national systems. And to share, well, to join the shared values across the different aspects of AI development and deployment. Now, I would like to ask Professor Pokutinska, please identify the biggest strengths of the Convention from the, well, by the society view, from academic point
Paulius Pakutinskas
of view. please good afternoon everybody thank you for a very nice discussion it's very important it's really difficult to regulate so it's not so easy it's a very new thing we do not know a lot of things and you know that's not just about prohibitions we have a lot of laws and regulations where it's just prohibitions and that's easy here we need to boost innovations here we need to have competitiveness and other a lot of things so what is really important I like the idea of global community which works for AI regulation so that's said in the text of this document that we can create regulation because this convention is not like final document it's a backbone it's architectural architecture and we can create together. So that's very important for you to be in this convention. So that's not a final document where you just sign and then everything is done. No way. So the same with the AI regulation in Europe where we have AI Act. It looks like we have just Act and that's it. No. So we do a lot of steps. We do a lot of exercises in every single country and in Europe at the same time. So that's really, really important to be in this community and to have a possibility to have your voice in this. And, yeah, so when we talk with different stakeholders, different countries, global thousands, other countries, so as Thomas Schneider mentioned, we have a lot of soft regulation, really a lot of soft regulation. Too many, I think. We have one, two, three, four. Five. which we need to use for creating our own laws. So that is a good tool to have some backbone on the same values. And these values are not something very complicated. It's very simple values. It's, you know, human rights, democracy, you know, rule of law. So what are contradictions with your countries? Do you have really any contradictions here? If not, so that's – and that's based on principles. That's very good because then you are not so specific and you are not so detailed. Then it is
Moderator
possible flexibility and compromises. Thank you very much. Thank you to everybody, well, for the excellent perspectives. And now I would like to turn to more practical questions that determine the long -term success of the convention. Thank you. perhaps implementation, international outreach, multi -stakeholder cooperation, government's challenges of rapidly evolving AI technologies, and so on. So let me ask Dr. Inagawa, could you please elaborate a little bit more from Japan's perspective, what would make such international legal instrument attractive and practical for countries with
Takuo Imagawa
different legal traditions and regulatory approaches? Thank you, Ambassador. I'd like to present three perspectives that could help make this initiative. Both attractive and practical for each country as an observer. First, shared values. As our Canadian colleague pointed out, in advancing international cooperation, it is essential that there be values upon which all nations can rely as a common foundation. The cultures, histories, social systems, and regulatory approaches of each country are diverse, and these differences cannot be easily resolved. However, precisely for this reason, there is great significance in clarifying the universal values that underlie them and establishing them as legal obligations. Second, flexibility. As Mr. Cross pointed out already, even if we share universal values, how those values are put into practice depends largely on circumstances of each country. For example, regarding AI, why the EU regulates the sector through the AI Act, a form of hard law, Japan relies primarily on soft law centered on the guidelines. So this stems from Japan's distinct legal and cultural background compared to Europe. And it is a very important factor. It is essential to establish a framework that does not exclude countries or regions with such differing legal and cultural contexts. So it is important to note that but overly uniform institutional design risks making participation and implementation difficult for individual countries. Third, interoperability. Today's digital technologies, including AI, are utilized across national borders. It is not only difficult, but also potentially undesirable to manage them within a single country alone. Therefore, it is crucial that the systems and rules of different countries do not conflict with one another, and are to some extent consistent. In other words, interoperability must be ensured. It is necessary to build relationships that allow different systems to be mutually understood and enable the reciprocal use of certifications and evaluations as needed. In light of these three perspectives, when designing an international legal framework, it is important to strike a balance between firmly establishing the core elements while allowing for flexibility and diversity in other areas. while clearly defining the shared values and fundamental principles, the means of achieving them should be left to the
Moderator
Thank you very much, Vice Minister. And while I would like to stay within the global perspective and turn to Ambassador Schneider, well, you already were talking about the convention, what role the convention can play in Geneva or Geneva can play in promoting dialogue among the members of the convention. So could you elaborate a little bit more on, well, illustrating with more practical, perhaps technical parts of the convention that you have? Could really play an important role in international governance?
Thomas Schneider
others, that our system needs to be interoperable with the AI Act so that our people, our companies, the world will not stop at our borders. And the convention helps not just between Switzerland and Austria and Germany and France and Italy, but actually also between Switzerland and Canada or Japan and Canada and others that will come. Also, there's more coming from Latin America. There's countries in Africa that are interested in becoming part of this. And what Matthias has also mentioned, one thing is the convention is the paper. The other thing is the community that is being built around. And that goes beyond Strasbourg. That is also present here in Geneva and with other institutions from Paris and UNESCO or CD, where you talk about, okay, we have laws, we have papers. How do we turn this into reality? How do we turn this into practice? And they have started, the good president example, of course, is the Cybercrime Convention. The Budapest Convention, where this has been signed by something like, I think, 82 countries. But the cooperation around it. is with like way more than 100 countries that are somehow trying to be and becoming more and more interoperable also with the ones that have not or not yet signed the convention. And I assume and I expect the same to happen here that the convention is a vehicle, but the community around it, the exchanges, the mutual learning is way bigger than just the ones that have already signed it. And I'll stop with the last thing. The Huderia, which is another tool in addition to the convention, that we've been developing in the Council of Europe, also together with countries and stakeholders from all over the world, including standardization bodies and industry, is a concrete methodology on how to actually develop and create risk assessment and impact assessment mechanisms, which no matter what your legal basis is or whether you're a part of the Council of Europe convention or not, you will have to somehow be able to assess risks in a reasonable way, in a pragmatical way. And the Huderia is a very interesting and exciting instrument in that. Thank you.
Moderator
Thank you very much Thomas From my own experience I am a diplomat, I am not a technical person but I have read the convention and I have to say that I understood everything, almost everything and I was very happy to learn that indeed the convention is the foundation based on shared values on human rights, on democracy on rules of law and can be implemented in flexible way in different countries Now I turn to Matthias, to Mr. Kloth and I would like to ask what should governments actually prioritize first when moving from signature to implementation of the convention
Matthias Kloth
Thank you very much One of the privileges to speak right after Thomas is he will have said a lot that you wanted to say but he will have said it in a much better way so we can perhaps save a little bit of time on this I think because the issue on the community which we indeed see with our Budapest convention on cybercrime and I should actually say that the Council of Europe always gives the name to a convention of the place where it was open for signature and so we have the Budapest convention on cybercrime, we have now the Vilnius Framework Convention on Artificial Intelligence and this answers your question now, while countries are moving from signature to implementation I think one of the important issues is that there is an obligation in the convention that countries should assess their risks and impacts of AI systems on human rights, democracy and the rule of law and mitigate any risks if they arise and while they are very free to do this because it's a framework convention the immediate response was that this Houdaria methodology, Houdaria is a beautiful name, it actually means risk and impact assessment from the perspective of of human rights, democracy and the rule of law, I think, which was also endorsed by all 46 member states of the Council of Europe. So it really has a government, a large government backing. That is really where even today any country can start and try to assess the risk. And let me just take up one thing about interoperability, which is, I think, a very important point that the vice minister in Maghaba has made, right, but also building a bridge to technical standards. I myself, I'm a human rights lawyer. I have difficulties to understand technical standards, and people from the technical standards world may not be familiar with all sorts of human rights context. And I think it's important that this methodology works very well with ISO IEC standards. In fact, we had a fantastic or colleagues made a fantastic workshop this morning on AI impact assessments in the real world and the complementarity between Huderia. And the technical standards was underlined. So in a nutshell, that is something where states can actually start already today. Thank you. Thank
Moderator
you, thank you very much indeed well on this last point I would like to ask Canada how do you start with implementation or discussion about the implementation of the convention also in terms of value added of this of this illegally binding instrument alongside with national AI governance
Gillian Frost
initiatives Thank you and I think the timing of our AI strategy and implementation and ratification of the Vilnius convention is actually quite aligned maybe I don't know if it was planned but I think it aligns well there's two kind of points I want to make one is around international and one is sort of more on a domestic lining up one It allows us to deepen our partnerships with like -minded partners in Europe and beyond. Again, this is about building trust. This is about a foundation of shared values. And this is about having, I think, sharing experiences and understanding of how are we going to move forward in this complex landscape. I'm not a technical expert. I'm a diplomat by career. And so when I start getting into these issues, the complexity can be quite overwhelming, even for a country like Canada. I think, you know, it establishes a baseline sort of set of rules. And in my other responsibilities, we are seeing the threats that technology are posing to human rights, to gender equality, to our democratic resilience and institutions and processes. And I think. having common goals and objectives with partners in this area will allow us to counter some of the collective security concerns too that are arising from technology. At home, this is very much consistent with our AI strategy for all. And the desire from Canada's perspective is we implement our new strategy to address the growing risks of AI to human rights and democratic institutions. Our strategy is really built around three principles and priorities, building public trust, opening new opportunities, and affirming Canadian sovereignty. So as we look to implement our AI strategy and actually put the meat to the bones of what we're have announced, it will very much be about implementing and some of the elements of what exists out there in terms of frameworks, the Vilnius Convention, and then applying this in both a domestic lens but also an international
Moderator
lens. Thank you. Thank you very much indeed. I would like to ask Professor Pukutinskas also, well, if Vilnius Convention succeeds, well, not if but when actually it will be implemented, when it will be the document that is either a legal framework in some countries for AI governance and respecting human rights or is implemented through national legislative measures that are compatible. Will or in a... of the principles of the convention. What will its broader strategic legacy be for global AI governance? You know, the innovation ultimately depends on trust. So how the convention helps to build that. Just before giving the floor to answer to you, Paulus, I would like to ask all the panelists to think of one thing that they would suggest as the next step for working with this convention for one sentence because we are moving a little bit out of time. I really expected that perhaps the audience would like also to engage in more, discussions. So we'll see whether it's... it's, well, unfortunately, time is running, but maybe that would encourage also to have the exchange also after the session. So please think of one sentence, and now I
Paulius Pakutinskas
would like to ask Professor, please. Thank you. Maybe I will use for both questions just to do not repeat it. So what is the value? As we discussed and there was in the discussion, it's so different as a country, as a people, and we need to find something that is connecting us, and we need to do it globally. So it doesn't work locally. We have no possibility to have very, very different requirements and laws. There will be different laws, for sure, because as we discussed, there are different cultures, different religions, different legal systems, and so on. Even Switzerland was a good example. It's a comparatively small country, and it's so different. And when we talk about bigger countries with different histories, so you need to have something that is uniting. And this convention is a framework that can connect us and we can build other steps. So it's not the final step. So I think it's very important to just utilize it, to use it. And my recommendation, as you asked what could be other steps, I think it's good to exchange our good and bad practices just to help each other. And as it was in the beginning, to have this community, just to see where you are struggling and just to help, to see how to solve it. And when we'll have more examples, good and bad examples, I think it will be much easier for other countries to understand how to
Moderator
Thank you. Thank you very much indeed. And maybe I could ask to look to respond to this last question from the other direction with Mrs. Frost, please. What is one thing you recommend for the next year?
Gillian Frost
I would say I think ratification signatories is good, but I think behind it a bit, like my colleague said, is about sort of the advocacy and the outreach and the sharing of the ideas and having a shared common foundation and platform for which other countries and states can consider how they look at developing their AI strategies, how they consider AI. How they consider their legislation and the regulatory process, et cetera, and getting and building sort of broader support across various regional groupings. Thank you very much.
Moderator
And what the Council of Europe suggests. I
Matthias Kloth
think for us it's very straightforward. We would really like to see the Convention to enter into force in the course of next year. Five ratifications are needed amongst the three Council of Europe member states. So far we have one by the European Union. But again, this disguises a little bit the fact that in fact the EU is comprising 27 member states. So it's in fact a 28 -party ratification. But we really hope that this will happen so that we can actually start to create this community and have regular meetings by the Conference of Parties, the body that will be established to overlook the implementation of the Convention. And we are also getting a lot of interest from countries outside of Europe to also actually sign and ratify the Convention. But that's unless they have taken part in the negotiations, like our state. Team colleagues from Canada and Japan, they will have to wait until it enters into force. So we really... hopefully not get some kind of catch -up bottle effect where things are a little bit blocked. But my wish really would be for the next year that we achieve the five ratifications and then the convention enters into force to start a really new chapter in global AI governance with trust. Thank
Moderator
you. Thank you very much. And I also encourage all signatories of the convention present in the room to come back and please work for ratification of the convention in order to invite other members. other states, other countries to join it. Thank you. And Thomas, what is your last recommendation? Well,
Thomas Schneider
also, if I listen to the discussions here, again, people are still looking like, yeah, we need clear guidance. I just had a bilateral with Brad Smith from Microsoft. He said, yeah, we need to talk about governance. We need to set a principle. Well, we actually have the principles. Principles. Principles. an important element of the principles is this convention. We do have other principles. We do have a lot of other principles, but the convention is there. So I'm fully with Matthias. Unfortunately, my country without processes will probably be not ready this year. If everything goes well, it will be like 28 or so until we can ratify it because of all our direct democratic past. It is important that it is being ratified and enters into force so that it doesn't just remain a paper that people know it's there, but it's not yet real. So the sooner we can get the community together, then people will realize, aha, it is real. It is there. We can use it. We can implement it. And we do not need to hope for other principles and more principles and more principles. We have it. We can implement it. So I'm encouraging everyone to ratify as soon as you can.
Moderator
Thank you, Vice Minister Inagawa, what is your recommendation? What is one thing we have to do in the next year?
Takuo Imagawa
Thank you, I'd like to highlight two examples First, utilizing the existing global dialogue platform As you know, UN's global dialogue has started and we have ITU's AIFO group and we have the Hiroshima Process Friends group So I believe it would be valuable to share insights regarding policy initiatives related to this convention at our Friends group meetings. Second, collaborating with existing knowledge sharing mechanisms. For example, the OECD AI Policy Toolkit which was released last month provides practical support and guidance for policymakers implementing AI strategies. Policymakers can use its semantic search function to identify practical policy examples and guidelines. Such collaboration would keep deep understanding of the convention and facilitate concrete policy development. Thank you
Moderator
Thank you very much and indeed I would like to thank all the speakers I really wanted to have an interactive discussion with the audience but you know we are so limited in time so I just suggest that if the panelists would be available a little bit after we close the session so just please approach and let's have the conversation continue but for now I thank all the panelists I thank Vice Minister of Lithuania also for opening the session indeed we discussed that Vilnius Convention it's not only illegal framework it's what it enables it enables a trusted and practical framework that countries can indeed use to govern AI and the success ultimately depends not only on signatures but absolutely on ratification, on implementation, and growing community of countries choosing to build trustworthy AI governance together. So thank you very much. And indeed, well, let's work together. Let's keep in touch. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

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