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High Level Dialogue: Strengthening the Resilience of Telecommunication Submarine Cables

9 speakers
Summary

This discussion centred on the conclusion of the International Advisory Board (IAB) on Submarine Cable Resilience, a two-year initiative co-led by ITU and the International Cable Protection Committee (ICPC) and its report aimed at strengthening the resilience of global submarine cable infrastructure . Submarine cables carry approximately 99% of international internet traffic , and the panel noted that between 150 and 200 outages occur globally each year, with around 80% caused by human maritime activities , while the average repair time has increased from 20 to over 50 days due to an ageing and insufficient fleet of repair vessels .

Minister Bosun Tijani of Nigeria reflected on the 2024 West African cable cuts as a catalyst for the initiative , emphasising that governments must establish clear coordination protocols rather than leaving resilience entirely to cable owners . Prof Sandra Maximiano highlighted three key lessons from Portugal's experience: geography creates both opportunity and responsibility, resilience must be built by design, and cooperation must precede incidents . Singapore's Timothy Chin described practical policy measures, including streamlined permitting, maritime spatial planning, and a whole-of-government coordination approach that reduced cable repair application response times to three to five working days .

From a financing perspective, the World Bank's Sangbu Kim cited the 2022 Tonga volcanic eruption, where damage to a single cable caused 61 days of near-total digital isolation and affected 39% of the country's GDP, underscoring the need to treat submarine cable infrastructure as a public good . China Telecom's Athena Jun Xian noted that industry is already incorporating resilience into investment decisions through route diversification and multiple landing stations .

Panellists broadly agreed that the most urgent priority is moving from documentation to implementation , requiring investment in repair capacity and human expertise , greater regulatory harmonisation across jurisdictions , and clearer delineation of roles between governments, industry, and international organisations . The discussion concluded with a consensus that the IAB report provides a practical foundation - described by Minister Tijani as 'almost like a manifesto' - for governments and stakeholders worldwide to strengthen submarine cable resilience through coordinated, multistakeholder action .

Keypoints
  • Overall Purpose

  • The discussion centred on the conclusion of the International Advisory Board (IAB) on Submarine Cable Resilience, a two-year multi-stakeholder initiative co-led by ITU and ICPC. The session aimed to present the IAB's final 200-page report, celebrate its achievements, and - critically - shift focus from policy recommendations towards concrete implementation at national and international levels.
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  • Major Discussion Points

  • The critical importance of submarine cables and the scale of the resilience challenge: Speakers emphasised that submarine cables carry approximately 99% of international internet traffic, making them foundational to global economies, security, and societies. The fragility of this infrastructure was underscored by figures citing around 180 cable breaks in 2025 alone, with 80% of outages caused by human maritime activities. The case of Tonga was cited as a stark example, where damage to a single cable caused 61 days of near-total digital isolation and affected 39% of the country's GDP. The repair situation is worsening, with average repair times rising from 20 to over 50 days due to an ageing and insufficient fleet of only roughly 70 vessels. - The IAB's work and the transition from awareness to action ("from paper to practice"): The IAB, comprising 42 members and 175 working group experts, produced a comprehensive report covering deployment, repair practices, risk monitoring, and connecting the unconnected. Both co-chairs stressed that the advisory body's work must now be seen as a transition from awareness to action, with Prof Maximiano explicitly framing it as moving 'from paper to practice.' Minister Tijani described the report as a 'masterpiece' and a 'manifesto' that ministers can use to prepare better, noting that no comparable guidance existed when West African cables were cut in March 2024.
  • The roles of government, industry, and international organisations in building resilience: A recurring theme was that resilience cannot be achieved by any single stakeholder acting alone. Governments were urged to establish clear coordination protocols, streamline permitting, and create enabling environments for industry. Singapore's model of a single point of contact for cable deployment and a three-to-five working day response for repair applications was cited as best practice. Industry was called upon to continue innovating, build repair capacity, and integrate resilience into commercial models from the outset. International organisations such as ITU were recognised for their convening power, awareness-building, and advocacy roles. - Investment, redundancy, and geographic diversity as structural priorities: Multiple speakers highlighted the need for sustained investment in cable deployment, maintenance, and repair capabilities, as well as greater route diversity and redundancy. From an industry perspective, risk mitigation strategies include avoiding high-risk zones such as the Red Sea and Strait of Malacca, developing alternative terrestrial routes, and designing systems with multiple landing stations. The World Bank emphasised the importance of designing resilience requirements into financing models from the beginning, using de-risking mechanisms and public-private partnerships to attract private sector investment. Portugal's Atlantic CAM (Continent-Azores-Madeira) cable, with its ring topology, was cited as an example of resilience built by design. - Implementation as the defining next step, including legal frameworks and regulatory harmonisation: Speakers converged on the view that the immediate priority is implementation of the IAB's recommendations at both national and international levels. This requires clearer roles and responsibilities among governments, development finance institutions, and private operators. Questions were raised about whether existing legal frameworks - including a 19th-century telegraph cable protection treaty - are sufficient, or whether stronger international legal instruments are needed. Prof Maximiano called for regulatory harmonisation across jurisdictions to reduce fragmentation and complexity, and for investment in capacity building to ensure the right people are in place to manage incidents. ---
  • Overall Tone

  • The overall tone of the discussion was constructive, collaborative, and cautiously optimistic. Speakers consistently expressed pride in the IAB's achievements and gratitude for the multi-stakeholder effort that produced the final report. There was a shared sense of momentum and purpose, with the mood shifting progressively from celebration of what had been accomplished towards a forward-looking urgency around implementation. Minister Tijani's candid admission that he was "totally clueless" about what to do when cables were cut in West Africa added a note of honest vulnerability, grounding the discussion in real-world stakes. By the closing remarks, the tone had become firmly action-oriented, with speakers repeatedly reinforcing that the time for documentation had passed and that concrete steps - investment, coordination, regulatory clarity, and capacity building - must now follow.
Speakers Overview
MT
Mr. Tomas Lamanauskas
182 wpm · 8 min
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H.E. Dr. Bosun Tijani
166 wpm · 12 min
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Prof. Sandra Maximiano
118 wpm · 10 min
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Mr. John Wrottesley
147 wpm · 6 min
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Mr. Timothy Chin
180 wpm · 7 min
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Mr. Sangbu Kim
105 wpm · 8 min
MA
Ms. Athena Jun Xian
105 wpm · 5 min
MJ
Mr. John Mills
136 wpm · 4 min
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Audience
146 wpm · 1 min

Expanded Summary: International Advisory Board on Submarine Cable Resilience - Final Session

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Opening Remarks and Context

The session marked the formal conclusion of the International Advisory Board (IAB) on Submarine Cable Resilience, a two-year multi-stakeholder initiative co-led by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) and the International Cable Protection Committee (ICPC). Thomas Lamanauskas, Deputy Secretary General of ITU and Co-Executive Secretary of the IAB, opened proceedings by describing the occasion as a landmark moment, noting that the advisory board had completed its work and delivered to the expectations set two years prior . He explained that the initiative had originated from a conversation between himself and Minister Bosun Tijani following cable breaks off the coast of West Africa, with the central question being how governments and the private sector could come together to ensure that everyone knows what to do and that there is a clear set of recommendations to deliver on that goal .

Lamanauskas outlined the structure of the IAB's work: the body comprised 42 members - 40 plus two co-chairs - and engaged 175 experts across three working groups covering repair and deployment practices, risk monitoring and identification, and connecting the unconnected through submarine cables . The process had moved through a summit in Abuja, where the work framework was established, to a subsequent summit where recommendations were agreed, and finally to the present session, which concluded with the delivery of a 200-page report . Lamanauskas described the report as rich information that he believed would become a handbook for the area, and framed the day's discussion around the transition from documentation to action - borrowing a phrase from co-chair Professor Sandra Maximiano - "from paper to practice" .

John Wrottesley of the ICPC, who moderated the panel, brought a physical piece of CWI-3 submarine cable - a lightweight cable installed around 1999 or 2000 - as a prop to frame the discussion, offering participants a tangible illustration of the infrastructure under consideration and noting that this particular piece had spent approximately 25 years on the deep ocean floor .

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The Critical Importance of Submarine Cable Infrastructure

A foundational theme running through all contributions was the indispensable role of submarine cables in modern life. Lamanauskas reminded participants that submarine cables carry approximately 99% of international internet traffic, and that economies, societies, and financial infrastructure are deeply dependent on them . He noted that cables do break - with around 180 breaks recorded in the last year - and that when multiple cables fail simultaneously, the consequences are acutely felt .

Professor Sandra Maximiano reinforced this framing, stating that submarine cables are fundamental to digital economies and societies and that protecting them is not only a telecommunications issue but an economic, security, and development priority . She called for greater diversity and redundancy of international connectivity, sustained investment in cable deployment, maintenance and repair capabilities, and streamlined regulatory procedures to enable more efficient deployment and repair . She also noted that the resilience ecosystem should be broadened to include satellites, observing that this had been under discussion that very morning .

Mr John Mills of the US Department of State added that the United States relies on undersea cables for economic growth, national security, and its digital future, and that cables are how trillions of dollars in transactions are performed daily and how the internet empowers future innovators . For Singapore, the stakes were described as even more existential: Timothy Chin of IMDA explained that as a small, sea-locked island nation in a region of 700 million people, submarine cable connectivity is critical not just for prosperity and economic growth but frankly for survival .

Minister Bosun Tijani of Nigeria offered a philosophical framing, invoking the concept of anti-fragility to argue that as the world becomes more networked and dependent on intelligent systems, it is not sufficient merely to withstand stress - systems must be designed to learn from it and become stronger . He quoted an African proverb - "what an old man sees while sitting down, a young man cannot see even if he climbs to the top of a tree" - to underscore that more experienced actors bear a particular responsibility to prepare their communities for future challenges . He warned that the more the world connects and trusts intelligent systems, the greater the consequences of a major cable cut, and that humanity has the capability to manage this challenge if it chooses to do so .

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The Scale of the Resilience Challenge

The World Bank's Sangbu Kim provided some of the most striking data of the session, painting a sobering picture of the current state of global cable resilience. He noted that between 150 and 200 outages occur globally every year, with approximately 80% caused by human maritime activities . Yet the global repair capacity is critically inadequate: only around 70 repair vessels exist worldwide, of which only 20 to 25 are dedicated long-term repair vessels, and a significant proportion of the fleet is over 30 years old . As a result, average repair times have more than doubled, rising from around 20 days to over 50 days, meaning the situation is getting progressively worse .

Kim illustrated the catastrophic consequences of cable vulnerability for small economies through the example of Tonga, where a volcanic eruption in 2022 caused damage to a single cable that resulted in near-total digital isolation for 61 days, affecting USD 182 million in GDP - equivalent to 39% of the country's total GDP . This example powerfully demonstrated that submarine cable resilience is not merely a concern for large, well-connected nations but an existential development issue for smaller and more vulnerable economies.

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The IAB's Achievements and the Transition from Awareness to Action

All speakers were united in celebrating the IAB report as a landmark achievement. Lamanauskas described it as a rich document that he believed would become a handbook for the field, noting that it had effectively been co-written by more than 200 people - the 42 IAB members together with 175 working group experts - all of whom had to agree on its contents . Wrottesley confirmed that he had read every word of the report and strongly recommended that all stakeholders engage with it and look towards implementation .

Professor Maximiano described the IAB's work as representing a transition from awareness to action, noting that the body had identified challenges, exchanged experience from around the world, and developed practical recommendations, with the shared responsibility now being to transform those recommendations into operational preparedness . She emphasised that this means establishing clear responsibilities, improving coordination among all stakeholders, testing preparedness, and ensuring that when disruption occurs, countries have the capacity to respond, repair, and recover quickly .

Minister Tijani went furthest in his assessment, describing the report as a masterpiece and almost like a manifesto that ministers can use to prepare better . He noted candidly that when cables broke off West Africa on 14 March 2024, he was totally clueless about what he needed to do to support the response, and that there were not many documents that could help at the time . The IAB report, he argued, changes that fundamentally, providing a strong foundation for ministers to prepare and act . He also expressed his personal belief that the advisory board would become a model for resilience generally, noting that ITU had also produced a related report on when digital systems fail, which showed that many countries are not ready for such scenarios .

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National Policy Approaches: Singapore, Portugal, and Nigeria

The panel drew on the contrasting national experiences of Singapore, Portugal, and Nigeria to illustrate different approaches to submarine cable resilience policy.

Timothy Chin described Singapore's comprehensive and institutionalised approach. IMDA functions as both a regulator and an industry developer - a dual role Chin described as critical to the effectiveness of Singapore's approach . As a small, sea-locked island nation, Singapore published a digital connectivity blueprint in 2023 with an ambition to double its number of cables from 26 to 52 within ten years, though it currently stands at just over 30 . Singapore's regulatory approach is built on fit-for-purpose legislation across multiple acts - the Telecommunications Act, the Maritime and Port Authority Act, and the Merchant Shipping Act - which together provide sufficient provisions to address subsea cable issues, including requirements for cables to be buried to depths of four to twelve metres depending on seabed conditions . Maritime spatial planning and protected zones for cables have also been established to manage Singapore's status as a busy maritime hub . Crucially, IMDA acts as the single point of contact in the Singapore government for cable deployment applications, coordinating with all relevant agencies at the back end so that cable owners and operators need only engage with one body . For cable repairs, the Maritime Port Authority serves as the single point of contact and has committed to responding to repair applications within three to five working days, reduced from the previous standard of one week .

Professor Maximiano outlined three key lessons from Portugal's experience. First, geography creates both opportunity and responsibility: Portugal's Atlantic position makes it a gateway between Europe, Africa, and the Americas, with approximately 25% of submarine cables passing through its exclusive economic zone, positioning it as a significant connectivity hub . However, this also creates substantial responsibility for the infrastructure passing through Portuguese waters . Second, resilience must be built by design: the Atlantic Cam cable connecting mainland Portugal with Madeira and the Azores uses a ring topology that improves resilience while supporting territorial cohesion, and integrates smart cable technologies that can simultaneously strengthen connectivity, scientific cooperation, and early warning capabilities . Third, resilience depends on cooperation before incidents occur: Portugal has organised national exercises involving regulators, operators, the Navy, and other public authorities to test procedures and improve coordination, demonstrating that resilience is as much about governance and preparedness as it is about infrastructure .

Minister Tijani provided a frank account of Nigeria's experience. When cables broke off West Africa in March 2024, he described himself as totally clueless about what to do, with his regulator having only a partial understanding and defaulting to telling cable owners to find their own solutions . He noted that cable owners might even view a competitor's outage as an opportunity for commercial advantage rather than a moment for solidarity, and that the IAB report's recommendations help establish the moral obligation and societal demand for capacity-sharing in such circumstances . He argued that this reflects a broader failure of government to establish clear coordination protocols, and that resilience is not about new laws or fines but about what government can do to help coordination be faster and better . He cited a more recent positive example: when a cable company came to his ministry for clearance, he was able to secure a presidential directive aligning all agencies, resulting in the fastest cable landing in Nigeria's history . He called for every country to have a coordinating body - whether a regulator or another agency - with a set protocol enabling it to summon all relevant agencies to address a broken cable . He also proposed that West Africa could consider establishing a regional monitoring centre focused on predicting cable disruptions, given the shared nature of cables across the region .

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Industry Perspectives: Route Planning, Redundancy, and Commercial Models

Athena Jun Xian of China Telecom Europe offered an industry perspective on how resilience is already being incorporated into investment decisions for new submarine cable systems. She identified two key dimensions of risk mitigation. First, in route planning, developers proactively avoid high-risk zones including fishing grounds, anchorage areas, shipping lanes, seismic belts, and congested geopolitical choke points such as the Strait of Malacca and the Red Sea . New Eurasia cable systems have adopted alternative Middle Eastern routes passing through Saudi Arabia or Oman via terrestrial segments to bypass the Red Sea, substantially improving overall cable safety . Second, in geographic deployment, each submarine cable system is designed with multiple landing stations, each interconnecting with various independent cable systems, with cross-border circuits and customer services evenly distributed across diverse systems to mitigate single-point failures .

Jun Xian argued that by embracing diversified deployment and network redundancy during the investment and construction phase, operators can effectively mitigate disruptions to international services caused by single-point failure . She endorsed the IAB's work as reflecting the shared aspiration of all parties to build a safe, reliable, and inclusive global submarine cable network, and called for all governments and industrial enterprises worldwide to actively adopt and fully implement the IAB's guiding recommendations .

Kim complemented this industry perspective from a development finance angle, arguing that resilience requirements must be designed into financing models from the very beginning, with spur branching units and new landings incorporated at the design stage . He emphasised the importance of well-designed public-private partnerships and de-risking mechanisms - including guarantees and public grants - to enable private sector investment in resilience without undue commercial risk . He also argued that private operators must integrate resilience into their commercial models, and that if they cannot fully embrace safe and resilient measures from the beginning, stakeholders must keep pushing back .

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The Role of Government, Industry, and International Organisations

A central and recurring theme of the discussion was the appropriate division of roles and responsibilities among governments, industry, and international organisations. There was broad consensus that resilience cannot be achieved by any single stakeholder acting alone, and that governments, regulators, industry, international organisations, the technical community, and academia all have a role to play .

Chin articulated a clear framework for this division. Governments should focus on internal coordination before engaging with the private sector, integrating both regulatory and economic needs into coherent policies and frameworks . Industry should continue to innovate, bring new solutions and technologies, develop repair capabilities, and cooperate openly with governments . International organisations such as ITU play a distinct but equally important role in awareness building, advocacy, and convening power - bringing the right people into the right room to have the right conversations .

Mills offered a complementary perspective from the US government, arguing that industry probably knows the operational details of cable maintenance and continuity better than government, since it is their business to maintain continuity of operations . Government's role, he suggested, is to communicate its priorities clearly to industry, ensure legal accountability for cable breaks through transparent due process, and create a secure and trusted environment in which industry can be unleashed to innovate .

Tijani pushed back against any framing that treats cables as purely private property and responsibility, arguing forcefully that cable owners do not own the banks, are not responsible for GDP, and are not responsible for healthcare - the entire economy bears the cost of cable failures, not just the cable owners . He stated that there is no world where government will look away from cable resilience, whether in landing, repair, or redundancy, and that it will cost businesses more if government is totally not in the loop . He called for every nation to have a clear plan on the role of government, and for ITU to support governments in taking the right action and putting the right protocols in place . He drew a parallel with Nigeria's declaration of telecommunications infrastructure as critical national infrastructure, which he said resulted in over one billion dollars of private sector investment within six months .

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Implementation as the Defining Priority

The panel converged strongly on the view that the immediate and defining priority is moving from the IAB report to concrete implementation. Maximiano stated plainly that what is really important now is to move to implementation, requiring willingness and commitment from all stakeholders to move from rhetoric to something that is really in practice . She identified four key requirements: investment in deploying more cables and repair capacity as well as in capacity building to have the right people in the right places ; better governance and greater regulatory certainty ; more harmonised protocols and regulatory harmonisation across jurisdictions to reduce fragmentation and complexity ; and sustaining the multi-stakeholder model that the IAB had demonstrated .

Kim agreed that this is now implementation mode rather than just planning or documentation mode, and described the World Bank's commitment to investing more in resilient submarine cable approaches, including in Africa and West Africa through the West African Integration Programme, and to attracting more private sector participation . He emphasised the importance of clarifying roles and responsibilities among governments, development finance institutions, and private operators, with governments adopting clear national and regional strategies incorporating geographic diversity, multiple landing points, and open access policies .

Jun Xian argued that only through concrete implementation and deep pragmatic cooperation between government and industry can barriers such as lengthy approval timelines, insufficient geographic diversity, and imbalanced regional resources be resolved, and the resilience of the global submarine cable network be systematically strengthened .

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Legal Frameworks and Unresolved Questions

An audience participant introduced a dimension that had not been raised by the panellists: whether the IAB report suggests an international constructive legal approach, and whether ITU might seek an advisory opinion from international legal bodies analogous to the role scientific bodies have played in prompting international legal opinions on climate change . Lamanauskas responded cautiously, noting that the current focus was on implementation of existing frameworks and sharing best practices, and that the IAB report's direct focus was on implementation and best practice rather than legal reform . He acknowledged that the UN Department of the Law of the Sea had been an observer to the advisory body, and that results had been presented to the International Seabed Authority, the IMO, and other bodies for their reflection . He also noted the existence of a 19th-century treaty on telegraph cable protection that some countries apply, though it is not universally accepted .

This exchange highlighted a potential gap in the IAB's work: while the report provides a comprehensive framework for best practice and implementation, the adequacy of existing international legal instruments for addressing modern submarine cable vulnerabilities remains an open question. The question of whether stronger binding international legal frameworks are ultimately needed - and whether ITU or other bodies should pursue such mechanisms - was left unresolved, representing an important thread for future deliberation.

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Closing Remarks and Forward Outlook

In his closing remarks, Lamanauskas reflected on the physical reality of submarine cables - thin, long, and vulnerable despite the enormous dependence placed upon them by modern economies and societies - as a reminder of why protection matters . He noted the extraordinary collaborative achievement represented by the report, which had effectively been co-authored by more than 200 people who all had to agree on its contents, and called on all stakeholders to now implement the rich expertise it contains .

He observed that the session had come full circle: the initiative had begun at the WSIS Forum two years earlier with Minister Tijani, Professor Maximiano, John Wrottesley, and himself on a panel, and it was fitting to close that chapter with a concrete deliverable while setting the stage for the critically important implementation phase . The overall tone of the closing was firmly action-oriented, with the consensus of the room captured in the phrase that had recurred throughout the day: the time for documentation has passed, and the work of moving from paper to practice must now begin in earnest.

Mr. Tomas Lamanauskas
Hello everyone so I think I really love how we are so on time in the last day of the and really great to see such a good presence of the colleagues here again today so I think it's really a landmark year for us and I think we'll be hearing about that much more but maybe I already can preview that this is the day when the International Advisory Board of the Assembly of Cable Resilience completed very successfully its work and really delivered to the expectations that we set two years ago so I think this is really great news and of course we'll hear from the co -chairs in a minute so I'm Thomas Lamanowskas, I'm Deputy Secretary General of ITU and as well as Co -Executive Secretary of the International Advisory Board of the Assembly of Cable Resilience and For now, I'll just introduce John Worsley. He's the general manager of ICPC, International Cable Protection Committee, so the partner of ITU in this work. And we will be co -moderating this. I'll do the easy part, just introduce our co -chairs in a minute for the speaking, and John will take us through the agenda and introduce other speakers as well. So I think, you know, just to, of course, as a reminder for the first, of course, submarine cables are a critical infrastructure of our lives, you know, so indeed it carries around 99 % of the submarine cables or the international internet traffic. And, of course, increasingly we're really dependent on that infrastructure. We're dependent on our economy, society, so our financial infrastructure, you know, and when they break, we feel it. And regretfully, even though they're not that, you know, they're not that many of them, you know, they do break. Quite a bit, I think, in the last year, 2025, which had a... around 180 breaks, you know, of the summer cables. And indeed, sometimes, especially when the multiple cables are broken at the same time, this really felt. And then, of course, when we started, two years ago now, I think this whole idea started that something needs to be done about that and something needs to be done in a collective way by the governments and industry. And I probably can share that. You know, I started the conversation by Minister Tijani and myself in the office and saying, what can we do about that? And that was after cables in West Africa or off the coast of West Africa were broken. I'm pretty sure Minister Tijani will talk about that. And I think the idea was how can governments and the private sector really come together to really make sure that everyone knows what to do. There's a kind of clear recommendations and clear, let's say, recipe to deliver that. And I think we delivered to that. So we started International Advisory Board of Summer Cable Resilience in November. November 2024 I'm kind of now confusing not to confuse the years then we had a very successful Abuja summit where we set up the work framework, how we'll do that and set up working groups the original international advisory body has 42 members, so 40 members plus two co -chairs, so I'll introduce in a minute, and then of course in the, and then working groups have involved 175 experts all around the world to really work on that so those working groups looked at the repair and the deployment and repair practices they looked at the monitoring, risk monitoring and identification as well as looked at how to connect the unconnected, how to bring the last mile to the people who still don't have it in terms of the submarine cables so those three working groups so then we had the portal summit where we successfully agreed on recommendations I'm pretty sure our co -chair, Professor Maxine is going to be here in a minute Sandra will also talk about that. And finally, today, we'll finish that with a 200 -page report, you know. But I think I skimmed it. I can't say I read every word. But I can tell you already, I feel it's a really rich information, and I believe it will become a handbook for this area. And now, of course, I think today we talked a lot about from, and I know some of our speakers will talk about how to move forward to implementation. But I'll steal one of your phrases, Sandra. Sorry for that. You know, from paper to practice, you know. So I think that is a stage to move. But so with that and having outlined where we are, I think let me then really bring in our co -chairs to start with, to really speak about what we've done and expectations there as opening trajectory remarks, and then we'll move to a moderated session. So we'll start with Minister Bosun Tijani. Thank you, Minister Bosun Tijani, His Excellency, to open, to bring his introductory remarks. Over.
H.E. Dr. Bosun Tijani
Thank you so much, DSG, distinguished panelists, guests. It's, of course, a pleasure to be back. discussing what I now consider to be my favorite topic. And the reason for that is I think we're making significant progress in connecting our world. And I think in that process, because of our ability to also now digitize most of our realities and also analyze the data sets that we're seeing, we're seeing intelligent systems now becoming critical in our quest, of course, to build a better world, which I think is exciting. But if you allow me to quote a popular, and I'm going to twist the use of this proverb from Africa, which says, what an old man sees while sitting down, a young man cannot see even if he climbs to the top of a tree. It's not direct interpretation, but I think what is expected typically of us in Africa is that if you're older, that you take responsibility, that you take responsibility for what you're doing. for the future of your community, that you actually ensure that you're not just thinking about today, but you're also projecting into the future. And I know not everyone believes in the concept of anti -fragility. I think when it came out, many people had different things to say about it. But we have to, if we're living in a world that is now networked and connected, we have to ensure that our world doesn't give in at the nearest stress that comes to it. Our fragile systems will typically give up to stress. We have to ensure that our world is anti -fragile. In fact, when stress comes, I think we have to now learn from it. Because the disaster that we'll see if there's a major cut to subsea cable, I think most of us have seen it, but the more we get our world connected, the more we trust intelligent systems, the more we're going to depend on connectivity. And the more we have to. Ensure that the systems that power connectivity, that we have a clear way of. keeping them up most of the time. I think we have the capabilities of doing so. It's about how we manage redundancy when they happen. They will happen. There's nothing we can do about them happening. I think the only thing we can do however is to project into the future. And this is where I like to see technology. If we're all participating in mainstreaming technologies, digital technologies, I think it's our responsibility as well to ensure we're preparing for days that these technologies may ask us questions as to whether we're prepared for breakdown. That's what I like about the work that we've done in this advisory board. I personally think it's going to become a model for resilience generally. And I like the fact that without this board, I think IT is also now expanding. They did a work, a report with Science Pool on when digital fails, which is speaking to when digital systems generally in a society fails. And you'll find that many countries are not ready. for that. So for me, this is something that will become a model. I do hope that as we conclude the work of the advisory board itself, the reports, if you've not seen it, I think you should find a copy. I think it's a stellar piece of document that will guide the way we think about connectivity in Nigeria. I hope I can return to my country, of course, to kick off a movement where we have a better protocol for how we manage stress to subsea assets. That's what I'm hoping we can do more collectively. So I think on this note, it's just to appreciate everyone that has been part of that work. It's a fantastic piece of work that in five, ten years' time, we will look back and I think we'll be proud of ourselves for what we've contributed. Thank you so much.
Mr. Tomas Lamanauskas
Thank you very much. Thank you very much
Prof. Sandra Maximiano
for your excellency. So I think now another co -chair, Professor Maximiano. Thank you. So excellency, Deputy Secretary General ITU and Ex -Team Minister, Co -Chair, Basanti Jani, Distinction. Distinguished colleagues, over the past two years, the International Advisory Board and Sabanin Cable Resilience have taken an extraordinary journey. What began as a conversation has become a truly global multi -stakeholder effort to strengthen the resilience of one of the world's most critical digital infrastructures. The work of the International Advisory Board should be seen as a transition from awareness to action, exactly like it was mentioned here before, from paper to practice. We have identified the challenge, exchanged experience from around the world, and developed practical recommendations. Our shared responsibility now is to transform those recommendations into operational preparedness. Thank you. This means establishing clear responsibilities, improving coordination among all stakeholders. testing preparedness and ensuring that when disrupt occurs, countries have the capacity to respond, repair and recover quickly. As infrastructure carrying more than 99 % of international data traffic, submarine cables are fundamental to our digital economies and societies. Protecting them is therefore not only a telecommunication issue, it is an economic, security and development priority. Strengthening resilience requires action on several fronts. We need greater diversity and redundancy of international connectivity. We need sustained investment in cable deployment, maintenance and repair capabilities. We need to streamline regulatory and administrative procedures so that cables can be deployed and repaired more efficiently. And we need to promote best practices for risk prevention, monitoring, early incident detection and coordinated response. But perhaps the most important lesson from the advisory body is that resilience cannot be achieved by a single stakeholder acting alone. Governments, regulators, industry, international organizations, the technical community and academia all have a role to play. For Portugal, resilience also means inclusion. Every country, regardless of its geography or level of development, should be able to benefit from resilient, reliable and affordable international connectivity. Building resilience is therefore also about strengthening social cohesion, reducing the digital divide and ensuring that no region is left behind. The advisory body has demonstrated what can be achieved. When we work together. The next challenge is implementation. If we maintain the spirit of cooperation and international and at the national level, because I think the message that we should take is that this international work and recommendations should be taken home from each of us, I'm totally confident that the recommendations developed over the past year will translate into stronger networks, stronger partnerships, and ultimately a more resilient and inclusive digital future. Thank you.
Mr. Tomas Lamanauskas
hank you very much.
Mr. John Wrottesley
Thank you, Thomas, and thank you to the Minister and to Sandra for your opening remarks. So to begin with, I brought a small prop with me. So I have a piece of CWI -3, a lightweight piece of cable, which was installed around 1999. Or 2000. So this piece of cable has sat in the deep ocean for around 25 to 30 years. So I thought it's quite a nice way to frame the discussion. From the perspective of the ICPC, I think it's been a fantastic collaboration to produce this report and work with all of the stakeholders involved. Unlike Thomas, I have read every word of the report several times and a lot of the ITU team as well. And I really recommend that everybody does take note of it and look towards implementation as well. So for the sequence of the panel this afternoon, I will come to each of our panellists in turn with a short introduction and ask one question each. Then we'll have some time for questions from the audience and then we can move forward on that basis. So to begin with, I'd like to introduce Mr Timothy Chin, who is the Assistant Chief Executive of IMDA in Singapore. So to begin with, from the perspective of Singapore. It's one of the world's leading digital hubs. So how does Singapore approach submarine cable resilience from a policy and operational perspective?
Mr. Timothy Chin
Thank you John. I hope everyone can hear me. And congratulations to the co -chairs of the IAB, fellow members and ITU and ICPC on the successful conclusion of the IAB and the report. There's been a lot of congratulations today, but I think the real work starts after this, now that the report, the publication is out and has been finalized, and we really move into implementation. From Singapore's perspective, to address John's question, our starting point really is the situation that we find ourselves in. For those of you who might not be familiar with Singapore, we are a small island in Southeast Asia in a region of 700 million people, and we are fundamentally sea -locked. We are a small island in Southeast Asia in a region of 700 million people, and we are fundamentally sea -locked. We are a small island in Southeast Asia in a region of 700 million people, and we are fundamentally sea -locked. We are fundamentally sea -locked. are not particularly large, and the waters around us really sort of are part of our neighbours' waters as well, which is why submarine cable connectivity and resilience is critical, not just for our prosperity, economic growth and development, but frankly for survival as well if we want to continue on the path that we have taken over the last 60 over years. In fact, we put out a digital connectivity blueprint in 2023 that outlined an ambition to double the number of cables that we had in 2023. This was 26 cables. We wanted to double that in 10 years. Currently, we are just over 30 cables, so we still have some work to do to hit the targets that we have set for ourselves. So that would be our starting point. My second point, really, is the importance of our partnership with industry. My organisation, the Infocom Media Development Authority of Singapore, is a regulator. but we are also an industry developer and we think it's critical that in what we do and to be effective in what we do, we don't just take a regulatory stance but we also try and incorporate that industry lens as well and find a good landing for both sides and we think this is the way that we need to move forward. How does this manifest in how we treat submarine cable and submarine cable resilience? I would say two smaller points here. First, we try and ensure that we have laws which are fit for purpose. We don't take an overarching approach where we have a single law on submarine cables, submarine cable resilience, but we do ensure that individual laws that touch on these areas, the Telecommunications Act in Singapore, our Maritime and Port Authority Act, even our Merchant Shipping Act, all contain sufficient provisions that address the issues of subsea cables and then we translate these into requirements such as requiring that cables within our waters are buried to sufficient depth to protect them. From the anchors of very large crew carriers. as well, so that translates to about 4 to 12 meters depending on where we are on the seabed exactly. Another policy that we've enacted based on our laws is really maritime spatial planning and ensuring that protected zones for cables because Singapore is a very busy maritime hub as well. Maybe just a third example, and this touches on maybe the second sub -point I mentioned earlier, which is ensuring that we take a whole -of -government approach to subsea cable resilience, protection, deployment, and so on. My agency acts as the single point of contact in the Singapore government for applications for cable deployment. We ensure at the back end we are coordinated and we work with all the other agencies that are involved in this, whether it's environment, whether it's maritime, and so on and so forth. So the applicants, cable owners and operators, only really need to reach out to one sort of body, and we help facilitate those applications as well. Same way we adopt a very streamlined permitting process for cable repairs, which we think is a very important part of the application process. It's essential. In that instance, the maritime... Port Authority is our single point of contact, and they have committed to responding to cable applications, sorry, repair, cable repair applications within three to five working days. We brought this down from a few years ago where it was one week and we tried to really halve that and as much as possible we try and go for the three working days, if not up to five working days. So a short, quick response to John's question. Thank you.
Mr. John Wrottesley
Thank you, Timothy. So next I will come to Mr. Sang -bu Kim, who's the Vice President for Digital and AI at the World Bank. So Sang -bu, in the context of digital development and economic growth, how does the World Bank view submarine cable resilience?
Mr. Sangbu Kim
Yes, the World Bank has been participating in this group for the last couple of years, and then we, especially we, we were leading, the Working Group 3, fostering connectivity and geographic diversity. So let me start at some view and current situation. for the cable, submarine cable resilience. We found that the advancing resilience and inclusion submarine cable infrastructure in small economy is really crucial and critical for everybody. The one founding is that, you know, for example, in Tonga, there was a volcanic eruption in 2022. Damage to a single cable resulted in near total digital isolation for 61 days. That has affected $182 million GDP, which was 39 % of total GDP of Tonga. So one single, you know, accident or incident impact have a lot of impact on this. But in our reality, in Singapore, resilient measures for this is that we are seeing between 150 to 200 outages every year across the globe. Almost 200 accidents are happening in our countries. But among them, 80 % caused by human maritime activities. But our reality to tackle this issue and to fix this accident, we have only roughly 70 vessels. And only 20 or 25 are dedicated long -term repairing. And we see there's some significant share of that 70 fleets are very old, 30 years old, more than 30 years old. So as a result, average repair time has been increasing. We used to fix this around 20 days, but nowadays it takes more than 50 days. So the situation is getting worse and worse. So this is how we see the situation. And then from the World Bank perspective, some concrete measures and actions are really critical. First, identify market failure and gaps is a starting point, along with many international partners and counterparts. But second, bringing stakeholders to the table early at the design stage to unlock resilient and inclusive project scope and design through. sport branching units and new landings so that means whenever we design a new financing model we try very hard to design the resilient requirement from the beginning so without those pre -measured it is really hard to just deploy the new infrastructure in these cases and careful distribution of risk and alignment for well -designed public -private partnership will be really crucial part also we are really thinking to bringing some de -risking mechanism along with guaranteed platform or some public grants so that some private sector can freely or more comfortably invest in this space without any further concern about this so those type of things are we are currently driving these days so I think some more attention and some more public investment for this resilience and especially some measure for fixed, some extended facilities and cables will be a really important part. And then we have to see this as a public goods and public infrastructure, not only one single country and single individual or single private sector cannot fix it. That's why we are here. And so maybe some more attention to invest more, some measurement to quickly fix the affected facilities and cable should be followed. Thank you,
Mr. John Wrottesley
Sang -Doo. So I'd like to introduce next Mr. John Mills, who's the Deputy Assistant Secretary at the U .S. Department of State in the USA. So, John, we've heard from the first two panellists about actionable steps to look towards submarine cable resilience. But why has it become an increasingly important priority in international digital policy discussions?
Mr. John Mills
Well, thank you, John, and good afternoon to all. And thank you for inviting me to participate in this important panel discussion on the resilience of undersea cables. And thank you to Deputy Secretary General Thomas Laminowskis. And to our friends from Nigeria and Portugal, Minister Bosun Tajani and Professor Sandra Maximiano, for all this great work that has been accomplished by this advisory body. The United States is a champion in the undersea cable industry. Like every other country in this room, the United States relies on undersea cables for economic growth and security, and our national security and our digital future. The world is now increasingly aware that undersea cables are how citizens connect and how trillions of dollars in transactions are performed daily and how the Internet empowers our future innovators and how governments collaborate and communicate. Cables are indeed critical infrastructure that need our attention and care, and we are here during AI for Good Week. This is how all the ones and zeros of AI travel. For those of us who are government officials, we have a responsibility to ensure that our citizens, businesses, and governments have the necessary global connectivity that provides economic opportunities and underpins national security and provides a foundational information network for our next generation of innovators. For those in industry, and this really is in many ways an industry -led domain and activity, our efforts are focused on enabling industry action, investment, and expansion that help deliver on the global policy of international communication. I hope the outcomes reached by the international administration and the advisory body will get... you confidence that we are standing here together to support your undersea cables and that we are taking actions to build resilience. Thanks.
Mr. John Wrottesley
Thank you, John. So next, I'd like to introduce Ms. Jun Xian, who's the Managing Director of China Telecom in Europe and also the Executive General Manager of China Telecom Global. So we've heard from a governance and policy and funding perspective so far, but from an industry perspective, as demand for international connectivity continues to grow, how is resilience influencing investment decisions in new submarine cable systems, for example, route selection, geographic diversity and network redundancy?
Ms. Athena Jun Xian
Thank you. I'm from China Telecom Europe. I've been working for global network planning operation and also the maintenance. So also as MC chairman of several existing or ongoing submarine cables, I'm more than happy to have this opportunity to share some practice or some opinion from carrier side. And we all know that in recent years, emerging technologies such as AI or content technology have continued to emerge, also driving a surge demand for cross-border data flows. Countries across the globe have grown increasingly reliant on stable, high speed and also secure international data. Internet connectivity as the primary carrier of cross-border data transmission, submarine cables have grown. drawing growing global attention to efforts aimed at boosting their resilience. When we're making investment decisions for new submarine cable systems, I think all stakeholders adopt targeted risk mitigation strategies in two key dimensions. First, I think we all know that in route planning, developers proactively right now still clear of high-risk loans, including fishing grounds and anchorage areas, shipping lanes, and also seismic belts, as well as congested choke points such as the Strait of Malacca and also the Red Sea, we all know, for a lot of geopolitical reasons. Right now, some new Eurasia cable systems have now been developed, adopted alternative Middle Eastern routes passing through Saudi Arabia or Amman, and that kind of terrestrial routes to bypass the Red Sea. substantially improving overall cable safety. And the second point is in terms of geographic deployment. Each submarine cable system right now is designed with multiple landing stations, and every landing station interconnects with various independent cable systems as well. Cross-border circuits and customer services are evenly distributed across diverse cable systems. And landing station in grass points is very important too. With dedicated backup resources, s reserved for service restoration in the event of cable outage. By embracing diversified deployment and network redundancy during the investment and construction phase of submarine cable systems, operators can effectively mitigate disruptions to international services caused by single -point failure. I think that's the main two points.
Mr. John Wrottesley
Thank you. Thank you very much. And I think it's encouraging that it's not something that needs to be solved today, but there's resilience built in through network planning and system design already. So thank you for that. So without needing further introduction, I'd like to come to His Excellency Minister Bosun Tijani next. So Nigeria has played a leading role in advancing the submarine cable resilience agenda through the advisory body. So my question is, what do you see as the next step in the development of submarine cable systems? What are the most important achievements of this initiative?
H.E. Dr. Bosun Tijani
Thank you so much John I think the report is the most important and it's because of the quality of the report so when we have the cable cut in West Africa I think it was 14th of March 2024 affected a few cables including May 1 and I see the CEO of May 1 in the room so you can also speak to it as a minister I was totally clueless on what I needed to do to be able to support this and I hear many people talk about these cables as being private property so it's the responsibility of the cable owners and I think even in our meeting earlier one of the cable owners was talking about how they feel the impact the most but I think that's not true because it's the entire economy the owners of the cable don't own the banks they're not responsible for GDP they're not responsible for healthcare even if they're being fined or insurance is paying they won't be able to cover the losses that will happen to the systems that are running critical services in our communities. So for me, I think just looking for what government should be doing to increase, and I think that's what people miss when we talk about resilience. It's not about new laws or fines. It's really about what can we do to help coordination to be faster and better. And I think every country should do that. You know, government should support the process for redundancy management. I didn't know how redundancy was being managed. You know, of course, I spoke to my regulator. I think they had an idea, but I don't think they also had full context in that sense because this was left. The best they would do is tell the owners of the cables to find a solution to it. But government could help, right? Setting out clear protocols could demonstrate how cable owners can collaborate to make this faster. So it's not about whether the CEO of the cable that is not being caught is seeing this as an opportunity for supremacy. but knowing that they have the moral obligation and the demand from society to be able to allow capacity to be switched onto their cable. And I think that's what is coming out of here. The recommendations in this report gives a strong foundation for ministers to be able to prepare better. So I can go back home, and I've said that in the earlier meeting, I can go back home working with our regulator, ensuring that we're strengthening the desk that is responsible for subsea cable, perhaps even hosting a workshop where we discuss this report to say, what more can we do to enhance resilience, perhaps training more people. We need immediate capacities to be able to manage this. I don't know how many people we have who can step in and manage this. Perhaps because in the West African region, we share a lot of our cables, regional redundancy protocol. There's no reason why we can't even think about setting up a monitoring center for the region as well that actually is focused on being able to predict when these things will happen. And I like what I heard from Singapore as well, which currently we don't have the ability of, you said the organization is responsible for coordinating the maritime and everyone. Every country must have that. If it's going to be a regulator, it should have a set protocol where all these other agencies are aware that they can be summoned by the regulator to come have a conversation on how to fix a broken cable. I think that sort of protocol should be set up. And I think the document has done a fantastic job detailing this. It's almost like a manifesto in a way that I can then take back and say as a minister, I can't excuse myself that I don't know anymore. And I'm being honest with you. When it happened, there were. There weren't that many documents that could help. But now I think these advisory bodies produce a masterpiece that I believe every country should take and create something out of.
Mr. John Wrottesley
And I think collaboration is a word that we'll hear a lot today. So thank you for that. So I'll come next to the fellow co -chair, Professor Sandra Maximiano from Anacom. So looking from the report and its achievements to the impact nationally, Portugal obviously serves as a key gateway between Europe, Africa and the Americas. So what lessons can be drawn from Portugal's experience in promoting resilient international connectivity?
Prof. Sandra Maximiano
Thanks a lot for the question. So Portugal experience suggests three main lessons, I would say. First, geography is an opportunity, but of course also creates tons of responsibility. Second, resilience must be built by design. And third, resilience depends on cooperation before incidents occur. So let me first talk about geography. Portugal's Atlantic position, natural position of Portugal, has a gateway between Europe, Africa, and the Americas. So Portugal occupies a very significant position, not only as an Atlantic gateway, but as a global connection hub with a direct connection via submarine cables to several continents. Around also 25 % of submarine cables pass through our exclusive economic zone, position the country as a technological hub capable of attracting data centers, digital platforms, and international services. But as I said before, also gives us much more responsibility in taking care of all these. This is a very important treaty. infrastructure that passes in our exclusive economic zone. So, but being this a landing point is not enough. Resilience depends on the entire connectivity ecosystem. And this is one of also the key conclusions of FANACOM's forthcoming study on Portugal's submarine cable ecosystem. So, without anticipating many details of this study, the study reinforces a central point for this discussion. Submarine cables should be addressed not only as individual systems, but as part of a wider resilience ecosystem involving landing points, terrestrial backhaul, route diversity, repair capacity, security arrangements, and coordination between public authorities and operators. And maybe even, we should even take it further, and this morning we are discussing even including in this ecosystem satellites as well. So, We should always broaden our perspective about this resilience. And resilience, the second point, must be built by design. And a good example, also from Portugal, is the Atlantic Cam. So it's our submarine cable that connects the main island, Portugal, with Madeira and Azores. And there's a ring typology, which improves resilience while also supporting the territorial cohesion. And integrate some smart cable technologies that also shows that this infrastructure can simultaneously strengthen connectivity, scientific cooperation, and some early warning capabilities. And at last, one key lesson that I also want to mention was the route diversity and redundancy. It's a very important point in our recommendations. projects such as the Transatlantic Alalink, connections through SINCH, reduce dependence on traditional northern European routes and create some alternative path between Europe, Latin America and Africa it's an example of this redundancy and the third point that I also mentioned was about cooperation and cooperation is extremely important, not only this cooperation that we have been seeing at international level but at national level and Portugal has organized national exercises involving regulators, operators the Navy and other public authorities to test procedures and improve coordination, so these exercises is a very good example how we can actually move from paper to practice as we have been talking a lot about this today because this demonstrates this exercise demonstrates that resilience is not only about infrastructure, it is a lot about governance and preparedness and trusted cooperation Thanks.
Mr. John Wrottesley
Thank you. So I'm going to come to the audience next. So we will have maybe time for one or two questions and then I'll come back for a final question to the panellists. So we have some participating online and then people in the room. So please, please go ahead and raise your hand if you have a question.
Audience
Thank you very much. I'd like to let the interviewer of this year. Thomas, if you call on June, we discuss in New York. Right. So I have one question as well as one suggestion. Does this report which you have come out with suggest kind of international constructive legal approach? Because the kind of discussions which we had in New York last month. So is this part of this report? There is one number. And as you may be doing, because some of the problems which we discussed last month. had to do with some of the hotspot areas. And I was just wondering, like the IPCC, gave a very strong recommendation, which resulted in federalist opinion by the ICG and ICLOS on climate change. Is this something what ITU is also planning to seek? Some sort of federalist opinion, if you call. That is what the discussion revolved around. Thank you so much.
Mr. John Wrottesley
Thank you. So maybe a question for Thomas, and then if the panelists have reflections as well.
Mr. Tomas Lamanauskas
Thank you very much, John, and thank you very much, Judge Shaw, for this question. Great to collaborate. I think for now, of course, my most focus was on implementation of existing frameworks, because I think the feeling was there's a lot of existing there that member states don't necessarily fully know, and different other stakeholders are also not fully aware, so we really need to make sure that those best practices are fully shared. Then, of course, the question is to our member states and legal professionals like yourselves, you know, what's next, you know. So what we have, though, we have UN Department of the Law of the Sea as an observer to this international advisory body, you know. So we also have been presenting these results for the CBET Authority, for example, MO and other bodies. And then for them to reflect, ultimately for the member states to reflect if there is a question whether they need to be, whether legal frameworks need to be strengthened or revised. As you know, we have a treaty on telegraph cable protection from 19th century that, again, in the recent briefs was also mentioned. And I think some countries, they do apply that treaty, you know, so even though it's not such a universally accepted. But this was. But also to conclude on that, this wasn't the direct focus of this report. This report is mostly about implementation and best practice in this regard. But, of course, I think the field is much broader and other, hopefully, LST callers will pick up those aspects as well.
Mr. John Wrottesley
okay do we have any more questions now otherwise we'll uh we'll come back to the to the panel and i can't see if we have any questions online okay so we have about 15 minutes left so i will come for a general question to uh each of our panelists so i'll come uh down the line in this direction so each in turn so the advisory body has developed recommendations which cover a wide variety of topics from uh deployment repair risk mitigation diversity uh all sorts of things so looking ahead um what do you consider to be the most the single most uh important priority for governments um and international organizations over the next five years to strengthen cable resilience and i'll come to Timothy first.
Mr. Timothy Chin
I was going to say you might want to start from the other side this time around, but I'm happy to take this one first. Actually, Professor Maximiliano has excellent soundbites. I think Thomas said this earlier in the IAB meeting. I'm going to borrow something that she mentioned earlier in her opening remarks about how all the groups I think you mentioned, and I would include industry in that as well, all of us have a role to play in implementing this. I'm going to set aside the specific recommendations in the IAB report. I think they're critical. They're important. They do need to be implemented. But if we sort of take a little step back and think about what each of the main players actually can and ought to do best, and I think that is that critical sort of immediate first step in terms of implementation, identifying what governments, industry, and international organizations like the ITU, and I would include, I suppose, ICP, you have the luxury of either industry. or international organization to pick from. Maybe you should do all of it. From our perspective, I think, from Singapore's perspective, governments, and this is something that Minister Tijani mentioned earlier as well, that coordination within the government. At the end of the day, when you are working with partners who are outside government, whether they're citizens, whether they are businesses, your ecosystem and all of that, they're not going to see one regulator, one ministry, another ministry, a different regulator in another area. We're all part of the same government at the end of the day. So I think it's incumbent on governments to first and foremost, try and be as coordinated as we can amongst ourselves and bring that coordination, how we interact with the public sector, with the private sector as well. And that involves integrating both your regulatory needs as well as your business economic needs into your policies, into your regulatory framework as well. From industry, I think the most important thing is for industry to do what it is best. That continue to innovate, bring new solutions, bring new technologies to bear that can enhance areas like submarine cable resilience, for example. But also I think ensure that from an industry lens, develop capability in your partners as well. For example, in terms of repair capacity, repair capability, technology in repair vessels, and so on and so forth. And of course, industry does also need to be open in terms of cooperating and partnering with governments as well in terms of subsea cable residents. And finally, we come to the role of international organizations, slightly different but no less important here. And I think the International Advisory Board and its report actually demonstrate some of the key roles that international organizations can play. Number one, awareness building around issues. Tied very closely to that, advocacy for these issues. And third, and perhaps all equally important, bringing to bear their convening power. Getting the right people into the right room to have the right conversations about some of this issues.
Ms. Athena Jun Xian
Thank you IAB's hard work bring all expertise from government industrial stakeholders and also international organizations I think centered on enhancing submarine cable resilience it's already developed a full set of measures and policy guidelines which fully reflect the shared aspiration of all parties to jointly build a safe, reliable and inclusive global submarine cable network. Looking ahead to the next five years, I think from carriers' point of view or the industry point of view, our top priority, it must be to encourage all government and industrial enterprises worldwide to actively adopt and fully implement all the guiding recommendations put forward. by IAB. Only through concrete implementation and deep and pragmatic cooperation between government and industry can we break down geographical, industrial and regulatory barriers, fundamentally resolve pain points such as lengthy approval timelines, insufficient geographic diversity and imbalanced regional resources, and systematically strengthen the resilience of the global submarine cable network. I think this is the most priority. Thank you.
Mr. John Wrottesley
hank you. And Sandra?
Prof. Sandra Maximiano
So, as I said actually earlier today, I think what is really, really important now is to move to implementation. And for that we need willingness and commitment from all of us to harsh this goal. And we should move from just the rhetoric to something that is really, really in practice. So, we need investment. For that we really need investment. And we need investment. And not only more. deploying more cables in repair capacity, but capacity building also in terms of having the right people in the right places, and this was mentioned here, and it's extremely important. We need better governance and greater regulatory certainty. I think this is extremely necessary. And specifically about regulatory certainty, when we have effective regulation, it doesn't mean that we are creating additional obligations. It means that we are providing clarity, predictability, and cooperation through the entire lifecycle of submarine cable systems, and this is extremely, extremely important. So also we need more harmonized protocols, regulatory harmonization across jurisdictions. So that makes it more simple. And less fragmented. and complex. So I would say as a regulator, this is one of the key points for us. And as I said earlier and again today, I think we should invest in keeping this multi -stakeholder model alive and strengthen it and to have a very successful implementation of the recommendations.
Mr. John Mills
And from your original question, I focused on what can government do better. Like Timothy and Sandra, I think part of a lot of it is information sharing and communication of priorities. I would suggest probably industry probably knows the details better. Than government, because it's their job to maintain the continuity of operations. So it's their business to know when it came from where and how to. repair it in the fastest time possible. And that's a different priority than governments, because government, we want to know, we want to realize, we also want to communicate back what are the, because industry may not realize or understand government priorities. So that's important for us to communicate priorities. Also, governments are more concerned about cause, legal accountability, and I think that's a key part of this, is legal accountability for these breaks and those should be investigated in transparent processes where there's due process. So I think that's where government, what government can do and should do to contribute value to this, because we want these secure environment, trusted environment, but industry has to be unleashed to innovate and make money at the same time. T
Mr. John Wrottesley
Thank you, John. And Sangbu, please.
Mr. Sangbu Kim
So Sandra's and John's points resonate a lot, how we can really collectively do something to enhance and improve the situations. But again, I really agree that this is now implementation mode rather than just planning or just documentation mode. So real action and implementation is a crucial part. From the international development of financing institution perspective like us and World Bank, we are going to invest more and consider more resilient approach for submarine cable. Definitely, we have been investing in this space a lot, even in Africa, especially in West Africa through West African integration program. And then also individually in Togo and by bringing some more, not only just broadband financing support, but also embracing and attracting more private sector participation. That is a very crucial part. But my last point is that some clarification of roles and responsibility among each party is also very important. Government, the DFI like us, and private sectors. From the government perspective, definitely adopting clear national regional strategy and implementation will be really important, which requires geographic diversity consideration and multiple landing points consideration and open access policy. Pro -competition regime with so many policies of power is a crucial part, as you know. From DFI perspective, supporting country diagnosis. their own vulnerability, structural constraints and design the bankable and resilient project from the beginning and considering some regulatory and security practical conditions from the product design is really part. From the private operator perspective, integrating resilience into their commercial model is really important. If they cannot really fully embrace this safe and resilient measures from the beginning in their commercial model, we have to keep pushing back and keep saying to the private sector that it is not the right model. Even it is so bad for their commercial viability. So some kind of consensus and some more discussion along with the private sector also will be the crucial part for the future.
Mr. John Wrottesley
And then to conclude, Minister, please.
H.E. Dr. Bosun Tijani
Thank you so much. I think for me, I'll build on the shared interest in us moving from paper to practice and I'll situate that around what I think government and organizations like ITU should be doing. I think typically the government's role is not to control what businesses does. Ours is to make sure that we put the right enabling environment in place to allow for businesses to operate. And I think rules and policies guide that. It may be as simple as a coordination that exists in Singapore, right, if government is not been proactive with ensuring that that coordination is in place, there's significant implication. I remember the last cable that came to West Africa. The companies were really worried about how long it was going to take for them to land at the cable. Because in Nigeria, they had to go to multiple agencies to get different clearance. But because they came to our ministry first, we got a clearance from the president for everybody to align. And it took them less time than it would have taken in the history of cable landing in the country. And you know how this works. For every day they spend, it's cost. And that's the role of government. There's no world where government will look away from this, whether it's in landing or in repair or in redundancy. In fact, it's going to cost the businesses more if government is totally not in the loop. We know that. And the ships that will need to get on water and the clearance they need to get to be able to do so. whether it's in building shared capacity in terms of talent so I think government needs to take action and what I believe is that even as we move forward every nation should have a clear plan on the role of government, it's not government stepping into the business side of this work but government should be clear on their role and ITU should support government to be able to take the right action because they do need that support to take the right action, to put the right protocols in place and that's the way government will then position their nations for more investment is the way government, just like we do with CNI, we do critical national infrastructure and all the companies are excited about it. When the president in Nigeria declared telecommunications infrastructure I think last year at CNI in less than six months we saw over one billion dollars of investment by the private companies. But now we're talking about even terrestrial infrastructure How do we keep them safe? The companies can't do it on their own They still come to government and say How do you use the security agencies to help us ensure That there's repercussions How do you use laws? When we put all these things in place The companies benefit But the society also benefits And that clarity in the role of government We must ensure it's there We can't be soft about it Because if we're soft about it It's the businesses and society that will suffer Government must come to the table Government must be clear about its role And governments must play their role.
Mr. John Wrottesley
Thank you, so that nicely concludes the remarks from our panelist, so please join me in a round of applause. And I will hand back to Thomas for some closing remarks.
Mr. Tomas Lamanauskas
So thank you very much, John. Indeed, thank you for my show of panelists, which demonstrated Chalmeshik expertise is there and that we kind of know what to do, but now it's about doing it. And again, the reminder, and John gave me this drop, is indeed you think all these submarine cables are something big and all very protective because we're so dependent on that. And then you realize they're pretty thin. They're very long, but they're pretty thin. So it doesn't take much, you would think, to break it. And I think that's why we need to protect them because that's what our economies and societies really depend on. And it's really great to have now to conclude that part of that work where I think Sandra said today, again, I'm sorry for quoting you so much, but you said today, like, as a professor, you can't imagine writing the paper with 10 book authors, no? Well, this paper was written with 42 EAB members together with 175 people in the working groups, and they all had to agree with everything that was in the document. So basically... more than 200 people co -wrote that paper. So it's not something, you know, there's really rich, rich, rich expertise there that now we need to implement. So thank you very much again, everyone. So, but just the last thing what I really had to say is that we started in WSIS Forum two years ago. It was Minister Tijani, Professor Maximiano, John and I on that panel. And it's very apt to close that now with a concrete deliverable and hopefully setting the stage for now really important implementation stage. Thank you very much. Have a great afternoon and see you now on the implementation side.

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