WSIS Forum 2026
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Africa's Digital Roadmap to 2035: Implementing WSIS+20 Outcomes, Advancing Agenda 2063 and Accelerating Inclusive Digital Transformation

10 speakers
Summary

This discussion, held as part of a high-level African session on digital transformation, focused on translating the outcomes of the WSIS+20 review into concrete actions that advance Africa's digital development, aligned with Agenda 2063 and the Global Digital Compact . AU Commissioner Lerato Mataboge framed the conversation by emphasising that Africa is transitioning from vision to action, with digital and emerging technologies serving as central enablers of inclusive growth . She stressed the need for concrete commitments on infrastructure, connectivity, digital skills, AI readiness, and cybersecurity, while also calling for stronger capacity building for African diplomats and technical experts to advocate for African interests in global negotiations .

Country representatives outlined their national approaches and shared priorities. Nigeria highlighted three pillars: large-scale talent development (including training 3 million technical professionals), enabling regulatory frameworks such as a Startup Act, and investment in shared foundational infrastructure including fibre and satellite . Rwanda described how deliberate infrastructure investment - including a national fibre backbone, a 4G network covering 99% of the population, and a 5G launch - had enabled transformative outcomes such as drone-delivered medical supplies cutting maternal deaths from postpartum haemorrhage by 50% . Egypt called for cross-border policy harmonisation on spectrum, data flows, and cybersecurity, and stressed that rural populations and women must not be left behind . Kenya emphasised inclusive connectivity, digital skills, and cybersecurity, and noted it will host the first IGF forum in December 2025 .

Uganda advocated strongly for a Pan-African approach, arguing that collective negotiation on behalf of 1.5 billion Africans would yield far better outcomes from global ICT providers than individual country efforts . The Secretary General of the African Telecommunication Union echoed this, warning against fragmentation among regional organisations and urging Africa to speak with one voice to secure its share of global digital resources . On financing, it was noted that closing Africa's digital technology gap requires over 100 billion USD annually, while AI alone could generate more than 1 trillion USD for the continent by 2030, underscoring the urgency of targeted investment in infrastructure, digital IDs, energy, and capacity building .

The discussion concluded with a broad consensus that Africa's digital roadmap to 2035 must be coordinated, inclusive, and grounded in regional cooperation, with the African Union playing a central leadership role in channelling resources and negotiating on behalf of the continent .

Keypoints
  • Overall Purpose

  • The discussion was convened as a high-level African ministerial and institutional dialogue focused on shaping Africa's digital roadmap towards 2035, translating the outcomes of the WSIS Plus 20 review into concrete, actionable commitments, and advancing the goals of Agenda 2063. Representatives from African nations and regional institutions shared national experiences and proposed collective strategies for inclusive and resilient digital transformation across the continent.
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  • Major Discussion Points

  • Implementing WSIS Plus 20 outcomes and aligning with Agenda 2063: A central theme throughout the session was the urgent need to move from policy commitments to tangible implementation. Speakers emphasised that WSIS remains a visionary and relevant document more than 20 years on, and that Africa must now translate its aspirations into concrete digital and economic outcomes.
  • Digital infrastructure, resilience, and connectivity gaps: Multiple speakers highlighted the critical importance of building secure, resilient, and future-ready digital infrastructure. Rwanda's experience was cited as a model, including its national fibre optic backbone, 4G/5G rollout, drone-based medical delivery, and e-government platform. Speakers also stressed the need to address the 'usage gap,' energy access, and regional redundancy.
  • Inclusive digital transformation - leaving no one behind: Several representatives stressed that digital transformation must prioritise women, youth, rural communities, people with disabilities, and small businesses. Kenya highlighted free Wi-Fi for market women and digital hubs for youth skills training, while Egypt pointed to its Decent Life Initiative, which is converting rural post offices into digital hubs.
  • Pan-African unity, regional cooperation, and collective bargaining power: Uganda and the African Telecommunications Union (ATU) Secretary General both made strong calls for Africa to negotiate and act as a unified bloc rather than fragmented individual states. Uganda argued that speaking for 1.5 billion Africans would give Africa far greater leverage with global tech companies and international financiers.
  • Financing Africa's digital transformation: The session addressed the scale of investment required - estimated at over $100 billion USD annually - to close Africa's digital technology gap. Speakers identified key investment priorities, including digital public infrastructure (digital IDs, fintech), broadband, data centres, energy, capacity building, and startup ecosystems, while calling for blended financing, continental funds, and stronger roles for institutions such as the African Development Bank.
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  • Overall Tone

  • The overall tone of the discussion was constructive, collaborative, and aspirational, with a consistent sense of urgency. Opening remarks from the AU Commissioner and South African representatives were formal and diplomatic, framing the session within established continental and global frameworks.
  • As the dialogue progressed to country representatives, the tone became more practical and solution-oriented, with speakers drawing on concrete national examples to illustrate progress and challenges.
  • Towards the end of the session, particularly in Uganda's and the ATU Secretary General's interventions, the tone shifted to a notably more candid and assertive tone. Uganda's representative issued a direct challenge to the African Union to deliver tangible outcomes for ordinary citizens , while the ATU Secretary General frankly acknowledged fragmentation, credit-seeking, and the risk of external actors pursuing their own interests on the continent. This shift added a note of honest self-reflection and accountability to a largely optimistic and forward-looking conversation.
Speakers Overview
HM
H.E. Ms. Lerato Mataboge
130 wpm · 5 min
MJ
Ms. Jeanette Morwane
71 wpm · 4 min
MC
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
129 wpm · 11 min
RR
Rwanda Representative
151 wpm · 5 min
NR
Nigeria Representative
140 wpm · 3 min
KR
Kenya Representative
153 wpm · 3 min
ER
Egypt Representative
122 wpm · 3 min
UR
Uganda Representative
153 wpm · 6 min
MJ
Mr. John Omo
121 wpm · 8 min
S1
Speaker 1
124 wpm · 5 min

High-Level African Dialogue on Digital Transformation: Shaping Africa's Digital Roadmap to 2035

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Opening and Framing

The session was convened as a high-level African ministerial and institutional dialogue focused on translating the outcomes of the WSIS Plus 20 review into concrete, actionable commitments that advance Africa's digital development in alignment with Agenda 2063 and the Global Digital Compact. The moderator, Ms. Cynthia Lesufi, opened the session by emphasising implementation of WSIS Plus 20 outcomes and referenced Agenda 2063, the African Digital Transformation Strategy, the Global Digital Compact, and the African Digital Compact as relevant frameworks for the discussion . The opening remarks were broadly framed around converting commitments into tangible actions that deliver meaningful social and economic benefits for African citizens, though the moderator noted that the session had only 23 minutes available for the panel dialogue and requested that each speaker limit their intervention to three minutes .

In the absence of the AU Commissioner, Ms. Jeanette Morwane, Deputy Director General from South Africa, delivered welcoming remarks. She underscored the historical significance of the moment, noting that the enduring relevance of WSIS more than twenty years after its adoption was testament to its visionary character . She observed that technological change had accelerated - bringing both opportunities and risks - and that WSIS had recognised the power of ICTs to drive socio-economic development through an inclusive, people-centred, and development-oriented approach . She framed the session as an opportunity for African countries to engage collectively on how to implement WSIS outcomes through collaboration, partnerships, and a shared vision .

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AU Commissioner's Framing Remarks

H.E. Ms. Lerato Mataboge, Commissioner of the African Union Commission, arrived shortly thereafter and offered substantive framing remarks for the discussion. She described the current moment as decisive, stating that the path Africa chooses now will have a lasting impact on its future . She commended South Africa's leadership in chairing the AU Working Group on WSIS and for successfully positioning Africa's priorities during South Africa's G20 Digital Economy Working Group and AI Task Force presidency . She also acknowledged the convergence of multiple global processes - the WSIS Plus 20 review, the Global Digital Compact, and the UN Global Dialogue on AI Governance - as collectively defining Africa's digital future .

At the continental level, the Commissioner noted that Africa was in the second ten-year implementation plan of Agenda 2063, with accelerated implementation as a priority, and that the continent was transitioning from vision to action, with digital and emerging technologies serving as central enablers of inclusive growth and prosperity . She highlighted significant progress in adopting key policies and strategies across strategic areas including digital infrastructure, data governance, artificial intelligence, cybersecurity, digital identity, and child online protection . She also noted that the African Union Commission, in collaboration with the African Telecommunications Union (ATU), had led consultations to develop guidelines supporting Africa's negotiations in the WSIS Plus 20 process, describing this as an important step towards developing a digital and AI foreign policy for Africa that would structure the continent's engagements at the international level .

The Commissioner identified the concrete commitments required for successful implementation: foundational infrastructure - particularly energy and water infrastructure - connectivity, financing, digital skills, AI readiness, cybersecurity, and digital public infrastructure . She made a particularly notable observation regarding capacity building, explicitly stating that while most capacity building efforts are focused on citizens and schools, Africa must also strengthen its technical experts and diplomats with the tools to advocate for African interests in bilateral and multilateral negotiations . She concluded by reiterating the African Union Commission's commitment to support, collaborate, and coordinate all initiatives from member states, regional economic communities, and AU specialised agencies and institutions .

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Nigeria: Skills, Regulation, and Shared Infrastructure

The moderator opened the panel dialogue by posing to Nigeria the question of how digital transformation can create jobs, stimulate innovation, and accelerate sustainable economic growth across the continent . Nigeria's representative identified three foundational pillars. The first was massive skills and talent development: Nigeria is training three million technical talents across twelve thematic areas, including cybersecurity, AI, UI development, and project development, to meet the demands of digital transformation . The second was an enabling regulatory framework. The representative noted that African countries are often caught between two regulatory extremes - the risk-based European approach and the less regulated American model - and argued that Africa must develop its own path . Nigeria's Startup Act was cited as a concrete example, providing startups with preferential access to government contracts and incentives that would otherwise be inaccessible, enabling them to scale - the representative drew a comparison with Estonia's experience of startup incentives . The third pillar was shared foundational infrastructure, with Nigeria investing heavily in fibre networks targeting 90,000 coverage points, alongside towers and satellite connectivity . The representative framed shared infrastructure as a continental imperative, not merely a national one.

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Rwanda: Resilience by Design and the Usage Gap

Rwanda's representative offered what became one of the most compelling contributions of the session, grounding the discussion in concrete, human-centred outcomes. Rwanda's core lesson, the representative argued, was that resilient and future-ready infrastructure is not only about technology but about building trusted, secure, and inclusive digital ecosystems that deliver meaningful services and keep working even when circumstances change . Rwanda made early and deliberate investments in a national fibre optic backbone connecting all districts and border points, engineered with redundant transmission and power systems, and through a public-private partnership with Korea Telecom built a wholesale 4G network covering approximately 99 per cent of its population . A 5G network was subsequently launched on a technology-neutral basis, with the market opened to multiple operators .

The representative illustrated the human impact of these investments through two examples. First, Rwanda became the first country in the world to run a national medical drone delivery network, with drones now delivering approximately 75 per cent of the blood supply used outside the capital city . This has contributed to a 50 per cent reduction in maternal deaths from postpartum haemorrhage - the world's leading cause of maternal death - a result the representative described as "resilience by design," where a supply chain does not fail a mother simply because she is in a rural hospital . Second, Rwanda's e-government platform (referred to as "Urimble" in the transcript, likely a transcription of the Kinyarwanda name Irembo), built on a strong national identity system, digital payments, and data exchange, now offers 250 public services both online and through USSD, with services that previously took days or weeks now completed within 24 hours .

Looking ahead to 2035, Rwanda's representative identified the usage gap - not coverage - as Africa's primary connectivity challenge, noting that most people living under a broadband signal remain offline due to the cost of devices, data, digital skills, and energy access . Three priorities were proposed for the continental roadmap: financing the demand side through blended financing and universal access funds targeting affordable devices, local content, and digital skills, since an unused network is a stranded asset ; building regional redundancy by design through harmonised cross-border fibre corridors, regional data centres, and interconnected Internet exchange points coordinated through the ATU, so that no African country is one cable cut away from isolation ; and co-investing in grid and off-grid power for network sites alongside shared African cloud and AI compute capacity, to ensure that next-generation AI services can run on African infrastructure governed by African frameworks .

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Egypt: Harmonisation, Inclusion, and Data Sovereignty

Egypt's representative responded to the question of how to strengthen regional digital cooperation, policy harmonisation, and digital integration in the context of WSIS Plus 20 . The representative argued that building a truly integrated African digital roadmap to 2035 requires moving beyond fragmented country-by-country strategies and focusing on cross-border harmonisation, working with regional telecommunications organisations such as the ATU and regional economic communities to align national regulations on spectrum management, cross-border data flows, and cybersecurity . Policy harmonisation, the representative argued, could serve as the oxygen that the African Continental Free Trade Area needs to build seamless continental digital markets .

The representative also warned that regional integration would fail if rural populations and women were left behind, noting that connectivity gaps persist and that gender and geography continue to compound digital exclusion across Africa . Egypt's Decent Life megaproject was presented as a replicable blueprint: it has converted over 1,600 rural post offices into multi-channel digital and financial public infrastructure hubs . The representative called for investment in interoperable digital public infrastructure, including cross-border digital identity verification and interoperable payment systems, to enable seamless continental transactions . On artificial intelligence, Egypt argued that Africa must jointly develop responsible and inclusive frameworks that reflect African linguistic capacity, protect data sovereignty, and build regional tech capacities so that African youth can actively contribute to the global digital economy . The representative concluded by affirming Egypt's commitment to working alongside co-organisers to translate the dialogue into an actionable Africa WSIS Plus 20 and digital roadmap to 2035 .

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Kenya: Inclusive Connectivity and the IGF

Kenya's representative addressed the question of how to ensure that digital transformation leaves no one behind, particularly women, youth, rural communities, and small businesses . The representative emphasised that WSIS is not solely about technology but about people - youth, women, people with disabilities, and rural and marginalised communities - and that digital transformation must create opportunity and improve lives, especially for those who are most marginalised . Kenya is expanding its digital superhighway, extending fibre cable across the country to ensure universal access, adding digital hubs to train youth in digital skills and connectivity, and providing free Wi-Fi in open-air marketplaces specifically to enable women traders to access the internet and market their goods .

The representative outlined five priorities for a coordinated regional vision: universal and meaningful connectivity; investment in resilient digital infrastructure as a public good; digital skills and capacity development as a central agenda item; strengthened cybersecurity and digital trust; and Africa's embrace of innovation and emerging technologies such as AI to prevent a new form of digital divide . Kenya also confirmed that it will host the IGF forum in December (14-18) of the current year, described as the first since the IGF was made a permanent forum, and committed to presenting an African position at that forum, ensuring that Africans are part of the emerging intelligence age .

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Uganda: Pan-African Unity and Accountability

Uganda's representative, Dr. Abdusalam Waiswa, delivered one of the most candid and politically charged interventions of the session. He argued that Africa cannot achieve its digital agendas without meaningful integration, noting that despite decades of rhetoric about continental unity, siloed national operations mean that strategies are still implemented for individual populations rather than for the continent as a whole . He argued that if Africa negotiates collectively for 1.5 billion people rather than as individual states of 20 or 40 million, it can secure far better deals from global ICT service providers .

The representative made a particularly striking argument about collective bargaining power vis-à-vis global technology platforms, noting that if an individual African state asks Facebook to remove an application, Facebook will ignore the request because it represents only 20 million people, but if the African Union makes the same request on behalf of 1.5 billion Africans, Facebook will listen - drawing an explicit parallel with the EU's regulatory power . He also stressed the importance of digitising African data as a prerequisite for AI to benefit African farmers and rural populations, warning that without removing foundational barriers such as lack of electricity, discussions about AI would remain a dream for most Africans . He closed with a direct challenge to the African Union, calling on it to lead negotiations for AI scholarships and digital skills funding on behalf of the continent, and asking whether participants could be consistent and meaningful to the common person in Africa .

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African Telecommunication Union: Fragmentation and Collective Voice

Mr. John Omo, Secretary General of the African Telecommunication Union, offered a notably candid and self-critical assessment of regional organisations. He noted that the ATU is a membership organisation and that the relationship between regional bodies and their members is bidirectional - regional organisations serve as building blocks through which African countries negotiate global outcomes as a bloc, as demonstrated during the original WSIS process in Geneva and Tunis . He observed that Africa had largely gone to those negotiations as a bloc with fairly common ideas, and that regional organisations had helped maintain the WSIS architecture against competing pressures .

However, Mr. Omo was frank about the challenges facing regional organisations, noting that projects brought to Africa by external partners are often driven by those partners' interests rather than Africa's, and that African institutions compound the problem through credit-seeking behaviour within their own spheres . He warned against fragmentation among regional organisations and called for a continental framework that channels resources into a common pool to avoid duplication and wastage . Disclosing that he would be leaving his post within two weeks and therefore owed nobody a favour, he urged Africa to work together, speak with one voice, and not allow external actors to define Africa's needs on its behalf - using the vivid metaphor of a mushroom farmer who keeps mushrooms in the dark and feeds them manure . He illustrated the power of collective advocacy with a concrete historical example: at the 2019 World Radiocommunication Conference, 31 African member states had lost satellite broadcasting resources to Europe because Africa lacked the capacity to file claims on time, but through collective action with Gulf states, Africa successfully forced the international community to restore those resources . He noted that Africa now holds the largest amount of spectrum worldwide for 4G and 5G broadband connectivity - a resource that must be put to use .

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Financing Africa's Digital Transformation

The final substantive contribution came from a representative of a multilateral institution (referred to as Yoneka/Speaker 1), who addressed the question of how Africa can mobilise the scale of investment required to finance resilient digital infrastructure and digital transformation . The representative provided a striking quantitative framing: closing Africa's digital technology gap requires over 100 billion USD annually, yet AI alone is estimated to generate more than one trillion USD for the continent by 2030, making the investment case compelling . The key question, however, was not whether to invest but who would bring the money and for what purpose .

The representative decomposed the investment challenge into several components: digital public infrastructure including fintech and financial applications, where many Africans still do not use digital payment mechanisms ; digital identity systems, with more than 50 per cent of African countries still lacking digital IDs ; supporting infrastructure including energy and data centres - noting that data centres are included in PIDA (Programme for Infrastructure Development in Africa) projects, with preparation support available through the PIDA project preparatory facility housed at the African Development Bank - where private sector investment is growing but requires co-investment in energy generation ; and broadband, with more than 50 per cent of Africans still lacking internet access . The representative also highlighted the importance of capacity building at all levels - government officials, universities, and secondary and tertiary education - with scope for inter-African exchange programmes, citing Egypt's offer of capacity building to other African countries as a positive example . Finally, the representative pointed to innovation funds such as those established in Algeria as mechanisms that have already demonstrated their ability to generate serious growth in startup ecosystems and should be replicated across the continent .

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Conclusions

The session concluded with Ms. Lesufi thanking all speakers and acknowledging that the next session was about to begin, leaving no time for questions . Across the discussion, a remarkably high level of consensus emerged on the fundamental priorities for Africa's digital transformation: collective Pan-African action over fragmented national approaches; foundational infrastructure investment encompassing connectivity, energy, and data centres; inclusive digital transformation reaching women, youth, and rural communities; massive capacity building at all levels; regional policy harmonisation and coordination; and substantial financing mobilisation.

Notably, the discussion evolved from high-level diplomatic framing towards increasingly candid and analytically rich contributions. Uganda's representative and the ATU Secretary General both introduced a note of honest self-reflection and accountability that distinguished the session from purely aspirational multilateral dialogue. Uganda's closing appeal - asking whether participants could be consistent and meaningful to the common person in Africa - and Mr. Omo's warning about institutional fragmentation and partner-driven agendas served as important counterweights to the session's otherwise optimistic tone. The broad consensus on vision and priorities was thus tempered by a shared acknowledgement that translating rhetorical commitments into coordinated, impactful action for ordinary African citizens remains the continent's primary implementation challenge.

Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
For us, it's not only marking the beginning of the new chapter. We are now focusing on the implementation, translating the commitments contained in the Waste Plus 20 review outcomes into a tangible action that deliver meaningful social and economic benefits for our citizens in the continent. For Africa, this is also providing us with an opportunity to build on momentum created by Agenda 2063, but also by the African Digital Transformation Strategy, the Global Digital Compact, but most importantly, the African Digital Compact. This is a project that is being carried out by the African Digital Transformation Strategy, and we are working on the implementation of the Waste Plus 20 review outcomes. The Waste Plus 20 review outcomes are being implemented in the African Digital Transformation Strategy, and we are working on the implementation of the Waste Plus 20 review outcomes. This is a project that is being carried out by the African Digital Transformation Strategy, and we are working on the implementation of the Waste Plus 20 review outcomes. The Waste Plus 20 review outcomes are being carried out by the African Digital Transformation Strategy, The Waste Plus 20 review outcomes are being carried out by the African Digital Transformation Strategy, the ministers representing member states, continental institutions, regional organizations, to identify practical priorities for implementation and reaffirm Africa's collective leadership in global agenda. It is now my honor to then introduce the Deputy Director General from South Africa, in the absence of the Commissioner, because she was supposed to provide context, but then I will ask the Deputy Director General from South Africa, Ms. Jeanette Moirani, to give us a welcoming remarks while we are waiting. Thank you very much.
Ms. Jeanette Morwane
Thank you very much, and welcome everyone. I would firstly like to thank the Deputy Director General from South Africa, and I would like to recognize our honorable... ministers and leaders of government, the commissioner of the AU in absentia, our secretary general of the African Telecommunications Union, and representatives of international organizations and distinguished panelists. In South Africa, for us, this is quite a momentous occasion, considering the world is in a different environment. I hope they'll give us credit for the lost time technology is our partner but it's always the supporter so please be patient with us thank you Thank you and apologies for that I think South Africa we just wanted to emphasize that we are developing countries united in one continent with so many challenges and aspirations in order to achieve the Africa we want and to deliver the agenda of 2063 The fact that WSIS remains so relevant today, more than 20 years after we agreed to this historic document it is testament that it's a visionary document and in that time technological change is increasing both good and bad so WSIS recognized the power of ICTs to drive socio -economic development and the importance of adopting inclusive people -centered and development -oriented approach. So we felt important that we have this session to engage as countries from the continent to look at how we can continuously implement the outcomes of OASIS through collaborations, through partnerships, and continuously making sure that we have a shared vision. So I would like to welcome everyone to this session, and we look forward to insightful and empowering engagements.
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
Thank you. Thank you, Gillette. Thank you for those welcoming remarks on behalf of, or in the absence of, the Commissioner Lerato Matabuhe from the African Union. Thank you very much. Thank you. And perhaps I'm going to give her one minute so that she can then come through so that we can then continue with our program, Commissioner. Unfortunately, we have a program with mics. So if you don't mind, I'm going to give you this mic and you will stand there so that you can then give us the overview and we can then proceed with our program. Thank you very much. Commissioner, you're welcome.
H.E. Ms. Lerato Mataboge
Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you very much. Thank you for your patience. I've just had to deliver remarks on behalf of our chairperson virtually, hence the delay. But quite pleased to join you and to offer framing remarks for this conversation. So certainly it is a pleasure for me to join you for this session. And really for the discussion. That's looking at how do we shape. Africa's digital roadmap at this very decisive moment. The path that we will choose right now will have a lasting impact on our future. I wish to start by commending the Minister and the Deputy Minister of the Republic of South Africa for the Minister and Deputy Minister of Digital Communications and Technologies of South Africa for their leadership in chairing the AU Working Group on WSIS for the preparations of 2025 and Roli for having successfully positioned Africa's priorities during South Africa's presidency of the G20 Digital Economy Working Group and AI Task Force. And also certainly we recognise many other global processes that are happening now that are defining our digital future with this Plus 20 review of 2025, adoption of our Global Digital Compact and the recent launch of the UN Global Dialogue on AI Governance. At our continental level, we are certainly engaged in our second 10 -year implementation plan of Agenda 2063. where accelerated implementation is a priority. We are transitioning from vision to action where digital and emerging technologies are central enablers to Africa's inclusive growth and prosperity. Thank you very much. In recent years, ladies and gentlemen, we've made significant progress in adopting key policies and strategies for the development of a digital ecosystem that supports our development objectives. We are focused on strategic areas such as digital infrastructure, data governance, artificial intelligence, cyber security, digital ID, and child online protection. And last year, it's worth noting that the African Union Commission in collaboration with African Communications Union, ATU, we led consultations in the development of guidelines that supported Africa's member space negotiations with the African Commission. In the West, it's plus 20%. We build a common understanding between African diplomatic and technical communities, and we consider the outcomes and the guidelines as an important step towards developing a digital and AI foreign policy for Africa that will structure our engagements at the international level. Quite an important deliverable we're looking forward to. As we progress towards implementation of the WSIS Plus 20 recommendations, we must secure concrete commitments and partnerships on delivering foundational infrastructure, particularly energy and water infrastructure, connectivity, financing, digital skills, AI readiness, cybersecurity, and digital public infrastructure. As these areas will determine whether digital transformation contributes meaningfully to our transformation, as a continent. On strengthening the African voice in global digital governance, we need to reinforce coordination, both at technical, policy, and diplomatic levels. We should prioritize capacity building to equip our experts and diplomats with the necessary tools to advocate and to defend African interests as they engage in bilateral and multilateral negotiations, because most of our capacity building is really focused on the citizenry, the schools, et cetera, but we do have to strengthen our technical and diplomats with the tools to speak up for us. This can only be achieved through collaborative leadership and joint efforts. So as I conclude, I'd like to reiterate our commitment as the African Union Commission to support, to collaborate, to coordinate all initiatives emanating from our member states, from our regional economic communities, and from our African Union specialized agencies and institutions collectively for the Africa we build. And certainly I look forward to this afternoon's conversation. Thank you very much.
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
Thank you very much, Commissioner, for highlighting the priorities of the continent, but most importantly for highlighting the collaboration that the continent is forging towards the implementation of the, the most important, the African South Roadmap towards 2035 and supporting the implementation of Agenda 2063, but again focusing on the implementation of WSIS Plus 20 outcomes. Now, ladies and gentlemen, I want us to then move to the dialogue itself. So before I can open the floor for the panelists to then take us through what the agenda is for the 2035, the agenda is for the 2036, the agenda is for the 2037, what they have in relation to why we are here. I just want to highlight the fact that we only have 23 minutes. for our session, right? So now, every intervention, I'm pleading that, can we stick to three minutes in the interest of time so that all of us, because they have an opportunity to say something. And with this, I also want to highlight, Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen, that this discussion today is not simply to reflect on where we have come from, but to identify where Africa should go next and how we can work together to implement versus plus 20 outcomes. I would now kindly invite Nigeria to take the floor, but I would really, really ask Nigeria this important question. Nigeria, how can digital transformation create jobs, stimulate innovation, and accelerate sustainable economic growth across our continent? Nigeria?
Nigeria Representative
Thank you. This is a vital question. towards the digital roadmap 2025. But because of time, I would just try to go straight to the point. Theoretically, the question you've asked, you find the foundation in economics, efficiency, productivity, that's possible. But in a general context, and for purpose of why we're here, for digital transformation to translate into these outcomes, I will just talk about three areas and what we are doing. The first is for us to have the outcome, there must be massive skill development, talent development. You can have digital transformations, but if you don't have needed skills, and that is why what you've seen us in Nigeria, we're training 3 million technical talent. We're taking it beyond and we're taking 12 thematic areas. ranging from cyber security, AI, UI development, project development to make sure we're able to meet this. And if we must achieve the desired outcome, we must massively train in Africa. The second part I will talk of, because of time, is the regulatory framework. What we've done is if we want to do that, to achieve this, we must put proper regulatory support. And this is, in African context, most of them were turned between regulations between two extremes. If I take a case of AI, risk -based Europe, less afraid of America. But in the case of us, if we must take digital transformation, must have that effect, I'll give you one example in Nigeria, what we call a startup act, which enables small startups to scale. Some will call them unfair advantage. Some say, bro, the advantage is... traditionally we are to procure undertake contracts for government. There's a level you need to get to. But with startup heart, it gives you advantage as a startup. And if you want to understand this better, just look at Eastred. A startup incorporated today start getting benefits or incentives from government even when they become billion dollar transactions entity. So for us if we must achieve what we want from digital transformation, there must be this regulatory framework put in place specially to enable startup to scale. And that's what we've done with startup heart and even the upcoming e -governance act in Nigeria. And the last one because of time, I'll quickly talk about opportunity to come and expand it, is the infrastructure. They are foundational and as Africa is good for us, most of them we often see Rwanda, Nigeria, South Africa organizing them, but what's coming as Africa? Shared infrastructure. and that is where you could see we've invested heavily and we're investing heavily in fiber to cover 90 ,000 we know there are challenges to that we're going to towers and we're going also into satellite so I will leave it there just to say three things I've mentioned skills, you must see that regulatory framework and the third one is shared infrastructure, foundational infrastructure thanks.
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
Thank you very much Nigeria for demonstrating how digital technologies are increasingly recognized as drivers of economic transformation thank you very much for outlining what Nigeria is doing to demonstrate this I will then move to Rwanda perhaps before I give the floor to Rwanda I just want to highlight that Africa's digital future depends on infrastructure that is not only connected but also secure and resilient So, Rhonda, I'm going to ask you a question. How do we build resilient and future -ready digital infrastructure that can support Africa's long -term development ambitions? Thank you. Rwanda.
Rwanda Representative
Okay. Can you hear me? Yeah. So thank you, Cynthia, and it's a pleasure to be with you all today. So Rhonda's experience over the past few decades has really offered, I think, one clear lesson, and it's that resilient and future -ready infrastructure is not only about technology. It's about building trusted, secure, and inclusive digital ecosystems that deliver meaningful services that improve people's lives and that keep working even when circumstances change. And so for Rhonda, I think, you know, we made an early, but very deliberate. We rolled out a national fiber optic backbone connecting all districts and border points, engineered with redundant transmission and power systems. And through a public -private partnership with Korea Telecom, we built a wholesale 4G network that covers about 99 % of our population. And so last year, we also launched a 5G network, and we opened the market so multiple operators can deploy advanced networks through a technology -neutral basis. So if you can allow me, I just wanted to illustrate, you know, what's the concrete impact of these investments to the average citizen. And I think first it's in health care. Because we had reliable connectivity and an agile, you know, regulatory posture, Rwanda became the first country in the world to run a national medical drone delivery network. And so today, drones deliver about 75 % of our blood supply used outside of our capital city. And what that has translated into, to particularly for maternal deaths from postpartum hemorrhage, which is the world's leading cause for maternal death, it's been cut by 50%. And so this is what we call, you know, resilience by design, where a supply chain doesn't fail a mother just because she's in a rural hospital. The second example I wanted to offer is on DPI as a development enabler. Through our e -government platform, Urimble, this is, you know, it's built on a strong national ID system that we've invested in for, you know, several years, digital payments, as well as the data exchange. And now we're able to offer 250 public services, both online and through USSD. And so we have now services that, you know, used to take a couple of weeks or a couple of days, now taking about 24 hours, you know, obviously saving a lot of time. You can imagine people who have to walk to a district office to take care of, you know, some minor, you know, administration. It's a very administrative issue, as well as being able to empower a lot of young people through our digital. agent network to have jobs. And this e -government system has really become the foundation for inclusive public services, financial inclusion, and obviously innovation. And so as we look toward 2035, I think we have a unique opportunity to craft a unified and responsive roadmap, building on the lessons learned, as well as taking deliberate steps towards addressing critical gaps. You know, as a continent, we've made commendable progress with broadband now accessible by 90 % of our population, but we know that coverage is not the finish line. I think across Africa, I know as well as in Rwanda, the real deficit that we have is now the usage gap. Most people who live under a broadband signal are still not online. This is due to, you know, the cost of devices, the cost of data, digital skills, as well as energy access. And particularly for landlocked countries like Rwanda, you know, who are dependent on cross -border fiber routes, you know, we know that we... is actually something that's inherently regional. So just quickly, I'd like to offer three priorities for the roadmap to 2035. Finance the demand side, not just the supply. Blended financing and universal access funds should target affordable devices, local content, digital skills, because an unused network is obviously a stranded asset. Second, build regional redundancy by design. Harmonize cross -border fiber corridors, regional data centers, and interconnected Internet exchange points coordinated through the ATU. So no African country is one cable cut away from being in isolation. And lastly, pairing digital with energy and compute. Co -investing for in -grid and off -grid power for network sites, and also in shared African cloud and AI compute capacity, which is really diversifying. This is the next generation of services, including AI and other emerging... technologies that are coming to the fore and making sure that they can run on African infrastructure that are governed by African frameworks. And I think by aligning these investments with all of these different processes, whether it's WSIS, the Agenda 2033, or the Global Digital Compact, or even our national strategies, Africa can really build a digital foundation that is resilient today as well as adaptable for tomorrow. Thank you.
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
Thank you. Thank you very much, Rwanda, for highlighting Rwanda's priorities as far as the issue of the infrastructure that is secure and resilient. What a beautiful story that we are hearing from Rwanda. Africa, indeed, it is really putting effort in ensuring that we have secure and resilient infrastructure. Now, ladies and gentlemen. Your Excellencies, maybe before I move to my... Next intervention, which will be coming from Egypt. I want to welcome Your Excellency from Guinea. Thank you very much for joining us. It's such an honor for you to be with us here. Now, Egypt, the next question is for you. Really, perhaps before you answer this question, I want to highlight the following, that regional cooperation is essential for implementing WSIS plus 20 outcomes, in my view, right? So the question that I want to pose to you is, what practical measures are needed to strengthen regional digital cooperation, policy harmonization, and digital integration of WSIS? Egypt?
Egypt Representative
Thank you, Ms. Cynthia, for this question. So, if you want to build a truly integrated African digital roadmap to 2035, we must move past fragmented country -by -country strategies and focus on cross -border harmonization. So this means that we need to build a truly integrated African digital roadmap to 2035, which is a very important step in the development of the digital economy. with the regional hubs, our regional telecommunication organization, like the African Telecommunication Union and the regional economic communities, to align national relations on spectrum management, for example, and cross -border data flows, cybersecurity, et cetera. So, harmonization is very important, and it can be the oxygen that the African Continental Free Trade Area, we have said that, that needs to build seamless continental digital markets. Secondly, regional integration will fail if we leave our rural population and women behind. Connectivity gaps persist, and gender and geography still compound digital exclusion across Africa. We have a good example of that in Egypt. So, our experience is through our Decent Life megaproject, which we monetize. Now, there are over 1 ,600 rural post offices into multi -channel digital and financial public infrastructure hubs. so these type of blueprints I think the African nations should share if we get free we need to invest in interconnected digital infrastructure digital public infrastructure such as interoperable payment systems and cross border digital identity verification so the American people can transact as seamlessly with a group of customers in Nairobi for example finally we must pull our resources together to solve shared structural constraints no single region can tackle the investment requirements for subsequent terrestrial fiber and green data centers and cyber security defense systems and all these require collaboration specifically regarding the artificial intelligence also our regional consultation have shown that Africa wants a defining seat at the global We must jointly develop responsible, inclusive frameworks that reflect our African linguistic capacity, protect our data sovereignty, and build regional tech capacities so our youth can actively contribute to the global digital economy. In conclusion, strengthening digital cooperation is not about holding more discussions. It's about the tangible partnerships we forge and the interoperable systems we build. Egypt is fully committed to working alongside our co -organizers to translate today's dialogue into an actionable Africa Oasis Plus 20 and digital roadmap to 2035.
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
Thank you so much, Egypt, to inject resource mobilization. collaboration, coordination and harmonization including inclusivity is key in our continent and thank you Egypt for highlighting that quite clearly now I want to move to Kenya Kenya, the question that I will pose to you is how do we ensure that digital transformation leaves no one behind particularly women, youth, rural communities and small businesses and I think my question is informed by some of the interventions that Egypt has set in them answering the question. Thank you very much.
Kenya Representative
Thank you. Thank you, Excellencies. I think it can influence the rest of the panelists and those participating in this forum to actually obviously prioritize the priorities for Africa's digital roadmap to 2035 and also implementing the WSIS plus 20 outcomes and advancing agenda 2063, which in fact speaks to accelerating inclusive and digital transformation. As we conclude the 20th anniversary of WSIS World Summit on Information Society, we're actually reminded that WSIS is actually solely not about technology. It is about people, which indeed Cynthia was talking about. It's about the youth. It's about women. It's about PWDs, the people who are enabling in other ways. It's about rural and marginalized communities. It's about ensuring that digital transformation creates opportunity and advances development and improves lives, especially for those who are marginalized communities. it therefore goes without saying as we now go into the stage of reviewing WISIS plus 20, we also must make sure that in fact in the new chapter that we are actually more inclusive, that we are actually more keen to address the gaps that exist in those populations that are actually not included and across the continent particularly Kenya, we are very busy we are very busy expanding the digital superhighway on the creative economy as many of you will know Kenya is actually focused on a huge component in terms of extending the cable, the digital cable across the country to make sure that every part of the country is got access in that we are also adding digital hubs to train the youth in terms of digital skills and connectivity and also free Wi-Fi for especially women in the marketplaces in the open air places where they never access the internet but now they've got a free Wi-Fi to actually be able to connect and for example go to a Facebook market to market their wares all this intended to make sure that those populations are included so why is Africa really going to have to move beyond a fragmented national approach and in fact ensure that we have a coordinated regional vision First, to ensure that we have universal and meaningful connectivity, which I think remains a key priority for all of us. We must also invest in resilient digital infrastructure, like the cable I'm talking about in Kenya, for public good. Third, digital skills and capacity development must be central to our agenda. Fourth, strengthen our cybersecurity and digital trust, because as you get many users, you can have cyber threats. And then fifth and last, Africa must embrace innovation and emerging technologies, such as AI, to make sure that we actually do not have the digital divide that otherwise exists in the previous context. So just finally, I say that Kenya is obviously going to host the first IGF forum in December, 14 to 18 this year, coming from obviously the IGF now being made a permanent forum. And we're looking forward to presenting to Africa a position in that forum. and ensuring that Africans are actually part and parcel of this new sort of intelligence age going forward. I thank you.
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
Thank you, Kenya. Indeed, inclusive digital transformation remains at the heart of our decision, and you've just demonstrated with your intervention. I will now move to Uganda. Are we still having a Rovi, Mark? Due to shortage of seats here. Y
Uganda Representative
our Excellencies, Delegates, I'm honored to represent the Minnesota -wide city of the Government of Uganda. Thank you. Good evening. I have a question because I know you are. I thought you were giving the floor. Thank you.
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
Okay. Uganda. Uganda. Can you highlight to us how can it be best, how can we best support the implementation of Agenda 2063 while responding to Africa's emerging digital priorities? The floor is yours.
Uganda Representative
Thank you. Thank you very much. I will say that my name is Dr. Abdusalam Waiswa, representing the Minnesota Vice City of Uganda. To answer the question, most of the initiatives have actually been shared by my colleagues, but just to emphasize that for Uganda we believe that we cannot achieve all these agendas and all strategies without working on meaningful integration. For a very long time, Africa, we've been speaking to work together as a continent. but because of the side operations by most of our states, we still have strategies implemented just for our people in our geographical locations, forgetting that if we speak together as Africa, we can achieve more because we'll be negotiating for 1 .5 billion people on the continent, not just speaking for the 20 million, the 40 million people in Uganda or in our respective countries. I believe if we can all embrace that, then we'll come up with meaningful resolutions and get better deals from all these global providers of ICT services and therefore transform our people. So we believe that if we worked on strategies like what Smart Africa is working on, to have bulk purchasing and negotiation of maybe data supply to Africa, we will be able to get better deals that can... allow services, ICT services to be affordable to most of our people. As many of us are aware... most of our people in Africa are not connected. They are not connected not because they don't want, but because of many, many barriers. One of them is the cost of ICT services. So if we can negotiate as a continent, we can get better deals for internet, for connectivity, for all this ICT equipment, which will make it easier for our people across Africa to afford these technologies and therefore become part of the digital revolution. Then also, Mr. Chair, Madam Excellency, and all Excellencies, it is also important for us to think in a Pan -African way. The President of Uganda, His Excellency Eureka Gutamu Seven, is a known preacher of Pan -Africanism. We believe that as Africa, we must approach ICT innovations from a Pan -African angle. such that if we confront any challenge, we approach it from an African angle. At the moment, many of our African people are consuming a lot of ICT services and innovations. We are now talking about AI. We are talking about online child protection. But how are we protecting our African users? Are we capable as individual African states to call Google on table, to call Play Store on the table and say, look, you remove this app because it's not good for our people in Africa, the same way EU is doing on the European continent. We may not be able to do that. And if any of us individual states, we say Facebook, remove this app, because it is affecting our people, Facebook will ignore why you are talking about 20 million people. But if we call Facebook as African Union, in the interest of the 1 .5 billion Africans, Facebook will listen. And I think this is the vice. We all need to put on table and we use that approach in order for us to become meaningful to our people. and then also the issue of investing in digitization. Most of our African countries, we have a lot of data, a lot of information. But without digitization, we cannot benefit from AI. The discussions we are having about AI and all its potential will become a dream for most of our farmers. So what initiatives are we coming up with at our individual state level but also at continental level to ensure that African data is digitized by removing all those hurdles, for example, electricity. If you tell somebody who cannot afford electricity, somebody who cannot afford to charge their phone, and you're telling them about all these digital transformative technologies, they will just look at you as a person dreaming. So Uganda believes that if we are to achieve our agenda 2063, we must work on digitization, by removing all those barriers that are still keeping our people in the informal and paper. operations. Mr. Chairman, I believe that Africa, if we work together as a team, we can negotiate for better investment, for better financing. We've heard stories of how many people are able to fund AI development, but how much of that capital is actually coming to Africa? We're talking about skilling. Is the African Union ready to go and negotiate and say, look, every year we want so much to skill African professionals to learn AI. How many scholarships have been put on the table? Because we cannot rely on Indians, on Chinese, on Europeans to help Africa move from where it is. African Union, we want to see you leading us. Because when you speak as African Union saying we want so much money put in a fund to fund African scholars, to learn AI, to learn how they can digitize and use these initiatives to transform people, then we shall be speaking for our people. Because as it is now, we come to Geneva many kilometers away from our homes, but when you go back home and they ask you, what have you brought for me in Mayuge, in Lagos, in Nairobi, you will most times shake your head without any tangible output. My appeal is, can we be consistent and be meaningful to the common person in Africa? That is Uganda's belief. Thank you very much,
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
Uganda, for clearly articulating Africa's challenges, but most importantly for advocating for Africa -centric solutions and for clearly highlighting the role of the African Union to do what is important for the continent. We really appreciate your intervention. And indeed, Africa's digital roadmap towards 2025 should provide a common strategic direction for our continent. Thank you. Thank you very much. I now want to move to our lovely African Telecommunication Union. As chief of the African Telecommunication Union, the implementation requires strong regional institutions that can coordinate actions across borders. Regional telecommunication organizations have a unique role in turning global commitments. into practical regional programs. Now, the question to you is, how can the African Telecommunication Union strengthen its role in supporting member states to implement the WSIS action lines, the WSIS -plus -20 outcomes through regional coordination, policy harmonization, capacity building, as well as knowledge sharing?
Mr. John Omo
Thank you very much, Cynthia. Thank you very much. Commissioner, thank you very much. Honorable Ministers, Excellencies. perhaps we should flip the question because the ATU is a membership organization I hope you get what I mean so it's both ways whether at the Geneva or Tunis face we saw regional organizations as the building blocks through which regional countries were negotiating or organizations were negotiating for the outcomes and it was a beauty that for example Africa was able to galvanize the support of stakeholders within Africa within the framework of regional organizations and get to Geneva, get to Tunis as a block of course there may have been differences amongst ourselves in terms of but largely we went to Geneva as a bloc with fairly common ideas and what we got is now a global framework that we need to implement. And I'll give you a story, a short story, a practical story with the ATU about this. Nowhere has this been more apparent to me than the WSIS Plan 20. Because we are seeing underneath a tussle, a tussle for control. And again through regional blocs we've been able to keep fairly the WSIS architecture in terms of the way we operate. And so where it was designed originally, which is the existing infrastructure, existing architecture. It may very well be that not everyone is happy about it, but it's served us so well. And I think that is a plus for regional organizations in the tussle, for example, between New York and Geneva, where should the power play be? And we need to see more of complementarity than competition. I'll get back home on this, not just amongst international organizations that are involved in this space, but also back home in Africa. Because what I see is in terms of our partners that are implementing projects in Africa, it is those projects brought to us with the partners. Interests in mind. sometimes I get controversial about this and people don't like me for it but that's ok they are brought to us with a partner's interest in mind we also fall for it as organizations as institutions because of credit taking we want to take credit in our little spheres in terms of I am the one who did this I am the one that did this so I see the challenge that the regional organizations are facing one of fragmentation that we don't seem to galvanize our resources the opportunities that are available to us to put through a continental framework that channels these resources into a common pool so that then we are able to avoid duplication we are able to avoid duplication we are able to avoid wastage we are able to avoid duplication and we are able to put these resources where it must. There's a lot going on in Africa. And I wish there would be a complementary, or rather, a direct impact of the lot that is going on in terms of impact on the ground. I say this because those who know me, I'll be out of a job in two weeks' time. So I owe nobody a favor. But the point is not that. The point is that we need to work together a lot more, especially as regional organizations. Because those who bring projects, WISIS projects, to Africa have their interests in mind. Granted, let's work together to have our interests on the table, working with the membership in terms of regional projects. Because scale is important. We can only get that which we want if there is scale to this. So back to the role of regional organizations in implementing WSIS. Let me just give you a story. 2019 at the World Radio Communications Forum, so 31 of our members have lost their satellite broadcasting resources largely to Europe because we were not able, the radio people will tell you, were not able to do our filings on time because we didn't have the capacity as Africa to do it. So a few Gulf states joined us in this move, and we were able to force the international community, and largely Europe, to say you cannot take these resources on account that Africa was unable to file their claims in good time for last. So it was a lack of capacity. I give this story because we need to translate WSIS aspirations. to connectivity. On account of getting these resources, our members now, for example, Africa has the highest amount of spectrum worldwide for broadband connectivity on 4G and 5G. Africa has the largest amount of broadband resources for broadband for 4G and 5G. Let's make use of it. And that only comes when we galvanize our resources, our voices, and speak as one people. Nobody will give it to you for free. Whether it's the Europeans or the Americans or the fellow Africans. Nobody will give it to you for free. It's competition out there. The more we can speak with one voice as Africa, because our development aspirations are the same. The more we'll be able to force and get to the table where this resources are debated. where these resources are divided and be able to claim our space. I think the challenge that I would throw is that let's work together let's speak with one voice because we may be kept too busy you know like the mushroom farmer keep them in the dark and give them manure let's work for ourselves let not someone else think for us and say that they are doing for us that which they think we need. Thank you very much.
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
Thank you Atul for highlighting the importance of working together. Indeed we need to work together to create impact on all the interventions that we are doing in the continent. Now I want to move to Yoneka So, Yoneka, the question that I'm posing to you is how can Africa mobilize the scale of investment required to finance resilient digital infrastructure, digital public infrastructure, and digital transformation while demonstrating the wider economic and social value of these investments? Yoneka?
Speaker 1
Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much. I think let me start by saying that it is estimated that we need over 100 billion USD every year to close Africa's digital technology gap. We also do know that by 2030, it is estimated that AI alone can generate more than 1 trillion USD for the continent. And so it is clear that it makes sense. To invest in digital technologies. But the question is... who will bring the money and for what. So it's good to unpack the components of digital technology that we want to invest in. It's difficult to say that in three minutes, but I will just try to quickly focus on a few. So we do need investment in infrastructure. We need investment in capacity. We need investment in regulations. We need investments in startups. But if you focus on infrastructure, which I think is critical, there's digital public infrastructure, but there's also supporting infrastructure. For the digital public infrastructure, some of the colleagues have already mentioned it, we do need fintech, financial applications. Many Africans today still don't use it. these digital payment mechanisms. And so what investment do you need here? You do need startups. You do need entrepreneurs who can invest in applications. And so that is one area of investment that is key. We do need digital IDs. I think more than 50 % of African countries still don't have digital IDs. So this is one area where we need to channel investment. Institutions like ECA is also already supporting a lot of African countries like Ethiopia and Nigeria in the area of digital ID. What you need is supportive infrastructure. Here I'm talking about energy. So if we have to have data centers, we need a huge investment in data centers and also in energy. And that's why we are seeing private sector in Africa strive massively to invest in a number of data centers. But jointly. with energy because the data centers would be off -takers of the energy that is generated. With infrastructure, we also do need to talk about broadband because many Africans, more than 50 percent, still don't have access to the Internet. We know that we could work with the private sector, the African Development Bank, especially Africa 50, has supported countries like Guinea in the area of broadband. And we've been talking a lot about the regional dimension of infrastructure. That is critical. It's good to know that data centers are part and parcel of PIDA, and the commissioner is here, and so I'm speaking under her control here. PIDA, there's an opportunity because the projects that, under PIDA, could be prepared through the PIDA project preparatory facility that is housed there. African Development Band. I think Broadbands also are part of the PIDA projects. Now, coming to capacity, I think we need capacity at all levels. Government officials, Google is working with CCA and other organizations to train government officials in the area of AI, but not just government officials. Universities, we need to invest in research and development, secondary and tertiary education. We do need that as well. And there's scope for exchange between African countries. This morning I was talking to the advisor to the Egyptian minister and she was saying that Egypt is offering capacity building to other African countries. So I think this is an area that we could explore. And finally, let me say that some countries like Algeria already have innovation funds. These are funds that can support the startups. I think for the few years that we have innovation funds in Algeria, we are seeing a growth, serious growth in startups in those countries.
Ms. Cynthia Lesufi
Thank you. Thank you very much for those brilliant interventions. Unfortunately, the next session is about to start. Colleagues are waiting outside, and they're even saying, please, please, please, please. But let me thank all the distinguished speakers, and thank you for the fruitful engagement, and I hope we will continue with this engagement as we move forward, and we don't have time for questions, but thank you very much. Thank you.

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